Looka this pretty doggie:
Interesting football games on today. There’s a thread on it below. My team threw away a late fourth quarter lead and lost in overtime, but if our crappy coach gets punted out of The Swamp, it’ll be a small price to pay.
My kid is doing a stop-motion film project this evening. She said, “Mom, can you sculpt a 4-1/2 inch tall replica of Rodin’s ‘The Thinker’? Right now?”
So I said, “Sure!”
That’s what I’m doing. You?
UPDATE: Wah-lah!
The things we do for our kids…
Phylllis
Packing for Pittsburgh. Where the forecast on Monday is 100% snow. Why do I think it’s not like southern snow, where it snows, it’s pretty for ten minutes, then it melts?
Anne Laurie
Out of wine-bottle foil?
Baud
You’re a good mom, Betty. I would have told her I’m too busy doing important stuff on the Internet.
Keith G
Getting ready to stand for several hours on the floor of a basketball arena listening to Jake Bugg and then the Black Keys. As a consolation due to my 50 + years, I stopped at a hardware store to buy a few sets of those ear plug thingies that are connected by a chord.
satby
I’m gathering the items for a soap order I just got, was that you by any chance Betty? If so, you’re just across the bay from my mom on Isla del Sol. Definitely need a FL meet:-p next time I’m down.
And we spell our first names the same.
The Dangerman
As for “playing like a dog”, we have Mississippi State. They look overmatched.
Fuck
The YankeesAlabamasatby
@Keith G: geezer. I thought most of us have hearing loss from the concerts of our youth by this age anyway.
Denali
Picture, please, of the sculpture.
Mike J
@Denali: Video.
dance around in your bones
Betty, y’alj just have to sculpt a guy taking a dump on a toilet..
It”ll pass, I guarantee it !!
Please let us see it when it’s done!!!!!
BD of MN
My homebrew club did our annual cider buy today, and since I have access to a truck, I haul the 250gal tote around, so I end up with the 5 gal I ordered, plus usually a bit of leftovers. Today I ended up with 25 (!) gallons of fresh, unpasteurized cider, the pressing this year is a blend of Regent, Cortland, Sweet Tango, and Honeycrisp. Guess tomorrow I’m heading back to the store for more yeast…
Bruuuuce
The 3TB external drive arrived yesterday, so I’m taking a full backup of each of the 1TB music and video partitions on my main desktop, and will then repurpose the old 1.5TB drive to back up everyone else’s partition plus the general purpose library that contains software, graphics, etc.
While that’s going on, I plan to prepare tonight’s dinner of chicken hearts with egg noodles in a balsamic sauce, and then I’ll root for the Knicks to finally win a game. (And for them to trade JR Smith for a bag of slashed basketballs, a clear profit for NY.) Good thing football season is done, with the Giants looking as if most of the offseason experimental acquisitions have failed, and the Jets playing up to their abilities (and me loving watching it: buh-bye, Idzik and everyone down to the QB).
becca
How much wine do you have to drink to make it?
It’s gonna be made of wine foil per usual, right?
JohnK
From Vox: A definitive ranking of the most overrated and underrated dog breeds. Taking the dogs to the beach for a romp and game of chase on the snow covered sand.
Another Holocene Human
Sorry to hear about the heartbreaker, Betty. I’ve thought he should have been fired middle of last season, but after the GA-FL game everybody was up his tuchus.
BBall season just started. Gator Football is old news.
tybee
what’s the plant in the background?
ruemara
I am drinking triple sec coffee and staring at a 3d model. In my head, I am animating it. In my heart, I have nothing. I needed a walk this morning, but I should have just gotten up, turned on the machine and finished these shots. I’m finding i have no heart for anything any more, it’s really a drag on doing stuff. I should also go find some sort of hockey game playing thing so I can check my keyframes.
Felonius Monk
Here’s an interesting “stop-motion” project using “Skittles” and music as social commentary.
