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Monday Evening Open Thread: Thought for the Evening

by Anne Laurie|  October 20, 20147:15 pm| 41 Comments

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@jbarro I think what Americans really want is superficial change.

— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 19, 2014

@dzeaiter @jbarro No I’m serious. Americans are very upset about things in general, but broadly supportive of the status quo in specifics.

— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 19, 2014

And if anyone’s prepared to give us some nice, well-polished superficial…

Apart from profundicity, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    October 20, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    The problem with change is that nothing stays the same.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    October 20, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    I just recently survived a lightning embattled flight back to Houston.
    So, to celebrate, I’m making home made tacos, home made salsa, and plan to watch JJ Watt toss Rapo Ben on his ass about 12 times.

  3. 3.

    Corner Stone

    October 20, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    Also, to add, Padma Lakshmi makes my train run on time.

  4. 4.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 20, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    flight back to Houston

    Now, there’s your problem.

  5. 5.

    Corner Stone

    October 20, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: They wouldn’t take me anywhere else.
    So maybe that’s my problem?

  6. 6.

    Felonius Monk

    October 20, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    “Pardon me, boy, is that the Padma Choo-Choo?”
    “Track 29!”
    “Boy, you can give me a shine.”

  7. 7.

    Corner Stone

    October 20, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    The strange thing was that I had to schedule my flight out so that it originated from Memphis instead of Dallas.
    I was scared to death that if I got on a plane that had once come from Dallas Cole would have me forced quarantined so as to not infect any other commenter here.
    Holy Shit! Is it enough that I typed the word “Dallas” here to get me Cole Approved Quarantined ™ ?

  8. 8.

    FlipYrWhig

    October 20, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    @Corner Stone: Come to think of it, I hear there’s a lot of that E-bulla in Texas these days. You might hafta be, whatchacallit, kwar-um-tied.

  9. 9.

    JPL

    October 20, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    @Corner Stone: It depends. Would you get paid and do you have household projects to keep you occupied?

  10. 10.

    Scamp Dog

    October 20, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    @Felonius Monk: Hmmm. It scans better with the song if you change it to “Padma Lakshmi Choo-Choo.”

    Boy is that an oldie!

  11. 11.

    Mnemosyne

    October 20, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    I wouldn’t say that people are supportive of the status quo, exactly. More like they want the status quo to actually follow through on its promises and act in a fair way towards everyone rather than lopsidedly favoring the 0.01%.

  12. 12.

    different-church-lady

    October 20, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    Americans don’t even want superficial change. What they want is to whine and bitch and moan.

  13. 13.

    JPL

    October 20, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    @Mnemosyne: The sad thing is that why they vote Republican. Romney said that he’d hope to have unemployment at 6 percent after four years but Obama is viewed as a job killer.

  14. 14.

    Felonius Monk

    October 20, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    @Scamp Dog: Thanks. So noted. I’m in the middle of one of those fall colds, so my bubble-head isn’t working at 100%.

  15. 15.

    Mandalay

    October 20, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Gough Whitlam, who was prime minister of Australia while Tricky Dicky was running the show here, has just died.

    He was in office for less than three years (72-75), but what he achieved in that time seems absolutely mind boggling…

    In no particular order..
    – Established Medibank/Medicare
    – Ended the death penalty for federal crimes
    – Invested in social housing, sewage systems, public transport
    – Increased school funding
    – Abolished Uni fees
    – Returned land to the Gurindji people.
    – Granted independence to PNG
    – Established diplomatic relations with China
    – Increased foreign aid.
    – Pulled the last of the troops out of Vietnam
    – Introduced multiculturalism as an official policy and put the last nails in the coffin of the White Australia policy.
    – Advocated against apartheid and atmospheric nuclear testing
    – Introduced no-fault divorce laws, the family court and the single mother’s benefit
    – passed the trade practices act
    – Stopped the QLD libs from drilling for oil in the barrier reef
    – Established the Australian Heritage Commission, the Australian Council for the Arts, the National Gallery of Australia.
    – Kick started the Australian film and television industry (and started triple J)
    – Passed the racial discrimination act.
    – Lowered the voting age to 18
    – Ended Gerrymandering
    – Established the Law Reform Commission and the Legal Aid Office
    – Allowed people from the ACT and NT to vote for the senate for the first time.
    – Ended conscription and freed draft dodgers.
    – And gave us our current national anthem.

  16. 16.

    Davis X. Machina

    October 20, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    @different-church-lady:
    Philosophically conservative, operationally liberal.
    Rhetorically small-r republican, dispositionally monarchist.

    Self-government is, like, work.
    We’ll elect a monarch, if you let us get back to our diversions.

    A revolution? That’s waaaaay too much work.
    We don’t get that impassioned about anything — except the right to own colored people.

  17. 17.

    JPL

    October 20, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    They’re running on fear. If I were the President, I’d stop issuing visas to West African citizens, simply because it’s smart politics. It might not help because what about the rest of the continent.
    After all they live in the same continent. Nothing makes sense anymore and as Elizabelle downstairs said, we don’t teach Geography anymore.

  18. 18.

    Davis X. Machina

    October 20, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    @JPL:

    Romney said that he’d hope to have unemployment at 6 percent after four years but Obama is viewed as a job killer.

