New Peter Gabriel ballad (song proper starts around the 3-minute mark) via Rolling Stone:
Gabriel’s Back to Front Tour set lists have wavered little since the singer launched the long trek back in September 2012, but as the jaunt finally begins to wind down, Gabriel decided to replace “O But,” another original he debuted this trek, with “What Lies Ahead.” It wasn’t a one-time performance either as the new song again opened Gabriel’s next concert the following night in Bologna, Italy.
… Rolling Stone recently spoke to Gabriel about the 25th anniversary of his Real World record label, and the singer discussed his long-gestating I/O album and the type of music he’s been working on in recent years…
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As we (well, many of us) prep for the upcoming holiday, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
Corner Stone
Meatballs.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
Starting one of the most difficult weeks of my career tomorrow.
Venture capitalists suck.
skerry
lo mein
Corner Stone
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): Commie pig.
JPL
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): I’m sorry.
this is good news for mitt.
Baud
Finally getting a new car this week. Prius c hybrid. Looking forward to the new wheels.
raven
I made red beans and rice while the storm raged outside. Looks like it is going to clear but the winds speeds may make going out on a boat pretty rough. We met the author of “The Rise and Decline of the Redneck Riviera” for coffee and it was great!
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Corner Stone: Fascist dog.
raven
@Baud:
all my friends
are low riders. . .
Suzanne
I made a sour cream coffeecake, and I just took it out of the oven. My house smells amazing. Going to have barbecue chicken for dinner, then take the dog to the dog park.
Baud
@raven:
Have you been in one? It is a little low. But I like small cars for city driving. And I hate getting gas, so I’m looking forward to doing that less. Plus my current car is on it’s last legs.
Corner Stone
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): At least I do not stand in the way of the free market! What kind of true American Patriot can one be if they deny the inherent morality and truth of the freedom loving job creators?
raven
@Baud: Nah, I’m sure they are cool. Our 2003 accord is hard enough to get in and out of.
Mustang Bobby
@Baud: Have fun with it.
Here at Chez BBWW, I’m caught up on the TiVo except for an episode of “Sherlock” which I’m saving for the time off at the end of the week. Dinner was salad and cold fried chicken with a handful of Snickers minis for dessert.
I’m also breaking in my new wireless keyboard and mouse. The old mouse’s wheel got gummed up and it turns out you can’t just replace the mouse without getting a new keyboard as well unless you have unlimited USB ports. Enh; $30 at Best Buy.
Baud
@raven:
Did it start off great and then sort of get worse toward the end?
Another Holocene Human
Today, Ready for Hilary made me laugh so I guess it’s not good for nothing.
the Hilary people think they can win AR, IN, and MO, fah fah
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/11/17/the-ridiculousness-of-hillary-clintons-expand-the-map-strategy-in-2016/?tid=gravity_1.0_strip_3
Delusion! It’s what for dinner! Suck it, libs!
I am very tempted to BOOKMARK IT!
It’s laugh or cry, really.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Is there a dead intern in the local congresscritter’s office at the end?
raven
@Baud: He is a crusty recently retired history prof. His grandmother bought the house he is lives in in the early 50’s when there were nothing but sand packed roads here. His knowledge of the history from Mobile to Panama City is great.
Baud
@raven:
Very cool.
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Isn’t there always?
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@JPL: Thanks. I was “lucky”, still in place but “playing out of position” so to speak. I cannot say more except that I am extremely angry. Anything else would be unsuitable even for this blog.
Corner Stone
@raven:
Jeebus cristo. For you to call someone a crusty old cracker the dude must be a real treat.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: We spent about a month down there 50 years ago(last month) when my dad had a temporary assignment at Elgin. Being that I was 4(almost 5), I have little memory of the area.
raven
@Baud: Yea I wasn’t sure what to expect. I guess writing to someone and telling them you enjoyed their book is a good approach.
Baud
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant):
I can’t even imagine what you’d have to skull fuck to be able to say such a thing.
Corner Stone
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): This blog skull fucks kittens. Let it out, friend.
And out outraged by *that much*.
SarahT
So-so wine, Burmese leftovers, and “Getting On”
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: There’s good news however, you get to bloviate on the TV machine for three hours a day afterwards.
Mike E
The penultimate episode of season 5 of The Walking Dead is playing at the movie theater across the street, so I’ll brave the zombie apocalypse once again with 100 of my closest strangers.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Corner Stone: I know (?) you’re snarking, but probably not the best time…
Corner Stone
Does anyone but me believe LeBron James actually drives a Kia?
SarahT
Also, this baby Pygmy Marmoset:
http://youtu.be/g6ZM2Q-D0b8
Baud
@raven:
You strike me as very sociable.
Nicole
Putting the wee one to bed and then watching The Walking Dead. Which has not sucked much this season. I am astounded.
Corner Stone
@SarahT: “Getting On” or “Getting It On” ?
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: You might enjoy the book. This area was essentially lawless in those days. Ft Walton Beach had a de-facto legal casino and the place was wild.
Here’s his article about mullet.
Corner Stone
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): Maybe. But if you didn’t want to talk about it then why did you mention it on a public blog?
As I said at #25, let it out, friend. Or whatever.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Enjoy the new ride. We were thinking of the Prius when my wife got her last new car. We couldn’t justify the added expense, so ended up getting the Elantra.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
I’m sitting here trying to figure out the best way forward on the novel. Schlemezal dropped a brand new idea on me this afternoon that I’m struggling not to explore. Really disruptive, potential problems with publication since it could mean doing it as two separate books, but if it came off, it could be fantastic.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I used to have Hyundai. I like them. Really wanted a hybrid this time. Actually, I wanted a pure electric, but they are still pretty expensive.
ETA: And the prius c is a smaller, cheaper version of the prius, so it’s a little more reasonable in price.
raven
@Baud: Ha, I guess! It is funny when a guy is from here asks you where to get bait!
max
Made linguine with Coachman’s sauce, which used up all the homegrown regular basil, all of the remaining homegrown tomatoes and most of the homegrown oregano still alive outside. The Wizard of Oz just started on TBS.
max
[‘Mentally preparing for ‘Oh, God, not turkey again’ later this week.’]
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Only things I remember is how white the sand was, the bridge from Ft. Walton Beach to Destin and my mom attempting to drive my dad’s manual transmission VW bug.
Mnemosyne
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):
Dude. It’s not “two separate books” — it’s “already-completed sequel.” Hello!
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: The beach from Walton to Destin is still strictly Air Force. I’ve been coming here for 30 years and the development is out of control but not a surprise. I wouldn’t come near here during the summer but this is our 8th Thanksgiving. I am disappointed in the fishing charter situation. Anything of any size is now out of season and the rates have gone up. $220 for an eight hour and no Amberjacks or Red Snapper.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Corner Stone: Point taken. I’m just having thoughts that are…unpleasant. No actual words, nothing coherent anyway. Just want to scream. Perhaps you are right and I shouldn’t have brought this here.
BR
@Another Holocene Human:
I’m getting worried that we don’t have a viable contender to challenge her yet… She’s running the same sort of campaign as last time, and I don’t think she’s improved as a candidate either.
If wishing made it so, it would be great to have a 50 year old Bernie Sanders. I wonder if anyone will assume that role and take her on.
dmsilev
My dad has apparently discovered the emoji keyboard on his iPad. I got an email from him which consisted of about a sentence of text followed by 11 apparently-random emojis. Am I supposed to decode the rebus or something?
raven
@BR: That asshole Webb is making noise.