Amir Khalid
@JohnK:
See the “desirable” upper-right quadrant of the chart? Just to the right of the papillon, there is a cat.
burnspbesq
Just helped a client register their CA corporation to do business in WA. Yup, on Saturday. I love Secretary of State offices that have automated the routine, mindless crop.
burnspbesq
@Keith G:
If you go to a lot of concerts, consider investing in a set of customs.
Bruuuuce
@JohnK: “Definitive”? When it clearly misses two of the world’s great breeds, the Chinese Foo Dog and the Leonberger (both of which are criminally underrated)? Hmpf!
Another Holocene Human
@BD of MN: unpasteurized cider? I hate you
yes, I would take gastroenteritis in return for that sweet sweet* taste, although, actually, despite drinking windfall cider from a cow-infested orchard for years (until the state of Massachusetts shut them down) I never actually got sick …
*-not literally sweet, more of a raw/fresh taste, can’t describe it
Howard Beale IV
@JohnK: There’s one animal on that graphic that isn’t labeled. Looks like a cat.
Howard Beale IV
@Amir Khalid: Yep-that’s what i’m thinking as well.
Another Holocene Human
@ruemara: anomie, ruemara
call the crisis line in your area or 311. you need to talk to somebody.
you are having an emotional/hormonal crash and it doesn’t get better from here without some help
{{{{{ruemara}}}}}
burnspbesq
@Bruuuuce:
Football season is not done in East Rutherford. Becton Regional won its first-round playoff game.
Howard Beale IV
@Bruuuuce: HGST is now fielding 10TB drives to SAN/NAS manufacturers. Won’t be long before us peons can get single quantities.
Bruuuuce
@burnspbesq: Let me amend that to “the NFL season”. Though to be fair, I can still root against the Cowboys.
@Howard Beale IV: Maybe. But I needed a large drive for backups, and I couldn’t beat 3TB for $80 (and probably won’t do much better even if I waited a month for Black Thursday). I’m woefully behind on my backups, and want to avoid total disaster.
Roger Moore
@Amir Khalid:
And that cat would score even higher if dog people didn’t confuse trainability with intelligence. If you look at their characteristics, it’s no wonder cats do well:
Intelligence: cats are smart but not easily trainable, so they do poorly by the dog lovers’ scale
Longevity: cats live longer than even long lived dogs
Ailments: cats don’t have the same degree of inbreeding-related hereditary ailments that purebred dogs do
Costs: cats are relatively cheap to keep
Grooming: no comment necessary
Appetite: small compared to all but the smallest dog breeds
Morzer
Great statue of John Cole seated on the Iron.. I mean porcelain throne, Betty. You can see the straining, sad nobility in the face. Now that’s what I call art!
Omnes Omnibus
Melvin Gordon is going off on Nebraska. 369 yards rushing so far and it is still the 3rd quarter.
Betty Cracker
@tybee: That’s a Buddha belly bamboo. My hubby grows several varieties of bamboo.
Morzer
@ruemara:
If you can, do some sort of reasonably intense physical activity- maybe go for a brisk walk or do some wild aerobics/dance to a few favorite songs for half an hour or so. That might help to snap you out of the involuntarily inactive state.
Amir Khalid
@Roger Moore:
Also, it’s not true what dog partisans often allege: that cats don’t love their humans. A cat is just more its own creature than a dog is, that’s all.
Bob In Portland
Anyone else watch Portland’s finest horror TV show, “Grimm”, last night? In the episode someone threw a brick through the spice (potions) shop window as a threat, with a wolf’s hook on the brick. One of the characters described the history of the wolf’s hook, to include its adoption as an insignia of a Panzer group. What he didn’t say was its adoption by the Nazis in Kiev.
Morzer
@Amir Khalid:
After the revolution comes, those lying dogs will pay for their crimes, comrade! Liberté,egalité, felinité!
dance around in your bones
@ruemara: ruemara, hang in there.
When it seems most dark, there may be a light around the corner – you never know! When I was going through my “where the hell am I going to live with no job – no money – bum hip – and all, I SWEAR I woke up one morning and heard my son-in-law and his mom discussing EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY FAULTS.
It was so real that I went into son-in-law’s bedroom and said “That was quite a recitation of my faults this morning!”
