This video portrays Fred Hiatt explaining his clever plan to give law enforcement access to Apple and Google’s encrypted data:
How to resolve this? A police “back door” for all smartphones is undesirable — a back door can and will be exploited by bad guys, too. However, with all their wizardry, perhaps Apple and Google could invent a kind of secure golden key they would retain and use only when a court has approved a search warrant. […]
I believe we’ve been here before. Not gonna happen, but it’s nice to see that the Post’s Editorial Board has broadened their focus from neocon warmongering to ahistorical and technically illiterate commentary on encryption. The conversation leading up to this editorial must have sounded like outtakes from Harry Potter: “Why, we know that a back door could be opened by criminals, but if Albus Dumbledore conjured a secure golden key, then of course no criminal could open that black box! 5 points to Gryffindor!”
(via Kevin Drum)
Baud
And they should make the password for said golden key “password,” so it’s easy for law enforcement to remember.
kdaug
Keep chasing that carrot.
Amir Khalid
I’d join in the pointing and laughing, but I used to write shit like that too, during my own journo days. Still, if all of a sudden Apple did turn around and produce the magic decryption key Hiatt seems to believe they’re really hiding, everyone would point at them: “YOU LIED!!” I doubt they fancy kissing their credibility goodbye.
Baud
@Amir Khalid:
You got better.
MattF
This is in line with the suggestion that there should be a ‘spam’ bit in email IP packets. Would solve a lot of problems, no?
Scott S.
There’s a certain kind of non-technical person who really do believe technology is just another form of magic. How do you make a backdoor that won’t be accessible to criminals? Well, you use Apple’s Golden Key!
Fred Hiatt probably wonders what would happen if he opened up his computer. Would it let all the magical fairy dust fall out? Would it allow Intel the Mystical Gnome to flee? Would vampire bats fly out?
Roger Moore
@MattF:
I believe that you’re thinking of the Evil Bit.
Amir Khalid
@Scott S.:
In other words, Fred Hiatt is one of those people that Clarke’s 3rd Law is about.
Hunter Gathers
Do our elites know anything? I’m going to try to get into Hiatt’s e-mail. I’m fairly certain that the password to every WaPo e-mail is embedded in the HTML code somewhere. Because the WaPo is obviously run by morons.
Howard Beale IV
@MattF: methinks you were thinking about the RFC-codified evil bit. (RFC 3514)
cmorenc
Most journalists, including the editors in charge of most news publications, didn’t get there by way of taking any more math courses in college than the bare minimum required to get their bachelor’s degree in something other than math, science, or engineering. Their understanding is limited to the level of shallow metaphorical analogy, and even more shallow understanding of the flaws and limitations to those metaphors, which are often metaphorically explainable only by addition of further mixed metaphors which add to the confusion.
Scott S.
@Amir Khalid: I am now unable to stop imagining Fred Hiatt trying to figure out how Bill O’Reilly got inside his TV, and why he won’t speak to him when he waves.
The longer I live, the more I suspect that most of our pundits are not only dumber than we thought, but dumber than we thought was possible.
OldDave
I was about to post a link to RFC 3514, but I see I’ve been beaten to the punch, twice. You have to love the April 1st RFC tradition. RFC 1149 is a favorite of mine.
Schlemazel
@Scott S.:
If Haitte opened his head THEN bats would fly out.
What stuns me is that he admits that any backdoor could be broken into then says the solution is to create a backdoor that nobody would be able to break into. D’Oh!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Hunter Gathers: Please do keep us posted.
Ruckus
@Scott S.:
Man speak truth.
geg6
@cmorenc:
Sorry, but that does not explain it. I was a polisci major and took as little math and science as possible and still get my degree. I did the same with my graduate degree. You don’t need to be a physicist, engineer or computer scientist to understand the basics of why Hiatt’s latest idiocy is so idiotic.
Randy P
I think we’re making progress on technical literacy, now that so many people work with computers on a daily basis and realize how dumb they are. I was reading a 1990s-era novel by one of my favorite authors, Donald Westlake, and it featured the “computer programmed to think and talk like a person” that was so popular in fiction, TV and movies of that era. “Oh, it has a personality because I programmed that into it”.
While pulling up all my old annoyances at this meme, I also reflected that I hadn’t seen it in awhile. Even journalists are aware that the 14-year-olds are using computers to post selfies to Facebook, not to take over the world or ask the computer to instantly produce 3-D wireframe models of any city or object in the world “because I programmed it to do that”.
Hiatt is in an older generation, and still believes the 90s memes. Oh and probably also that Scotty could get a 1986-era PC to produce Star Trek technology by typing really fast on it (See Star Trek 4: Save the Whales).
Citizen_X
@Howard Beale IV: Shorter RFC (and Fred Hiatt): All Bad People must wear black hats.
Aimai
@Scott S.: acessible to criminals–hell! Id worry about accessible to governments. But i repeat myself.
Citizen_X
@Randy P: Ah yes, “Transparent aluminum!” That bugged me back when it came out.
eldorado
if only the stupid burned the stupid people
RSR
I think a much bigger tech issue is that USB flash drives have hackable firmware:
Bill Arnold
@Howard Beale IV:
For email, rfc 3514 defines a new MIME type:
drkrick
@Scott S.:
Everybody knows that you’ll lose all the bits if you don’t have an approved bit bucket handy when the back comes off.
I had to pretend to discipline someone after he got a customer to waste about an hour trying to find a bit bucket vendor once upon a time. And we didn’t even work for Fred Hiatt.
Bill E Pilgrim
Matt Taibbi:
2010 online FDL book chat hosted by TBogg.