Mnemosyne
Getting ready to set our Christmas tree up tonight. Yes, yes, it’s “too early” for most people, but Thanksgiving kicks off G’s busiest time of year, unfortunately. He generally has to work all of the weekends between Thanksgiving and New Year’s and usually only gets Christmas Day and New Year’s Day off. If he’s lucky.
We watched Remember the Night yesterday as our first holiday movie of the season. It was okay. I think I may have to be in the right mood for Sturges and be braced ahead of time for the embarrassing racial stereotypes he puts on display because, man, they’re fucking embarrassing these days.
JPL
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): What? I thought this was the site where one could bitch.
Baud
@dmsilev:
?????????????♊♐♒♉♓
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@Mnemosyne: There is that. The thing is, if I’m self-publishing, it means going out on a limb and hoping that the first one sells enough copies that it funds the second one ever seeing print. Or that the Kickstarter is ridiculously successful beyond my wildest dreams.
Basically, the problem with the second half of the story as it stands now is that the protagonist/narrator is really passive and doesn’t grow. I have some ideas to change that but, regardless, the biggest changes over the second half are experienced by Caitlyn, one of the other main characters.
So, his idea was to have the second half narrated by Caitlyn rather than Phoebe. And now I’m wondering whether that would work, whether, if I tried it I should put the break between the two parts somewhere else, what that would do to the length of the thing, and whether all of the above would work better in two volumes than one.
I’m intrigued by having a single book, all told in first person, but where who that person is changes halfway through. And I’m looking at the difficulties of voice. It’s easy for me to capture the right voice for Phoebe because she’s extremely analytical, like I am. On the other hand, I’m not sure I can do the narrative voice of a more typical 20-year old woman.
mai naem mobile
@raven: yes,because Hillary really.needs a challenge from the right of the party. Good lord,bring on Al Franken already.
Corner Stone
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): Of course you should have. There are any number of people here who can listen and possibly help you move through this in a positive way. Or just listen and etc.
To be clear, I will not be one of them. But this is the place for that kind of thing, it seems.
Steeplejack
@raven:
When I lived in Mobile (’70s) and then later in Atlanta (until 2005) the Florida panhandle was my beach destination of choice. Used to stay at a little place next to a state park on Perdido Key, just west of Pensacola, then later at various places on St. George Island. I haven’t been down there in 10 years, but even before that the whole coast was being developed rapidly.
Elizabelle
Eating a cheese sandwich on my fave bread from Trader Joe’s (Tuscan Pane, not expensive and toothsome) and sipping a glass of Malbec.
Thinking of tucking into newest Michael Connelly Harry Bosch mystery found at the library yesterday. Just published.
Listened lightly to 60 Minutes with its “When is Washington going to solve our infrastructure problems?” and I do not think they called the Tea Party aka Republicans out by name. Le sigh.
Another Holocene Human
@Suzanne: sour cream coffeecake is amazing
raven
@Steeplejack: They have still managed to keep St George pretty much like it was.
mai naem mobile
@Baud: i was a crying chickenhawk pig in love with a playboy bunny in French Vietnam. Thats what i got out the emojis.
Howard Beale IV
@Baud: Do you live in a state with a real winter?
Steeplejack
@Mnemosyne:
That’s a weird but good movie. MacMurray and Stanwyck were always an odd but very strong pairing.
ETA: I saw a small Christmas tree in a neighbor’s window a few days ago. First one this year.
FlipYrWhig
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Dude, it doesn’t have to be perfect, it has to be done. Don’t overcomplicate things. You can write other books. (I’m not a creative writer but had to write a book for career reasons. Just lock it down and move on to the next project.)
skerry
@mai naem mobile: Franken is 10 years older than Obama. Isn’t there someone in their 50s?
Corner Stone
@FlipYrWhig:
Oh, boy.
Iowa Old Lady
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): That sounds really intriguing to write. What you need is a patron like a Medici or something.
Our TV quit, so Mr IOL went out and bought a new one, which is fine. The innards of the old one are strewn around the living room because he says he’s going to fix it and sell it. That part is not so fine.
Corner Stone
@skerry:
I nominate one Omnes Omnibus!
Corner Stone
@Iowa Old Lady: A TV has innards?
This will not end well.
FlipYrWhig
Hey, remember when Robert Griffin III and Colin Kaepernick were fun players to watch? When was that, like 10 years ago?
Baud
@mai naem mobile:
That has a nice cadence. If I had talent, I’d make it into a song.
@Howard Beale IV:
Anything below 60 degrees is a real winter to me.
Pogonip
@SarahT: You ate a BURMESE? I hope it was a brown cat…
Corner Stone
@FlipYrWhig: More like a few days before never.
RG Cheese has no business being on an NFL roster. None. Period.
Scampernick has some kind of mental block going but he actually has some physical talent. I don’t care for his style of game, but he can actually play.
RG Cheese can simply not play at the NFL level. And no one, NO ONE, should allow him to get in front of a microphone.
Another Holocene Human
@Mnemosyne:
Bujold’s debut? novel Shards of Honor was 1/2 of her first novel, finally published all together years later.
Howard Beale IV
@Corner Stone: Today’s TV are gutless wonders. Bring back the old RCA CTC’s, like the CTC-35 –and when color picture tubes held 25 FUCKING KILOVOLTS in ’em
Another Holocene Human
@Pogonip: Wish somebody would make prey of those pythons….
Tommy
@Iowa Old Lady: You said Medici.
Another Holocene Human
@Elizabelle: Tuscan Pane? Is this the German attempt at some sort of joke? A yolk? Yuck yuck?
rikyrah
can’t believe this isn’t a photograph
…………………….
18-year-old artist draws amazing hyperrealistic portrait of Morgan Freeman
Jack Ede spent 137 hours over two weeks sketching actor’s face
Dylan Stableford
By Dylan Stableford November 21, 2014 11:43 AM Yahoo News
http://news.yahoo.com/morgan-freeman-hyperrealistic-sketch-drawing-164346869.html
srv
Well, I see Johnny Worricker didn’t waterboard Ralph Fiennes and sold out.
It’s the Beeb that makes me so cynical.
@Howard Beale IV: If Whole Foods sold Sovteks instead of vinyl, I might go there.
Also, too, that SNL School House Rocks was pretty funny.
Pogonip
@Another Holocene Human: I’m getting worried because some guy whose family name was U disappeared recently…
Iowa Old Lady
@Corner Stone: @Howard Beale IV: There’s a circuit board and wiring. What he intends to do, I have no idea.
JPL
I missed out on the turkey blog earlier, so since this is an open thread, I’ll ask here. Is T.J’s better than Whole Foods for the turkey? I noticed several comments about trader joe’s but not Whole Foods. I normally buy antibiotic free from Whole Foods. Tuesday I have to pick up a turkey from a local farmer for my son that he bought for the s.o’s mother. Something seems wrong with that, but I’m not sure what. haha
dedc79
Odell Beckham Jr. just had a catch for the ages in the Giants-Cowboys game. It’s been a lousy season for Giants fans but Beckham is a reason to feel good about the future.
Corner Stone
@dedc79: That was nuts.
His throwing the DB away from his body with one hand right before the catch was pretty special too.
Does that dude also bend horseshoes with one hand or some shit?
