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College Football Open thread

by John Cole|  October 18, 20149:42 am| 175 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Sports, Fucked-up-edness

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Just checked FB and my timeline is full of people tailgating at 9 am, and all I can think is “man, I don’t miss that shit at all.” A whole day, just lost. Although considering what Baylor is going to do to WVU, maybe some drinking is in order.

I felt the same way during homecoming last weekend. I never noticed how much time and effort goes into being a drunk until then. You have to make sure you have the booze, you have to deal with hauling around coolers and ice, you have to make sure you have a driver, and then you spend the whole time focusing on activities to get “fucked up,” then people spend the whole time talking about how “fucked up” they are, then you start to have no fun because your whole day was centered around getting “fucked up,” and now you are “fucked up” and having no fun because you’re “fucked up.” So then you go home and eat a bunch of crap and go to bed and pass out, and then wake up feeling like shit because you got so “fucked up” and you commiserate with others about how “fucked up” you all were and take your own personal remedy so you can feel better. And then, once you are feeling somewhat human again, you repeat the whole process to get “fucked up” again.

Something is “fucked up” here, no doubt. I don’t miss drinking or that crap at all. I wish I could go back 25 years and slap the shit out of younger me. I wonder how much money I would have if every dollar I spent on booze I had invested.

In fact, I think I am going to take a nap with the dogs while everyone else is standing outside in the cold and rain, wake up and watch the game while in my bathrobe (heaven is a thick terry cloth bathrobe), and then maybe go see Fury.

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  1. 1.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    October 18, 2014 at 9:49 am

    I, too, look back on the 6 years I spent in college, and wonder what the appeal was of getting fucked up. Today, instead of getting fucked up, we’re going to take the girls to Longwood Gardens and then go have paletas (popsicles) at La Michoacana in Kennett Square.

  2. 2.

    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Congrats on good plans!

    I had a full day planned that did not involve football. But I feel the beginnings of a sore throat, so I wonder if I’ll get to any of it if it keeps raining.

  3. 3.

    PJ

    October 18, 2014 at 9:55 am

    I know you know this, but is possible to drink alcohol without the goal of getting “fucked up”. And it takes no more effort than drinking anything else that comes from a store. Being a drunk takes much more effort – to paraphrase Mickey Rourke doing his best Snagglepuss in Barfly, “people think it’s easy, but it take perseverance.”

  4. 4.

    ruemara

    October 18, 2014 at 9:58 am

    It seems a touch early to think about booze or bbq. Or football.

  5. 5.

    PurpleGirl

    October 18, 2014 at 9:59 am

    JC: Your plans for the day sound good. A nap with the animals is an excellent idea.

    Two weeks ago I slept with a cat in my lap and that was a nice feeling. (I was staying with the head of a cat rescue shelter and there were cats/kittens all around me.)

  6. 6.

    Emma

    October 18, 2014 at 10:01 am

    I’ve noticed the same thing in relatives that seem to think “having fun” means drinking until you become an obnoxious jerk. It killed at least one of them.

  7. 7.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 18, 2014 at 10:02 am

    No zealot like a convert.

  8. 8.

    Raven

    October 18, 2014 at 10:03 am

    In 21 years I’ve missed it once. I was at a conference in Madison and was sitting outside behind the union. There were tables full of people just drinking away and having a great time. I sort of wished I could have joined them.
    Wait till you go to music sober. I’ve seen Santana, the Dead, Petty and a host of others and it’s great straight.

  9. 9.

    R-Jud

    October 18, 2014 at 10:03 am

    It’s cook-ahead Saturday. Tomato sauce is cooling down and will go in the freezer shortly, bread dough is nearly ready for the oven, and next on the list is a lentil curry and black bean chili.

    I’m taking a short break while eating some of the white bean and orzo soup I just made. There will also be salad dressings and (for the Bean herself) some peanut butter and banana cookies. Also planning to hang some pictures and get ready for the half-marathon I’m running tomorrow.

    It’s amazing how much energy one has when one’s thyroid is no longer fucked up.

  10. 10.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    October 18, 2014 at 10:08 am

    While it’s indeed early to think of booze, I’m considering day drinking in despair at the post racial Supreme Court ruling.

  11. 11.

    FourTen

    October 18, 2014 at 10:11 am

    @PJ: #notalldrunks!

    JC: Speaking as a man who never did any of that (what, never? well, hardly ever.) I have to say you are absolutely right, I’ve got almost every penny I’ve earned and I’m gonna retire at 45, friendless and alone.

  12. 12.

    Schlemazel

    October 18, 2014 at 10:12 am

    @R-Jud:
    Would you share the banana-peanut butter recipe? I love that combo & it sounds like something I want to try. Thanks.

    Saw the #1 & 2 womens hockey teams play in Madison last night. One thing I will give ‘Sconie fans is they know how to rock an arena. It was a great game (and it ended the right way!) made better by a building full of folks cheering like crazy. Game 2 is at 3 this afternoon and I am expecting more of the same.

    I come from a long line of alcoholics and I never noticed that it took much effort on their part, it came naturally to them. I am extremely fortunate in that I enjoy a drink now and again but I have never felt the NEED to have one nor any drive to get fucked up since I turned legal age.

  13. 13.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 10:12 am

    I want to see Fury too.

    If you have Netflix, I highly, highly recommend the BBC show “Peaky Blinders,” about a criminal gang in Birmingham (England) in 1919.

    Written by Steven Knight of “Dirty Pretty Things” and “Eastern Promises.” Very good stuff.

  14. 14.

    RepubAnon

    October 18, 2014 at 10:13 am

    As John correctly notes: if your goal for the day is to drink until you’re “fucked up”, you’re already there…

  15. 15.

    p.a.

    October 18, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Tailgating for a 12 or 1 pm game IS lame. Alcoholics feel extra pressure to reach an effective level of “fuckedup-ness” and non-alchies feel left out. Friends who are Patriot season ticket holders note that night game crowds are usually the least noisy. Their theory is that by 8pm the crowd is so drunk they have little energy left. Once the cold weather sets in, I see no point in drinking alcohol, especially cold beer! Alcohol constricts blood vessels; not what you want if you’re trying to stay warm.

