So much fail:
@EWErickson Ummm. Michael Griffin, Paul Hill, Scott Roeder, Jim David Adkisson, Reic Rudolph, the KKK- want me to go on? #christianswhokill
— John Cole (@Johngcole) October 23, 2014
I guess the “old” followers don’t count. He’s clearly never watched Soldiers in the Army of God.
Alison
Well, you know how it is. Anyone who is not white/male/straight/Christian is automatically a PERFECT REPRESENTATION of whatever demographics they’re a part of, whereas anyone who is w/m/s/C is just one lone person, bad apple, tsk tsk, such a shame, poor fella.
Also, fuck that guy. I try to be nonviolent but I really wish someone would kick him in the junk.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Queuing the “Those are no TRUE Christians” from Erick Erikson (because all good Christians fantasize about being a blood thirsty pagan) in 5, 4, 3, 2,…
ronin122
Eh, Erick Son of Erick is low-hanging fruit who has seen better days on the wingnut welfare circuit. Which reminds me, who IS actually big these days? I kinda tuned them all out over the last few years (way too many of them, all saying the same shit) and can’t say who’s in control of getting the money in the media, especially with all the falls from “grace” like Limbaugh lately.
Adam Lang
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Well, he certainly fantasizes about committing genocide against brown people. Does that make him not a ‘true Christian’ too? (In his own estimation, I mean. I know what he is in my estimation.)
Howard Beale IV
Poor Erick son of Erick. They are true believers who will get their eternal reward, dotchaknow-it’s just that their temporal reward is kinda sucky because unlike the pretty much the current feudal areas of Syria/Iraq , most of the world has a somewhat functional, albeit slightly to incredibly corrupt legal system depending on wildly varying circumstances.
It’s very easy in both the Koran and the Bible to find the appropriate text to support using deadly force to support the faith-they just don’t want to really accept THAT text.
@Alison: Speaking of junk shots….
Suzanne
Oh, fuck that dude. Seriously. Rusty pitchfork time.
Not to mention all those winners who leave their guns out for their toddlers to shoot each other. That alone inflates the list to a sickening degree.
I am fatigued. There are times that I emotionally cannot deal with how fucked up the world is and our country’s politics, and I find myself just completely out of outrage and shock and liberal guilt and fire to fight with. I am an introvert, and when I need emotional energy, I retreat. I have found myself doing that for the last couple of months. Between Michael Brown and everyone shitting their pants about Ebola, I need the crazy people to shut up and go on break. Maybe I could send them on a lovely international vacation. With one-way tickets.
The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
@Suzanne:
I’m pretty much the same way, and the fact that it seems like the professional GOP trolls keep fucking winning over and over and fucking over again, and at the very least get their version of events treated like the goddamn gospel truth with minimal credulity while Dems, liberals, etc. have to submit a fucking thousand page paper with cites, references, and a doctors note, and any small mistake means the entire left wing is somehow bankrupt is just….
Fuck all. I honest to god wish I drank at a time like this. I just want it all to go away, and I know it won’t, and it’ll just keep getting fucking worse because the country goddamn loves conservatives and hates us too goddamn much.
A Menagerie called Abdul
@ronin122: The one who has been getting his Twitter account suspended recently for posting personal info is Chuck C. Johnson – NOT to be confused with Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs.
I’m still toying with the idea of creating an app where if you run across a person who’s injured and you take a picture of them it will do a facial recognition lookup in a database and if they’re a conservative/libertarian/GOP/Blue Dog/Kardashian, it will come back and say – “render no aid”.
NotMax
@The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
(raises and waves hand, Horshack-style) Selflessly volunteer to drink for you.
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
Suzanne
@The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik: Normally, I am all fired up around election time. This year, I am exhausted and I want it to be over already.
dance around in your bones
I don’t listen to political ads. I rely on Balloon Juice for my info ( ok, a few other sources too) but I know – I am VOTING this year and I am voting straight Democratic, warts and all, because I have had it with these wacky ass Republicans and their crazy delusions.
If you have to take a break from the politics for your own sanity, do it – but VOTE!
Violet
Eric’s talking about new Jesus followers. Recent converts. I guess long time Jesus followers who shoot people don’t count in his book.
piratedan
@Violet: because they’re obviously infused with the holy spirit and everyone knows that Baby Jeebus was in favor of second amendment remedies…and judge not lest ye be judged etc etc etc…these guys are all using Maggot, AJ (Telly Savalas in the Dirty Dozen) as a role model, not a cautionary example….
dance around in your bones
Somebody please stop me from eating this whole pint of chocolate fudge brownie ice cream.