Howard Beale IV
@Baud: Piker. My Gen II Prius takes a 6 MPG hit during the winter.
Then again, I telecommute, so I really can’t complain all that much, and it’s also paid off, too.
skerry
@Corner Stone: I thought someone said he wouldn’t last an hour in DC. Or was that someone else?
JPL
@rikyrah: That is amazing.
Elmo
I’m sitting in the Honolulu airport waiting for my flight home, and wondering what Stephen King- level horror has caused the islands to adopt “Don Ho style soft pop” as their preferred musack EVERYWHERE. It almost makes visiting the place not worth it.
Guys, there is a rich musical tradition here, with DRUMS. WHY ARE YOU CROONING??
Corner Stone
@Iowa Old Lady: He hasn’t mentioned anything about teaching a machine to play chess, has he?
Baud
@Howard Beale IV:
Even with the hit, that’s still better than most gas cars.
Howard Beale IV
@srv: I got 3 12AX7 Mullards in my Dared DV-6C hybrid 5.1 channel Amp. Now I even found some Telefunkens…..
Howard Beale IV
@Iowa Old Lady: Did it just totally quit? No sound? No backlight?
dmsilev
@Baud: Here’s what he “wrote”: ???????????
Corner Stone
@skerry: eemom said she’d have his back. Pardon my French, but that is one bloodthirsty ass old lady.
I think he’d be good with her in a pair of sunglasses and Doc Martens.
Tommy
@Howard Beale IV: I got a 2001 VW Passat. Has less than 30,000 miles on it. Ponder that for a few.
mai naem mobile
@skerry: no there isnt. The Dems have done a really shitty job of the farm team. I blame the Clinton machine partly for this. I really think Al Franken could pull it off if he wants it of course.
tybee
@raven:
ah, not really. we used to get off the ferry and go straight to the beach and camp anywhere. shortly after the first bridge was built, that all changed.
Howard Beale IV
@Baud: Of course, time for the obligatory link referral if you haven’t already found it yet: http://www.priuschat.com
srv
@Howard Beale IV: 5.1 with tubes? That’s like Jesus on QVC.
If I didn’t have a Class A SS, and could afford vinyl, I’d build one of those tube kits.
Baud
@dmsilev:
I think he cut you out of his will. Sorry, dmsilev.
Howard Beale IV
@Tommy: Petrol or diesel?
Elizabelle
@Another Holocene Human:
TJ’s Tuscan Pane. Has to be kept in the fridge — no preservatives.
Pane, like “Pain” — French for bread, this one is Italian for bread. (German is Brot, maybe? How appetizing sounding.)
Anyway, it’s delish. I crave it with butter; have started eating a slice with coffee in the morning. Will occasionally have a slice for dessert. Think I crave the texture.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@FlipYrWhig: One way or another, the second half needs a major overhaul. It just doesn’t work as it is. I understand not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good and that something needs to get done but that’s not really the situation I’m looking at right now. The protagonist has to be active and grow for a story to work. After enough people, include the person I’m paying to edit it, tell me that the second half really drags, I know it needs work.
So I’m spending 24-48 hours kicking around the various ideas for how I’m going to do that. In the end, I’m most likely to go with keeping the structure pretty much as it is and just changing a lot of the plot elements to make Phoebe more active. But in the meantime I’m contemplating alternatives.
Iowa Old Lady
@Howard Beale IV: There was sound but, according to Mr IOL, the “red light” was out and then he “plugged another power supply” in and the “green light went out too.” So…gibber, gibber.
dmsilev
@Baud: So _that’s_ what the horse’s head meant.
Bummer.
Baud
@Howard Beale IV:
I wasn’t aware of that site. Thanks. Do they enjoy snarky comments like Juicers do?
dmsilev
@Iowa Old Lady: Sounds like he let the magic smoke out.
(Electronic components work because they contain a small amount of magic smoke inside each chip. If you see a puff of smoke coming out of a chip, it means that the magic has escaped and the chip won’t work anymore)
Tommy
@Howard Beale IV: Gas.
FlipYrWhig
@mai naem mobile: I like what I’ve seen of Chris Murphy from CT. Don’t know if he has any rep to speak of, though.
srv
@Howard Beale IV @Baud: There’s a Prius in Haight with the license plate SMUG
Iowa Old Lady
@Corner Stone: Mr IOL plays bridge, and he used to build computers for fun, though he’s done that less lately because people want laptops. But he hasn’t mentioned combining those. So far.
skerry
@mai naem mobile: I’ll take Franken over the rest of the crowd. If Republicans can elect an actor, we can have a comedian. He’s intelligent and liberal.
Steeplejack
@raven:
Yeah, I seem to remember they had some pretty strict zoning regs.
Iowa Old Lady
@dmsilev: That’s what I thought.
skerry
@Tommy: You never go anywhere?
mai naem mobile
@Elmo: duh, muzak makes you want to spend money. Always follow the money.
Corner Stone
@Iowa Old Lady: If he tries teaching one how to play a nice game of Thermo Nuclear War…uh…please call someone?
I don’t have a problem with teaching one to play Bridge as that’s all about who can cheat the best without getting caught.
Howard Beale IV
@srv:
FlipYrWhig
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Fair enough. Just remember that there can be other books!
Steeplejack
@dedc79, @Corner Stone:
Not to take anything away from that phenomenal catch, but it reminds me that I’ve been wondering for several years now: how “sticky” are the receivers’ gloves? Can’t remember the last time I saw a receiver playing without gloves, even in warm weather. Hell, now I’m noticing that every player in this game seems to be wearing gloves. When did that happen?
/inattentive viewer
Elmo
@mai naem mobile: nope. Nobody in the airport sells earplugs.
mainmati
I’m of the generation that loved Peter Gabriel in his various manifestations and still do.
Howard Beale IV
@Baud: Depends on who you get and what the topic is. It’s not quite at the masters level this palce is tho, so observe for a while before bringing the snark processor online-and they do wield the banhammer over there, so be warned.
Gin & Tonic
@Tommy: I’m trying hard to count up how many cars I’ve driven past the 200k miles mark. Got close to 300 on a Saturn one time.
Gin & Tonic
@Corner Stone: Ah, someone else remembers Squadra azzurra.
Another Holocene Human
@Pogonip: I thought U was the male honorific?
Howard Beale IV
@dmsilev: More than likely the power supply crapped out. Usually that can be an easy fix, but if it really went bonkers it might have blown all sorts of fuses on the other PCB-or worse. Unless he can lay his hands on a service manual and it’s a Tier one manufacturer, it’s going to be a crapshoot. Today’s TV’s aren’t like fixing a PC-and if the set is a plasma, no way would I even THINK of touching it-I’d find an authorized Panny repair shop and get a quote.
srv
@Howard Beale IV: Maybe I need a tube pre-amp…
But then I’d need better speakers. And then they won’t fit on my desktop (I never listen in the living room anymore).
I keep thinking all this shit will be affordable when I retire.
Elie
Oven roasted/grilled rib eye-YUM
We have a for true butcher in town now and he gets real quality stuff. My toes curl.
Another Holocene Human
@JPL: Trader Joe’s is better than Whole Foods on all kinds of things that commie lib-lunatics care about, like treatment of workers and … treatment of workers, but I have no idea how the food compares. I’ve only ever lived near one or the other, must say WF is more like a normal supermarket, bigger produce section. Also, TJ doesn’t have an entire aisle devoted to woo. Never seen Pentawater on the shelf. So there’s that.
