Frank Rich, in NYMag, gets some amazing quotes from Mr. Rock on “What’s killing comedy. What’s saving America“:
The last time Frank Rich had a conversation with Chris Rock was in early 1996, when they and the 1950s teen heartthrob Pat Boone were thrown together in a New York television studio as panelists on Bill Maher’s old show Politically Incorrect. This time they had two conversations in a New York hotel lounge as Rock prepared for the release of Top Five, a bittersweet film comedy in which he does triple duty as director, screenwriter, and star…
You recently hosted Saturday Night Live, and in the monologue, where you were talking about the opening of One World Trade, my wife and I both felt just like you: No way are we going into that building. But you look online the next morning, and some people were offended and accused you of disparaging the 9/11 victims. The political correctness that was thought to be dead is now —
Oh, it’s back stronger than ever. I don’t pay that much attention to it. I mean, you don’t want to piss off the people that are paying you, obviously, but otherwise I’ve just been really good at ignoring it. Honestly, it’s not that people were offended by what I said. They get offended by how much fun I appear to be having while saying it. You could literally take everything I said on Saturday night and say it on Meet the Press, and it would be a general debate, and it would go away. But half of it’s because they think they can hurt comedians.
That they can hurt your career?
Yeah. They think you’re more accessible than Tom Brokaw saying the exact same thing…
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What do you think of how [President Obama]’s done? Here we are in the last two years of his presidency, and there’s a sense among his supporters of disappointment, that he’s disengaged.I’m trying to figure out the right analogy. Everybody wanted Michael Jordan, right? We got Shaq. That’s not a disappointment. You know what I mean? We got Charles Barkley. It’s still a Hall of Fame career. The president should be graded on jobs and peace, and the other stuff is debatable. Do more people have jobs, and is there more peace? I guess there’s a little more peace. Not as much peace as we’d like, but I mean, that’s kind of the gig. I don’t recall anybody leaving on an up. It’s just that kind of job. I mean, the liberals that are against him feel let down because he’s not Bush. And the thing about George Bush is that the kid revolutionized the presidency. How? He was the first president who only served the people who voted for him. He literally operated like a cable network. You know what I mean?
He pandered to his target audience.He’s the first cable-television president, and the thing liberals don’t like about Obama is that he’s a network guy. He’s kind of Les Moonves. He’s trying to get everybody. And I think he’s figured out, and maybe a little late, that there’s some people he’s never going to get…
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We still have some white people taking the Sarah Palin line about blacks and immigrants alike. They want to “take back the country”— and we know from whom. I find it depressing. The increments of change seem to be so much tinier than we wanted to believe when the Civil Rights Act passed 50 years ago, or when Obama was elected in 2008.Yeah. The stuff you’re talking about is pockets though. There’s always going to be people that don’t know that the war’s over. I’m more optimistic than you, but maybe it’s because I live the way I do. I just have a great life, so it’s easier for me to say things are great. But not even me. My brothers drive trucks and stock shelves. They live in a much better world than my father did. My mother tells stories of growing up in Andrews, South Carolina, and the black people had to go to the vet to get their teeth pulled out. And you still had to go to the back door, because if the white people knew the vet had used his instruments on black people, they wouldn’t take their pets to the vet. This is not some person I read about. This is my mother…
And there’s a bunch more good stuff, from the difficulty of doing stand-up in an age when every audience member is “wired up like Sammy the Bull”, to the way his daughters perceive the President’s daughters, to the difference between stand-up and directing, to how he’d report from Ferguson…
I’d do a special on race, but I’d have no black people….Here’s the thing. When we talk about race relations in America or racial progress, it’s all nonsense. There are no race relations. White people were crazy. Now they’re not as crazy. To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before…
… Which leads directly to the Ike & Tina Turner analogy that several commentors have quoted in previous threads. And when you go read the whole interview, you’ll admire the quote in context. But you’re cheating yourself if you don’t read the other stuff.
…[T]he thing is, we treat racism in this country like it’s a style that America went through. Like flared legs and lava lamps. Oh, that crazy thing we did. We were hanging black people. We treat it like a fad instead of a disease that eradicates millions of people. You’ve got to get it at a lab, and study it, and see its origins, and see what it’s immune to and what breaks it down…
Baud
I can’t stand Frank Roch, but it sounds like an amazing interview.
Violet
That’s a great interview. I love Chris Rock. He’s always seems to tell it like it is.
I saw the SNL monologue and I didn’t like it that much. Not because it offends 9/11 victims but because it plays right into the fear that the Republicans are pros at selling. So he’s afraid. And? Somehow he didn’t make it funny. At least not to me.
beth
I thought it was a really honest talk about race. Only a famous, really rich black person could say what he did about white people and get away with it. After all, racism really is our fault – we were really crazy a d now we’re less crazy.
I was a bit surprised with the line about his brothers driving trucks and stocking shelves. Does he mean his biological brothers?
jl
Never thought of Dub as the cable guy before, but it makes sense. CR makes a good point.
Not sure that Dub was the first president who only served those who voted for him. That characterization could fit Reagan and Bush I too, I think. But even if Dub were not the first president to only serve those who voted for him, he is the first cable guy president.
FDR is infamously reputed in some quarters as only serving the weak, and lame and the sick, and insolvent economic parasites that voted for him. I don’t think that’s true, he served the rich too, by saving US capitalism by giving it some rudiments of social democracy. But the rich can vote, and rail and yowl, against their own interests too. Only thing is that they don’t hurt as much or as soon as others do when the rich are opposed to what is best for their class in the long run.
schrodinger's cat
@Violet: I was at the many of the 26/11 attack sites when I was in Bombay this May. You wouldn’t even know looking at them now that they were scenes of bloody carnage not that long ago. It is admirable how people were just carrying on with their lives. May be it is that they don’t have the luxury to marinate in their angst and fear. I don’t know.
Cacti
I’d never thought about Dubya the way Rock described him, but it’s true.
He really was the President of the red states, and flipped the bird to anyone who didn’t vote for him.
schrodinger's cat
@Cacti: The current crop of Republicans make him almost look decent. They are that vile.
Gin & Tonic
@efgoldman: Even I, who know nothing, know that the Jets can’t beat anyone. And yet…
Bobby B.
I liked “The Dark Side” with Nat X. “Why only 15 minutes? Because THE MAN wouldn’t give me a half hour!”
schrodinger's cat
I loved Rock’s interview, honest, smart and funny all at the same time. The man has a gift.
jl
@schrodinger’s cat: Yeah, that is the scary thing. As much as I disliked and disagreed with them, both Reagan and Bush II had some decent impulses and made some good decisions (OK, can get Bush II’s counted off on one hand with a couple of fingers to spare)..
Both would be drummed out of the current GOP as wimpy wrong headed leftists. The real historical Reagan would, not the GOP cargo cult fetish, Zombie Godhead Reagan.
And yet the current GOP marches ever further into right wing insanity, and can win Congressional majorities, at least in midterm elections. Gawd Almighty, how depressing.
Cacti
@schrodinger’s cat:
Yeah, the whole racist backlash against the first non-white President has been unlike anything I’ve ever seen.
Joel
@jl: Interestingly, I’ve noticed that Reagan has been disappearing from the current GOP mythology. They’re more the Mao-type anyways.
jl
@schrodinger’s cat: I liked Rock’s take on ‘race relations’ even if I don’t 100 percent agree with it. Nice to hear it when fat old white farts on TV are spouting racist garbage about black thugs and the black community is the problem, and THEY gotta do this and THEY gotta do that (before they deserve to not be arrested at umpteen times the rate of white doing the same drugs, or shot down in the streets?)
That racist TV pundit BS is what is reminding me of the 80s, when I heard a lot of that bigoted garbage on TV. I heard it and thought “how the hell can they let these racist loons say that crap on national TV?” But, I was young and naive back then. Now I see the same stuff on TV. Mostly from old white male farts on the TV. 30 years later, and the same garbage.
There are a few exceptions. Norah O’Donnell had good interviews on Face the Nation.
schrodinger's cat
@Joel: I think of them more as Stalinists, actually.
Gin & Tonic
@efgoldman: I think his work on AIDS in Africa (look up PEPFAR) was an unalloyed good.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Me too, all that repulsiveness aggravated by some truly frightening, self-serving religious delusion. I absolutely believe the “God told me to strike Saddam” and “Gog and Magog” stories.
The Other Chuck
@Gin & Tonic: What about the Raiders? Hell, I think even the Mets could beat them.
jl
@efgoldman: Really. Compared to the current GOP. He was and is a self satisfied, incurious arrogant jerk. With a few decent impulses.
I think the same of Reagan. I remember when a book of his personal letters came out and pundits on the TV were saying what wonderful insights they gave into this wonderful guy. I read some of it and thought “What wonderful guy? I do not like this guy, at all. He is arrogant and looks down on other people. These letters give me insights into why I do not care for this man’s character and personality.” Yet, he did have some decent impulses.
Bush II could have gone with Cheney Tought all the way through his two terms. Bush II could have not proposed and funded the few half-way decent domestic programs he did.
Reagan could have decided to not deal with Gorbachev, not proposed real nuclear arms talks, could have not raised taxes after his initial supply side magic BS policy laid a turd.
So, I don’t like to type that stuff that I just did, but I think it is the truth. Does not redeem their presidencies, not nearly, not even close. But saved their administrations from complete and total disaster and mess.
divF
@schrodinger’s cat: I agree. Stalin had an out-and-out racist component (“rootless cosmopolites”) that was missing from Mao.
coin operated
@Gin & Tonic:
There’s two grades associated with that. Bush2 gets kudos for all the treatment efforts, but he stupidly tied the prevention program with abstinence education, which was a total failure here in the states and much worse in sub-Saharan Africa.
jl
@coin operated: Thanks, I forgot to mention that as evidence that Bush II had some decent impulses. Bush did back a few good foreign aid and affairs policies too, even though I agree he messed half his AIDS policy up with his goofy wingnut prevention program.
Gin & Tonic
@coin operated: I try hard to be a glass half-full kind of guy.
Tbone
@Bobby B.:
The man who’s so black, he goes to funerals naked!
Gin & Tonic
@jl: not proposed real nuclear arms talks
And then let them be cut off at the knees by the neocons, and very nearly brought the world to the brink of nuclear disaster. I’ve mentioned this here before and am probably tiresome, I know, but read up on Able Archer. We were a hair’s breadth from not existing now.
Jeffro
@Cacti: That was totally Rove’s doing…50% + 1 vote, if I recall his phrasing?
jl
@Gin & Tonic:
There should be a Stanislav Petrov prize. Rated equal or better than the Nobel Peace prize.
Reagan did sign an intermediate range nuclear weapons treaty for Europe.
And anyway, I used the word ‘impulses’ for a reason. They had a few decent impulses that saved their administrations from complete failure. That is not saying a whole lot. It does say a lot about the current GOP.
The 80s wingnuts increasingly grew enraged with Reagan towards the end of his two terms when he did not regularly fulfill their deranged fever dreams. As far as I am concerned, Reagan fulfilled far too many of them. But not all.
srv
Why is AL and everyone not talking about this terrorist?
Damn you liberal terrorist apologists.
jibeaux
I love Chris Rock so much. He gets me to laugh at things while simultaneously saying, “oh, I probably shouldn’t be laughing at this but what the hell.” His delivery is just damn good.
Yatsuno
@srv: Write to Cole demanding your money back. Use all caps. He LIVES for that shit!
skerry
Rams front office apologizes to St Louis Police Dept. for players’ “hands-up, don’t shoot” gesture before Sunday’s game.
I thought that the police complaining about and threatening the Rams was Government oppression of free speech. Where are the 1st amendment folks on this?
srv
@efgoldman: So typical, you people not taking responsibility for the terrorsists amongst you and calling them out.
Next you’ll be talking about your religion of PEACE and all that.
JordanRules
It’s the Rock!
Good stuff as usual. I hope he writes more. I want lots of books from him. And I’d love to see him and Colbert do something together.
Busy first work day after the holiday. Super spent.
Phoenix is getting ready for a shit ton of events. Weather has been fully cooperational thus far. I’m thinking we may have seen the Super Bowl preview yesterday.
Kryptik, A Man Without a Country
@skerry:
Craven shit from the Rams front office.
Yatsuno
@skerry: @Kryptik, A Man Without a Country: Read the article more: the Rams are saying they offered no apologies. So someone is lying their ass off, and I don’t trust either actor in this situation. What do?
JordanRules
@Yatsuno: Whoa, hmph, interesting update.
Poor Roger G, just when he thought he could sleep better tonight.
skerry
@Yatsuno: Interesting. That was certainly a quick denial from the Rams. Glad the article was updated. Wonder where the truth is and if anyone recorded the call.
Yatsuno
@skerry: Deadspin is pretty fast on getting those details out. But yeah, something ain’t passing the smell test for sure here.
scav
srv’s really on his lack of coherent logical thread within a single sentence game tonight. The masters of the game really make it look effortless when they’re on form.
wenchacha
I know it’s a mistake for me to read comments at anywhere but a few trusted sites, but I’ve headed down a few threads about every freaking topic, and the haters start their racist hating. And “Libs this” and “libs that” crap that is considered the intellectual height of debating.
One very good point racists make about slavery, of course, is “What about all the black people in Africa who sold other black people? Huh? What about them!” Geniuses, all. Last week it was, “How about all settlers who were killed by *Indians, huh? And Indian-on-Indian violence!”
I have to stop looking.
*Indigenous people
FlipYrWhig
@efgoldman: My money is on this: the Rams guy offered an apology as himself, not on behalf of the rams organization.
Yatsuno
@scav: Aren’t we due for a troll upgrade soon?
scav
@Yatsuno: Promises Promises. We keep calling and staying on the line for the next available representative your call is important to us. And they swear to send a repair agent out between the hours of 7 a.m. and noon on the second Thursday of the month. And we’ve tested the doorbell, it actually works. Warentees. Useless.
Yatsuno
@scav: Maybe I should keep the hyenas in the pens then…
Mnemosyne
@wenchacha:
I once got to hear a hilarious talk by American Indian author Sherman Alexie where he said he could understand most every form of enduring hatred except homophobia. After all, white people killed Indians, Indians killed white people, white people killed black people, black people killed white people, etc. etc. So there was more than enough hatred and revenge-killing to keep the whole thing going. But gay people? When was the last time you heard about a bunch of gay men riding into down and beating the crap out of people?
It was much funnier (and insightful) the way he told it, of course, but it’s stuck with me.
eemom
@Yatsuno:
Well, if you insist….Timmeh teh Oh was recently spotted on Cole’s FB page.
Violet
@eemom: Where is Cole?
lamh36
Alright, so I’ve finally narrowed down my list of cars/SUVs that I will be looking and probably purchasing in the next 2 weeks. I looked at price, consumer reviews, fuel efficiency, engine, resale and design. I also try to imagined myself in each vehicle for at least 10 years. Based on those criteria, I’ll be looking at these 4 cars/SUVs
Mazda 6, Mazda CX5, Hyundai Sonata and the Hyundai Sante Fe sport. I admit, I’m already leaning towards the Mazda6 but that Sonata is looking really good right now.
Unfortunately, I didn’t decide on any Subaru’s. I know Cole loves ’em, but I find them butt ugly…lol. Plus IDK why, but I consider them more for more “woodsy” or off road type drivers. Also too, there really wasn’t any real plethora of Subaru dealerships here in NOLA. I’ve literally only ever saw like 1 or 2 actually Subarus since I’ve moved back to NOLA.
Anyway…I’ll be going this Saturday to test drive each vehicle and then see what is the lowest pricing I can get along with the biggest trade in value. Then the week after that I’ll go and purchase the actual car.