I’m not fat, I just need to stop eating it – but it’s SO good!
PurpleGirl
@dance around in your bones: If you put it away now, you can eat it later in the day. And by later I mean 10 or 12 hours from now.
scav
@dance around in your bones: It’s Diwali, I think sweets are to be cherished. Sorry. (If I was closer, I’d be of more use as I’d be using my spoon to bat away yours).
Insert long rant here. I don’t think my command of invective is living up to the task nor doing full justice to the targets.
ETA: Target not decent people with ice cream.
piratedan
@dance around in your bones: you can ONLY continue to consume it if you’re also dancing to Weird Al Yankovic’s “Eat It” being played loudly in the room.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
I am now laying in bed in the *NEW* apartment. There is still so. much. shit. to sort through at the old place, but our furniture and the cats are here, so I guess this is where we live now. No internet yet — G is staying home from work tomorrow to get all of that set up.
Keaton and Annie are settling in okay, but Charlotte is still hissing at the furniture because it looked at her funny. We have them confined to the bedroom and “their” bathroom until tomorrow night at the earliest.
dance around in your bones
@PurpleGirl: Ok! I just put it away! Though I am mourning, big time :(
@scav: You can’t have my fudge brownie !!! Well, maybe – if you were here with me :)
@piratedan: OK, playing it as we speak – does that mean I can eat the whole pint??!!
“Get yourself an egg and beat it” Ha!
burnspbesq
This is some seriously crazy shit.
https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/244022349
PurpleGirl
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): Yay! and best wishes for a great living experience in the new place. Charlotte will get used to the new furniture positions and atmosphere, hopefully sooner rather than later.
PurpleGirl
@dance around in your bones: I have a Skinny Cow chocolate mouse ice cream bar in my freezer, which I want ever so much. But had one earlier this evening… I know how you feel.
Violet
@dance around in your bones: You’re making me want ice cream and I’m supposed to be sleeping.
dance around in your bones
@PurpleGirl: Last night I ate a half pint of cookie dough ice cream.
Oooooo – I am bad. But – I have no fat problem – yet!!!!
@Violet:
Aw, go ahead – it won’t kill ya ! I love me some ice cream :)
Ruckus
@PurpleGirl:
I find that if I just don’t buy ice cream I’m fine. If it’s in the freezer then it has to be consumed. OK, OK, I’ll admit it, I’m an ice cream junkie. Ice cream does satisfy all 4 food groups, Doesn’t It?
Violet
@dance around in your bones: Don’t have any in the house. I’m not going out at this hour to get some, despite 24 hour grocery stores!
@Ruckus: Yes, yes it does. Dairy, sugar, chocolate and yum. I think that’s all four food groups.
dance around in your bones
@Ruckus: YES!
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): I just moved into a new place, so I know how you feel. I don’t have any pets at the moment, but am trying to bond with my employers foo dog. OMG = this dog is treated like a prince. Which he is, in his owners eyes.
Anyway, hope you enjoy your new space as much as I do mine :)
Violet
@dance around in your bones: You have your own apartment where you’re living now? Kitchen too? Or do you just get a room. Sounds fabulous either way.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@PurpleGirl:
We’re all adapting. I knew I had a lot of stuff but HOLY CRAP do I have a lot of stuff. Horrifying amounts of it. About three times as many clothes than I can physically fit into my dresser and closet space, for one, and I am by no means a clotheshorse. It’s all t-shirts and suchlike.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@dance around in your bones:
I have a feeling you may not have had the sheer carloads of excess stuff that I have. I probably have enough purses now that I could carry a different one every week for a full year without a repeat. And yet I love them all, damn it.
Violet
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): Moving is a good chance to go through things but you can also end up just putting everything in a box and moving it like I had to do. Ran out of time.
dance around in your bones
@Violet: Yes, I have my own apartment with a kitchen in the new place I moved to. You would NOT believe how fortunate I am in finding this place!!! I thank FSM, Gaia, Buddha and any other gawds one might like to mention! It is fabulous.
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): I’m sure I didn’t have anywhere near the stuff that you had moving out – I was living in a one bedroom suite, sort of – but it’s amazing what one can accumulate in 3 years in such a small space!!
I donated a bunch of stuff to the local thrift store. The rest I have found storage space for ( in the house I live in now).
I have been SO lucky, I have NO idea why,
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Violet:
We were talking to a co-worker of mine and his wife at a company party and they were telling us about the “second sort” they did after moving into their house. It made us feel better to know that other people also end up moving stuff they later get rid of.
@dance around in your bones:
Yep, we’ve already arranged pickups from a couple of different charities, with more to come. Still, I have TONS of stuff at the old place that I need to at least screen before giving away. I have an unfortunate history of impulsively giving things away and then regretting it.
low-tech cyclist
John – this is small potatoes. The Christian right seems to feel that when it comes to talking about their political enemies, they’ve got a permanent exemption from “thou shalt not bear false witness.”
And that goes back as far as they’ve had political enemies, i.e. at least as far back as the rise of the ‘religious right’ in the late 1970s. Pat Robertson does it all the time, Jerry Falwell did too, and so forth.
This is nothing new. I’m surprised nobody talks about the Christian Right’s Ninth Commandment problem, because telling false stories about those they don’t like is pretty much second nature to them nowadays.
Steeplejack
Lately I have been allowing myself a three-pack a week of Dove bars—vanilla ice cream, dark chocolate shell—to see if I can consume them on a semi-“normal” schedule and not just scarf them down in a single orgy. So far so good. The discrete bar unit seems to help with consumption. I’m hapless with buying containers of ice cream, because I think I’ll have “just a spoonful or two” directly from the carton and then I don’t stop. So a lot of the time, like Ruckus, I just don’t have it in the house.
dance around in your bones
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
Well, you know what they say about clothes – if you haven’t worn it in a year, toss it out. I used to have this problem with keeping 5 different sizes of jeans thinking that ‘one day, I might fit into them again!’
Hahaha. Now I just ruthlessly toss them out. I can always go to Goodwill and get equally good clothes for a fraction of the price (in Santa Barbara).
Every time I have moved, I have shed more and more stuff, and it feels pretty good. Eventually I will be like one of those Sannyasa in India who goes around with a begging bowl and not much else. HA!
PurpleGirl
@dance around in your bones:
I have been SO lucky, I have NO idea why,
Don’t wonder why… JUST ENJOY! You deserve it.
Steeplejack
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
I just got done (in August) doing a big decluttering/spring cleaning/unpacking that included some boxes that had been unopened since I moved into this apartment two years ago. A lot of that stuff went directly into the “I don’t need it, get it out of here” pipeline—duh!—but what surprised me was how many things surfaced that were in the “Jeez, I could have really used this the last two years!” category. And a few little art objects and mementos that I had completely forgotten that I had. Those were a pleasant surprise.
I feel like I’ve got a good handle on all my stuff now. The next phase is to pare down—mostly clothes I haven’t worn in a long time, non-keeper books and, oddly enough, glassware. I like different glasses, but I have way too many.
dance around in your bones
@PurpleGirl:
Thanks, PurpleGirl – you’re right, I shouldn’t question it, just be grateful/thankful. It’s a gawd dang miracle.
Chris
@Suzanne:
Know exactly how you feel. Perhaps oddly, the five years straight of non-stop teabagger hysteria have actually done more for my exhaustion than the Bush administration. The LOTR “what can men do against such reckless hate?” quote keeps popping up into my head.
That said,
@dance around in your bones:
what you said. Vote, and vote straight ticket Democrat.
Chris
@dance around in your bones:
And yeah, I, too, get news in large part from places like Balloon Juice. Entirely too much, to be frank, because relying on political blogs for your news isn’t healthy no matter how worthwhile the politics. But… where else does one go? The MSM? Fox?
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
Erickson is a poser. REAL Christians are all about Jesus Camp, where grooming suicide bombers is looked on as a standard to be aspired to.
delk
Probably because there are more new Jesus leavers than new Jesus followers.
Jay C
And in any case, not that Erickson would care,Ottawa shooter Michael Zehaf-Bibeau (née Michael J. Hall) apparently converted to Islam “at least ten years ago“, so his use of “new follower” is, par for the course, a bit misleading. Whatta shock…
delk
@burnspbesq:
As the judge who overturned Kentucky’s gay marriage ban said:
“These arguments are not those of serious people.”
—– Federal District Judge John G. Heyburn II
Patrick
Or how about Pat Robertson who said “we should take him out” about the leader of Venezuela. As far as I know, Robertson was a Christian. I’m assuming Mr Erickson forgot.