Whole Foods is like a parody of the commie pinko community co-op, same stuff inside, same markup except for WH it’s all profit while the co-op barely scrapes by.
Trader Joe’s is a successfully US-domestic-market-branded branch of a German discount grocer. I first heard of it because all of the German nationals I knew would descend on the place to get a taste of home, dried sour cherries and stuff like that. The existing German delis in the area kind of sucked.
Another Holocene Human
Oddly, aldi is also a German discount grocer, same name on both continents, BIG black eye with American consumers for some reason. Maybe it’s the whole charging you for bags things. I guess you can feed people total shit like Dollar General which is awful as long as the plastic bags are free … you need those bags … for human doots or cat doots or to put general garbage in. Never mind the same store will sell you dozens of much better bags in a box, gimme the free ones! USA! USA!
raven
@tybee: He said ten years not 40. My dentist and his dad had a place their before the 1st bridge was built.
Another Holocene Human
@Elie: I’m jelly.
schrodinger's cat
@Elizabelle: I love that bread! Its great with an egg and roast beef and a dash of my homemade chilli garlic sauce.
catclub
@Another Holocene Human: Odd that NC is not in that map, but Indiana is. Indiana was a SURPRISE in 2008, and losing NC was somewhat of a surprise in 2012. Now I am worried. They don’t need to expand the map, but they do need to hold the wobbly states. I suspect FL and WI and OH will all be tough.
Possibly Iowa, as well.
Another Holocene Human
@Elizabelle: Italian! Duh! I iz dumb. You are much kinder to me than you have to be.
I’m sure it’s quite tasty but, alas, the only bread I can these days is Rudy’s or Udi’s and both give me a stomach ache before too long (but not weaponized acid reflux, so — win?). Sigh.
schrodinger's cat
@Another Holocene Human: I like them both, for different products. Aldi’s has great prices on frozen seafood and they have good produce, although it is limited in variety. I buy nuts, cheeses and pasta at TJ’s.
Anne Laurie
@Elizabelle:
We bought an old-fashioned Amish-style bread box, and my Tuscan pane keeps just great in it!
(I’m sure smaller, less expensive models work great too — the Spousal Unit insisted on this one because it looks good to him. But it surprised me that I could keep Panera bagels edible for 2 or 3 days, and Tuscan Pane / Flying Pig bread fresh for a week in the box. We have frig-space issues, so it’s great to have a working alternative for bread products.)
Iowa Old Lady
@Howard Beale IV: Working on it will keep Mr IOL off the streets, I suppose. But the back and the screen take up a lot of space in the living room.
p.a.
@Elizabelle: I dislike real Tuscan bread: in the 16th century (ish) to protest a salt tax increase the people boycotted salt. Bakers too. Tuscan Eye-talians being rather cranky, they never went back to using salt in bread. Maybe just Florentines, I forget. Anyhoo, if made properly it tastes really flat.
Anne Laurie
Which reminds me — used to be that ‘frost free’ refrigerators were notorious for drying stuff out (rose growers wouldn’t use them to preserve show blooms & it was my impression that bread dried out faster even though it didn’t mildew). Has this changed, or was it just an old wives’ tale?
Another Holocene Human
@catclub: NC is a purple state. IN is probably going to stay red. I know a lot of ILers who worked really hard (some Hoosiers too although the ones I know personally were transplants) to turn out the vote especially in Gary, South Bend, etc. Sadly, I don’t think Dems can win low turnout elections in IN except for a few municipalities. They have 1st world infrastructure, way to skate on being surrounded by OH, MI, and IL, while they indulge in their hateful right-wing Christian know-nothing-ism. Wonder how things will be after a few decades of no-pork. As far as passenger rail goes they are the weakest link even though it is hurting them, but, you know, lost opportunities don’t appear on that “bottom line” so fuck change, growth, joining the 21st century, amirite?
White downstate and midstate Hoosiers love to get their hate on where the minority-majority industrial-cum-rust belt Northern corners of the state are concerned. They spend state $$$$ on highway expansions they don’t even need (somebody’s getting paid) while the “good people” cheer them on and defund any sort of public transit because giving “those people” transportation would just be encouraging them. I’ve (reluctantly) visited the place several times since 2008 on my own time and dime and with the exception of the veddy nice Indy airport and underappreciated art museum, let me return that very sincere middle finger that you not so subtly gave me, Indiana. Fuck you too.
NotMax
@Another Holocene Human
No TJ’s here, but do go to Whole Foods when in need of non-Costco-size containers of spices. Almost always 15 to 30% less than at the standard supermarkets.
They also sometimes have some $3.99 bottles of wine which are fine for cooking purposes.
Another Holocene Human
@p.a.: OTOH, Viennese style bread is amazeballs. Never understood why it wasn’t a bigger deal in the US.
JPL
@Another Holocene Human: When Whole Foods bought out Harry’s Farmers Market near me, the benefits were much better than the previous owner. I know Trader Joe’s is good but Whole Foods is a lot better than most supermarkets. The original owners might be libertarians but they knew how to keep a staff.
Howard Beale IV
@Anne Laurie: Don’t keep bread in the refrigerator. Use the freezer. Yes, even in a frost-free refrigerator.
JoyfulA
@schrodinger’s cat: Aldi’s & TJs were owned by two brothers. One brother died (don’t know whether Aldi’s or TJs owner), and now the whole family owns both.
We have Aldi’s around here, and they are cheaper than anywhere else yet the quality is fine; some dislike the lack of variety, but that’s where the cheap comes from.
Now, if only Trader Joe would open up around here—
schrodinger's cat
@NotMax: You should try your Indian/Asian grocery stores for spices, they are cheaper and fresher.
Mnemosyne
@Another Holocene Human:
You probably have trouble with FODMAPs. I’ve noticed that Rudi’s bread takes out wheat, which is one of the troublesome FODMAPs, but they add in other ones like chicory root and honey, so that’s probably why they still bother you even without wheat in them. It’s a relatively new discovery that they made in Australia (but at a real university) and there definitely seems to be something to it.
schrodinger's cat
@JoyfulA: I know about their background, also too how IKEA is the Walmart of Sweden.
dedc79
@Steeplejack: I think it’s partly the gloves, partly the fact that some of these guys have enormous hands. But what made this catch even more crazy than most was the way beckham contorted himself to get the ball and land in bounds.
Another Holocene Human
@catclub: I agree about Iowa. What’s funny is that NE is kind of a sleeper. Not that it’s really a swing state but the more urban part of the state seems to have some credible activism and organizing going on and the Dem Party has a pulse? Thought they were way down the rabbit hole by now.
Iowa is developing these really ugly grievance politics based on federal farm subsidy flows and trying to evade safety and cruelty regs for meat-animal raising and butchering. You got some of the biggest scumbags in the protein business, the salmonella egg king, the Rubashkins, for two examples (ironically, both came to Iowa from elsewhere to avoid stricter state gov’ts back East) trying to buy off state gov’t to keep them out of their hair and demagoguing against the USDA and DOJ, etc, doing anything about employing underage, undocumented, and unschooled children in abottoirs or keeping E Coli out of the food supply.
Then you have the dumb rubes Steve King plays to, the idiots who noticed that there are Hispanics working in packing plants and without understanding two things about economics are all too quick to believe “They took er jaaawbs.”
Iowa was in such better shape economically, so much more middle class, that they were immune from the shitty politics infesting their neighbor states but global and US accelerating inequality is coming home to roost. It really worries me.
IA was going to be a partner with IL to run high speed rail between CHI and Quad Cities, but the GOP took over state gov’t and that was, what, 5 years ago now? Partially riding a wave of reaction to SSM, but once they get in, they set about making things shitty to entrench GOP power. Iowa Dem Party refuses to adapt to the new normal. Yeah. Could end badly.
p.a.
@Howard Beale IV: I wrap in freezer paper and aluminum foil. Unwrap, cover in a towel and let it defrost naturally. For crusty bread, 5-10 mins@ 250° brings it right back. Tried a vacuum sealer once on a round Italian loaf. I was 95% sure what would happen, and I was right: world’s largest and most crisp communion wafer. Thought, “maybe when I open the bag it will re-inflate”. I’m dumb.
skerry
@Another Holocene Human: If you ever find yourself in Indianapolis again with some time to kill, visit Kurt Vonnegut’s library/museum. It’s a treasure. And you are right about the art museum. Nice building and beautiful grounds.
Raven on the Hill
@Corner Stone: Swinehund!
Another Holocene Human
@Mnemosyne: That isn’t a probably, it’s a definite. I have to limit intake of onions, for one example. I tend to have problems with resistant starch as well. Cold potatoes, or especially tostones.
I think there may be more to the wheat thing, though. My friend, who was diagnosed with Celiac sprue, his wife (big science nerd) tells me, after several months off wheat you’re going to notice other changes. Like less acne.
She was right.
p.a.
@Another Holocene Human: I’ll be on the lookout for it.
Elie
Its not hopeless but only a white male southener will ever get any of these people to ever just go to neutral — best case. Its the “end times” to these folks… you can’t talk them off the ledge with a brown or black person — (I wish it werent so — but our experience in the last 6 years now confirms it).Until these folks are the hard minority and till we have overcome all of their resistance (which will be substantial and increasing), this is the truth
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@Another Holocene Human: Those of us in Minnesota would really like to have a good rail line to Chicago but we find ourselves surrounded by nutjobs who won’t participate.
NotMax
@schrodinger’s cat
Maybe on the mainland, not so much here. Few options like that other than small Filipino markets, and what selection there is in those is sparse.
Honolulu has Chinatown, but that’s a whole ‘nother island.
Discovered the much better prices at Whole Foods when ran out of saffron. Hadn’t been inside it before.
mai naem mobile
I go to TJs a lot. I find WF a ripoff. I’ve seen exact items at TJs cheaper than at WF. Forget that though, I find the staff at TJs seem to be happy. A few years ago I took a friend along who had never been to a TJs before and as we were leaving the store, he was asked me what kind of happy pills the staff were on!
Steeplejack
@dedc79:
Like I said, not taking anything away from the catch. It was f’amazeballs, as the yoots would say. And Beckham has huge hands. The ball looks like a Nerf toy in his grip.
(I have been reliably informed that “f’amazeballs” = “fucking amazeballs.” My new hip phrase. But possibly no longer, because the mere fact of my knowing it reduces or negates its hipness.)
JoyfulA
@schrodinger’s cat: Ha, I didn’t know that Ikea is the WalMart of Sweden!
Another Holocene Human
@JPL: I dunno about original owners or if that is same as current owner, but the current owner threatened to fire Spanish-speaking stock workers with limited English skills for speaking Spanish to each other within earshot of customers.
He’s been a regular colostomy bag about the PPACA, about climate change, generally about anything he flaps his yap about. And that’s before you start thinking more deeply about what the brand is selling, behind the greenwashed labels on everything and the hyped up claims, the nonsense that human disease and even virtue comes down to what you put in your mouth and the chutzpah to claim to offer exactly such pure divine substance for sale–and what a bargain!
Another Holocene Human
@JoyfulA: They’re frigging liars too* but I am kind of addicted to their design aesthetic and I like their linens better than JPC and Macy’s (Federated, that’s your name, own it), so help me.
Their stuff seems cheap but stands up to my extremely hard use and washing after washing. A lot of their homegoods are flimsy so it’s kind of surprising.
*Virginia, USA IKEA factory workers struggled for years to get a union … IKEA literally tried to buy them off with a free shitty bicycle for each employee … talk about heads up their asses, like it’s easy to commute anywhere in Virginia with a bicycle, even in NOVA you risk death basically even if the distances aren’t too bad
Howard Beale IV
@p.a.: I wish FoodSaver would make a big ass Vacuum box. Actually, I think I’ll try an experiment with bread and my Mason jars.
gogol's wife
@Steeplejack:
I love Sterling Holloway.
Love that movie.
Another Holocene Human
IKeA is more like Ford Motor Company, hand-in-glove with their sovereign government in the 1950s, and the Nazi connections also, too.
divF
@Another Holocene Human: I have mixed feelings about WF. Not only is there too much woo, the staff is so relentlessly cheerful that I suspect they are being given drugs when they clock in. OTOH, if I am in, say, Reston Virginia, the only place I can get such exotica as Parmigiano-Reggiano or wheat bran is the local WF.
Mnemosyne
@Another Holocene Human:
If you know you have FODMAPs issues, you definitely have to read food labels very carefully, because it seems like they take out one (like wheat) and add two more in its place. I just had a colonoscopy and I definitely don’t have any celiac issues, so mine seem to be mostly FODMAPs (and wheat/fructans seem to be a fairly mild one for me).
gogol's wife
@FlipYrWhig:
He’s great, but he isn’t ready to run for president.
mai naem mobile
If you look at IKEA labels its all made in China/Pakistan/Vietnam etc. I really was surprised. I figured a lot if it would be European made for all the big deal they make about being Swedish.
Another Holocene Human
Wal*Mart is a little bit like Honda, rose all on their own without any real gov’t support … gonna fall on their own, too.
Another Holocene Human
@mai naem mobile: No fair, plenty of stuff is made in Czech Republic and Bulgaria, probably Slovakia, Roumania, Estonia etc as well.
I’ve bought two broom/pan sets from them made in Czech Republic and can’t complain about the quality.
On a more serious note, Chinese textiles are making big inroads in Europe. Big scandal in Italy that finished goods made in China were being sold with Product of Italy tags. Several years ago I visited Rome with my wife and laughed out loud at the street stalls selling the same shit you could get at big box discounters in the States with the immigrant stall-men swearing up and down they were made in Italy. Ya … sure. Cool story, dude. And not long thereafter, the stories started breaking.
Howard Beale IV
@JoyfulA: Ikea consumes 1% of all forest land every year.
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Chicago and the major cities surrounding it would have been the ideal place for Japanese-style high speed bullet trains. Too bad that window closed decades ago.
@Another Holocene Human: It’s amazing when European companies come to the US, they go into full anti-union mode, whereas back home, they wouldn’t even dare think about. The list is just endless.
Amir Khalid
@mai naem mobile:
IKEA, like any multinational corporation, sources from wherever it’s cheapest. I don’t think I’ve ever bought a European-made IKEA product. Have you?
Another Holocene Human
@divF: Why bran? Serious question.
My immediate family’s dabbling in 70s style health food nuttery ended at cod liver oil and wheat germ.