He rubbed his eyes, looked at his watch, and said – I just woke up?! What the hell are you talking about??!! My daughter thought I’d had a psychotic episode, which perhaps I did – it was my own mind telling me how fucked up I am.
But, ya know – I’m not really fucked up! Not any more than most people! So……give yourself a break, visualize what kind of job you want in your life, and maybe – just maybe – it will materialize.
I know I sound like some stupid Pollyanna character, but it HAS happened for me even when I thought I was going to end up in a women’s homeless shelter.
You’re a good and true person, ruemara – remember that.
Howard Beale IV
@Bruuuuce:
That’s why I built a Windows Home Server using 3 sets of RAID 5 arrays: 1 for Music/Documents, 1 for automated backups of my main machine and my HTPC, and 1 for Videos.
@Roger Moore: Your knowledge of cats is incredibly bad. For starters, purebred cats have just as many inbred-related ailments as dogs do. Second, when it comes to grooming, cats shed like crazy-but Persians/Himalayans shed enough fur you can knit sweaters from they throw off from just one season. My Ozzie (a rescued Red Persian) is an excellent source of static electricity during the winter.
Betty Cracker
@ruemara: I’m sorry you’re having a rough time. I wish there was something I could do to help. If you lived next door, I’d cook for you and make you watch football with me.
Tree With Water
Open Thread commercial endorsement: Rain X for car windshields. Rain flows off in beads, which in conjunction with windshield wipers makes for much, much clearer visual while driving. It’s second wonderful attribute is repelling dirt,i.e., clean windshields stay cleaner longer. I boils down to a cheap way (ballpark-$5) to substantively enhance driving safety. I am in no way affiliated with the product, or whatever corporation it is that produces it.
Morzer
@Bob In Portland:
Did the show also fail to discuss the extensive network of Russian Neo-Nazi groups?
tokyo expat
I want to know about the stop motion. I did it with my students and am presenting on using it for EFL education next week at a teacher conference. It’s a great tool. What class did she do it for? What was the purpose, do you know? How’d it turn out? We used an iPhone app and it was so easy to create stop motion videos. The students really enjoyed the project.
Btw, awesome statue! Mine would still have looked like a lump of clay at the end.
dance around in your bones
@Roger Moore: Love love love cats!!!
Luckily I have one in the place I am living right now; grey with green eyes and a very low purr. He hung out on my bed all afternoon.
Cats are so much easier than dogs. And I have had had both, usually at the same time. All rescues.
Howard Beale IV
@Tree With Water:
I use Aquapel as a base coat, and then use Rain-X for touch-up.
debbie
Since there’s a bottle of Alessi in the background of the second photo, I have a question: I brought home a jar of Alessi sun-dried tomatoes in olive oil for the first time, and then noticed there are both white and brown spots the size of pennies on them. It doesn’t look like mold and the lid’s not bulging. Will I be dying if I eat them?
Omnes Omnibus
Gordon just broke the NCAA single game rushing record.
Jacks mom
Preparing to get ready to go to Mr. jacks mom company’s year end extravaganza award dinner! I hate these things so the prep includes several stiff drinks while donning the BLBD.
I’m actually feeling better about it all ready.
Awesome sculpture Betty!
Betty Cracker
@Tree With Water: Seconded.
@tokyo expat: Thanks! My kid is doing the stop-motion for a high school film class. I’m sure there are rules about it, but I don’t know what they are. She’s a camera nut and is using one of her own cameras for this project. She’s 16 but graduating this year because she’s super smart…takes after her father!
Tree With Water
@Howard Beale IV: Far out. I never heard of Aquapel before, but now I have. Mr. Google informs me it’s sold everywhere.
tybee
@dance around in your bones:
yeah but cats don’t protect anything. dogs will defend the pack.
Betty Cracker
@debbie: I’d take them back.
Morzer
@Betty Cracker:
From what I’ve seen, her mom is no slouch in the intellect department either.
Jay C
Excellent sculpture, Betty! (even if the head looks more like The Flash than The Thinker) – what did you make it out of??