Keith G
I have never been a big fan of the, “Our religion is better than your religion” bullshit. I find both of the above religions extremely problematic. To me, the question becomes what is the body of the followers of these religions doing to clean up their house and or work to mitigate the troubling actions of the worst elements of their fellow believers.
jonas
How about unrepentant Christian supremacist Anders Brevik who, in proportion to Norway’s population, killed more people than Islamic terrorists did in the US on 9/11 — most of them children. And let’s not forget as well that the KKK was first and foremost a Christian organization dedicated to terrorism against the country’s black population.
Kathleen
@PurpleGirl: Or 1 hour. That will work, too. But don’t listen to me. I am ice cream addict when I get going.
Ruckus
@dance around in your bones:
“I have NO idea”
That’s why, no expectations. Those always get me in trouble.
rea
A disproportionate number of the biggest mass murderers in history (Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Hong Xiuquan, for examples) were Christians of a sort or raised Christian.
dance around in your bones
@Ruckus:
Maybe that’s it – no expectations! I tend to horribilize, so I was envisioning myself in a homeless shelter or…well, you get the idea.
Hmmmm – maybe that doesn’t fit with ‘no expectations’, or at least, no reasonable expectations.
I wish you could see the sun coming up here – it’s incredibly beautiful.
Barry
Actually, all of those US politicians, preachers and fundy/evangelical talking heads and military officers who were whipping up a ‘crusade’ in the Middle East are doing *exactly* that, with higher technology.
kindness
@Alison:
Do you remember that scene from the movie Airplane where the line formed to quiet that one little girl who was freaking out? That is what I see with this.
Chris
@rea:
What’s the Christian link with GK?
And mad props for the reference to Hong Xiuqan. I don’t know much about him and most Westerners have never heard of him, but I understand he played a huge part in shaping modern China’s… *skeptical* attitude towards Christianity.
Chris
By the way –
Forgive me for Godwinning (or don’t, I barely care), but is it too shrill and uncivil to compare this with, y’know, Holocaust denial? The claim that “I don’t know any Jesus followers who went out and killed” is so ludicrously ahistorical I don’t even know what to call it, and yes, it stretches all the way to the modern day, so this is kind of taking a massive shit on the graves of all the victims of [insert favorite brute squad here. General Franco? Central America’s war criminals? The IRA? The UVF? The Klan? The Lebanese Falange? Shutting up now, or I’ll be at this all day…]
Big Picture Pathologist
@Violet:
ROFL
Frankensteinbeck
@delk:
I’m always flabbergasted at the lack of historical knowledge in Fundamentalist Christian arguments. They just assume the 50s – and an imaginary 50s, at that – is how it’s always been. Marriage is traditionally about property rights, not reproduction. Inheritance to direct offspring is only one aspect of those rights. Modern married couple benefits perfectly fit the definition.
@Barry:
Power imbalance. When you know your army can, will, and is whipping their army, you hardly ever resort to suicide bombing. We’re being MORE violent.
Villago Delenda Est
@low-tech cyclist:
Both Mammon-worshiping scum.
Villago Delenda Est
@jonas:
Not to mention Catholics. Who are not Christians, according to the KKK.
Jews, too.
Ripley
The young carpenter from Nazareth? I know him well. Promising young man. He died badly.
Villago Delenda Est
@Ripley:
At the hands of people like Fuck Fuckerson.
rea
@Chris: What’s the Christian link with GK?
Nestorian Christianity was very prominent among the Mongols in GK’s day. Some writers I have read say that he was raised Christian by his mother, although admittedly that’s not as clear as I made it sound in my comment above. Certainly there were a lot of Christians among his followers.
patrick II
We have a winner for most destructive religious warrior in the 21st century — and he is not islamic. However, his “mission from God” has caused the deaths of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands in the middle east:
Woodrowfan
If he wants very recent examples, he could look at the various African “Christians” who have recently been killing gays and “witches.” And they’re being amped up by various Rightwing American preachers, the type that Erik, Son of Erik, hangs out with…
low-tech cyclist
@Villago Delenda Est:
No argument there, but really, why does nobody ever call them on it? Especially at one of those times when they’re trying to plant the Ten Commandments on some courthouse lawn – that would be an excellent time to say, “hey, we’ve noticed you guys don’t seem to pay much attention to #9, #9, #9….”