  16. 16.

    Botsplainer

    October 18, 2014 at 10:15 am

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Roll with it. Voter registration efforts now have to start with proper voter ID. Make the fuckers eat it, and 20 years from now, announce “We’d treat white conservative Christians the way y’all treated us when we were in the minority, but we happen to be decent people.”

  17. 17.

    aimai

    October 18, 2014 at 10:17 am

    @R-Jud: I was on benadryl a few years ago for some reason, prescription strength. Turns out it acts on me like speed. I did things like cook an eleven course meal, clean the house, and decide while offering my guests their hot appetizers (literally at the same moment) that I should make and bottle hot rosemary/olive oil as gifts for the guests to take home. And I did it.

  18. 18.

    R-Jud

    October 18, 2014 at 10:18 am

    @Schlemazel: Here you go! Two things:

    1) I just use plain old brown sugar, not the spendy “natural” sweetener recommended;

    2) For best results, enlist a five-year-old girl dressed as a “Spider-Man Witch” to help you make the batter.

  19. 19.

    Marcelo

    October 18, 2014 at 10:18 am

    I feel the same way about smoking – how impractical it is. It must cost a FORTUNE, first of all. And every hour or so you have to stop what you’re doing, walk over here and smoke.

    My wife’s family had a ton of smokers (they’re all on vaping now) and we used to try to play long card games and it would go til 3AM because after every round 5 people would go smoke and 5 people would join them and they’d take half an hour to come back. Now that they’ve all let it go for vaping it’s SO much better. Shit gets done.

  20. 20.

    Amir Khalid

    October 18, 2014 at 10:23 am

    This guy thought he was being clever: Russian Tennis Federation president Shamil Tarpischev was fined US$25K for calling Venus and Serena “the Williams brothers” on TV. He says he was just kidding, honest.

  21. 21.

    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 10:23 am

    @Marcelo: There exists a theory of addiction that some people are drawn to it because it so very simplifies their life. There’s really only one thing they need to concentrate on, and they can accomplish their goal several times a day.

  22. 22.

    Tiny Tim

    October 18, 2014 at 10:24 am

    I drink more than is either psychologically or physically healthy, but it’s being a long time since “getting fucked up” was any kind of goal. Drinking is basically boozey dinners and while we all drink, there’s a limit on what is generally socially acceptable behavior and that limits the drinking. One can still drink a lot – and too much – in that context but it’s a different kind of thing.

  23. 23.

    Tokyokie

    October 18, 2014 at 10:28 am

    The town in which I grew up was maybe 20 minutes from a state in which the legal drinking age for beer and wine was 18, so as soon as kids got driver’s licenses, they’d obtain fake IDs so they could spend weekend nights in a border town drinking beer and cheap wine to the point they were throwing up, then try to return home safely. There was no part of that ritual that sounded remotely like fun to me, so I didn’t participate. And once I grew older and figured I could handle my alcohol, I figured it wasn’t a good habit to pick up, so I still don’t really drink. And from what Cole just described, I don’t think I’ve missed a whole lot.

  24. 24.

    gbear

    October 18, 2014 at 10:33 am

    I wish I could go back 25 years and slap the shit out of younger me

    I’m less than a month away from my 30 year sober anniversary and there are a couple dozen other reasons besides drinking that I wish I could go back and slap the shit out of my younger self.

    I’m really glad to hear you’re sticking with this, John. It’s great that you can feel committed to it.

  25. 25.

    jeffreyw

    October 18, 2014 at 10:38 am

    I’m thinking a good old fashioned hamburger noodle bake is just what I need to stay busy for a while. Requires research. And I have this free advice for folks putting their recipes within reach of the Google: Take at least one fucking picture, please. Thank you for your attention.

  26. 26.

    Amir Khalid

    October 18, 2014 at 10:39 am

    @Tokyokie:
    If taking some substance made me throw up, I’d quit taking it. Apparently, that’s not true for everyone. Your story sounds like proof that aversion therapy doesn’t work, at least for the young and stupid.

  27. 27.

    gbear

    October 18, 2014 at 10:41 am

    @PJ: I’m not sure you’re up to speed on the term ‘addiction’.

  28. 28.

    Randy P

    October 18, 2014 at 10:41 am

    Yeah, but isn’t it possible to have fun without getting “fucked up”, even at parties where some people are working on getting drunk? I’ve never been into football, but the outdoor barbecue part of tailgate parties always sounded kind of cool.
    @Tokyokie:

    There was no part of that ritual that sounded remotely like fun to me, so I didn’t participate.

    Drinking age when I was in college in New York State was 18, so drinking was legal and VERY common, and this was always my reaction to stories of drunken escapades. I could understand wanting to go out with buddies to hang out in bars and BS over a pitcher of beer, but I could never understand going out with the express purpose of getting drunk, as if the friendship and conversation were irrelevant. And when someone would tell a story of waking up in a bathtub with vomit on them, not knowing whose bathtub it was or knowing what had happened the previous night, I would be sitting there thinking “and why would anything about that experience make you want to repeat it?”

    I didn’t get drunk when I was out in drinking crowds. Nobody bugged me about it. And I kept my irritations to myself.

  29. 29.

    JR in WV

    October 18, 2014 at 10:41 am

    @Tokyokie:

    When I was a kid in WV the drinking age was 18, and by the time I was 16 I looked 25, so I could get a hot dog and a beer anytime.

    But I always hated puking and being dizzy, and so never tried to get more drunk than a tiny buzz for many years. Now if I’m out I drink a G&T before dinner and some wine with. At home I might refresh the G&T once. Sometimes I have a bourbon and branch water night cap.

    That’s all.

    Now, if WVU was to be leading Baylor big time I might make a small exception, but what are the odds of that? I watched Baylor come back for a win not too long ago, both of those teams looks really strong, quick, well drilled and very talented. Scary, in other words.

    That said, “Let’s GO Mountaneeeeers!”

  30. 30.

