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You are here: Home / Civil Rights / Women's Rights / The War On Women / Do You Want to be a Polyester Bride?

Do You Want to be a Polyester Bride?

by @heymistermix.com|  October 5, 20149:18 am| 115 Comments

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Here’s Rick Snyder’s ad appealing to the ever-fickle under-25 bridezilla demographic. Do you think Bob Shrum has switched sides?

(via Dan Savage — click on that link to see a group of links explaining how Republicans are still at war on women. I’m still having trouble with the yuck factor of a 56 year-old man putting out a video where a 21 year-old is picking out the dress to marry him.)

Update: As dmsilev pointed out in the comments, there are a whole series of these ads. You can find them on the College Republican YouTube channel, where a bride is saying “yes” to Bruce Rauner, Tom Corbett, Asa Hutchinson, Bob Beauprez and Rick Scott, in addition to Snyder. It’s hard to decide which is the creepiest, but I’m going to go with Corbett.

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  1. 1.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 5, 2014 at 9:23 am

    So wrong on so many levels.

  2. 2.

    JPL

    October 5, 2014 at 9:25 am

    I don’t get it. Is Snyder paying for the champagne with taxpayer money?

  3. 3.

    debbie

    October 5, 2014 at 9:25 am

    A really bad analogy. The Republicans are a party of selfish child-brides not getting what they want?

  4. 4.

    jl

    October 5, 2014 at 9:34 am

    I thought this was a joke. Needs more Alan Simpson, then it might work.

  5. 5.

    MomSense

    October 5, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Ew.

  6. 6.

    dmsilev

    October 5, 2014 at 9:39 am

    There was a whole series of those ads, identical except for swapping out the names of the candidates. My favorite was the Florida version, where the Perky Bride(tm) said “The Rick Scott is perfect”.

    The phrase ‘Rick Scott is perfect’ only makes sense when followed by ‘ly evil’.

  7. 7.

    Matt

    October 5, 2014 at 9:40 am

    I’m still having trouble with the yuck factor of a 56 year-old man putting out a video where a 21 year-old is picking out the dress to marry him.

    It’s really a stretch for the GOP base – a 21-year-old is practically a spinster. A more accurate ad would have a 15-year-old picking out a wedding dress between classes at middle school. Still marrying a 56-year-old, tho… :(

  8. 8.

    JGabriel

    October 5, 2014 at 9:41 am

    Oh man, great song, I haven’t heard it in so long. Thanks for the reminder – going off to listen to it now.

  9. 9.

    jl

    October 5, 2014 at 9:43 am

    @dmsilev: I was SURE that was a joke.

  10. 10.

    dmsilev

    October 5, 2014 at 9:57 am

    @jl: It was, just not intentionally…

  11. 11.

    gnomedad

    October 5, 2014 at 9:59 am

    I expected to be asked to vote for Ron Popeil. And if you act now …

  12. 12.

    p.a.

    October 5, 2014 at 10:01 am

    Obviously a left wing dirty trick like ‘get a life morans’ was. What I don’t get is how lieberals got Katrina to swerve from the Yucatan to Nawlins. They are very good at making RealMurcans look stoopid.

  13. 13.

    brendancalling

    October 5, 2014 at 10:05 am

    As a PA resident, I heartily agree that the Corbett ad is the worst, especially when you consider the porn scandal.

  14. 14.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 5, 2014 at 10:06 am

    @p.a.:

    like ‘get a life morans’ was.

    Get a brain, morans.

    The spelling would have been great by itself, but it was the brain part that really made it sing.

  15. 15.

    MattF

    October 5, 2014 at 10:08 am

    Ah, sheet. Wimmens is just so complexcated.

  16. 16.

    Vtr

    October 5, 2014 at 10:13 am

    Somebody please make sure Colbert knows about this – wait, did he produce these spots?

  17. 17.

