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You are here: Home / Music / Thursday Evening Open Thread: World’s Tiniest Fiddle

Thursday Evening Open Thread: World’s Tiniest Fiddle

by Anne Laurie|  December 11, 20146:03 pm| 146 Comments

This post is in: Music, Open Threads, Vagina Outrage

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(Warning: possibly traumatic “role reversal” images beginning ca. 1:00 mark)

Amazing how some big tough bro-country dudes can have such tender, woundable fee-fees. Per the Washington Post:

“Girl in a Country Song,” the breakout first single from duo Maddie & Tae, just hit No. 1 on the Mediabase and Billboard country airplay charts this week. It’s cause for a lot of folks to cheer: For Maddie Marlow and Tae Dye, enjoying a triumphant debut before either turns 20. For Big Machine president Scott Borchetta, who signed the unknown pair this year to his new imprint Dot Records. And for anyone sick of “bro country,” the massively dominant sub-genre that celebrates endless streams of ice cold beer, those rambling dirt roads to the old swimming hole and hot girls with long, tan legs dangling off of the back of truck tailgates…

But despite the critical acclaim, one group is definitely not laughing about the success of “Girl in a Country Song”: The alpha bros themselves.

It makes sense that the male artists referenced in “Girl in a Country Song” (Blake Shelton, Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, Tyler Farr, Thomas Rhett, Cole Swindell, Florida Georgia Line, etc.) might not be thrilled to be the subject of mockery… When the song dropped, the bros were tellingly silent amid the waves of hype, if not downright annoyed. Asked about the song by the Chicago Tribune, Florida Georgia Line’s Brian Kelley claimed he didn’t know what the interviewer was talking about. When asked further, he got snippy. “All I’m gonna say about that is, I don’t know one girl who doesn’t want to be a girl in a country song,” Kelley said. “That’s all I’m gonna say to you. That’s it.”…

– Luke Bryan told ABC News the term was “aggravating and derogatory”: “Yeah, do I sing about a truck and a beer on one song, but then do I sing about a completely different subject matter. I mean, listen to the whole album and don’t judge me on one song.”

– Tyler Farr: “A lot of my friends sing the new stuff, what they call bro-country. I mean, whatever. I have no clue what it is and whoever invented that term, I’d like to smack him upside the head.”…

– Sam Hunt: “I don’t know if the phrase originally was meant to be derogatory but it’s turned into that. It’s sort of a snobby thing to say.”…

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Apart from (entirely failing at) feeling sorry for a bunch of young dudes with money, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Cue the rise of dudebro Klezmer.

  2. 2.

    kindness

    December 11, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Cute song. Yea I’m the oddball NY 70’s rock kid that liked country too.

  3. 3.

    Hal

    December 11, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    Florida Georgia Line

    Yeesh. That’s a terrible name for a band.

    – Luke Bryan told ABC News the term was “aggravating and derogatory”: “Yeah, do I sing about a truck and a beer on one song, but then do I sing about a completely different subject matter. I mean, listen to the whole album and don’t judge me on one song.”

    Luke Bryan, ‘Crash My Party’ Track Listing:
    1. ‘That’s My Kind Of Night’
    2. ‘Beer In The Headlights’
    3. ‘Crash My Party’
    4. ‘Roller Coaster’
    5. ‘We Run This Town’
    6. ‘Drink a Beer’
    7. ‘I See You’
    8. ‘Goodbye Girl’
    9. ‘Play It Again’
    10. ‘Blood Brothers’
    11. ‘Out Like That’
    12. ‘Shut It Down’
    13. ‘Dirt Road Diary’

  4. 4.

    Hungry Joe

    December 11, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Re ridiculing male pop-country singers: Isn’t it illegal under the Hat Act?

  5. 5.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    @Hal: I can’t believe he doesn’t cover “The Sound of Silence” given that he has so many other contemplative songs.

    Stupid music for idiots would be a better name for that shit.

  6. 6.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    I read those lyrics and, uh, some good ole boys are gonna be driving that extended cab with duallies to one of Rick Scott’s clinic to get a script for prescription strength relief for that burn.

  7. 7.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    When asked further, he got snippy. “All I’m gonna say about that is, I don’t know one girl who doesn’t want to be a girl in a country song,” Kelley said. “That’s all I’m gonna say to you. That’s it.”…

    I don’t doubt that for a minute, fella. You might want to consider broadening your circle of broads.