    You can’t refute a theology. Blessed be the Market, the Righteous Judge…

  19. 19.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    October 20, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    I dodged a trip to Aguascalientes Mexico today by a coin flip, so I got to come home instead and feed green beans to the parrot. It would have been OK either way. Weather’s better down there, but I have roasted squash and potatoes here. And home. To little of that, and can’t take it for granted.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    October 20, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    @Scamp Dog

    Even peppier in Portuguese with a samba slant.

  21. 21.

    jl

    October 20, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Someone tell Yglesias we need specifics on the specifics.

    Not sue whether Yglesias’ superficial generalities are superficially general or profoundly specifically general.

  22. 22.

    srv

    October 20, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    And if anyone’s prepared to give us some nice, well-polished superficial…

    Apart from profundicity, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

    First world upnerd superficial dudebro problems: patent review board reviewing

  23. 23.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 20, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    @Mandalay:

    Pretty much, he sounds like a good guy.

    ETA: How is his first name pronounced? Go, Gow, Guff, Goff, Goo, other?

  24. 24.

    GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)

    October 20, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    In all seriousness, people want change, but not change that is made in opposition to their personal bias.

    I saw a perfect example the other day on C&D in a thread about broken wheels on the new Jaguar. One commentator stated we need to raise taxes to fix our infrastructure.

    Another commentator countered by stating we don’t need to raise taxes…we just need a big pile of money bearing interest from which we could fix our infrastructure.

    The stupid, it burns.

  25. 25.

    El Caganer

    October 20, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Ah, Wiggles, one of America’s leading proponents of Radical Centrism: “Neither side does it!”

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    October 20, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    The subset of GOP-ers are more dedicated to implementing the status quo ante.

  27. 27.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 20, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Whatever happened to MY’s buddy, former frontpager EDK?

  28. 28.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    October 20, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    I’m somewhere around Eau Claire headed back to Minneapolis after the Gophers reclaimed the #1 ranking by sweeping Wisconsin.

    Megabus is a fine idea but I’m not pleased with the execution. I may actually have less seat room than I would on an airplane and it’s stiflingly hot in here.

  29. 29.

    5x5

    October 20, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    @different-church-lady: My niece said “yes” to the computer. I’m sorry.

  30. 30.

    Mike J

    October 20, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    @Mandalay:

    And gave us our current national anthem

    It always brings a tear to my eye.

    youtube.com/watch?v=B4gru7Ial3k

  31. 31.

    Howard Beale IV

    October 20, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    @Felonius Monk: I though I heard that as:

    “Pardon me Roy, was that the cat they chewed your new shoes, new shows, new shoes”…..

  32. 32.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 20, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    BTW my weekend trip to the World Market was a bust, I didn’t find most of the ingredients I wanted and it is too late to order stuff online before Diwali. I has a sad.

  33. 33.

    Mandalay

    October 20, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: “Goff”, and come to think of it I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone else with that name…

  34. 34.

    magurakurin

    October 20, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Matthew Iglesias, the guy who said that even though he has a 2 million dollar apartment in NYC he isn’t rich because he’d have to sell the apartment to get the cash.

    ._.

  35. 35.

    Another Holocene Human

    October 20, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Plenty of people like it enough to take MegaBus instead of Amtrak and suppress Midwest Amtrak prices and ridership, which makes it tougher to sell investing in Amtrak infrastructure in the future even though, ya know, plenty of people do not want to be jammed into a bus like sardines in a can for several hours non-stop and would take the train if it was a viable option.

  36. 36.

    agorabum

    October 20, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    @Mandalay: for some of those, it seems remarkable that they had not been implemented yet. So some low hanging Aussie fruit. But the rest is pretty impressive – a testament to getting things done with a parliamentary majority.

  37. 37.

    Steeplejack

    October 20, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Her schedule is most punctual.

  38. 38.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    October 20, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    @GHayduke (formerly lojasmo): OT, but I can’t resist…

    I saw a perfect example the other day on C&D in a thread about broken wheels on the new Jaguar.

    There was a time when Ed(itor) would throw a fit if anyone referred to “Car and Driver” as “C&D” rather than “C/D”. They were so much better than “Road & Track”, you see. ;-)

    Cheers,
    Scott.
    (Who hasn’t read it since the mid-80s or so…)

  39. 39.

    PurpleGirl

    October 20, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: When is Diwali? Granted I don’t do much actual cooking, but I like having Indian food in the house for the holiday. (Candles, well, I have lots of candles, lots of votive sized candles too.) This is me in my guise as an adherent of EODW (Equal Opportunity Deity Worshipper). If the holiday strikes a chord with my soul, I celebrate it.)

  40. 40.

    Chris

    October 21, 2014 at 12:55 am

    @Davis X. Machina:

    “Americans want to elect Republicans and get Democratic results.”
    – me

  41. 41.

    Origuy

    October 21, 2014 at 1:21 am

    @PurpleGirl: Looks like Diwali is this coming Thursday. I had butter chicken in the cafeteria at work today. There’s a Diwali celebration at work every year. Food, dancing; one year they had an Indo-American comedian. I didn’t get most of the jokes, but then I’m an Anglo-Celtic American.

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