Bad as Ebola is, I’m kinda fascinated by the stats on Lassa in this article. Only 84% of those sick enough to be hospitalized die — that seems pretty serious to me. Gina Kolata, in the NYTimes, on the scientists “Sifting Through Genes in Search of Answers… “:
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — An old two-story brick building in a shabby part of town, formerly a distribution center for Budweiser beer, is now the world’s most powerful factory for analyzing genes from people and viruses.
And it is a factory. At any given time, 10,000 tiny test tubes each holding a few drops of gene-containing fluid are being processed by six technicians, working 24 hours a day, 365 days a year — two on the night shift — using 50 dishwasher-sized machines in two large rooms…
It is all in service of researchers who work for the Broad Institute, a gleaming, lavishly endowed genetics center a few blocks away. The sequencing center has worked on human DNA from an international effort, the 1,000 Genomes Project, that looks at the genes of thousands of people from around the world. It has gotten sequences of microbes, like dengue fever, malaria and West Nile virus. It has gotten genetic sequences from animals like chimpanzees.
And it is here that Broad scientists studying Ebola and a similar deadly disease, Lassa, send their samples, taking advantage of what the center’s manager, Andrew J. Hollinger, referred to as superfast track sequencing in their urgent work on these diseases ravaging West Africa. Those scientists receive their sequence data in about 40 hours, compared with days for the usual work.
The Ebola and Lassa group, led by Pardis Sabeti, wants to know what the viruses look like. Do they mutate while they are infecting people, possibly evading the immune system? Are some strains more deadly than others? And what about the genetics of the people who are infected? Are some people more resistant, perhaps even immune, to these viruses because of tweaks in their own genes?….
Baud
Election’s over. You can stop all the Ebola fear-mongering, AL.
Villago Delenda Est
Gina Kolata?
Did her parents meet for the second time via the personals or something, and she was given that name to memorialize it?
Omnes Omnibus
@Villago Delenda Est: They got caught in the rain.
Villago Delenda Est
@Omnes Omnibus: Conceived at the dunes on the cape, no doubt.
srv
Ebola is so 2014.
Mike in NC
Wait, didn’t we all die from Ebola last month? Media said so, so it must be true.
srv
Who needs Ebola when you have Henry?
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/revealed-thirty-years-on-the-secret-role-that-americas-henry-kissinger-played-in-the-.26048852
MomSense
@Villago Delenda Est:
They had too much champagne.
BR
@Baud:
Um, are you serious or kidding? The virus is still raging on in West Africa. Just because the U.S. media hyped it and then dropped it doesn’t mean it was going to kill everyone instantly in October any more than it’s harmless now.
Anne Laurie
@Baud: Call me a pandemic connoisseur. I’m fascinated by stuff, like Lassa, that kills “tens, possibly hundreds, of thousands of people” even when those people aren’t Americans… yet…
Pogonip
Is anyone besides me familiar with Berton Roueche’s Medical Detectives articles?
Little Boots
Lassa’s just not gonna cut it in the scary department. sounds like you find it in a well.
JoyfulA
@Pogonip: The articles that used to run in the New Yorker? If so, yes, I do. They were always interesting.
Baud
@BR:
I’m going to let you noodle over that question tonight. Ask me again tomorrow if you’re still flummoxed.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Noodle as a verb and flummoxed showing up in the same comment, that is awesome.
BR
@Anne Laurie:
If I remember correctly the reason Lassa is less of a risk than Ebola is that it has been resolved in the past by letting cats take care of the mouse population. I think there are several hemorrhagic fevers like one from Bolivia that are spread by mice, and have been solved by releasing cats. More evidence that cats are awesome.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
500 scrabble points.
Little Boots
sleepy time at the balloon.
Elmo
@Little Boots: everybody’s watching my Chargers.
and everybody is in shock that apparently in today’s NFL you can take out the punter with impunity. roughing the kicker? What’s that?
Little Boots
@Elmo:
these are words, i know. but I do not understand these words. what is this NFL?
Elmo
@Little Boots:
An arcane ritual, under which lower- and middle-class working people experience vicarious joy and sorrow over 22 rich young men and an oblong ball.
Little Boots
@Elmo:
okay, I grok
Elmo
@Little Boots: mostly I think the vicarious participants feel the events more keenly sometimes than the rich young men. They are after all getting paid, but the poor sufferers like me are only in it for the ritual.
Roger Moore
@Elmo:
There’s no roughing if the player blocks the punt or kick. It’s really tough in a case like that one, but those are the rules.
Little Boots
@Roger Moore:
yup, totally getting it now, elmo.
Elmo
@Roger Moore: has that always been the rule? Because I swear I have always flinched when my guys go for the block, lest they accidentally run into the kicker. And I’m not a casual fan – I know the rules pretty well, and so does my wife. And both of us were just in shock and horrified.
Omnes Omnibus
@Elmo: If you touch the ball at all, contact with the punter is perfectly legal. So it has ever been.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
why does that sound so dirty?