Howard Beale IV
@Amir Khalid: My Ikea mixing bowls were made in Poland.
mai naem mobile
There is no way Lorde is 16 or whatever. The woman looks like shes 35. Also too, i hate rap music and getnoffamahlawn.
raven
@mai naem mobile: Ever see Puddles the Pity Party cover Royals?
dance around in your bones
Gads, I’m in a weird mood tonight. I read the thing about J. Gabriel as balls instead of ballad, and started musing about how weird that term was to me back in the day – when I was 14-15 or so – like, “Why do people say we “balled”? Or “I balled her”……then I read the comment about buying a Prius and read it as pe.nis….and thought, ‘girl, you gotta relax here’.
Perhaps my mind is a tad preoccupied…..plus I have a slightly stinky little old dog sleeping on the pillow next to me, I’m trying not to inhale…..
Another Holocene Human
@Howard Beale IV: The exception are the Germans, in VW’s case the VW Works-Council absolutely twisted their arm about Tennessee, probably after some US labor activists called them up and were like So. This thing. You might be interested in knowing.
It seems like Germany has a good union model that works and is sustainable and–business ought to like this–has made for successful businesses and few work stoppages. I guess that means it will never be implemented here.
Amir Khalid
@mai naem mobile:
Lorde just turned 18, if I’m not mistaken, but Taylor Swift says she knows all the mysteries of the world so she’s got to be a very well disguised 300.
Howard Beale IV
@raven: That’s one tall dude.
Another Holocene Human
@dance around in your bones: wow, that is some old school 60s slang … too bad you never found out because I wondered about the origin as well
now balling means throwing cash around like an as-yet-unindicted co-conspirator
raven
@dance around in your bones: big balls in cowtown
Mnemosyne
@mai naem mobile:
One of the tabloids did a full investigation, tracked down her birth certificate and … yep, she really is only 18.
Corner Stone
Can’t stand the Cowboys but that was one sweet INT.
JoyfulA
@Howard Beale IV: I’ve never been in an Ikea. I always seem to have too much furniture rather than not enough.
But I understand buyers have to assemble it, which wouldn’t work for me anyhow.
Howard Beale IV
@Another Holocene Human:
AhYup.
Steeplejack
@gogol’s wife:
Just checked, and TCM will be running Remember the Night at 8:00 p.m. EST on Thursday, December 4.
Another Holocene Human
@Howard Beale IV:
Not so fast. IL got a lot of ARRA money, not everything they needed from the Feds but they’ve put it to good use. I rode CONO and the upgraded portions, very nice, and ridership is up nicely as well. Check out Illini and Saluki. Corridor trains.
The window absolutely is not closed (as in, lost the land rights, stuff built in old ROWs) for better passenger rail in IL and CHI area:
http://www.createprogram.org/projects.htm
CHI to STL is an HSR target, lot of infrastructure work getting into STL, in Springfield also, think there is still actual trackwork going on at present.
But Indiana is another story. No Wabash Cannonball on the horizon. Track in horrid shape, gave up a lot of ROWs.
Also, these folks are great:
http://www.midwesthsr.org/
Much more to crow about than the South East High Speed Rail advocates. (Well, there’s Virginia. And North Carolina. Annnnnd both are completely conventional rail at often quite low speeds.)
I’d add a link to Amtrak Illinois but you’ll have to google it because FYWP does not like linkies.
Another Holocene Human
Too be fair, 110mph diesel is not a bullet train but it’s a far sight better than 55mph top out on bumpy tracks! And one train a day or three a week, 2am arrival at the Amshack. And IL has the ridership to prove it.
Amir Khalid
@JoyfulA:
Assembling flat-packed furniture can be fun, like solving a three-dimensional puzzle, and is often good exercise. (He said innocently.)
raven
@Howard Beale IV: He was in the Offbeat Eats episode they did at the White Tiger (I am in it too). It’s on the Cooking Channel and I heard on Food Network as well. Jim Stacy, the guy with the beard is probably 6’3″ and Puddles is bigger.
Corner Stone
Who the F leaves Dez Bryant that F’ng wide open?
ruemara
I’m feeling utterly flawless. Watching the first 5 seconds of JMN’s main character skating and all that hockey watching has paid off. Of course, this is the gross body moves, not the hair tweaks or eyes or head, but still FLAW. LESS. Fuck haters, I’m flawless. Before I go to bed, I should probably set another camera angle and render another pass for the edit. A little successful feeling is rare for me, I have to soak in it for a while.
mai naem mobile
@Another Holocene Human: i may be wrong. I am a big label reader. I try to buy non-chinese non sweatshop stuff. I went there a few years ago specifically for a comforter that looked good in the catalog. It was made in Pakistan and i don’t care for the quality of Pakistani or Indian linens. Anyhoo, thats when i started looking at the Ikea labels and it seemed like everything was chinese or other sweatshop labor countries. Disappointing.
Howard Beale IV
@JoyfulA: Well, IKEA does offer assembly services, but unless you’re buying a metric shitton of stuff, it’s a rather stiff charge. In another thread a day or so ago, we had a thread talking about IKEA assembly instructions. On the snark scale, it rated a 6.
raven
@Howard Beale IV: There stuff isn’t hard if you just take your time.
dance around in your bones
@Another Holocene Human: Truly? That’s what it means now? “Balling” always sounded kinda nasty to me, like – well, you can probably imagine. I always thought it had a kinda ‘Balls to the Wall” thing going for it (MC5?)
I guess “:My Old Lady” or “My Old Man”has gone out of style now, as well.We really used to say that shit
@raven:ooh, I liked that, When I think of Big Balls, it’s usually AC/DC (I can still remember my husband and I stifling ourselves as our daughter – all of 12? – brought home her first album, and we were listening to:
I’ve got big balls
I’ve got big balls
And they’re such big balls
fancy big balls
And he’s got big balls,
And she’s got big balls,
But we’ve got the biggest balls of them all!
We just about died laughing, very quietly.
M31
@p.a.:
Dante (ca 1300), who was a Florentine, when he was exiled from his native city talks about his sadness at the saltiness of foreign bread.
(and ‘foreign’ meant Rome)
Mnemosyne
@Howard Beale IV:
People who think Ikea furniture is hard to assemble have never bought furniture from Target.
JoyfulA
@Amir Khalid: I assembled shelves about 20 years ago. It took me 3 days and was still crooked. This stuff is not my forte.
divF
@Another Holocene Human: I try to stay on a pretty low-carb diet to keep my weight down. In addition, it is a pretty low-bulk diet, and wheat bran is a low-carb way of introducing fiber. It bears an uncanny resemblance to sawdust, but mixed with yogurt it is entirely edible. Don’t let the mixture dry, though – you could use it to grout tile.
raven
@dance around in your bones: ACDC was after my time.
Howard Beale IV
@Another Holocene Human: Interesting. And while we’re at it–Fuck Scott Walker.
mai naem mobile
@Amir Khalid: i like Taylor Swift. She’s got an awesome amount of drive and pluck along with talent.I hope she doesn’t have an eating disorder. Shes got that too big head on too skinny a neck thing going that eating disorder people seem to have.
Violet
@Another Holocene Human: Are you taking probiotics of some sort? Not sure what your issues are but the gut microbiome is so essential for so many things–not just gut related, but mental health issues, immune system, skin issues, etc.–that you might find targeted probiotics help you in other ways. You do need to have fiber and prebiotics to help them stick around in your gut.