    Biscuits

    October 18, 2014 at 10:41 am

    I am currently planning a tailgate party for our firm. They are sponsoring a tent and catering the whole thing, including an open bar (is that considered tailgating?), and they bought everyone’s ticket including guests. Anyhow, it’s on a Saturday. It’s nice that they do this for us but it will blow my whole day…on a weekend. And, I’m really not looking forward to having to be around my drunken superiors. I’d settle for a facial. I’m an ungrateful employee. First world problem. Sigh

  31. 31.

    gogol's wife

    October 18, 2014 at 10:43 am

    @BGinCHI:

    I saw the preview for Fury when I went to see the latest Colin Firth movie (only thing that gets me into a multiplex), and my friend and I were giggling all the way through. It’s lots of ugly CGI landscape and Brad Pitt uttering inane aphorisms with deadly seriousness. I don’t know how anyone could sit through it, even if it weren’t hideously violent.

  32. 32.

    Dolly Llama

    October 18, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Um, is anybody interested in college football?

    Go DAWGS! Neuter the HAWGS!

  33. 33.

    PJ

    October 18, 2014 at 10:48 am

    @gbear: He’s not talking about addiction, he’s talking about tailgating parties.

  34. 34.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 10:50 am

    @gogol’s wife: I’m a sucker for war movies. But yeah, mixed reviews. I almost never get to the movies these days so it was purely aspirational.

    Check out “Peaky Blinders.”

    Also really good is a Yorkshire program (again BBC) called “Happy Valley.”

    It’s about the WV of England with bad behavior. Great acting.

  35. 35.

    Amir Khalid

    October 18, 2014 at 10:51 am

    @gogol’s wife:
    When I went to see The Maze Runner, I saw the trailer for Fury, starring Brad Pitt, back-to-back with one for Unbroken, directed by Angelina Jolie. There’s just no getting away from those two, is there?

  36. 36.

    Jude

    October 18, 2014 at 10:57 am

    @Gin & Tonic: YUUUUUUUUUUUUP

  37. 37.

    aaangus

    October 18, 2014 at 11:00 am

    @gogol’s wife:
    Yup, that was my take as well.
    However, our esteemed host is a tanker so I understand his desire to watch it.

  38. 38.

    chrome agnomen

    October 18, 2014 at 11:02 am

    finding a driver?? we don’t need no stinking driver!!

  39. 39.

    Botsplainer

    October 18, 2014 at 11:05 am

    For some dumbassed masochistic reason, I decided to look at an MRA/MGTOW board.

    Never have seen a more pathetic crowd of losers on the internet, and I used to post on FR, for God’s sake.

    An example:

    mgtowforums.com/forums/threads/my-wife-tried-to-run-me-over-with-the-car-today.21522/

    My wife tried to run me over with the car today…

    We got into a big fight and I threatened to leave her. She responded by trying to run me over. I’m considering going to the cops, but if I do and she gets a felony on her record she could lose her job/license. She’s the breadwinner. I’m working a part-time minimum wage job with no prospects. If everything fell apart it would really mess up my kids lives. They are 10 and 12 and the 12 year old is autistic. So I’m not sure what I should do. I feel I lose either way.

  40. 40.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 18, 2014 at 11:08 am

    Am I a loser for having no idea what those acronyms mean?

  41. 41.

    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 11:08 am

    @BGinCHI: Thanks! Added to my list, and just the kind of thing we like!

    It took five hours for my 2009 PowerBook (for work) to download Yosemite, and only about 45 minutes for my 2013 Mac Air.

    That’s an amazing advancement in a short time.

  42. 42.

    Breth

    October 18, 2014 at 11:09 am

    I’m pissed off today because I saw a movie last night that Tom Cruise was actually good in and didn’t seem like he was just playing himself.

    Edge off Tomorrow is a great sci-fi movie with lots of unexpected humor. Now itching for when Guardians of the Galaxy comes to Amazon.

  43. 43.

    Betty Cracker

    October 18, 2014 at 11:10 am

    @Dolly Llama: Soooooooeeeeee Hawgs!!!

  44. 44.

    Not Adding Much to the Community

    October 18, 2014 at 11:11 am

    Fury is good, but it’s not the feel good movie of the year, if you know what I mean. It’s not an action movie. There is a lot of action, and a lot of guys dying in ugly ways, but that almost takes a back seat to the emotional lives of the men in the tank. “Downbeat” was one descriptor that seemed apt.

  45. 45.

    Betty Cracker

    October 18, 2014 at 11:11 am

    @BGinCHI: “Happy Valley” was awesome. I eagerly await the next season.

  46. 46.

    Schlemazel

    October 18, 2014 at 11:13 am

    @R-Jud: THANKS!

    I never have been interested in any of the ‘natural’ sweeteners so we are good to go there. I am highly suspicious of any flourless baked good unless they are using ground nuts so I guess the peanut will have to do (I like mine with EXTRA gluten, thanks!)

    Maybe my granddaughter but she is more likely to be a fairy ballerina than a spiderman witch.

  47. 47.

    John Cole +0

    October 18, 2014 at 11:14 am

    @Gin & Tonic: I’m really not a zealot. I don’t say a peep to others. In my mind, people don’t change until they decide for themselves.

  48. 48.

    Botsplainer

    October 18, 2014 at 11:14 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Mens Rights Activist/Men Going Their Own Way

    Be thankful you don’t know. It’s a cesspool, and not in a good way.

  49. 49.

    shelley

    October 18, 2014 at 11:16 am

    Found another fun series on Youtube, “The Worst Jobs In History’. The title pretty much explains it all. Each episode is a different time period: Medieval, Tudor/Stuart age, Georgian, etc. (And the host is Baldric from ‘Blackadder!’) It’s funny how many of these jobs involve having to use human urine.

  50. 50.

    John Cole +0

    October 18, 2014 at 11:18 am

    @Breth: I loved that movie.

  51. 51.

    Not Adding Much to the Community

    October 18, 2014 at 11:18 am

    @gogol’s wife: It wasn’t CGI landscape; they filmed it in the English countryside, standing in for the German countryside. Rottentomatoes.com currently tracks it at 80% positive reviews, up from 76% a few days ago. It’s hideously violent, but so is war, and that’s the point. Ultimately, the movie seems to be about the waste and futility of war, full of sound and Fury, but signifying nothing.