Violet
@lamh36: Congratulations! Exciting to get a new vehicle!
My friend was trying to decide between two cars and simply couldn’t make up her mind. Her sister told her to imagine driving one of them and the other one pulls up next to her at a light. Would she feel good being in the one she chose or wish she was in the other one? That helped her make up her mind because she knew which one she’d be happiest about and she went and bought the car the next day.
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: Do you enjoy driving? If so, the Mazda6 is the best driver’s car of the ones you are looking at (and, in my opinion, by far the best looking – really elegant, BMW-like lines). The Santa Fe would probably be the most practical people and thing hauler.
srv
@lamh36: the mazda will still be pretty in 10 years and still be getting 15 better mpg.
Or you can go the famers field sculpture route.
lamh36
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m no NASCAR driver, but I do like a good car with a smooth fast as possible ride. I prefer V6 engines, but I haven’t really found a good sedan with V6 that I wanted and that wasn’t a disaster (maker wise), and there really just aren’t that many SUV available that has the look I like and the power, without all that space. I’m a single woman with no children, so an big ole SUV just makes no sense to me.
I’m leaning on that Mazda 6 cause damn if I don’t love the look, but in terms of roominess the Sonata and Sante Fe are def better. Also too, Hyundai, has probably the best warranty program of any car maker I’ve checked too, so there’s that.
I plan to schedule the test drives so that the car I really am leaning towards is the last one I test out. That way, I can build up to my favorite.
coin operated
The Obama expectation vs reality argument in a nutshell. Well said, Mr. Rock…well said.
waspuppet
A friend of mine and her husband signed up to adopt a baby, and they said they’d take any baby, even a special-needs child. Some months later, the phone rang, and they told my friend, “We have a baby for you!”
“That’s awesome!”
“Yeah, but hold on – you said you’d take a special-needs baby, and that’s who this is.”
(Gulp) “OK, yeah – so, what’s her special need?”
“She’s bi-racial.”
This was in North Carolina in 1991.
Little Boots
I dunno. lawyers. nascar. it might not be the most progressive site.
Violet
@lamh36: Just make sure you can get your niece Maddie in and out of it easily, whatever you get.
A neighbor had some sort of convertible car with a back seat. After a year or so she had to trade it in for a slightly higher off the ground sedan because she was getting older, her friends were getting older and they couldn’t get into her convertible anymore. She hadn’t thought of that when she bought it but a year or so in it became kind of apparent it wasn’t much of a car for anyone over about 50. Things like that you don’t really think about unless you take someone with you to try getting in the back seat a couple of time or putting the kid’s car seat in and out, etc.
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: I don’t know if you are aware of this shopping tool but it is useful for determining a decent price in any location. Also, I tend to get enthusiastic about cars I like, so I bring someone with me to the negotiation who will say, “Dude, fuck this; it’s too expensive, let’s walk.”
Unrelated: I watched football with my (very pale) extended family over the weekend (Woohoo, Pack!), and there wasn’t a person in the house who wasn’t vocally enthusiastic about the Rams’ players “Hands up; don’t shoot” intro.
NotMax
@lamh36
Mazda6? Solid choice. However, don’t rule out a Mazda3 iTouring model (there are various iTouring configurations). Comes in hatchback or elegant sedan with a very spacious trunk. Suggest test driving both the 6 and the 3. Monthly payments on the 3 gonna be lots lower than on the 6, too.
Also too, do check online at places such as edmunds.com – Mazda reliability reports/ratings have historically seemed significantly better than Hyundai. Also take a little time to check online reviews of the specific dealers in your area. Quite possible there’s one that’s a bit further to get to but which rates head and shoulders above a closer dealership.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: I’d have gone with F1, but I am more of a snob than lamh36.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
I don’t understand your lawyerly words.
music?
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: I have an aging Saab that I absolutely love. There were cars in its class that were roomier, but I was part of a childless couple when I bought it. The other attributes of the car over whelmed the lack of rear seat leg room. Comfortable (for you) front seats, a good sized trunk, and acceptable room for the occasions where you have multiple passengers – that’s all you may need. My advice would be to buy the one that makes you happiest when you are behind the wheel.