I’ve found certain brands of probiotics helpful for me and one brand that is recommended frequently caused me problems initially and now doesn’t. I think something was messed up in my gut and this probiotic helped fix it but it took time.
If onions cause you problems, you might be missing the bacteria that consume inulin, such as Roseburia. Not eating it means the bacteria aren’t fed and tend to diminish. The next time you eat it, you get a slightly worse reaction because you don’t have enough bacteria to consume it properly. That’s the general short version of how it works. Everyone is different, of course. This is kind of the reverse way of looking at FODMAPs.
Linnaeus
What’s on my agenda? Spending a couple of hours looking over intelligence-related documents from the Eisenhower Presidential Library. Fun stuff.
Tommy
Oh try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JduG0nT1Q3s
This post did start with Peter Gabriel?
Another Holocene Human
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): You also have privatization and bus rapid transit fanatics IN Minnesota. It’s a car-lovin’ place.
Wisconsin is funny. I think Wisc-GOP and many Dems actually hate Madison more than Wisc-GOP hates Milwaukee (and people of dusky hue) since Madison rail was killed six ways to Sunday and Walker killed a half-way executed rail car order at cost to the state (also cost them jobs–CONGRATULATIONS! as some might say) but recently the WI GOP has been kinda flirting with doing something to enhance the Hiawathas.
If MN funded a second daily to CHI, which I think is on a lot of rail advocates minds, I mean, newly restored Saint Paul Union Depot kinda screams for the need for newly restored service, and MN funds it, maybe with a small assist from IL, I don’t think WI would get in the way.
If Empire Builder is anything to go by ridership would be robust and it might open up some first class cabins on EB to sell at higher rates to longer distance patrons although the economics of first class on Amtrak are complicated so I can’t be certain it would work out like that. But it’s a general principle that having all your ridership on certain segments and then dragging dead weight through others is kind of a loss right there.
Mnemosyne
@raven:
It’s because you didn’t have kids. My mom loves AC/DC (and Pink Floyd) because my brothers listened to it.
Corner Stone
@dance around in your bones: No, when you reference “balling” it means fucking. We “balled” all night long.
What dumbass AHH is talking about is a Big Baller. We “balled out” means lived it up like kings.
Mike J
@dance around in your bones: OED says first published use of ball meaning sex was:
William Gaddis · The recognitions · 1st edition, 1955 (1 vol.). New York: Harcourt, Brace
raven
@Mnemosyne: My brother manages this Floyd cover band in LA. He picked a band that I just didn’t get into from those days.
eta
It’s not really because of kids or no kids, Floyd just wasn’t what I was into. ACDC was after that.
Corner Stone
Story Of The Year is way better than I had realized.
Another Holocene Human
@Violet: Oh yeah, inulin, they straight up add that stuff to some processed foods because the corporate food business is evil and wants my guts to die.
You’re right about bac but I’m not convinced about the probiotics hype at all. It’s one thing to get prescribed replacement bac after antibiotics (some doctors do this but mine never did–#winning! they didn’t tell me that antibiotics make you B-deficient either so they probably helped set me on a lifetime of mood disorder, thanks Obama). I tried that stuff at the healthfood store (for years, I’m a stubborn gullible rube) and it didn’t work one damn bit.
Now there IS such a thing as pre-biotics. Leafy green vegetables. That promote growth of less evil commensals so they hopefully crowd out the ones sending sneaky little hormonal signals to your brain that make you crave plastic food like fried Mars bars TRUE STORY ABOUT BACTERIA I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP.
Also, too, probiotic yogurt IS A LIE. Dannone had to settle, dunno with how many governments for false made up bullshit claims. Tasty yogurt but their claims didn’t pass the smell test. Your stomach is a very different environment from the small intestines. You shall not pass! And other digestive system jokes.
dance around in your bones
@Corner Stone: Well, uh – thanks Corner – like I didn’t know it meant FUCKING!
It was just a weird way to say it, I thought,,,,,Like ‘breasting’ or p.enising’ something.
Ok, here’s another term I heard when I was still in middle school, and at some party with a bunch of horny lil guys, and one of them asked me if “I knew how to play the skin flute?” And I’m like, what the fuck is he talking about? I kinda worked it out later, but – still weird..
@raven: Mine, too. It was the kid brought it home.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@skerry: Michelle Obama could run after Hillary.
Wouldn’t that cause some heads to explode! :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
dance around in your bones
@Mike J: Andale pues! That’s interesting! I was born in 1953, so perhaps I was a somewhat early adopter/hearer of the term….
Steeplejack
@dance around in your bones:
Too lazy to go into full
pedantetymologist mode tonight, but I believe that balling descends from “balling the jack,” a phrase made popular in a 1913 song with that title.From “The Language of the Blues”:
NotMax
@dance around in your bones
Evolution of the terminology from the blues.
raven
@Mnemosyne: Actually you are partly right. I don’t have kids but my brother is 10 years younger than me and he was not only into ACDC, I think his wife know them.
Another Holocene Human
@Howard Beale IV: Fuck Scott Walker, a sentiment which cannot be repeated enough.
@NotMax: Cool! that website is so fighting with me now though
raven
@Steeplejack:
I been balling a shiny black steel jack-hammer,
been chippin’ up rocks for the great highway,
live five years if I take my time,
ballin’ that jack and a drinkin’ my wine.
I been chippin’ them rocks from dawn till doom,
while my rider hide my bottle in the other room.
Doctor say better stop ballin’ that jack,
if I live five years I gonna bust my back, yes I will.
Mnemosyne
We’re watching Scrooged. I’m not sure I’ve seen it all the way through before.
Corner Stone
@dance around in your bones: Well, you’re the dumbass who acted like they didn’t know what it meant.
I, for one, was sure you were familiar with all sorts of vulgarity. But, just trying to help an old broken down fire engine horse out.
NotMax
@NotMax
Points, however, are taken away from the writer I linked to for misspelling Florenz Ziegfeld.
GregB
@Steeplejack:
Used to hear getting laid referred to as balling back when I was a young lad in the 70’s. Haven’t heard that colloquialism in a long time.
Violet
@Another Holocene Human: Not all antibiotics make you B-deficient. Depends on which ones and what else is going on with you. I’m having good luck with this probiotic. Moving to soil based probiotics has definitely had a good effect for me.
Recent studies into the gut microbiome have indicated that taking probiotics without prebiotics, which is what the bacteria eat, to keep them around means you’re essentially just flushing them through your system. Also a lot of probiotics don’t make it through your stomach and small intestine to get down to the large intestine where they’re more useful. The soil based probiotics tend to do that better.
The other key seems to a healthier gut seems to be fiber. Part of feeding the good gut bacteria.
Mike J
@dance around in your bones: 1955 was the first published use OED found. Keep in mind that slang, especially sex slang, is often in use for decades before it gets used in print. Or used to be. It may get used more quickly now.
And maybe unrelated, maybe not:
‘ First you put your two knees close up tight,
Then you sway ’em to the left, then you sway ’em to the right,
Step around the floor kind of nice and light,
Then you twis’ around and twis’ around with all your might,
Stretch your lovin’ arms straight out in space
Then do the Eagle Rock with style and grace
Swing your foot way ’round then bring it back,
Now that’s what I call “Ballin’ the Jack.”
Ballin the Jack.