Morzer
@tybee:
Actually, you are wrong about cats. They will defend children on occasion.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/may/15/cat-saves-boy-from-dog-attack-video
tybee
@Tree With Water:
rain-X also makes windshield wiper blades. annoying at intermittent speeds due to the scraping noises. sounds like the blades are shot even if they’re new.
but they are the shiznit in a toad strangler.
tybee
@Morzer:
so you have one cat. one. and just about every dog. :)
dance around in your bones
@tybee: True.
But they make a hell of a lot of noise while protecting the pack, even when it’s not really necessary. I just love the independence of cats – all of mine have been indoor/outdoor cats (so no stinky litter box) and I’ve only lost two of the at least 10 I had in Baja.
YMMV..
Morzer
@tybee:
I’ve seen cats stand up to a surprising variety of critters on occasion. Sure, they are very sensible creatures that don’t get into unnecessary fights, but they will fight for something that matters to them. I think we hairless apes could learn something from them.
Betty Cracker
@Jay C: Sculpey. Kid got it at a craft store. Wine foil is my usual medium.
Howard Beale IV
@Tree With Water: Aquapel is made by PPG-so they know something about making a long-lasting sealant for glass.
JPL
@Betty Cracker: What football game? Just curious because there are several games on that are sorta crappy. just sayin
debbie
@Betty Cracker:
Thanks. I wasn’t sure if I was being overly paranoid.
Howard Beale IV
@tybee: Feh. When it comes to wiper blades, it’s Bosch Icon all the way. As a crazed holy man once said-you get what you pay for.
Steeplejack
@Betty Cracker:
You made that out of kosher salt and olive oil?! I’m impressed.
J R in WV
Well, Marshall U won, beat Rice 41-14, records were broken. All is good in SW West Virginia.
I was doomed to run around on a couple of errands, stopped at The Grill for a very late lunch and they had the game on TV, so I got to watch maybe 1.7 quarters, listened to the rest on the radio.
Go Herd! We Are Marshall!
The anniversary of the plane crash that wiped out much of the MU football team, coaches, reporters, etc was yesterday. The players all had “75” on their helmets, that being how many people died back in 1970 when the plane crashed on approach to Tri-State Airport.
Betty Cracker
@JPL: I’m watching Miss State and Bama. It was interesting, but now it looks like Bama is gonna win in a walk. Boo!
UGA-Auburn is coming up, though, and LSU-Hawgs. Also FSU and Miami–may both lose!
gogol's wife
@Morzer:
I had two cats who scared off a burglar.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Morzer: Suck up.
Morzer
@BillinGlendaleCA:
That was really brutal, man. You almost harshed my mellow for a moment. Time for a first cup of damn fine coffee, brewed to my secret recipe by a master sommelier.
NotMax
Not too shabby for a quickie. Only major design difference is that in the original the right wrist is bent so that the chin rests on the back of the fingers.
Tree With Water
@gogol’s wife: You’re very gullible. It’s the oldest cat trick in the book. Cat (or cats) tells owner it scared a thief away to make itself look good. And you fell for it.
Roger Moore
@Howard Beale IV:
Perhaps some purebred cats have bad hereditary traits, but purebred cats are much less common than purebred dogs, so that isn’t important for the cats that most people will actually have. And cat’s may shed, but they mostly groom themselves, so there’s little need for human grooming intervention. Cole’s ass shaving is by far the exception to the rule.
Steeplejack
@Amir Khalid:
I saw that. Hilarious! Like a “Where’s Waldo?” thing.
Howard Beale IV
@Morzer: I graduated when I was 16. Youngest in my class. Didn’t have my drivers license, either-but I could program BASIC, FORTRAN and COBOL.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
Getting ready to get on the plane to return home from vacation. It wasn’t in our top 10 best vacations (did I mention that Aunt Flo decided to show up on Thursday of our romantic Hawaiian vacation?) but it’s pretty hard to have an outright bad vacation in Kauai.
JPL
Gotta say, FSU could move up to second. fkfkfkfkfkfkfkfkfkfkfkfkfk
BillinGlendaleCA
@Morzer: It was low hanging fruit, comrade. I couldn’t resist, enjoy your coffee(gave up that stuff 25 years ago).