ETA: My brother and has wife have a Camry and a Civic and a couple of kids who need to go to soccer and basketball and play rehearsals…. Those of us who are single them and people like them the courtesy of buying fun fast cars. It ‘s your obligation.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
I ended up buying a Subaru sedan (the Impreza) but I was really impressed by the Mazda3 I drove, so you may end up liking the Mazda6 once you get behind the wheel. A lot of it has to do with how well your personal measurements fit the car, so you won’t really know how roomy it is/is not inside until you actually sit in it and start fooling around with the controls.
jibeaux
@lamh36:
new cars are fun and shopping for them is fun. I have the CX9, do a fair bit of carpooling, and it is like butter. I really, really, like that car. Husband has the 3 because he almost never has the kids and its peppy and fun. Someday we should split the difference and not have tiny car + hulking beast, but the point is we like the Mazdas.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
actually, that is very sweet and wonderful.
jibeaux
@waspuppet:
so sad! I hope that poor little moppet made the best of it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus: Those of us who are single owe them and people like them the courtesy of buying fun fast cars.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: My 13 y/o nephew digs the shit out of this singer. One wonders why…. As the cool uncle, I was able to point out to him that the singer co-wrote and sang this. I gained a lot points with the kid on that.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
XCX? Whatever happened to pronounceable names?
I blame CCH Pounder.
Also too, get offa my lawn.
normal liberal
@lamh36:
I have a Sonata, but it’s the hybrid version, which has not produced the fuel efficiency I was going for. (But I’m in Illinois, and in the time I’ve owned the hybrid we’ve had unusually cold winter temps, including this fall, which really makes the battery unhappy) Absent that, it’s a nice comfortable car, although a bit bigger than I really need.
I had a Hyundai Excel before that, which I liked, and should have replaced with another one. They have been upgraded in recent model years – have you looked at them? Mine was a hatchback and surprisingly roomy – I could put a 7+ foot Christmas tree completely inside the car and still close the hatch.
Mike J
@waspuppet:
Have you ever seen the year by year charts for approval of interracial marriage? It didn’t break 50% until the mid 90s.
That site isn’t broken down by state or region, but one can make some educated guesses about where it was slowest in gaining approval.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
see. lucky nephew.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: I don’t have a lawn to order people off of. It keeps me young.
Violet
@Omnes Omnibus: I just caught a few moments today of someone on one of the morning TV shows talking about how that singer’s recent single was inspired by The Ramones.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Past, say, 55 or so we all develop a metaphorical lawn. And add more square footage to it each year.
Little Boots
we need more omnes,
but we really need more steeplejack.
NotMax
@Little Boots
Maybe Tomorrow Night.
(Just as an aside, a rock group in the running for band with the least aggregate percentage of body fat.)
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: I haven’t hit 55 yet; I have preferences that don’t include those of the kids.. I just won’t automatically denounce their preferences as shit. Some new stuff is good. Some sucks. Same as it ever was… Same as it ever was….
@Violet: She seems to be trying. Decent voice. Writes her own stuff. Doesn’t rely on Autotune. I’ll give her credit.
Violet
@NotMax: According to Wikipedia her name is the MSN Messenger screen name she used “when she was younger.” She’s ancient these days at the age of 22. Practically a relic.
Omnes Omnibus
You don’t remember those days?
Schlemazel
Having not been a paragon of virtue as a kid (proud to say never indited, never caught!) I am not big on dragging past teen activities up as an attack, but this one has a sweetness about it that I just can’t resist.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Elizabeth-Lauten-arrest-786543
The smoking gun found that Liz Lauten might of had a bit of a problem showing the proper respect for other people stuff/
Little Boots
nice. there is a problem here.
NotMax
@Violet
As Marryin’ Sam says to Daisy Mae while she’s singing “Ah’m PAst My Prime” – “Well, you is pushin’ 18.”
@Omnes Omnibus
Wasn’t dissing the music, just the name.