    I giggled at the strawberry-eating and car-washing scenes.

  8. 8.

    Carzy

    December 11, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    What happens if someone doesn’t enroll in the ACA before the deadline? (Family member; freak.) They’re just out of luck? If they get sick after the open enrollment, they’re back in ‘go bankrupt’ territory?

  9. 9.

    Tree With Water

    December 11, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    Those bro’s wouldn’t have lasted three rounds with Grace Slick.

  10. 10.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    @efgoldman: I really do love klezmer, though.

  11. 11.

    scav

    December 11, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    @shortstop: Mr. Chubby had several fine moves.

  12. 12.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    @shortstop: OT. Have you been to the new La Colombe yet? You could get soup and a cortado! I love my ‘hood.

    I just realized that I did not invite you to the reading I did at Dollop down your way a few weeks ago. Shizzam.

  13. 13.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    @shortstop: All good-hearted people love Klezmer.

  14. 14.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    @Hal: Their name is apparently not the worst thing about them:

    http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/florida-georgia-lines-anything-goes-is-the-worst-album-in-the-history-of-country-music

    Everyone I know who listens to country thinks they suck. I found it amusing that they were asked to play at the Florida-Georgia game (in Jacksonville), but nobody else did because they think Florida Georgia Line sucks.

    Maybe they’re popular in Montana or something.

  15. 15.

    Keith G

    December 11, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    There are more interesting pop culture topics out there. Many, many more.

  16. 16.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    @BGinCHI: Whaaaaat? Thassmy coffee house! Lit’rally round the corner! I would’ve come, you know!

    I did go to Colombe after getting my increasing number of gray hairs colored, er, my tresses cut, and I liked it a lot.

  17. 17.

    Mike in NC

    December 11, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Back in the 80s we used to hang out at a bar in Maine where you could hear both kinds of music: Country AND Western!

  18. 18.

    skerry

    December 11, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    Non-country music story (since this is an open thread)…This afternoon, I was visiting my friend who is in a rehab facility and the press conference with Brennan was on the TV. A doctor came into the room to check on my friend. She asked what was on the TV. I told her. She said, “excuse me, but I think some people just need to be tortured.” I asked her how she reconciled that view with the Hippocratic oath and “do no harm”. She just glared at me and put her stethoscope tubes in her ears and said nothing more about it.

    I have to say I was shocked to hear a doctor say that.

  19. 19.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    @Keith G: And when you start your own blog, the League of Professional Contrarians, you can discuss each one of them at finger-wagging length.

  20. 20.

    Pogonip

    December 11, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    I have a question for the legal beagles. Why can’t Justice arrest tea bagging Congresscritters when they bring the government to a halt? Isn’t deliberately stopping the government from functioning sedition?

  21. 21.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    @shortstop: Fucking stupid of me. It went really well. No garbage or vegetables thrown at me.

    Next time I’ll remember.

    La Colombe is great. Bakery expanding too.

  22. 22.

    Taylor

    December 11, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    Good for these girls. I live in north central florida and am sick to death of modern pop-country — it’s impossible to avoid no matter where you go.

  23. 23.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    @Pogonip: Um, no.

  24. 24.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    @BGinCHI: Don’t believe everything you hear about Uptown. We rarely throw garbage. Rats make better missiles.

  25. 25.

    JPL

    December 11, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    Who is Luke Bryan?

    @skerry: If torture is ineffective, how does she feel about sadistic acts? It doesn’t surprise me though because Americans tend to be violent people. It’s our nature and for anyone to say otherwise, is wrong. Look at the polls. Obama said when referring to torture, that’s not who we are. Unfortunately, polls and the good doc prove otherwise.

  26. 26.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    @shortstop: Rat-throwing was the next night. Luckily.

    That’s a nice cafe. Shit parking though.

  27. 27.

    JPL

    December 11, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    @Pogonip: When is the house going to vote? MSM will blame the dems for not supporting Wall Street.

  28. 28.

    ruemara

    December 11, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    @skerry: Ben Carson. Doctor. Wingnut Favourite Black Friend. Bill Frist. Doctor. Wingnut

    My dentist. Doctor. Wingnut gun freak. They’re as human as the rest of us.

  29. 29.

    Tree With Water

    December 11, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    @skerry: One of these days, google ‘doctors in nazi Germany’. An appalling percentage of MD’s in Germany were party members.

  30. 30.