Howard Beale IV
@Roger Moore:
What? Cole was shaving his ass?
And unfortunately, humans do have to deal with catss self-grooming – it’s called the hairball, which routinely gets deposited onto floors, carpets, chairs, etc, etc…..
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
And that’s a wrap. ROLL TIDE!
Morzer
@Howard Beale IV:
He’s planning to take on Kim Kardashian and see if he can break the internet. Next Sunday, IIRC.
Roger Moore
@tybee:
Not true at all. They may not be big enough to protect us from the same kinds of things that dogs do, but they do a lot. Cat’s protect us- and our food- from rodents. Historically, that’s been the main reason for keeping them, and it’s a very good one. They incidentally help to protect us from all kinds of nasty diseases spread by those rodents and their arthropod parasites.
Howard Beale IV
@Morzer: You sure you got the right link?
Steeplejack
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
Do you mean Aunt Flo showed up and wanted to camp out for free in your room? If so, that’s brassy!
dance around in your bones
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant):
Tide comes in, Tide goes out….Why is the moon there?
The Wisdom of Bill O’Reilly…….derp.
Morzer
@Howard Beale IV:
I meant to reply to your talk of COBOL and Fortran, before being distracted (understandably, IMHO) by the vision of the ass-shaving Cole. Plus, my father-in-law has just turned up claiming to have a problem with his laptop. Except that, to my puzzled eye, the problem doesn’t exist.
I was going to ask which programming languages you prefer these days.
Tree With Water
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): A piece of advice I once heard from a frequent traveler to the islands is to open your luggage outdoors when you return home. This is to shake out any funky insects that might have hitchhiked and who will be looking for a new home.
Howard Beale IV
@Morzer: I make a living with mostly mainframe assembler and some COBOL and REXX. The latest IBM Principles of Operation manual is almost 1500 pages. A few years ago I trans-coded some C# into assembler and COBOL-it was a good thing I took a Java course; C# and Java were close enough that I was able to walk the C# code and come up with a solution that didn’t require some half-assed kluge that required us to communicate with a Windows server.
Today’s IBM zArchitecture is light-years ahead of what the old System/370 was. We now have a 64-bit address space, single opcode support for null-terminated string manipulation, character-set translation, IEEE-754 support, compression, encryption, hashing, and the latest hardware release moves Java support into silicon. Ironically enough, IBM has been making more sales of the mainframe as Linux boxes as they are not kneecapped compared to z/OS – but what’s troubling is that they had to pay GlobalFoundaries a cool $1 billion to take the chip plants that make chips that go into the mainframes off their hands-and that also includes some of the intellectual properties.
When you combine this move, along with the retirement of a large segment of mainframe knowledge withing the workforce both within the ISV and in the Fortune 1000, and with new CIO’s coming on board who don’t know what the fsck a mainframe is, my question has to be – who will jump first to get off a platform that, while its solid as hell, doesn’t seem to have anybody in the pipeline to take over for the folks when they start retiring/dying off.
sparrow
Way down on a long open thread, BUT, I need BJ advice!
My dear bf is a green-card holder (I’m an American citizen). I am planning to go protest on black friday with the striking workers at the local walmart. He really wants to go, but always gets nervous about his non-citizen status with any kind of leftist protesting. He had a prior bad experience after protesting the Iraq war in DC — he remembers the cameras on the tops of buildings — after that, he got pulled aside for a “special search” on every air trip, anywhere, and his bag disappeared so many times he started doing only carry-on. (This only stopped recently — guess they finally got tired of finding nothing).
Anyway, is there any risk in protesting for green-card holders? Should he stay home? I honestly have no idea, and what I have read on the web seems kinda conflicting.
Morzer
@Howard Beale IV:
I haven’t done anything with COBOL (different generations and all that) but I have heard that there’s still a lot of legacy code out there and good livings can be made from patching it up for the next decade or so. I’ve thought of teaching myself some COBOL just to see how it all hangs together, but somehow never quite found the right block of time to sit down with it. Maybe now that things are shaking down here in Korea I might take up that project again. Any advice gratefully received!