    Amir Khalid

    October 5, 2014 at 10:15 am

    @JGabriel:
    I only wish Liz Phair was as good at singing her songs as she was at writing them.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    October 5, 2014 at 10:18 am

    It’s hard to decide which is the creepiest,

    This might be an appropriate time for an “All of them, Katie.”

  19. 19.

    Princess

    October 5, 2014 at 10:20 am

    It’s “her decision” but someone else is going to pay for it. Sounds like the values of the Republican party to me.

  20. 20.

    max

    October 5, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Do you think Bob Shrum has switched sides?

    Bob Shrum has a side named something other than Bob Shrum?

    max
    [‘Of course, there’s always the possibility he’s a mole.’]

  21. 21.

    Amir Khalid

    October 5, 2014 at 10:24 am

    Okay, whom is this campaign ad supposed to convince? Because I can’t see a woman, whatever her age, accepting the premise that voting a politician into office is like picking a wedding dress.

  22. 22.

    PaulW

    October 5, 2014 at 10:27 am

    Update: As dmsilev pointed out in the comments, there are a whole series of these ads. You can find them on the College Republican YouTube channel, where a bride is saying “yes” to Bruce Rauner, Tom Corbett, Asa Hutchinson, Bob Beauprez and Rick Scott, in addition to Snyder. It’s hard to decide which is the creepiest, but I’m going to go with Corbett.

    I hate to point it out, but… isn’t bigamy/polygamy illegal even for the Republican Party? SHE’S MARRYING SIX GUYS SO FAR…

    O.o

    On a tangent, how CHEAP is the College Republicans for recycling the same goddamn ad over and over?

  23. 23.

    Amir Khalid

    October 5, 2014 at 10:29 am

    @PaulW:

    isn’t bigamy/polygamy illegal even for the Republican Party?

    Ahem. How do conservative Mormons vote, generally speaking?

  24. 24.

    PaulW

    October 5, 2014 at 10:32 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Okay, whom is this campaign ad supposed to convince? Because I can’t see a woman, whatever her age, accepting the premise that voting a politician into office is like picking a wedding dress.

    The premise is wrong on various points:
    1) it assumes that young women are fickle.
    2) it assumes that young women are impressed with pretty pretty things.
    3) it assumes that the Republican Party’s real problem with women voters is “branding” (aka the Scott Brand, the Snyder Brand et al) rather than the fact the GOP’s platform is anti-fair pay, anti-birth control, anti-health care, anti-food for families and kids, basically anti-women.
    4) it assumes that regular voters overall are still worried about “DREADED SOCIALISM” like higher taxes and more government regulation when most voters are worried about paying off their mortgages, getting better pay, and fixing our roads and schools.
    5) it assumes voters can’t get on YouTube and find out that same ad is recycled for six (maybe even more) candidates, meaning it’s a cookie-cutter bland generic ad that’s not really speaking to them or their district.

  25. 25.

    aimai

    October 5, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Also what the girl says is that X is a “trusted name”–i.e. that she is picking based on other people’s opinion of a brand, not because she is making an informed choice. That’s a weird way to attempt to appeal to a theoretical young voter: “choose what everyone else is choosing so long as everyone else is not your mother.” Its an attempt to appeal to young voters as individualists and iconoclasts (anti older generation) but its also an appeal to mindless and uninformed conformity.

  26. 26.

    Roger Moore

    October 5, 2014 at 10:34 am

    @PaulW:

    I hate to point it out, but… isn’t bigamy/polygamy illegal even for the Republican Party? SHE’S MARRYING SIX GUYS SO FAR…

    What’s worse is that it’s one woman talking about marrying 6 different men. Doesn’t that make her a slutty slut slut? Also, BTW, voter fraud. I guess IOKIYAVFAR.

  27. 27.

    PaulW

    October 5, 2014 at 10:34 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Ahem. How do conservative Mormons vote, generally speaking?

    Technically, bigamy’s still illegal in Utah.

    The whole conservative argument against Gay Marriage is that it will be a slippery slope to polygamy and “man and dog” marriages. So there’s the hypocrisy with that ad having that girl marry so many MARRIED GUYS at once.

  28. 28.

    jayboat

    October 5, 2014 at 10:35 am

    Life in the bubble…

  29. 29.

    aimai

    October 5, 2014 at 10:35 am

    @dmsilev: You have to wonder what happens to viewers in those overlapping markets–where people see political ads for races which are not their own. Do some viewers see the same woman dreamily vowing to choose a different politician every hour on the hour?

  30. 30.

    Amir Khalid

    October 5, 2014 at 10:39 am

    @PaulW:
    I’m aware both that polygamy is illegal in Utah, and that a few ultraconservative Mormons there practice it anyway.

  31. 31.

    Suffern ACE

    October 5, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Sigh. She should get a pre-nup, since Rick Snyder seems the type of guy who won’t be returning the dowry.

  32. 32.

    danielx

    October 5, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Totally skeevy……ewwwww.

  33. 33.

    Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

    October 5, 2014 at 10:47 am

    I await the Texas version where the woman says, “I’m going with Wendy Davis, and I’m getting married in pink sneakers!”

  34. 34.

    dmsilev

    October 5, 2014 at 10:49 am

    @aimai: Are they actually running these ads on TV? I thought these were basically just pushed out to YouTube along with a press release rather than being an actual set of ad campaigns with actual money behind them.

  35. 35.

    PaulW

    October 5, 2014 at 10:49 am

    I await the Texas version where the woman says, “I’m going with Wendy Davis, and I’m getting married in pink sneakers!”

    What the hell happened to going barefoot to show off that cute “Austin Rules” ankle tattoo?!

  36. 36.

    Baud

    October 5, 2014 at 10:50 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    My guess is that these ads are directed more at young white women’s middle aged, middle class, suburban, church-going white mothers.

  37. 37.

    dmsilev

    October 5, 2014 at 10:54 am

    @Baud: Except that the middle-aged, middle-class mom is the villain of the piece.

  38. 38.

    Amir Khalid

    October 5, 2014 at 10:57 am

    @Baud:
    But in these ads, the mother of the bride is the one who’s dead set on the “wrong” candidate.

  39. 39.

    Mike in NC

    October 5, 2014 at 10:58 am

    The latest insipid ad by the RNSC running in North Carolina features several women complaining about how Senator Kay Hagan “is a nice person, but she just isn’t getting the job done”. Whatever that means.

    Maybe because she isn’t a man? Yeah, that’s the ticket.

  40. 40.

    Mike in NC

    October 5, 2014 at 11:01 am

    @Amir Khalid: If you want to read up on so-called Mormon Fundamentalsts living in the American southwest, check out a book called “Under the Banner of Heaven”.

  41. 41.

    Iowa Old Lady

    October 5, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Having a stronger stomach than I do, Mr IOL watches the Sunday shows. He just reported that Chuck Todd isn’t up to keeping control of a discussion. Panelists are apparently screaming at one another over how likely we all are to dies of Ebola. Joe Scarborough is stoking fear and distrust of the info the government it providing.

    Lovely.

  42. 42.

    Crusty Dem

    October 5, 2014 at 11:02 am

    Click through to the college republican YouTube channel – they really love the reality show theme – the bachelorette Michigan ad is completely atrocious and offensively stupid..

  43. 43.

    geg6

    October 5, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Corbett is always the creepiest. Except maybe Florida’s Voldemort. But the porn factor with Corbett is just cringe inducing.

    They really know nothing whatsoever about young women. Nothing.

  44. 44.

    Howard Beale IV

    October 5, 2014 at 11:04 am

    OK, reality-check time. Of the married women BJ populace, how many of you (1) still have your wedding dress vs. (2) rented it?

  45. 45.

    Bob Munck

    October 5, 2014 at 11:06 am

    a bride is saying “yes” to Bruce Rauner, Tom Corbett, Asa Hutchinson, Bob Beauprez and Rick Scott, in addition to Snyder

    One has to wonder if they gave any thought to using this ad for any of their female candidates. That would give it a whole new meaning, actually widen the demographic it appeals to.

  46. 46.

    Amir Khalid

    October 5, 2014 at 11:07 am

    @Bob Munck:
    Ooh, you’re a wicked one.

  47. 47.

    Howard Beale IV

    October 5, 2014 at 11:08 am

    @dmsilev: Same ad, but with different endings. Seems like the GOP has some money problems that they can’t target specific ads but have to do cut-n-paste ads.

  48. 48.

    opiejeanne

    October 5, 2014 at 11:10 am

    @Mike in NC: Oh God, that’s a horrifying book.

  49. 49.

    dmbeaster

    October 5, 2014 at 11:11 am

    @Amir Khalid: polygamy itself is not illegal since the extra”wives” are not legally married to the patriarch. Thesr guys usually get in trouble when the sdditional “wives” are, say, 15 years old, or they commit fraud on welfare or other types of benefit programs by claiming marital status for the additional wives.

  50. 50.

    opiejeanne

    October 5, 2014 at 11:12 am

    @Howard Beale IV: I have mine. My mother had it sealed in a box by the dry cleaner. I wonder if it’s still white after 45 years, though.

    It cost $20 because it was last year’s model and a size 3. It had retailed at $200.

  51. 51.

    MattF

    October 5, 2014 at 11:13 am

    @geg6: It’s really damning. The simplest explanation is that there aren’t any young women around to run the ads by– just to check how a typical female might react. The next possibilities are that any woman would would have reacted negatively has already been fired. After that, you get into ‘dishonest or deluded or deranged’.

  52. 52.

    JCT

    October 5, 2014 at 11:14 am

    This is not surprising – according to my college-age son, the “Young Republicans” club at his university is filled with guys who can’t get laid to save their lives, worst than even the engineering frats. If this is how they “reach out” to women it all starts to make sense.

  53. 53.

    Ruckus

    October 5, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Is it amazing(no, that can’t be the proper word, can it?) that they are so wrong on so many issues and willing to say it out loud and proud?

    No. It should be, but no.
    SATMOSQ
    (Simple answer to my own stupid question)

  54. 54.

    Baud

    October 5, 2014 at 11:18 am

    @dmsilev:
    @Amir Khalid:

    Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m not sure that matters. Every “good” church-going mother knows a “bad” mother in the community, who the mother in the ad represents.

  55. 55.

    Ruckus

    October 5, 2014 at 11:20 am

    @JCT:
    They do manage to reproduce at some point, we have young college republicans, I’d bet they didn’t just climb out of the primordial ooze.

  56. 56.

    Howard Beale IV

    October 5, 2014 at 11:27 am

    GOP ads spoofing Say Yes to the Dress criticized as sexist.

  57. 57.

    gelfling545

    October 5, 2014 at 11:28 am

    @jl: @Howard Beale IV: burned it & buried it at a crossroads.

  58. 58.

    The Raven on the Hill

    October 5, 2014 at 11:30 am

    It’s hard for me to believe these weren’t focus-group tested.

    That’s a scary thought.

  59. 59.

    Iowa Old Lady

    October 5, 2014 at 11:33 am

    @Howard Beale IV: I think I still have mine somewhere. I made it.

  60. 60.

    Howard Beale IV

    October 5, 2014 at 11:35 am

    o@The Raven on the Hill: These ads were done by the College Republican National Committee-which kinda tells you all you need to know.

  61. 61.

    adepsis

    October 5, 2014 at 11:35 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim: I’m most definitely not trying to defend “Moran Guy” here, but I remember the original context for the photo. Wing nuts were in one of their typical echo chamber rages about something WV Rep. Jim Moran said (I think it was about Jews being the main influence behind the US drive to attack Iraq in 2003). For a few weeks they were all making the “Morans” pun for anyone that seemed to agree with his position if a tenuous or imagined connection could be made. I’m happy he’s being ridiculed but it was not a spelling error like the infamous “Obama = Muslin” sign*.