    Edited to put this on the last line:
    TLDR: trailers aren’t the movie.

  52. 52.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    October 18, 2014 at 11:18 am

    @Gin & Tonic: Not at all. As a female type person, I’ve learned that they are acronyms for groups of “aggressively misogynistic poorly socialized men who validate one another’s hostility.” The actual names, I’m told, are Mens Rights Activists and Men Going Their Own Way.

    Douchecopters with chips on their shoulders, in other words.

  53. 53.

    aimai

    October 18, 2014 at 11:20 am

    @Botsplainer: I feel sorry for the guy if the story is true. He’s not “a loser” he’s in an abusive and potentially dangerous relationship. However the responses he gets are pretty vile and include this gem:

    Her behavior and motivation:
    Is this fight a one off or is there a regular pattern of fighting? If you look at previous fights, is there a pattern of escalation – first fights were screaming, then the next fights involved throwing things, then the next involved hitting, then the next involved weapons?

    Does she seriously over react? I’m not talking about the usual female over dramatizing like bitching for two days when she finds an empty milk carton in the refrigerator but instead when she finds the carton, she rips the doors off the cabinets. A real mommy dearest type of response.

    You have said she is the breadwinner. I wonder, if she has already considered divorce, surely she knows she is going to be on the hook for alimony. Could this be provocation to drive you out? If you went to the cops about this incident, would it be likely she would claim self defense from abuse? Rather than blind rage from an argument, she might be making a cold calculated move to get you out of her life with no strings attached.

    You need to recognize that she has overstepped a boundary that should *NEVER* be crossed. Yes, sometimes we reach a point that anger has exceeded the ability to express it with words. A vase thrown, a hole kicked in a wall, even a slap are one thing. The intent there is still to just express anger. A *WEAPON* on the other hand (and a car used this way is every bit a weapon as a gun or knife or poison), is a whole new ballgame and is no longer about expressing anger but about expressing her desire that she no longer wants you on this planet.

    So she tried and failed to run you over. But what would your response have been if she shot at you but missed? Stabbed you but didn’t hit an artery? Poisoned you but didn’t use enough? What would you expect her response to be if the sexes were reversed?

    The children should largely be your primary concern here. If she is unstable with you, she’s likely to be unstable with the kids. Again, trying to run over another human being with a car shows some real judgement issues to say the least. Is leaving your wife now more damaging to your kids than living in a strained and tense environment for four or more years? Only you can answer that.

    As Hasmat said, if she is the breadwinner, you are likely to get alimony. The downside here (total conjecture on my part – just throwing this out as a thought to be investigated) is that if the disparity in income is not really that great and she is only doing marginally better and not significantly better than you then alimony for you will likely be less money for the kids.

    On the flip side, if you are operating as a stay at home Dad or are picking up a larger chunk of the child care duties because you are part time, coupled with her behavior and her breadwinner status, you might have a better shot at majority or full custody of the children. Then of course, she should pay everything a man would be expected to pay.

    Basically: everything “we” do if we are men is valorized while if a woman were doing it (padding expenses, taking money, behaving violently) it is all evidence of woman’s basically evil nature.

  54. 54.

    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 11:21 am

    When people first get sober, they all think they’re never going to have any fun again. It doesn’t usually take very long to find out they were hugely mistaken and that life is freer and easier on a physical and logistical level without booze. The head stuff, the emotional stuff that goes with being an addict, is harder.

  55. 55.

    Schlemazel

    October 18, 2014 at 11:21 am

    @shelley:
    Saw that on BBC a couple years back – great look at history & how maybe things could be worse!

    It is worth a watch.

  56. 56.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 11:21 am

    @WereBear: Did that yesterday. Macbook pro about 20 minutes or a bit more. Don’t love the look of the new desktop but not a big deal. I’m sure it does 20 things I don’t even know about….

  57. 57.

    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 11:22 am

    @BGinCHI: That sounds quite promising.

  58. 58.

    shelley

    October 18, 2014 at 11:22 am

    I grew up was maybe 20 minutes from a state in which the legal drinking age for beer and wine was 18

    oof, when I was a teenager , that was the difference between New Jersey and New York. With the inevitable crash-ups of cars coming back from Manhatten late Friday and Saturday nights. Which sounded like so much fun. By the time I turned 18 it was the national legal age (for a while, anyways)

  59. 59.

    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 11:22 am

    @shelley: That is an awesome series, hosted by the actor who plays Baldrick on Blackadder.

    No matter how bad a day at work we’ve had, it was a potent reminder that in the past, it was certainly worse.

  60. 60.

    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 11:23 am

    @BGinCHI: You will love it.

  61. 61.

    BD of MN

    October 18, 2014 at 11:24 am

    He likes the warm feeling but he’s tired of all the dehydration…

    The Hold Steady

  62. 62.

    shelley

    October 18, 2014 at 11:27 am

    Considering the nature of Cole’s post, maybe we shouldn’t be celebrating drinking. But when you first became ‘legal’ did you do anything to mark the occasion? I went into our local package store and bought a six pack of Becks. And was mightily offended when the clerk didn’t card me. But I shouldn’t have worried. We spent summers down at the Jersey Shore, and down there I was carded till I was 28.

  63. 63.

    Not Adding Much to the Community

    October 18, 2014 at 11:29 am

    @shelley: I turned 21 in the middle of the Indian ocean, on board a Navy frigate. There was no party.

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    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 11:29 am

    @Betty Cracker: Seriously, they can’t make that fast enough.

    “Hinterland” is good too, though mostly for being shot in and around Aberystwyth in Wales and with full on Welsh accents. Mrs. BG used to live in Aber and we have been back several times. Such a lovely town.

    Anyone watch “The Bletchley Circle”?

  65. 65.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 11:30 am

    @John Cole +0: Gonna watch via Amazon Prime tonight.

    Cole, give us a report on Fury after you see it.

    Ayer’s other movies have been excellent (esp. “End of Watch”).

  66. 66.

    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 11:31 am

    @BGinCHI: I did. Great concept and started out strong, but then the writers started phoning it in and it lost steam.