Elmo
@Omnes Omnibus: thanks.
Weird. I’m usually one of those people in the bar explaining illegal motion (can’t move forward before the snap) and the significance of five yards past the line of scrimmage. But I did not know that.
Damn.
ThalarctosMaritimus
@Pogonip:
Oh, yes.
I loved those stories in my (admittedly Wednesday Addams-like) childhood.
You’ve reminded me to see if my library has the books. Thanks!
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: In your mind. Mine is, of course, pure.
@Elmo: It is part of the risk/reward calculus. I will note that, from my perspective as an former rugby player, blocking a punt hurts. On occasion the ball hit me in the face and then I collided with the boot of the guy who was punting. Then the whole falling face first on the ground thing happened. Ouch.
Elmo
@Omnes Omnibus: ow
Mike J
I normally find Will Ferrell to be one of the least funny people on the face of the earth (although not as unfunny as Adam Sandler), but Elf has got to be one of the best xmasers ever made. Pity that the Zooey Deschanel in the shower scene doesn’t deliver.
Omnes Omnibus
@Elmo: But I blocked the punt so it was cool.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J:
Doesn’t deliver what?
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
“On occasion the ball hit me in the face and then I collided with the boot of the guy who was punting.”
well this explains so much.
Mike J
@Omnes Omnibus: Something for my package? Basically, I would like to look at her naked. That would be the best xmas evar.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: Ah… Blame the need for a PG-13 rating.
@Little Boots: My nose remained unbroken throughout my rugby career; it bled on occasions but it didn’t break.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
uh, huh, that’s the issue here.
Okay, might be a little happy about the nose.
Mike J
@Omnes Omnibus:
You did better than me in my co-ed flag football career. It was impressive. Not just displaced cartilage, an actual break of the nasal bone.
Little Boots
everyone look at bruce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129kuDCQtHs
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: My primary injury type was a series of left ankle sprains paired with the occasional right ankle sprain.
ETA: Taping worked.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
uh huh, do go on.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: That’s it.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
oh, for that story? okay. thought … nevermind.
did you look at bruce?
Roger Moore
@Elmo:
Sure; it’s a high risk play. If you almost block it but don’t quite get a piece of it, you’re very likely to hit the kicker, and you’ll be lucky to get away with “running into” rather than “roughing”. Not to mention that there’s a high risk of injury whether or not you get a piece of the ball.
Mnemosyne
@Mike J:
I’m not sure how you expected a shower scene to pay off in a PG-rated family film, but I’m not sure I want to know. ;-) I like that scene, especially the conversation afterwards. Elf is probably my favorite modern Christmas movie, especially since it leans so heavily on one of my favorite classics, Miracle on 34th Street, while being completely its own movie.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: What else did you want? The story of my ACL surgery years later? That wasn’t due to rugby. I blame skiing and parachuting.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
good lord, would you just stay on the ground. and I am actually glad to know the nose is okay. is everything else?
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: The knee was repaired. I have been advised the marathon running may not be compatible with the lack of cartilage in my left knee, but otherwise it works just fine.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
well, okay then.
Little Boots
I’m not a doctor, as they say, but I bet you have another marathon in you. have no idea what I’m talking about, but …. I bet you do.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: I bought a bicycle for a reason.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
heh, good.
Little Boots
no omnes. no steeplejack. no music. oh, well.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Dude, I have been talking to you. OTOH, I am going to bed soon.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m needy. sometimes annoyingly so.
Little Boots
I need everyone up all night.
steeplejack?
Little Boots
and now, just because:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_Fdly3rX8
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots:
Duh.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
oh, don’t yell at me.
I am though.
Villago Delenda Est
@srv: Kissinger is striving to become the most successful war criminal to evade justice across two centuries.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Mnemosyne: Elf is an amazing film. Newhart is so Newhart. Asner is great as Santa. Caan is so unlikable and Scrooge-like, but in a way that we all (I think) can relate rather than just being a cartoon. Zooey is a treat. Ferrell steals the show, but is so genuine about it. It’s like the camera isn’t there.
Every time I see it I get genuinely teary-eyed. It’s endearing and touching without being schmaltzy and a really nice way to remember that feeling. Amélie does that for me, also too.
Cheers,
Scott.
AnonPhenom
@Anne Laurie:
et al…
This is one of the most fascinating areas of medicine today. Testing of patients for genetic phenotype is often standard practice today. In fact, failing to do so (as in the case of starting therapy with the antiretroviral abacavir to determine response or potentially fatal toxicity associated with the HLA-B5701 marker) is now seen by many as medical malpractice.
J R in WV
@Elmo:
If I recall correctly, the penalty for roughing the kicker only comes into play if you don’t block the kick. Since the Patriot player got the ball, he is allowed to
kill hurtinjure the kicker, if necessary or desirable.Perhaps that rule should be revisited?
Bob In Portland
From the CDC: