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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2014 / Your Failed Media in Action

Your Failed Media in Action

by John Cole|  October 29, 20144:25 pm| 42 Comments

This post is in: Election 2014, The War On Women, Assholes, Our Failed Media Experiment

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Or should that read “inaction?” Here’s genuine asshole John Kasich with his opponent Ed Fitzgerald at a discussion with the editorial board of the Cleveland Plain Dealer in an endorsement interview, not only failing to answer why he thought it was ok to put a gag rule on rape crisis counselors despite the fact he allegedly supports choice in cases of rape, incest, or the health of the mother, but simply ignoring Fitzgerald.

The editorial board was fine with his answer. They were so fine with the answer that they later removed the video from their website and this is but a clip posted to youtube.

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  1. 1.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 29, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Kasich is every bit the vile sack of shit that you’d expect someone who is a former Faux Noise commentator would be.

    The assholes at the Cleveland Plain Dealer are apparently eager to be initiated into the Village.

  2. 2.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    October 29, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    He may as well ignore Fitzgerald. My union relatives in Ohio are, and voting unanimously for Kaisch. I’ve asked them why and they can’t/won’t give a straight answer. Probably afraid I’ll think they’re racists.

    I already know they’re racists, that boat sailed in 2012. But I’m curious if they have any other rationale besides “black president”.

  3. 3.

    BGinCHI

    October 29, 2014 at 4:38 pm

    As I said about the Trib and Sun Times, and as we have all said about the WaPo and others:

    Dear Newspapers,

    Please die soon. You suck at your job, which is not to host classified ads.

    Fuck you sincerely,

    America

  4. 4.

    BGinCHI

    October 29, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    I also have a version of that letter for op-ed columnists if anyone wants it.

  5. 5.

    dmsilev

    October 29, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Speaking of media failures, or at least failures being reported in the media, I think we can all support this NewsMax headline: “Sarah Palin: ‘Hopefully’ Running for Office Again”.

    Otherwise known as the Comedian Employment Act of 2016.

  6. 6.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik

    October 29, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    @CONGRATULATIONS!:

    That’s the thing that has possibly depressed me the most the last few years. Racism has come out into the open, and while it’s still taboo enough to not out yourself as an avowed racist, it’s more than mainstream enough to BE an out and out racist and basically win the day and the narrative because most of the country still is intrinsically racist and will act racist. They’ll just hem and haw and be offended when they’re called out on it.

    Oh, and calling people out on racism makes YOU the racist instead, so that makes you doubleplusungood if you try and point it out.

  7. 7.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    October 29, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    OT but had a busy afternoon at the house, the electrician came back to finish up the breaker box, the county inspector came out to approve it, the appliance repair guy came out to check out the dryer (it needs a new motor, turns out it is cheaper than a new dryer), right now the garage door installation guys are out there putting in the new garage door. The last thing that needs to be fixed is the back kitchen door with the completely destroyed dog door. It has been ordered from Lowes and we are just waiting for it to be installed. It is so nice to have things in the house working again. Now if I can just get the dryer fixed I won’t have to keep climbing over the washer to get to the fridge.

    I will be forever grateful to my wonderful Mum who got tired of me complaining about things that don’t work around here and that we couldn’t afford to fix and throwing a boat load of money into my bank account to enable us to get the repairs done. I have made a decision NOT to repair the a/c heat pump though, cause I am damn well not going to pay for the electricity to heat and cool an entire house when my husband and I use three rooms.

  8. 8.

    Violet

    October 29, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    @CONGRATULATIONS!: A lot of times the answers will be things like, “He seems like a good guy.” “I like him.” There is no real answer, at least not as it relates to political issues. The “I like him” crowd is going on emotion and feeling and, sure, a lot of that will be things they don’t want to look at, like racism.

  9. 9.

    Amir Khalid

    October 29, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    @dmsilev:
    I’d ask, who would be dumb enough to believe Sarah Palin means to run for (or serve in) any office. But I think I know already: they’re the very people she’s been fleecing these last five years.

  10. 10.

    kindness

    October 29, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    What a mealy mouth lying sack of shit.

    How anyone can vote for this is beyond me.

  11. 11.

    Another Holocene Human

    October 29, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik: What about #Ferguson? Documented in excruciating detail.

    Oh, sorry, I forgot. They doubled down.

  12. 12.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    October 29, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    I just came across a great blog post from Gail the Actuary (formerly of TheOilDrum) from last month.

    Low oil (and commodity) prices are bad, and debt is good:

    […]

    The transformation that took place was huge: from wooden tools and human or animal labor to a modern industrial society. How could such a big change take place? Before the change, the ability to generate a profit that might be used for future capital investment was very limited. Also, the would-be purchasers of products made in an industrial economy were very poor. I would argue that the only way of bridging this gap was debt. See my earlier posts, Why Malthus Got His Forecast Wrong and The United States’ 65-Year Debt Bubble.

    The use of debt has several advantages:

    1. It allows the consumer to buy the end product made with the new resources, assuming the end product isn’t too expensive relative to the consumer’s earnings.

    2.It gives resource-extracting businesses the money they need to buy equipment and to hire workers, prior to the time they have earned profits from resource extraction.

    3. It gives the companies the ability to build factories, before they have accumulated profits to pay for the factories.

    4. It allows governments to fund needed infrastructure, such as roads and bridges, before having the tax revenue available to pay for such infrastructure.

    5. Most importantly, the “demand” generated by (1), (2), (3) and (4) raises the price of resources sufficiently that it makes it profitable for companies in the business to extract those resources.

    Because of these issues, debt and cheap fossil fuels have a symbiotic relationship.

    […]

    It’s long, but carefully and persuasively argued.

    Keep stuff like this in mind when you hear arguments about how horrible debt is. It’s kinda late for the election, but someone should ask Republican candidates who rail against debt why they want to impoverish us all…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  13. 13.

    Anoniminous

    October 29, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    We put in a multi-split heat/cool pump system a year ago and we love it. It allows us to heat or cool only the rooms we regularly use and the others as-needed. Since the house didn’t come with any heat – don’t ask – the multi-split ended-up being cheaper than the alternatives once the rebate was subtracted from the cost estimate. The operating cost is about the same and 3/4s of our previous wood stove + oil heaters for more area.

  14. 14.

    currants

    October 29, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Too bad. I’ve seen good stuff at the Cleveland Plain Dealer–they won a Pulitzer a few years back, no? Wasn’t it Sherrod Brown’s wife? Connie Shultz? Maybe I’m wrong.

  15. 15.

    Violet

    October 29, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    @dmsilev: @Amir Khalid: Sarah Palin will never run for office again. But she has to cock tease her financial supporters or the money won’t keep rolling in. That’s what that is all about.

  16. 16.

    Violet

    October 29, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Glad you are getting things fixed but I thought you were moving back to the UK?

  17. 17.

    BGinCHI

    October 29, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Anyone see a good article on what the consequences are likely to be for the Fed’s ending QE?

    Hope Krugman will blog about it….

  18. 18.

    Raoul

    October 29, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    I am so pissed about all the ways the table is being tilted for the GOP.

    When I read about the dismissal of the 40,000 voter registrations in Georgia earlier, I thought “well in that case, let’s go get gun permits for these 40,000 unaccounted for folks. That’ll get GA’s attention.”

  19. 19.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    October 29, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    @BGinCHI: My impression is that there will be little, if any, effect. It’s been baked into the cake for months, and $10-$15B a month is tiny compared to the size of the problem.

    Tim Duy (via CalculatedRisk)

    HTH.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  20. 20.

    Joel Hanes

    October 29, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    You should, if you can, copy the clip to a local server and serve it from there.

    In a complete inversion of the proper role of a free press, the CPD is trying to get Google to suppress this information.

  21. 21.

    d58826

    October 29, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    In order to protect the citizens of Maine from the scourge of Ebola the gov. is going to court to get an order to imprison the nurse for the rest of the 21 day quarantine period.

    Two people have come down with Ebola after returning from West Africa and the political clowns are falling all over themselves to have people coming in from West Africa treated like criminals. What’s next state run Gitmos? It just lets these fools show what manly men they are.

    While Cuomo/Christie were doing their little dance on Friday, three kids died in the latest school shooting (includes the shooter) and two cops were killed in Calif. Those are just the cases that made the headlines, I’m sure the numbers are higher. And how has the political class reacted to the daily dose of gun deaths —– (crickets).

    Why not use the money that is being wasted on quarantines on lining up every citizen in Maine and giving them a flu shot. THAT will save lives but it doesn’t have that heroic appeal to it. .

  22. 22.

    Kathleen

    October 29, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    @currants: You are right. Connie Schultz won a Pulitzer when she was a columnist at the Plain Dealer. (And she is married to Sherrod Brown). Great people.

  23. 23.

    Mike in NC

    October 29, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    Here’s genuine asshole John Kasich

    But does he come with a Certificate of Authenticity?

  24. 24.

    PsiFighter37

    October 29, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    I can’t believe how hard the Ohio Democratic Party screwed the pooch on this one / how freakin’ thin the bench is in Ohio. It’s too bad we couldn’t get Ted Strickland to run again, but the way FitzGerald imploded earlier this year is a joke. And the fact he’s losing to Kasich, who is your typical establishment conservative asshole, i.e. one who approved crazy shit but now has the aura of being a ‘moderate’ around him, is so frustrating.

    The good thing is that Kasich has the charisma of a sack of potatoes and will be worthless in 2016. But Democrats better pray that people dislike either Josh Mandel or Jon Husted enough to give them the boot – otherwise they’re going to be shut out again

    Wonder what Kay’s thoughts are, but have to imagine it’s incredibly demoralizing and might result in a GOP wipeout (although I think the state’s already gerrymandered to the max).

  25. 25.

    Lee Hartmann

    October 29, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    In my youth the PD was a left-leaning newspaper but it has been bought out by right-wingers.

  26. 26.

    RaflW

    October 29, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    @d58826:

    Two people have come down with Ebola after returning from deepest, blackest West Africa and the political clowns are falling all over themselves to have people coming in from darkest, blackity-blackest West Africa treated like criminals

    Quote enhanced, just, y’know, to clarify things a bit.

  27. 27.

    d58826

    October 29, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    @RaflW: Yep. That is certainly part of it

  28. 28.

    Manyakitty

    October 29, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    @CONGRATULATIONS!: I’m going to hold my nose and vote for Fitzgerald, but he’s unelectable. What kind of person forgets to about his driver’s license for 5-10 years? It’s just one example, but this guy is a clusterf33k. How is he the best we can put forth against Kasich?

  29. 29.

    Barbara

    October 29, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Thank you for posting this comment so I didn’t have to. You saved me a bit of time. I agree with everything you, and Manyakitty wrote.

    I’ve said/written this over and over, but this is not the state I moved to in 1979. Well, we do have Sherrod Brown, he is a treasure.

  30. 30.

    Kay

    October 29, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    @PsiFighter37:

    Wonder what Kay’s thoughts are, but have to imagine it’s incredibly demoralizing and might result in a GOP wipeout (although I think the state’s already gerrymandered to the max).

    It’s bad but they think they can beat Mandel and maybe get two supreme court seats.

    One funny thing, my “cool” son, the middle one who is a great person but has never cared about politics and has lots of anti-politics, blase, disinterested friends is a little horrified by the prospect of a GOP sweep. He DOES care! :)

    Anyway. He voted, and he even wrote the judicial candidates I like on his hand so he’d get it right.

    It’s a bad year. I don’t think there’s any denying that in this state. I went to two county “rally the vote” dinners and a Teamster event, so they’re trying, but there’s no putting a good face on it.

  31. 31.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    kasich went against the grain and moved to expand medicare in spite of the tea bagging assholes. other than that, he’s a bought-and-paid for repub. between jobs ohio and the fracking frackers, he’s got friends with deep pockets and money to burn, and doesn’t need to acknowledge anyone, ever, for anything.

    fitzgerald, fisher before him, have pretty much wrecked the state party. there are some firebrands in the legislature that keep things moving, (THANK YOU, MR REDFERN!!), but as noted, the damned bench is thin thin thin. the death of manufacturing and the downstate red invasion from the south have indelibly purpled this state.

    the cleveland plain dealer ceased to be a newspaper sometime in the 90’s. now its just conservative mouthpiece for lining bird cages.

  32. 32.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    @BruceFromOhio

    : the cleveland plain dealer ceased to be a newspaper sometime in the 90’s.

    It’s better than the Columbus Dispatch.

    ETA: When I lived in Columbus, I read the NYT, and the two alt papers (Alive and The Other Paper). The Dispatch was useless – even the sports pages, since I am not a Buckeye fan.

  33. 33.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    October 29, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    It’s better that the Columbus Dispatch.

    It’s also better than the Cincinnati Enquirer. Those are very low bars indeed. Mere millimeters.

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): It is possible that the Toledo Blade is the best paper in the state.

  35. 35.

    Kay

    October 29, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I have a lot of affection for The Blade because of… coingate (!)

    That was fun. They were all getting indicted there for a while.

    Tom Troy from the Blade once called me at the law office to get a quote about whatever Romney said about Ohio Art. I don’t recall what Romney said, but it was a big deal for about 20 minutes.

    Anyway, I ASK THE QUESTIONS in my little work- world, I don’t answer them, so I asked Troy what HE thought about it. He was really taken aback. I don’t think they’re used to that. He was probably thinking “worst interview ever” :)

  36. 36.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    @Kay: Coingate is what brought the Blade to my mind.

  37. 37.

    Kay

    October 29, 2014 at 11:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    They’re not jerks. I was at a rally for Issue Two in 2011 and the Blade reporter was there leaning against the wall, looking hot and tired. It got a litttle out of control and some of them started chanting “fuck the Tea Party”. So I want to win the referendum and I’m nervous, “people might think we’re not bipartisan centrists!”

    I was sure the clip would show up on the website and scare away the notoriously skittish Independents, or whatever the hell stupid thing I was worrying about. But. They didn’t mention the shouted, chanting profanity in the Blade piece the next day, so I thought that was generous of them.

  38. 38.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    Blade is decent… the little paper that could. They did a lot of good work recently with the algae bloom mucking up the water supply. Just the facts, ma’am, that was the go-to source for information about what was happening.

    The PeeDee still has a decent sports page, credit where its due. With three major sports teams and some fun minors (baseball, soccer, hockey) plus the local high school and college scene, there is plenty of fodder for the cattle.

  39. 39.

    debbie

    October 30, 2014 at 7:16 am

    The editorial board wasn’t fine with it. On a local NPR call-in show the next day, I heard a reporter who was at that meeting talking about how weird Kasich behaved. They’re all pretty unhappy that only one Republican (the Auditor) agreed to a debate. Some democracy.

  40. 40.

    debbie

    October 30, 2014 at 7:29 am

    On the other hand, the board’s not good with anyone seeing this video:

    talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kasich-plain-dealer-interview-plunderbund

  41. 41.

    Manyakitty

    October 30, 2014 at 8:26 am

    @Barbara: Vote for Nina Turner–she seems really solid.

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