Howard Beale IV
@sparrow: If his boarding passes have ‘SSSS; on them, he’s been targeted, and he should stay away form any event.
Omnes Omnibus
@sparrow: Is your bf considering applying for citizenship at any point? If so, any “trouble” on his record could have an effect on that process. If you are concerned about him losing his green card, that is rather unlikely. Only convictions for offenses involving “moral turpitude” can result in someone losing a green card. Generally, the kinds of things one could be arrested at a protest (disorderly conduct, assault, resisting arrest, etc.) are not crimes of moral turpitude.*
*Note: This is general info about the law. It is not legal advice.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@dance around in your bones:
HA!
Howard Beale IV
@Morzer: The latest IBM Enterprise COBOL compiler (v5) finally exploits the zEnterprise hardware to the point where CPU reductions of up to 25% have been reported. As long as you understand that POINTER is a real address you you can pretty much have a field day. IBM COBOL does have some Object Oriented support, but I haven’t seen anyone exploit it; mostly it’s for interfacing with Java apps in CICS. If you are in a CICS environment, don’t EXEC CICS LINK to a program unless you are DPL’ing, just do a regular COBOL CALL-doing a EXEC CICS LINK spins up a new LE enclave and wastes resources.
Another little ugliness of the new v5 compiler-you have to use PDSE’s instead of PDS’s, which causes all sorts of chaos with shared DASD support.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
What does count as “moral turpitude”? What would stop someone from gaining citizenship under that rubric?
Morzer
@Howard Beale IV:
That sounds pretty interesting to me. I am going to be very much an innocent wandering through the COBOL woods, but you’ve certainly made me think about exploring them in the much more immediate future.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: Moral turpitude is what could cause someone to have a green card revoked. Fraud or child molestation are examples that come to mind. It is kind of a fuzzy concept. Different states set the bar differently, so I hesitate to go much further than that.
ETA: Any involvement with the courts could have an effect (however small) on a citizenship application.
Howard Beale IV
@Morzer: If you need to pass an COBOL/IBM proficiency test, I can probably get you through that without too much grief. I’ve been doing COBOL close to 40 years alone.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@sparrow: Is your state an employment at will state? If I were worried about consequences of legal protests, I’d be more worried about retaliation by an employer than the federal government.
My $0.02. (IANAL)
Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
Another Holocene Human
@sparrow: protesting walmart is usually way lower key than protesting war
stick to a suburban protest and don’t do anything stupid where the dipshit manager even calls the local po-po. the feds don’t give a rank shit about walmart protests
usually people protest outside, manager tells them to go further and further from entrance until you’re on the sidewalk with signs and noisemakers
like don’t go into the building and beg them to arrest you and I can pretty much guarantee not crossing paths with law enforcement at all. mileage may vary if you have some core group that’s been protesting all day provoking confrontations. check the organizing websites see what looks like the lamest protest of them all and least likely to attract ex employees or currents. Walmart really gets riled up when ex and current employees show up in their stores to protest. They don’t give a fuck about members of the public outside with stupid signs.
Another Holocene Human
@Omnes Omnibus: I’ve been to a lot of protests. This isn’t a citizen’s picket line in Oakland by the docks. Getting arrested at a retailer protest generally takes some determined and persistent confrontational behavior. The powers that be treat you like a bunch of stupid dorks engaging in meaningless acting out as long as you heed their demands to push ever further from the front entrance….
ETA: Not legal advice, just opining on the likelihood of running into police issues. The shittier the turnout the less likely you’ll run into press or social media problems either. Your friend may want to avoid getting photographed. Don’t worry about walmart’s cameras because corporate does not give a fuck. (Unless some dumbshits start damaging property, if that happens run away. Leave fast. Very unlikely to happen because those kinds of arseholes usually don’t show up unless there’s a general strike/protest.)
redshirt
Betty Cracker! You are awesome.
Omnes Omnibus
@Another Holocene Human: I was making worst case assumptions.
Another Holocene Human
@Morzer: Always figured that was code for teh ghey or teh unmarried heterosexuals.
See, it’s “moral” but not “criminal” so, um … we’re down to cats and dogs living together.
redshirt
@efgoldman: Dude? It’s obvious.
Omnes Omnibus
@Another Holocene Human: In this context, it would require a felony criminal conviction for an offense that involves moral turpitude.
Another Holocene Human
@Omnes Omnibus: I know. I think I’m not expressing myself well right now.
It occurs to me that getting arrested at a protest could mean different things in different states and circumstances, mostly circumstances, see: occupy. Occupy in my city never drew much in the way of arrests but my brother was arrested in Boston (got bailed out). I did a lot of protests in Boston back in the day and you had to basically chose to be arrested if arresting was going on. My understanding of what happened in NYC was that cops were pulling all kinds of Daley ’72 tactics, like when they arrested customers in a bank and lied about it, or started attacking people and lied about it, or corralled protesters and lied about it.
Again, chances of getting arrested protesting Walmart without deliberately setting out to get arrested are pretty remote. (Some ex employees got arrested the other day but they were running an escalation campaign for hours going from store to store and finally Walmart and the cops took the bait, not that the cops weren’t being shitty, but it’s not like the protestors just showed up outside with the green shirts and it was pepper spray time.)
Another Holocene Human
@Omnes Omnibus: Oh, you mean the bar is set higher than “it embarrasses the powers that be”? Gosh, what is this world outside of Florida employment law that you speak of? Sounds like utopia….
eta: I’m a union steward, not a lawyer, in case that was unclear to anyone
Jim, Foolish Literalist
“moral turpitude” is fun to say. Turpitude sounds like is should be a good thing. Like a tasty dessert.
Intellectual turpitude is Chuck Todd writing an entire book (or book-like product, as Pierce will probably say) based on the idea that all our gridlock is caused by Obama’s aloofitude and arrogance
Last week, John Boehner responded to a question about his personal relationship with Obama by saying something like, ‘it’s not my job to get along with him”. Remember how Chuck Todd and Bob Woodward and Parson Meacham took to their fainting couches and rang for the smelling salts? Me neither. Also, too, this is one case where I absolutely agree with Boehner.
Cervantes
@Morzer:
If you scour the (federal) record, you will find such definitions as
Does this apply to murder? You would think so. But does it apply to shop-lifting? I won’t say the term is unconstrained but application really can depend on — among other things — the political climate as well as the prejudices of the specific federal official one is dealing with.
Cervantes
@Another Holocene Human:
At one point, maybe, but not nowadays sufficient.
I mean in the context of immigration law.
redshirt
“Moral Turpentine” is my band name of the day.
Howard Beale IV
@efgoldman:
Cleek’s Pie Filter.
Use it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Cervantes:
I would say that is correct.
Omnes Omnibus
@Howard Beale IV: Your snarkometer. Adjust it.
Howard Beale IV
@Omnes Omnibus: What’s a snarkometer?
Omnes Omnibus
@Howard Beale IV: My comment was meant to suggest that you had missed the fact that the commenter you told to pie you was making a joke. Not only that, it was a joke at his own expense regarding his own lack of technical knowledge.
ETA: A snarkometer is an imaginary device that measures the degree to which a remark is tongue in cheek or jocular.
sparrow
@Howard Beale IV: @Omnes Omnibus: @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: @Another Holocene Human: Thanks everyone! Very helpful replies. I’m kind of new to protesting. The boyfriend is from Greece where protesting is more of a way of life, heh. I think we will go for a while and just hold our signs and be chill. If anything happens we’ll check out early.
Howard Beale IV
@Omnes Omnibus: Noted-but warily.
sparrow
boo, why am I moderated? to many @replies?
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: You’re not helping.
Howard Beale IV
@Omnes Omnibus: Uh, whoops.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@efgoldman: Mine’s in the upper right – is that the wrong placement?
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Then you are doing very well; have you considered turning pro?
Cervantes
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
No, he’s a Mac user.