    *I personally think he’s more like a nice silk-cotton blend. ;)

  62. 62.

    kideni

    October 5, 2014 at 11:36 am

    It’s one of the most insulting ads I’ve ever seen, and since I have a feeble lady brain that’s swayed by pretty, shiny things, you know it’s bad. They’re prepared a version of this for Wisconsin too, which is interesting given the fact that one of the things the Walkerbots have decided to go after Mary Burke on is that she supposedly plagiarized material in her jobs plan – her jobs plan incorporates policy ideas from other states, and somehow that’s plagiarism, even though every other politician, including Scott Walker, does the same thing (can you say model legislation from ALEC and other right-wing organizations?).

    I was glad to see that a bunch of young women in Florida weren’t convinced by the Rick Scott version.

  63. 63.

    Mnemosyne

    October 5, 2014 at 11:39 am

    @Howard Beale IV:

    I still have mine, but I was too lazy/cheap to have it cleaned (that shit is expensive). Plus, like opiejeanne, I got a really good deal on it — $300 (in 2006) for a silk organza designer dress that someone else had changed her mind about. I even got to wear it twice since we had a small wedding/reception in California and then my parents hosted a second reception in Illinois.

  64. 64.

    MattF

    October 5, 2014 at 11:41 am

    @The Raven on the Hill: Who needs a focus group when you already know the answer? ./sarcasm

  65. 65.

    Iowa Old Lady

    October 5, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Mr IOL’s workplace puts out a swap sheet and some entries make me cringe. “Wedding dress, never worn, size 12” Or even worse, “Prom dress, size 18, never worn.”

    I believe Hemingway is supposed to have written “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.”

  66. 66.

    WaterGirl

    October 5, 2014 at 11:47 am

    @Iowa Old Lady: I really think Joe S. is trying to sabotage the Toddler because Joe S. wants to be the moderator of meet the old white guys.

  67. 67.

    geg6

    October 5, 2014 at 11:47 am

    @Howard Beale IV:

    The hilarious thing is that the average viewer of that show is age 44. Young women don’t watch it. Their mothers do.

  68. 68.

    geg6

    October 5, 2014 at 11:51 am

    OT, but has anyone else been watching “The Chair” on Starz? I’m finding it fascinating. And the way they depict Pittsburgh is simply amazing and spot on.

  69. 69.

    Iowa Old Lady

    October 5, 2014 at 11:51 am

    @WaterGirl: I appalled by the people willing to stoke panic for ratings or political gain. You stir your population to panic, and bad things can happen.

  70. 70.

    g

    October 5, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Christ! I’ve avoided playing this ad for days now, since first seeing it appear online. So I finally played it. How incredibly sexist! The assumption that for young women, governance is nothing more than a style choice. The depiction of the young women as child-like little girls. The depiction of the mother as a shallow dimwit – so hostile and demeaning.

    And hey aren’t older married women supposed to be Republican voters? Way to dis your own demographic, assholes.

  71. 71.

    Citizen_X

    October 5, 2014 at 11:59 am

    @dmsilev:

    My favorite was the Florida version, where the Perky Bride(tm) said “The Rick Scott is perfect”.

    I take it they’re portraying some sort of hellish “wedding” ceremony to hideous Lovecraftian monstrosity Rick Scott, right? (Not saying that Rick Scott is that, but I don’t see much evidence for him being one of our species, y’know?)

    The end involves tentacles, doesn’t it? There’s gotta be tentacles.

  72. 72.

    Aimai

    October 5, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    @opiejeanne: i still have mine. 20 years later. It wont fit either of my daughters so im not sure why im saving it.

  73. 73.

    Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

    October 5, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    OK, reality-check time. Of the married women BJ populace, how many of you (1) still have your wedding dress vs. (2) rented it?