Violet
@Omnes Omnibus: I don’t know enough about her to have much of an opinion. I do think the Icona Pop song is catchy.
Violet
@Omnes Omnibus: Which days?
Little Boots
oh, good lord, people.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: The music is easy to dismiss. Contemporary pop. Better than some, but not pushing any boundaries. The name? Who really cares? My parents were friends with artists who were known as the Hairy Who. Who am I to judges names?
Little Boots
fine, karma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Isn’t she one of those who emerged from social media a la Bieber?
Mnemosyne
@Violet:
You mean someone other than U2 wrote a song about the Ramones?
(I like the song, but I’ve never claimed to have much taste in music.)
Omnes Omnibus
@Violet: The days when 22 seemed oldish…. Here is the same artist (of age) doing a alt pop classic (originally done by an underage girl). I always try to remember being a kid. I know I am long past it, but I try, as much as I can, to remain open to what is new.
@NotMax: Not as far as I know.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Think it was xanga or myspace or someplace like that.
Violet
@Omnes Omnibus: I was really just poking fun at the Wikipedia entry that talked about her name that she used “when she was younger” and she’s only 22. Apparently she started performing at 14 or 15 so she really was young.
I do remember being a kid when someone even one year or grade level older seemed old. Let alone if you’re 18 and someone’s 22. Ancient! When you’re younger there is so much life experience between, say 18 and 22. The same difference between 38 and 42 isn’t as significant.
@Mnemosyne: I guess so. I really just heard it in passing on some morning TV show. Caught my ear because the woman mentioned The Ramones.
Villago Delenda Est
@jl: FDR saved the rich from their just reward: the gallows.
For that, the rich have hated him since his Presidency. For saving them from justice.
Eradicate the parasites of the 1%.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: That may be the case. Nevertheless, a poptart who is involved in the writing of her stuff, can sing without autotune, and references the Ramones… I’ll take her.
Little Boots
omnes, can I do the weight thing?
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Yes, but only if it isn’t the version from “The Last Waltz.”
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
it is, and you are so bitter sometimes:
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=Lkry&hsimp=yhs-SF01&p=the%20weight%20the%20last%20waltz&type=YHS_SF_2200¶m1=iyzTqxyuayxkXZEXjiqI44smW9UdeThDjBlbfLknSTRZdOdFxjgUcBiGiLgpnMao0_Az7Sw_uUdZCp0HiLdXiLF2f4TtVix5brQzDqYHLru0lnxx7eEzNUX2nsy_7k-QSA%2c%2c
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Dude, bad link. Besides that, if you are going to post a recording of that song, post one where Levon Helms gets the credit he deserves.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
nothing is working for me tonight.
Little Boots
i am going to try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwaxT7zL7kA
Little Boots
so, basically, omnes is wrong.
Little Boots
cause, needed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joo90ZWrUkU
Little Boots
and this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joo90ZWrUkU
Little Boots
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmOe27SJ3Yc
BillinGlendaleCA
During my walk today, I ran into some snow flurries.
Amir Khalid
@Little Boots:
For you, a working man’s song. As the singer explains,
rikyrah
Chris Rock is always on point.
RSA
@Violet:
Hey, that’s a great trick. Not that I’ll be needing a new car for a very long time, I hope, but I like it.
mainmati
@Gin & Tonic: I might agree with you but, for the most part, PEPFAR has consisted mainly of a giant commodity buy from Big Pharma. Far less attention was paid to the social and institutional changes to effect prevention.
Aardvark Cheeselog
@jl: 116 comments and nobody’s pointed out that Nixon was at least as much a “screw everybody who voted for the other guy” Pres as anybody since?
Bobby Thomson
@Yatsuno: You have to make sure your settings download the patch automatically.
Bobby Thomson
@Mike J:
Yep. I can remember getting into an argument with someone about that sometime around 1994. In the underlying argument, he said “a majority of Americans supports [whatever it is we were arguing about].” I pointed out that a majority also approved anti-miscegenation laws, and he and others thought I was making that up.