    ETA: Wait, I was unaware of the subsequent series. I’m referring to the original miniseries.

  67. 67.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 11:31 am

    @shortstop: Yes. You see that La Colombe is opening a cafe at Clark & Foster??

    Can’t wait…. Also Middle East bakery expanding!

  68. 68.

    Tim c.

    October 18, 2014 at 11:31 am

    If it strikes your fancy, I think a fair number of us would be curious as to what you make of fury having been a tanker yourself.

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    Botsplainer

    October 18, 2014 at 11:32 am

    @aimai:

    Basically: everything “we” do if we are men is valorized while if a woman were doing it (padding expenses, taking money, behaving violently) it is all evidence of woman’s basically evil nature.

    Well…YES! Why do you have a problem with that?

    /MRA whiny ass titty baby mode

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    Mike J

    October 18, 2014 at 11:32 am

    @shelley:

    But when you first became ‘legal’ did you do anything to mark the occasion.

    I think I went to the same bar I had already been going to for five years to see a band, and had the one or two beers that I always had when I saw a band there.

  71. 71.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 11:32 am

    @shortstop: Bummer. Looks too good to be true….

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    dr. luba

    October 18, 2014 at 11:33 am

    @BGinCHI: Watched it when it came out, enjoyed it. British accents and code-breaking, what more can you ask for?

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 11:35 am

    @BGinCHI: I wouldn’t say it’s not worth your time.

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    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 11:40 am

    @BGinCHI: If just five of them are useful I consider it a success.

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    Hillary Rettig

    October 18, 2014 at 11:42 am

    wonderful post, John!

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    gogol's wife

    October 18, 2014 at 11:42 am

    @BGinCHI:

    “Peaky Blinders” sounds great.

  77. 77.

    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 11:42 am

    BG, you might like Island at War, a miniseries about German occupation on a channel island. It’s a bit soapy but interesting in how it depicts islanders’ relationships with their occupiers. Unfortunately, its ending is abrupt and loose-endy enough to cause frustration. Apparently they were planning a second series but it didn’t come off.

    I have Land Girls in my queue but haven’t started it. British domestic life and civilian activities during wartime have always fascinated me. I wish there were more stuff on Bletchley that actually dealt with Bletchley.

  78. 78.

    Tokyokie

    October 18, 2014 at 11:42 am

    @Amir Khalid: I didn’t even get to the aversion stage. I just figured that any social activity that involves vomiting isn’t really fun, no matter how much you try to convince yourself otherwise. So I went to a lot of movies in high school instead.

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    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 11:43 am

    @BGinCHI:
    What sys did you have prior to update? I’ve resisted going to mavrick but yosemete looks like I should catch up with normal. Haven’t seen any reports about absolutely wait till the next release.

  80. 80.

    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 11:44 am

    @BGinCHI: Where? The corner place that used to serve Turkish crepes or something? What went into that sushi bar that used to be a Persian restaurant (before your time)?

    I still do a good portion of my shopping at the Middle East Bakery, even living in Buena Park!

  81. 81.

    gogol's wife

    October 18, 2014 at 11:44 am

    @Not Adding Much to the Community:

    If it wasn’t CGI landscape then it was just bad cinematography. And the dialogue spoken by Brad Pitt was horrific. So that’s not in the movie? It was the equivalent of “In Soviet Russia history writes you” or something like that.

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    gogol's wife

    October 18, 2014 at 11:44 am

    @Not Adding Much to the Community:

    There are tons of great war movies that are not hideously violent.

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    rustypickup

    October 18, 2014 at 11:44 am

    My last drink was at a college football tailgate, I cant even remember if I went to the game. I don’t miss that at all. With a little luck it will be 25 years next month. Don’t worry about 25 years ago, start with today, it’s all you have.

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    RaflW

    October 18, 2014 at 11:45 am

    My partner and I really like going to parties and enjoy socializing with our friends. But at a certain point, we realized that we like going to the beginning of parties and leaving as the drunk-talk starts.

    Its amazing how boring people are when you are sober and they aren’t. These are smart, successful people, and they are not (IMO) alcoholics. They’re fun and interesting thru drink 3-5 (depending on body weight & habits). Then we go home, having had fun, and avoid the mess.

    Works for us.

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    Bobby B.

    October 18, 2014 at 11:46 am

    Tailgating is fun and involves babes with cutoffs and halter-tops, if the beer commercials are true.

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    Howard Beale IV

    October 18, 2014 at 11:46 am

    @PurpleGirl:

    Two weeks ago I slept with a cat in my lap and that was a nice feeling.

    Extra points if they were purring.

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    Mike J

    October 18, 2014 at 11:48 am

    @shortstop:

    British domestic life and civilian activities during wartime have always fascinated me.

    Have you seen Danger UXB? It was made in the 70s? 80s? It’s about a squad that deals with unexploded ordinance in London during WWII. They are billeted in civilian houses so you get a mix of military and civilian stuff. I think they’re all on youtube.

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    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 11:48 am

    @BGinCHI: Anyone watch “The Bletchley Circle”?

    Seen it and loved it!

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 11:49 am

    @Mike J: I have not and that sounds right up my alley. Thanks!

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    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 11:49 am

    @Not Adding Much to the Community:
    Middle of boot camp was 21 for me. People called me gramps. Yeah no celebrating there. But drinking was never a big deal in my house, folks did it but never to excess and as I had my first taste at 3 at a party my folks threw, it really wasn’t that big a deal. I think my Sicilian side of the family had it right, alcohol doesn’t have to be a big deal.

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    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 11:51 am

    @Tim c.:
    Have a good friend who was a tanker and he thought it was very good.

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    khead

    October 18, 2014 at 11:53 am

    @Bobby B.:

    Or car fires. I keep waiting for the Mr. Mayhem DUI commercial….

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    Howard Beale IV

    October 18, 2014 at 11:53 am

    @aimai:

    I was on benadryl a few years ago for some reason, prescription strength. Turns out it acts on me like speed

    Sounds like you’re suffering from its anticholinergic effects instead of its antihistaime effects.

  94. 94.