Omnes Omnibus
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Maybe it’s like instrumentation in a car; it goes where the designers put it. Just because it is imaginary doesn’t mean there isn’t a place for it.
Cervantes
@Howard Beale IV:
Eternal vigilance is best!
Well, that and Naomichi Yasuda’s sushi.
And Glenn Gould playing the Goldberg Variations.
And a good cup of tea.
But definitely eternal vigilance.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
They have a virtual one now, as well as the real, living one?
The clever things those kids can do with mirrors!
tybee
@Morzer:
i would bet serious money that in the years right before 2038 that COBOL will suddenly produce serious money, just like it did in 98.
Morzer
@tybee:
I shall have to get my nieces and nephews to study up for the big payday!
tybee
@Morzer:
yeah, i plan to notify the grand chirrens about the fabulous, money making opportunities that COBOL will provide them in their middle age.
John Weiss
@tybee: Looks like one of the ‘timber’ bamboos to me. Probably one of those tropical types.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@sparrow: You only get 3 links (including @s) in a reply. Unfortunately.
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
Howard Beale IV
@tybee: You’d guess wrong. COBOL dates are stored in BCD, not binary. Unix C-coded apps will be in the shitter come 2038.
Omnes Omnibus
@Howard Beale IV: Snarkometer, dude.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@tybee: Deep Thought no doubt will be programmed in COBOL.
Cheers,
Scott.
Howard Beale IV
@Omnes Omnibus: No snarkometer adjustment here, just cold hard reality. Unix epochs are stored in binary, COBOL epochs have been stored in Binary Coded Decimal.
Those of you who think you know what you are talking about annoy those of us who do.
IOW, STFU.
Omnes Omnibus
@Howard Beale IV: People are joking about it. If you don’t realize that a large number of comments on this site are facetious/snarky/just plain silly, you are going to spend an awful lot of time thinking some smart people are stupid and failing to notice the actual stupid people. If you don’t have a sense of humor that is fine, but you need to accept that others do.
ETA: This was my last attempt at offering friendly advice on this topic. If you aren’t receptive, that’s okay but you’ll probably come off as humorless and ragey to a lot of people in the future.
Howard Beale IV
@Omnes Omnibus: You can start by quit making an ass of yourself.
Omnes Omnibus
@Howard Beale IV: Okay, humorless and ragey it is.
Howard Beale IV
@Omnes Omnibus: If that’s the way you want to interpret it then that’s your problem. Others may not want to see it that way.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Howard Beale IV: Telling people to STFU isn’t a way to come across as non-ragey.
Just my humble opinion.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Omnes Omnibus
@Howard Beale IV: Dude, you aren’t familiar enough with internet traditions to know what a fucking snarkometer is or what a suggestion that one adjust it means. Because of that basic lack, you have raged at a couple of people on this thread. I tried to offer a couple of friendly hints. You blew up. I apologize for tying to be helpful. You can fuck your chickens in the future without me doing anything but pitying the chicken.
tybee
CHICKEN?!
and, as was earlier said: just say ‘Nole.
Howard Beale IV
@Omnes Omnibus: I’ve been using the Internet long before it became “a thing” and even before there was a web browser,
OTOH, what I fond rather amusing was the content-free comments that was inserted into the thread that added no value, outside of showing their own stupidity/ignorance.
Omnes Omnibus
@Howard Beale IV: That may all be true, but no one cares. You completely miss every joke that people make. You are missing humor.
I suggest that you do not interact with the world the way that others do. Not a criticism. Rather, an observation.
Omnes Omnibus
@Howard Beale IV: That may all be true, but no one cares. You completely miss every joke that people make. You are missing humor.
I suggest that you do not interact with the world the way that others do. Not a criticism. Rather, an observation.
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus: Why moderation?
Cervantes
@Omnes Omnibus:
It’s a new version of WordPress™ that did not like the ambiguity in your use of “suggest”?
Anyhow, I think the moral of your story here is that old stand-by: no good deed goes unpunished.
Cervantes
@Howard Beale IV:
And people say you have no sense of humor.
Little do they know!
redshirt
Humor? I’ll have to analyze this phenomena.