    My wife and I rented tuxedos with skirts. We looked awesome.

  74. 74.

    Howard Beale IV

    October 5, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    @Citizen_X:

    The end involves tentacles, doesn’t it? There’s gotta be tentacles.

    Not even Japanese Tentacle Hentai would stoop to this level.

  75. 75.

    JR in WV

    October 5, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    Mrs J too. She also made the shirt I wore, which has a high collar so I do didn’t have to wear a tie.

    We also have my USN dress blues, that I couldn’t even get one leg into today. Dunno why on that one…

  76. 76.

    Tehanu

    October 5, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:
    My sister-in-law made my dress for me from a Vogue pattern (sweetheart neckline, lace overlay) at a cost of $35 for the material and it was beautiful. I have it in a box wrapped in acid-free paper because I’m a pack rat. Was hoping my daughter-in-law-to-be might want to wear it, but fashions had changed in the intervening 25 years so … maybe my grand-daughter-in-law-to-be, someday …

    As for the ad: eewwwww. Did I actually see that? Need brain bleach.

  77. 77.

    Seanly

    October 5, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    Props for the Liz Phair reference – one of my fav songs of hers.

    That is one of the worst political ads I’ve ever seen. There was a very large creep factor with it to boot.

  78. 78.

    Mnemosyne

    October 5, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    I especially liked that the (self-identified) conservative women in the comments were all like, Uh, guys, that was pretty sexist. It seemed it was only the guys who thought there was no problem with the ad.

  79. 79.

    Jamey

    October 5, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: maybe I listen to too many standup comics like Louis CK, but I was under the impression that there is no such thing as a married woman BJ populace…

  80. 80.

    WereBear

    October 5, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    @opiejeanne: When I popped mine out of the box after fifteen years, it was still lovely: a Jessica McClintock one with lots of polyester lace.

    I put it in a consignment shop last year and it sold to a local school’s drama club. It will be the go-to dress for many plays to come, and I couldn’t be happier.

  81. 81.

    JGabriel

    October 5, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    @Citizen_X:

    … hideous Lovecraftian monstrosity …

    Someone really should snap that up for their User ID.

  82. 82.

    WereBear

    October 5, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    @JGabriel: Unless that’s going to be the R Presidential candidate.

    Just look at it! Our enemies will be so impressed!

  83. 83.

    Mrs. J.R.

    October 5, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    @adepsis:

    Don’t know where the heck Jim Moran is from, but he sure ain’t from WV. We have Rs here, and they’re expanding their reach, but none of them is quite that stupid.

  84. 84.

    Roger Moore

    October 5, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    @Citizen_X:

    The end involves tentacles, doesn’t it? There’s gotta be tentacles.

    I’ve seen enough hentai to know where this is going.

  85. 85.

    Doctor Science

    October 5, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    I was the *fourth* woman to wear my wedding dress.

    It was made by my great-aunt in 1922, for my grandmother (her sister). White silk brocade, tea length, loose flapper style with handkerchief hem.

    It was worn by my grandmother, then worn again in the early 50s by her two daughters, my aunt and my mother. I wore it in the late 80s, with some slight adjustments. I’ve got it saved, in the hopes that my daughters may eventually use it.

    Basically, I grew up knowing what wedding dress I’d wear.

  86. 86.

    JaneE

    October 5, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    Aren’t some of the Republicans up for re-election? Democrats should point out that most women only use a wedding dress once. No matter how many times they marry. I don’t know anyone who has used their wedding dress for a renewal ceremony, but I guess some women could.

  87. 87.

    Ruckus

    October 5, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    @Mrs. J.R.:
    He’s from E. Virginia. Or as everyone else calls it, just plain Virginia. Dem Rep Virginia 8th.

  88. 88.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 5, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    @adepsis: Hmm, that one sounds dubious, at best:

    It was rumored that the message was actually intended to critique Democratic Congressman Jim Moran of Virginia. [but] Other than personal blog posts and comments, there is no solid connection between the sign and the politician.

    In any case I was just saying that it was “get a brain”, not “get a life”.

  89. 89.

    trollhattan

    October 5, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    @opiejeanne:

    Size 3?!? Many women officially now hate you. ;-)

    Your ability to bargain-hunt, however, earns you a reality show of your own.

    My bride made her dress and it’s stored away, somewhere, for our kid’s potential use some day. A true labor of love, that dress.

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    trollhattan

    October 5, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:
    Could have been “Get bwaaaaaains, morans!” That would have totally worked.

  91. 91.

    Tenar Darell

    October 5, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    @Mnemosyne: The series was put out by the College Republicans. Are there women even involved with them anymore? Based on descriptions this million dollar waste of money reeks of not talking (or even listening) to women until after the script was written and the commercial was shot.

  92. 92.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 5, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    @trollhattan: Oh I always thought the zombie thing as a sort of invisible subtext added to the virulence of that one. Right wingers proselytizing for others to become brain-dead seekers of brains like them, in other words.

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    WaterGirl

    October 5, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    You stir your population to panic, and bad things can happen.

    Yep. I believe that’s what we are seeing with all the shootings. It’s open season on black men for a reason, and it’s not a good one. Even the copies overreact to everything because they are in a panic, too.

    I will never ever watch the evening show – maybe 20/20 – the one with promos that say things like “there’s an epidemic – could someone snatch your kids on the way home from school today?”, find out next week!!

    Um, next week might be a little late, you fear mongering bastards!

  94. 94.

    trollhattan

    October 5, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:
    I’ll grant its likelihood. Think I get sidetracked by the mullet every time I see it (“Yoo-hoo, the ’80s called and want their haircut back.”) and now with the Cardinals tee, am wondering whether he’s actually a St Louis County cop?

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    cckids

    October 5, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    @adepsis:

    I’m most definitely not trying to defend “Moran Guy” here, but I remember the original context for the photo

    Well, this is what I found. The guy was a counter/pro-war protester objecting to an anti-Iraq war protest in St. Louis. His sign has spawned a thousand memes.

  96. 96.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 5, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    @trollhattan: Exhibit A.

    Not saying that part was intentional by the sign holder, mind you, but I think it definitely was part of why it caught on so well.

  97. 97.

    trollhattan

    October 5, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:
    Too funny!

  98. 98.

    JoyfulA

    October 5, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: Married twice and never wore a wedding dress. “Weddings” are the world’s worst waste of money. My justice of the peace marriage lasted 37 years; for my second marriage 10 years ago, I went less formal, having learned that in PA a couple can self-officiate a wedding with the right paperwork and two witnesses.

  99. 99.

    Steeplejack

    October 5, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    @Mrs. J.R.:

    Jim Moran is my rep (VA-8), and he’s a Democrat.

    ETA: And I don’t think he ever said what Adepsis says he did. Moran is a pretty vanilla Democrat

  100. 100.

    Diana

    October 5, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    @PaulW: lemme add, it also assumes that what young women think about/want the most is to get married…

  101. 101.

    StringOnAStick

    October 5, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    Wedding dress? Nope. We went to the county court house, filled out the paperwork and then went to have lunch, just the two of us. Nicest wedding I’ve ever been to, and no one had to make a hideous drive or get forced to buy a butt-ugly bridesmaid dress or rent a tux. Simple; easy.

  102. 102.

    Jay C

    October 5, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    @JCT:

    This is not surprising – according to my college-age son, the “Young Republicans” club at his university is filled with guys who can’t get laid to save their lives

    You mean like, also, half the State Legislatures in this country, and probably half the House of Representatives?

  103. 103.

    Adepsis

    October 5, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    @Steeplejack: I had him representing the wrong state but he said it –

    “If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this,” said Moran, whose remarks were first reported by the Reston Connection newspaper. “The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should.”