Joey Maloney
@Scott S.:
C’mon, don’t be ridiculous. Everyone knows that computers (and lots of other electric and electronic devices) run by magic smoke. As evidenced by the fact that if all the magic smoke ever leaks out, the device no longer works.
me
@RSR: I don’t get why this is a surprise to anyone. The PS3 was hacked 4 years ago this way.
Keith P
But a “golden ticket” can be exploited by bad guys, too. What I would suggest is that Apple/Google invent a “magic bean” that would allow law enforcement to access the data with a search warrant.
dmsilev
@Joey Maloney: Nah, that just means you have a computer built with SEDs (Smoke Emitting Diodes).
Villago Delenda Est
Dear Creator of the Universe:
It is clear that it was a mistake for Fred Hiatt to be conceived.
We implore you to correct this mistake by the smiting mechanism of your choice.
Sincerely,
The non-fucktards of Planet Earth.
Villago Delenda Est
@Randy P: Hey, it was Scotty doing it! Now, if it were Geordi LaForge or B’Ellana Torres doing it, it would be kinda out there.
glocksman
Question:
Is Fred Hiatt really that stupid, or does he think that we’re that stupid?
Anoniminous
Fred Hiatt is an American treasure. There is no beginning to his understanding.
Applejinx
Like they don’t already have one. Just ask to use Facebook’s ;P
RepubAnon
Here’s one that even Fred Hiatt might understand: Sometimes, the police need to enter a house when they’re chasing a bad guy. Rather than give them a set of master keys which opened up all doors to everyone’s house, why not have each lock manufacturer create a master key, which they only turn over to the police under a court’s order.
Answer: Because what happens when:
a) The police keep a copy of the master key?
b) The bad guys get a copy of the master key?
c) Somebody buys a few locks and reverse-engineers the master key?
d) A member of ISIS with Ebola gets a copy of the key?
e) Etc., etc., and so forth.
AWJ
“Obviously a back door for all smartphones is bad… but what if it was a magic back door that only the good guys can open?”
Any civilization capable of producing both a writer capable of writing something this stupid and an editor capable of publishing it is doomed. It’s been a fun ride, guys.
Howard Beale IV
Now if we can amend RFC 1149’s transport layer from using a avain transport to an chelonii transport, then we may get somewhere.
Then again, Fred Hiatt still hasn’t been able to successfully resolve his cranial-rectal insertion anyway.
Howard Beale IV
@OldDave: Back in the pre-minicomputer days of CompSci, there was an old saying: “never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of magnetic tape.”
In today’s technology, its now: “Never underestimate the bandwidth of an Antonov An-225/Airbus A380F filled with 128 GB microSD cards.”
MattF
@Howard Beale IV: xkcd/what-if has an article on that:
https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/
Gex
So Fred Hiatt is dumber than a box of rocks and is incompetent to speak on issues of security. I remember a few years back when DVD decryption was a huge issue for the movie industry and they tried to change the key to decrypt DVDs. The problem is that every single legal DVD player needs to have the key to be able to decrypt a DVD, so every single legal device that played DVDs is a source for black hats to get the key. Which they did within a day of the new key going out. After which the Fark/Reddit/Digg/4Chan communities were posting that key EVERYWHERE.
One single key to get at everyone’s data will mean that absolutely no one will have security. I mean, one disgruntled law enforcement officer with a gambling problem and debts is but one of literally millions of scenarios by which this plan would be thwarted.
What an effing idiot.
? Martin
You’ve missed the real lesson:
RSA SecureID was effectively the same security setup as what Apple and Google have – with a private key stored inside the device (it’s actually encoded in the CPU when it’s fabricated), and RSA supposedly had such fantastic security that nobody could retrieve their local copy of the private key, but that’s pretty much just what happened. Because nearly every defense contractor was using SecureID that key became a massive target. Given the efforts that went into hacking celebrity accounts, I don’t think we need to assume that some foreign government would be after that key.
OldDave
@Howard Beale IV: I seem to remember Henry Spencer quoting that one (throughout of a stationwagon / mag tape). The latency was high, but so was the bandwidth. :-)
I’ve been in the business so long I have a 300MB disk pack in my office.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
And which government does Mr Hiatt expect to have access to those golden keys? The PRC? Russian Federation?
Villago Delenda Est
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: The Dark Lord behind the scenes Ministry of Magic, of course.
RSA
Perhaps Apple and Google could invent an app that solves crimes by itself. I think that would be very useful!
M.C. Simon Milligan
Yes, increase them to a length that almost inevitably requires the user to write them down somewhere.
Mnemosyne
@Villago Delenda Est:
I think we were always meant to think that Scotty could fix the Enterprise with a screwdriver and a roll of duct tape if he set his mind to it.
Fort Geek
@OldDave: Would that now be called “FlyFi”?
John Revolta
@Mnemosyne: Make that a “sonic screwdriver” and by God, I’ve SEEN him do it.
Mnemosyne
@John Revolta:
I’m not saying that Scotty definitely is a Time Lord, but it would explain a lot.
tbone
@Baud:
1234 would be my guess.
sm*t cl*de
Hiatt is clearly thinking of unhackable Arisian lens-based technology for identifying law enforcement.
henqiguai
@sm*t cl*de (#53):
Darn, dude! Just got a copy of the series for my Nook, for the long ride on the commuter rail every day. Didn’t think many people were around thinking about ‘doc’ smith’s works.
Central Planning
@OldDave: RFC1149 has been implemented
OldDave
@Amir Khalid: Beauty.
OldDave
@Central Planning: Beauty