    PurpleGirl

    October 18, 2014 at 11:55 am

    @Howard Beale IV: Most of cats stayed in Cassie’s bedroom. They didn’t come to see who in the house. Mia — the one who stayed with me — was the one who I thought would stay away. But she sniffed me a few times and then settled into my lap. She purred very low.

  95. 95.

    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 11:56 am

    @shortstop:
    Danger UXB is very good. A little light on the civilian side of things but still a good look at life during war when things can still go very wrong but they aren’t actively shooting at you every second.

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    Scamp Dog

    October 18, 2014 at 11:56 am

    @Botsplainer: ok, under what circumstances would you say “it’s a cesspool, but in a good way”?

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    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 11:58 am

    @shortstop: Saw that Island at War show. Have not tried yet.

    Did you ever try the French show “Spiral”? Give it a chance. Good stuff.

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    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 11:58 am

    @Ruckus: No shit, I went in on my 17th, did 25 months in Korea and VN and got out 2 months before I was 20. Got thrown in jail for underage drinking two weeks after I got out.

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    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 11:59 am

    @Ruckus: I’m not very geeky so not a good source for this question. I have been consistently updating, so I’m not sure what to say.

    Mavericks was a bit buggy at first but now all seems stable.

    Others here will know more.

  100. 100.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    @shortstop: Yeah, the Algerian crepe place is out. ME bakery bought that space and are expanding. Takeaway food and so on, which is going to be terrific.

    Colombe is going to be an amazing addition….

  101. 101.

    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    @Ruckus: I was a beta for Yosemite so I’ve had it for a couple of months. The only thing I don’t like is that it killed iMovie HD.

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    @Ruckus: It sounds great. I’m interested in the military side of things, too. It’s just that having grown up in the US at a time in which civilians could avoid virtually all sacrifice during military engagements (other than losing loved ones who were serving, which I realize isn’t a small thing), I’m interested in the extent to which UK civilians got fully immersed in wartime efforts. People did things and went without here, too, I know–Rosie and rationing and so forth–but not to the incredible degree that Britons did.

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    @BGinCHI: Algerian, right. So where is Colombe going?

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    The Other Chuck

    October 18, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    @Scamp Dog: Digging a latrine comes to mind …

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    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    @gogol’s wife:
    Then they aren’t really war movies. They are drama/action movies set during war time. If you make a movie about war and it isn’t violent, you aren’t doing it right because war is massively violent, deadly and horrible. Any depiction that leaves that out just isn’t a war movie.
    You don’t have to like the violence, I sure don’t, but without it, it just isn’t real.
    Hamburger Hill is a perfect example. I spent some time in a military hospital with a sargent who described this movie to me very accurately 14 yrs before it came out on screen. The reality was far worse than the movie and the movie was pretty damn violent. But he was there and all the movie did was give me a visual of what he had told me. If a war movie doesn’t do that, it ain’t doing it right.

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    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    @shortstop: The old vitamin store.

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    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    @raven:
    Yeah I never had the problem of being able to drink underage, I looked about 14 when I was 20 so I was never able to drink in public till I really was 21.

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    @BGinCHI: Ah! The “Going Out of Business!!!!!!” sale finally ended after a decade or two.

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    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    @BGinCHI: I only just got Yosemite for my Mac — all I can say at this point is that the icons are more colorful.

    But I also got the latest for my iPod touch which is Yosemite compatible, and WOW. Plenty of useful things going on, like when we are typing, it guesses the word you want BUT makes it much easier to ignore or choose. Much better way of auto-completing.

    Very well reviewed online, if that helps. I tend to upgrade within a couple of weeks… long enough for other people to weigh in with sudden awfulness, but I’ve found dragging ones feet tends to pile up the potential complications.

    And it’s free!

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    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    @Ruckus: A film like Bridge on the River Kwai does both, I would say.

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    divF

    October 18, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    @shelley: Turning 21 for me was more about music – up until then, I hadn’t been able to see any bands live because they played in clubs that served alcohol, and you had to be of legal age to get in. So I spent my 21st birthday standing in front of the bandstand watching / listening to Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen. I remember a pticher of beer being involved, but not as much as the music.

  112. 112.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    @WereBear: That feature on the iPhone OS now too. Much better predictive than before but still, I think, woeful. Why can’t it learn words you commonly type?

    No flying cars and now this!

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    Botsplainer

    October 18, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    @shortstop:

    Foyle’s War is my favorite, by far.

    It starts right after Dunkirk. Foyle is a Great War veteran, and is a Superintendent Inspector in a seaside town in the South. German invasion is felt to be imminent,there’s a shitload of spying occurring, German air raids are frequent and the big question on everyone’s mind in nearly every case is “how will this investigation hamper our war effort”.

    There are a lot of grey areas, plenty of “for the good of the realm” decisions swallowed distastefully.

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    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    @shortstop:
    Sounds right up your alley then. I watched it when it came out and watched again a few yrs ago and it held up very well.

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    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    @BGinCHI: For me it wasn’t the flying cars: I wanted a Robot maid!

    True, Roombas are a start, and I have a Litter Robot.

  116. 116.

    MikeJake

    October 18, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    Kegs ‘n’ Eggs bitches, woooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

    I don’t know if I miss those days, so much as I miss my ability to be able to do that.

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    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    @WereBear: I see we have different priorities.

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    scav

    October 18, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    @BGinCHI: Middle East bakery as in Foster & Clark!? on site!? Eta, got it, makes sense, but that storefornt churns. The Alcohol store had links to the last ME restaurant there I think. Eta 2 Whopps, i was thinking about two store down. Corner corner is out.

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    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    @BGinCHI: I don’t commute… any more.

    If I still did, that would change things!

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    The predictive autocorrect is good, but I feel persecuted by the prominence of the ridiculous emoticon menu and the ease with which I keep accidentally hitting it.

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    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    @BGinCHI:
    Yes it does. But a movie about war time won’t need the level of violence that movie about war will need. And I’d say Bridge was one of those. I’d put it in the drama about war category rather than a war picture. Dos Boot is to me one that could go either way. Most of the movie is just a drama about people in a crappy situation during war(Like Bridge). Yet there are several violent war scenes in it that show the awful death and destruction of war.

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    @Botsplainer: That’s in my queue too!

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    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    @shortstop: I picture a focus group of teens and tweens.

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    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    @Ruckus: One thing that really struck me about Das Boot is how they had this really incredible scene that they barely got out of… and I realized they would get to do it again. Tomorrow.

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    JPL

    October 18, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Me too! In the beginning I put on closed captions until I became adjusted to the accents. She is a very talented actress.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    October 18, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    I can’t remember the last time the Gopher football team was favored by double digits. The hockey team, sure, but not the football team.

    Meanwhile, I watched the women’s hockey team play an awesome game last night (the same one Schlemazel was at). I guess they didn’t like some other team taking over the top spot in the polls for the first time in two and a half years.

  127. 127.

    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    @WereBear:
    That’s helpful! I avoided mavricks because of all the bad early reviews. And now I waited long enough that I can miss it altogether.

  128. 128.

    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    @WereBear:
    Yes that is one thing about it that Das Boot really portrayed and that is the boring sameness about ship life, day in and day out, which can be punctuated by sheer terror for a while. And then you get to do it all over. Again and again.

  129. 129.

    pamelabrown53

    October 18, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    @Botsplainer:
    “Foyles War” is the shiznit. I’ve watched the entire series twice. I, too loved the tensions and obstacles between solving a particular crime/murder and “national security”. Stellar series.

  130. 130.

    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    @Ruckus: I was one of those complaining about Mavericks: it really messed up many vital features on their office software. I got to check off the “Genius” box on my review sheet for how I came up with work-arounds and alternate methods of doing things.

    So it wasn’t like there wasn’t an upside… for me :)

  131. 131.

    JPL

    October 18, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    I was just polled by the local nbc station in Atlanta. Jason Carter is running an ad that questions Deal’s personal finances and if people are paying attention, it should help Carter. It amazes me that people vote for crooks but Rick Scott is Governor of FL, so iokiyr.

  132. 132.

    Jewish Steel

    October 18, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    I seem to be impervious to alcohol addiction, but I did spend about 5 years in the 90s being a total rock star. 7 nights a week. It was fun, but I should have stopped after 2 years.

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    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    @WereBear: That’s not Yosemite it’s IOS8.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    October 18, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    There’s no evidence that we’re going to see any punts in the Minnesota/Purdue game.

  135. 135.

    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    @Jewish Steel: Seemed to me that John, in his post above, was referring to the practice of getting as drunk as possible as fast as possible.

    I agree with him. It’s not a good way to do it :)

  136. 136.

    BGinCHI

    October 18, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    @Jewish Steel: No rock stars allowed in Normal.

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    Mnemosyne

    October 18, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    I was going to get all involved in the various conversations, but I have packing to do, so I’m just going to drop this here (stolen, as so many of these great clips are, from Fred Clark at Slacktivist):

    Kennedy Center Honors Tribute to Mel Brooks (2009)

    Of all of the other honorees, I think Bruce Springsteen is the one who most enjoys it, though they do get Robert DeNiro to crack up, too.

  138. 138.

    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    @BGinCHI: That is where I saw Commander Cody!

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    @BGinCHI: I beg to differ. I spent part of my youth there.

    ETA: The “still a child” part, so come to think of it, I was in contact with few rock stars.

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    Amir Khalid

    October 18, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    @WereBear:
    I’ve never been drunk. (No, really.) But it seems to me that when one is drinking, one would want to stay at the intermediate “pleasantly buzzed” stage as long as possible, rather than to rush for the shitfaced and puking alcohol poisoning stage.

  141. 141.

    WereBear

    October 18, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    @Amir Khalid: This agrees with my own philosophy.

    I don’t believe in moderation for everything :) but for recreational substances, it’s an excellent plan.

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    Tommy

    October 18, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    My LSU Tigers play KY today. They have a better record in the SEC then LSU. I fear we might lose. Losing to KY is unheard of. Basketball sure. Not football.

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    shelley

    October 18, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    Movie rather than a series, but my favorite Brit WWII flick is ‘Hope and Glory’

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    Not Adding Much to the Community

    October 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    @gogol’s wife: “it was just bad cinematography.” So award-winning cinematographer Roman Vasyanov is not to your taste. De gustibus, etc.

  145. 145.

    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    @shelley: That’s a great one.

    Thanks to everyone for the excellent viewing suggestions in this thread. Having a bunch of good stuff lined up to watch is like money in the bank or a drawerful of clean underwear.

  146. 146.

    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    Try 84 Charlie MoPic or Go Tell the Spartans. Then there is The 317th Platoon:

    Directed by Pierre Schoendorfer, a Dienbienphu survivor, and photographed by Raoul Coutard, who shot “Breathless” (the real one, Godard’s) and Truffaut’s best films, this is in every way the best, most real and gripping filmed drama of the Indochina wars ever made. It was photographed in glorious black-and-white on location in Cambodia. If you were a combat veteran, line doggie or LRRP in Vietnam this wonderful movie will resonate with you. The little details are there, sounds, faces, jungle rivers, all of it. If you weren’t there and want to know what it was like then you should purchase this film. No other film comes close to the understated realism and gritty reality of Schoendorfer’s masterpiece — and I’ve seen them all. This is a true masterpiece of the war film genre and the best “Vietnam movie” ever made. Trust me.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    October 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    Newcastle United wins! Newcastle United wins!

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    Ruckus

    October 18, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    @shortstop:
    Danger UXB is on Netflix, DVD only.

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    JPL

    October 18, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    The Young Lions was a pretty good war film because it went beyond the blood and horror of war and examined the feeling of the soldiers. It’s an old film but it showed anti-Semitism that existed on both sides of the war.

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    shortstop

    October 18, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    @Ruckus: Thanks!

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): That’s Newcastle United win, Yank.

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    jl

    October 18, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    GO! some college team or otherr! ROOOOLLLLL (color # 1 here) and (color # 2 here)!

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    Jewish Steel

    October 18, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    @BGinCHI: Not since I gave it up!

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    Tripod

    October 18, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    I like Sam Fuller’s war movies. He walked the walk as an infantryman from North Africa to Germany, and instead of a literal depiction with lots of red corn syrup and whiz bang cinematography, he worked to get to the emotional truth of his experiences.