  104. 104.

    opiejeanne

    October 5, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    @Aimai: The style of mine doesn’t suit either of my girls; it looks positively childish and I looked like a child bride in it. The “Little Girl” look was all the rage at the time. I was all of 19 and looked about 15 anyway, and the dress did not make me look like a mature adult. Well, legally I was an adult. The maturity is something I’m still working on.

    My older daughter had a beautiful gown for her wedding. I

    My younger daughter has been engaged twice but no weddings. It’s fine. We would rather she be sure than go through a divorce. She’s 4’10” so she’s not wearing my gown either. It would look ridiculous on her.

    I’m not sure why I’ve kept it. We have my grandmother’s wedding dress, which was also her graduation dress. She and Grandpa ran off to get married when she was 17, in 1911? It was lovely but wouldn’t fit either of my girls. Grandma was a twig. My girls are twigs but have broader shoulders than Grandma did.
    Here’s a photo:
    https://flic.kr/p/ed99U

  105. 105.

    opiejeanne

    October 5, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    @trollhattan: It was 1969, December, and the dress was made for an 8 foot tall woman. I had to stand on a chair so they could mark the hem, and the dress was still all over the floor. It was marked down 90% because the new styles were about to come out. My mother was annoyed that we were getting married on such short notice (I was a girl in trouble) because she thought she had no time to make a dress for me. She only took me shopping just to see what was out there, and this one dress was lurking in the back. She said she couldn’t have made one for so little, and we both liked it.

    Back then I weighed 98 and was 5’2″; I could no more fit in that dress than fly to the moon by flapping my arms, but I wore a size 12 blouse when I bought standard clothes at that time. I don’t know who wore a size 3 unless it was in an expensive gown.

  106. 106.

    opiejeanne

    October 5, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    @JoyfulA: I agree about the waste of money. Ours was in my church, and the reception was cake and punch in the Fellowship Hall. A friend from college used a pretty lawn and garden at one of the Claremont Colleges for her wedding, made her own dress and wedding cake, the bridesmaids made their dresses, the meal was potluck on picnic benches, and the college choir sang while a couple of the jazz band members provided backup music. It was lovely.

    My kids couldn’t wrap their heads around that idea of cake and punch receptions when their friends were having lavish weddings and sit-down dinners, the cost of which would have made a nice down payment on a house. They are now in their 30s and talk about weddings that are much simpler, maybe on the lawn where we live now, and parties that amount to self-catered barbecues.

  107. 107.

    Bill Murray

    October 5, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    @Tenar Darell: Are there women even involved with them anymore?

    I believe there is one in NC who is trying to keep even conservative groups from registering voters on her campus

    http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5952

  108. 108.

    psychobroad

    October 5, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    @opiejeanne: Very pretty! Hair bow a little distracting in photo, but I’m sure it was the latest fashion at the time. Thanks for sharing!

  109. 109.

    opiejeanne

    October 5, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    @psychobroad: That was her graduation photo. I think she was 15 in it, and it was the hot look of the day.

  110. 110.

    ThresherK

    October 5, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    @PaulW: “Why don’t the three of us get married?”

  111. 111.

    JCT

    October 5, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    @Jay C: Exactly!

  112. 112.

    gelfling545

    October 5, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    @opiejeanne: I went to a wedding last month for which the invitation read in lieu of a gift please bring a dish to share. The food ended up being nothing short of sumptuous and it is one of the most enjoyable weddings I’ve ever attended.

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    The Lodger

    October 6, 2014 at 12:29 am

    @adepsis: Silk-cotton blend? ABOMINATION! ABOMINATION!

  114. 114.

    brantl

    October 6, 2014 at 8:13 am

    Man, do those ads reek of desparation.

  115. 115.

    The Other Bob

    October 6, 2014 at 8:41 am

    Considering anyone with kids, owns a home, has certain pensions and donates to charity is payign higher taxes in Michigan under Snyder, it is stunning they will try to make the case otherwise.

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