(that song is from 1913, that performance from 1942.)
dance around in your bones
@Steeplejack: That’s fascinating – I know a lot about the blues but didn’t really connect the ‘Balling The Jack’ thing (well, back when I was in my teens)…..but, how interesting that people were doing the ‘dance like we’re fucking’ thing way back in the day. I forget what they call it now.
@NotMax: Man, everyone knows fucking everything around here. I love all y’all.
Tommy
@raven: Fumny. My brother is ten years younger and he listens to rap.
Corner Stone
GEEE MEN!!
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@ruemara: So, is that flawlessly awesome, or awesomely flawless?
mai naem mobile
I feel really old watching the AMAs. I’m guessing half the people in that hall have no clue who Miss Diana Ross is and probably think shes a fuddy duddy lil ole lady.
PurpleGirl
@srv: I once saw an egg yolk yellow car. The license plate was “No yolk”.
dance around in your bones
@Corner Stone: Dude, I was talking about when I was barely fucking out of my teens. We are not ALL born knowing every sexual term on the planet.!
And what’s the old broken down fire engine ref? ME? Dang, guy – you get a bit mean at night sometimes.{{{she gets a bit weepy}}}
Another Holocene Human
So the gambler’s ballin’ predates the groovy hippy usage. Gambler’s terminology does seem to have very long legs.
(College slang is also remarkably persistent, perhaps it’s that time in everyone’s life where you want to fit in and be different at the same time.)
Hm, speaking of songs and RR lore, when the Dead sang Casey Jones about the locomotive engineer who gave Reagan the idea for all those pee tests //joking, they were creating a new variant of a folk song based on the real life and death of an engineer on the segregated IC line back in the days when RR’s were grinding up employees like hamburger:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Jones
The railroad railroaded him posthumously. He was famous in part because he saved fireman Sim Webb’s life in the crash and Webb’s subsequent statements to the press about what Jones had done became the stuff of legend.
Webb was African American. Steve Goodman sang about the segregation on the railroad in “City of New Orleans” which is about the IC line. (The CONO today also is on the IC line but it runs on the timetable of the Panama Limited. I think the Panama in the name refers to the Gulf Coast not the country. Anyway, only RR nerds like my dad care about that name.)
Gin & Tonic
@Mike J: I actually read that book. I don’t think many people have.
raven
@dance around in your bones: And. of course, I’m trying to heal my unit from the mesh swimsuit I was wearing while I fished for three days. Butt Paste and Gold Bond and I hope I’m good to go tomorrow cuz I’m going back in the water most rickey tic. (With a new pair of fishing shots with no lining)!
NotMax
@mai naem mobile
Balled by Berry Gordy.
Another Holocene Human
@PurpleGirl: Now that’s ballin’.
raven
@Another Holocene Human: I posted lyrics from Easy WInd up top.
Another Holocene Human
My favorite vanity plate spotted was 2SCHLAU.
In retrospect, I hope the owner wasn’t a psycho killer or something. Then I would just feel bad.
Corner Stone
That little Beasley fucker for Dallas.
raven
Ballin’ the Jack is basically just a sensual, gyration dance with bumps and grinds. Notorious in its day, it was done as a solo dance or along with swing dancing. It’s first public appearance was in 1913 at the Lafayette Theater in Harlem, the play was called “The Darktown Follies” produced by Leubrie Hill in the first act called “At The Ball, That’s All.” Florence Ziegfeld loved it so much he purchased the rights and used it in his Follies of 1913.
Corner Stone
Dez Bryant is straight ballin’ in this game.
Corner Stone
What a fucking duck that ball was by Romo. God he fucking sucks balls.
Howard Beale IV
From Erik Wemple’s blog: Darren Wilson has been meeting with network anchors: What the heck?
What the heck? More like WHAT THE FUCK?!?
dance around in your bones
@raven: A mesh lined suit? What , does that protect again sharks and stingrays and jellies?
It sounds an awful lot like Cruel Shoes. Which I have never worn.
GregB
@raven:
Free ballin’!
Another Holocene Human
@Mike J:
Must be the inspiration for this:
It’s just a jump to the left.
And then a step to the right.
With your hands on your hips.
You bring you knees in tight.
But it’s the pelvic thrust…
That really drives you insane
Let’s do the Time Warp again.
Let’s do the Time Warp again.
(1973)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-vgGuTD8A
Read more: Rocky Horror Picture Show – The Time Warp Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Steeplejack
Big Bill Broonzy, “I Feel So Good” (1940s):
Audio recording here.
Corner Stone
@Tommy: Damn, that’s fumny. What a baller!
Violet
@mai naem mobile: Beyonce is going to be old one day too and all the kids will look at her and think she’s the old fuddy duddy. Time marches on.
raven
@dance around in your bones: I didn’t realize it was an issue until it became one. Then I hit the google and got mostly surfer sites that talked about how bad the mesh lining and extended salt water exposure is.
Another Holocene Human
@Howard Beale IV: He’s about due for the Sheriff Joe Excellence In Public Service Award with that performance.
And fuck CNN. Lickspittles.
mai naem mobile
@NotMax: hey, she got a song out of it like taylor swift gets a song out of every balling.@Another Holocene Human: i am not getting it. To school gold? To chill gold? To chill aut?
Steeplejack
@Gin & Tonic:
I did. Decades ago. Will not reread.
ruemara
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Not sure yet about awesome, but I’ll take flawless, even though I can see the “flaws” which are the the touches yet to be done. Can’t wait to render her over a backdrop.
Corner Stone
C’mon Lil Eli!
Another Holocene Human
@Steeplejack: Diesel electrics are so much less exciting than steam trains, all you do is push a throttle or maybe a handle or a joystick-looking thing a little bit. Maybe you could pretend to be Scotty in the transporter room but probably not.
Some places they have this signal system that will cut your power, too. No ludicrous speed allowed!
Mike J
@Corner Stone:
The Game was yesterday and Harvard won, 31-24.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@ruemara: I’m looking forward to it. I’m also looking forward to being rid of this cold so that I can concentrate enough to do serious revision work rather than just spitballing crazy ideas.
NotMax
@VioletSaw this and thought perhaps it would be of peripheral interest:
Another Holocene Human
@mai naem mobile: Oops, I deleted the part of my comment where I mentioned it’s a too clever concatenation of English and German. I’m sure Amir got it. :)
Corner Stone
Fucking Dallas.
mai naem mobile
@Howard Beale IV: they’re probably paying Wilson big $$$ for the interview. Like six/seven figure big money.
Mandalay
@rikyrah:
No, it isn’t a photograph. But it was electronically copied from a photograph. It was done on a iPad, and you can see a video of its apparent progress here.
Sadly, several of the comments at that link plausibly explain why that specific (digital) example of photorealism is a fake.
And folks here have analyzed the metadata of the image. It’s definitely a fake, and the artist is lying about how it was created.
The moral of the story? If an example of photorealism is an electronic image rather than physical product, be wary about how much of the effort and talent came from software as opposed to the artist.
Violet
@NotMax: Sounds like it’s just about time for Violet to start climbing the “popular baby names” list!
Amir Khalid
@Another Holocene Human:
Of course I got it: “Too schlau“.
Anne Laurie
New thread up top — not that the people whose mobiles won’t load more than two hundred comments can see this!
Omnes Omnibus
@GregB: Going commando.
@Tommy: People of many ages listen to rap. I’ve even been known to do so.