  154. 154.

    EdinNJ

    October 18, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    The only thing worse than a recovering alcoholic is a former smoker when it comes to lecturing others.

    Looking forward to my Scarlet Knights putting a scare into the Buckeyes and possibly shocking the college football world. But probably not.

  155. 155.

    Tripod

    October 18, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    On addiction:

    There are some people who are genetically matched to various intoxicants, but most of us get off on the Pavlovian responses to the beats of the habit. Securing the keg, setting up the table and plastic cup, tapping it…. any idiot can get blotto, the ritual, that’s what it’s all about.

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    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    @EdinNJ: Don’t read his blog if you don’t like it.

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    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    @Tripod: Walter Matthau was a line doggie too.

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    PaulW

    October 18, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    Regarding the South Florida Bulls, they’re a lousy team but they’ve got talent that can get better by next year. Especially the running back, freshman Marlon Mack, is a f-cking beast. If he can get a decent O-line in front of him he’ll be another Emmitt Smith getting 140-yard 3-TD games every week.

  159. 159.

    PaulW

    October 18, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    With the SCOTUS ruling bringing back the poll tax (the costs of a photo ID) to Texas, tell me there’s a fundraising effort to raise money to help poor people pay for the legal photo IDs they’ll need to vote. It’s the only way to get around this BS law to vote in people who will then get rid of that damn law.

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    Mnemosyne

    October 18, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    @Tripod:

    I never had children, but if I had had a son, he would have been named after Samuel Fuller. Because he worked outside of the studio system, he was able to put things into his film that the Breen office never would have allowed.

    He wasn’t allowed to show blood in Fixed Bayonets because of the censorship rules in place, but he was able to show steam rising from the sergeant’s multiple wounds as he lay dying in the snow, which is one of those details you only know if you’ve been there and seen it.

    (Also, people who say there were no movies about the Korean War until M*A*S*H are talking out of their asses, because Fuller made two while the war was going on — Fixed Bayonets and The Steel Helmet.)

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    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    GO DAWGS!!!!

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    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    October 18, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Touchdown Yeldon. ROLL TIDE!

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    J R in WV

    October 18, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    .
    .
    .
    How About Those Mountaineers!!!

    (4) Baylor 21 – WVU 41 FINAL

    WHOOOO….

    Let’s Gooo Mountaineers!!!

  164. 164.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    October 18, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    Yeldon is in Beast Mode today!

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    J R in WV

    October 18, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    WVU wins their biggest game since they scored 70 points in the Orange Bowl against Clemson. They set records every time they got the ball late in that game.

    Now they crush #4, Baylor, 41-27, and it wasn’t that close, really. Wow!

    Got tickets to the Symphony tonight :

    Smetana: Overture to the Bartered Bride
    Byron Adams: Concerto for violoncello
    Julie Albers, cello
    Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6

    Got rave reviews from the Friday night show, will probably be better tonight with yesterday under their belt. And I love all these pieces, hearing them live in the Clay Center tonight will be another peak experience. I was raised on Classical, Big Band and Jazz by my parents, and got into rock on my own when I went to college.

    Going out to dinner too. WVU won, a big Saturday night in West by Gawd Virginia!!!

    My Dad would be so happy, so proud of his Mountaineers! I always tear up thinking about how he loved WVU football. A good thing I’m past being sensitive about showing my emotions.

    I cried like a baby watching the last few minutes of the Fiesta Bowl in 2008 WVU 48 – OK 28, wishing Dad could be watching his team putting in another great win.

  166. 166.

    LookingForACanadian

    October 18, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Love my Gopher football!!

  167. 167.

    Soprano2

    October 18, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    You don’t know how annoying drunk people can be when you’re not drunk until you’re sober dealing with a bunch of drunk people. They’re not nearly as funny or interesting as they think they are.

  168. 168.

    Robert Sneddon

    October 18, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    @Ruckus: My father was in submarines for a time during WWII, Royal Navy not Unterseeboot Kereigsmarine though. He saw Das Boot on the TV once and he said the only thing missing was the smell, a mixture of diesel, battery acid and rubber boots.

    I saw a “making of…” about the original film, the set was just about as claustrophobic as a real WWII sub. There’s one scene tracking a crewmember as he runs virtually the length of the boat with a steadycam operator running backwards in front of him. Very impressive.

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    Charles Pierce

    October 18, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Cole — real happy yez are doing well but I found your lack of faith in the ‘Eers…disturbing. Completely bizarre officiating but a great game.

  170. 170.

    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Just beating the dog shit out of the Hogs who EVERYONE picked. GO DAWGS!!!!

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    SteveGravelle

    October 18, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    @Robert Sneddon: Great film….I seem to recall some of it was actually shot aboard the UBoat in the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago, or was that urban legend?

  172. 172.

    burnspbesq

    October 18, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    @Tokyokie:

    The town in which I grew up was maybe 20 minutes from a state in which the legal drinking age for beer and wine was 18, so as soon as kids got driver’s licenses, they’d obtain fake IDs so they could spend weekend nights in a border town drinking beer and cheap wine to the point they were throwing up, then try to return home safely.

    Sounds a lot like Bergen County, NJ in the early 70s, except we had two “upgrades:” (1) every high school had its “own” bar just over the NY line about which it was fiercely territorial, which could get ugly if you were dating somebody from another school; (2) the road back from our bar (Steak & Brew on Route 59 in Monsey) was a glorified Revolutionary War horse trail, with 200-year-old trees on both sides, making it far too easy for a rookie drunk driver to kill himself and two or three of his besties.

    The crowd i ran with figured out which liquor stores would sell beer to underage kids, and we drank in the parks or in the basements of the kids whose parents didnt care.

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    burnspbesq

    October 18, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Oh, and on topIc, Duke is bowl-eligible for the third year in a row.

  174. 174.

    raven

    October 18, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    38-6 at the half.

  175. 175.

    Geoduck

    October 18, 2014 at 9:34 pm

    I think I’ll give a pass to watching the now-ceremonial trampling of Washington by Oregon.

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