    SatanicPanic

    December 11, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    Haha that’s pretty funny. Country shoving women to the back fits in pretty well with the hard right turn it’s taken in the last ten years or so. It was always conservative, but now I can’t turn on the station without hearing something about soldiers or Jesus every other song.

  31. 31.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    I think this is a takedown of the song referenced in the OP:

    http://www.wattpad.com/19137490-a-lyrical-dissection-of-cruise-by-florida-georgia

    (it’s a stupid website, you must click on “start reading”)

  32. 32.

    Keith G

    December 11, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    @shortstop: It’s a blog comment section, Dear One. Comments get to be made, both your precious ones and my base ones. I will continue to read your precious additions and you are welcome to ignore my typing. It’s really not all that, but I am sure my feedback won’t wilt the tuff as nails Anne Laurie.

  33. 33.

    CB

    December 11, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    I hate this and everything it represents and it’s sing song mix and match garbage and god dammit I watched the whole thing twice now and can’t turn it off and I think I’m in love. My brain hurts.

  34. 34.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    @BGinCHI: This big secret I geev to you: There’s always something on Hutchinson or Buena. Or pay $8 to park in the Disney lot, or take the 146 like door to door.

    See, my neighborhood’s cool, huh? You’re always trying to put me up at like Wilson and I’m down here where the birds sing and people hum happily as they trot along.

  35. 35.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    @Keith G: I wish you were as happy as you used to be. I worry that something terrible happened. Peace.

  36. 36.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    @SatanicPanic: I can’t pretend I was ever much of a country fan but I did dabble in some old school stuff because all the cool gays were into it. Those old forlorn love ballads had something completely lacking in country today. Maybe it was soul.

    TBF, a lot of the old stuff was highly problematic. Like a Fox on the Run is incredibly misogynistic and sounds like the journal scribblings of someone about to commit murder suicide:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX9EqHmlbLU

  37. 37.

    guachi

    December 11, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    Blake Shelton, Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, Tyler Farr, Thomas Rhett, Cole Swindell

    I swear, all those names have to be fake. It’s like some bad list of character names from a Soap Opera.

  38. 38.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    @Tree With Water: An appalling number of doctors in Nazi Germany were Jews who were restricted from moving to the US, both by racist laws in Germany that financially penalized families that looked to emigrate and by racist laws championed by AMA in the US that barred German doctors from practicing in the US even though their medical bonafides were better than the Americans’. They didn’t want the competition. Hurrah, AMA, misery and death!

  39. 39.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 11, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    I was raised on classic outlaw country and sure, some Garth Brooks here and there in the later years (Sevens is good, there I said it). I hate what happened to the genre and am so happy to see this and that Follow Your Arrow song getting recognition.

  40. 40.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    @ruemara: I used to have some wingnut doctors but I fired their asses. It’s bad enough having to listen to that shit, but when you’re in a paper gown and have no chance of storming out with dignity…

  41. 41.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    @ruemara: doctors are sometimes targeted in financial scams because they get Linus Pauling disease and think they are geniuses at All The Things

  42. 42.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    @Pogonip: Sounds like an excellent principle. Nothing could go wrong.

  43. 43.

    jl

    December 11, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    Not much of a country fan, just listen to whatever I hear that I like. So, not much interested in country beer songs. I tend to stick with the Bakersfield sound. And Dolly Parton.

    Spent a few minutes checking power outage maps so I can be confident that I am not misleading people when I denounce the SF Bay area public utility Peculation Greed and Explosion as the worst public utility ever, at least in Northern California.

  44. 44.

    Taylor

    December 11, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    This song gets me every time.

  45. 45.

    geg6

    December 11, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    @Another Holocene Human:

    LOL, good one. Perfect.

  46. 46.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    @shortstop: It’s nice up by Wilson.

    Who doesn’t love a street named after Flip Wilson?

  47. 47.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 11, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    @jl: at least they aren’t ConEd.

  48. 48.

    Mr. Twister

    December 11, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Relevant: http://gawker.com/proof-that-every-country-music-song-this-year-was-exact-1488547290

  49. 49.

    Big ole hound

    December 11, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    @skerry: Torture is what docs do. Make people as miserable as possible for as long as they can before declaring them cured enough to make the next appointment.

  50. 50.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    @BGinCHI: I have nothing against Wilson. Too tough to live there, though, even for me. Too many visible guns on the street once you step out of Target’s sheltering red light.

  51. 51.

    SatanicPanic

    December 11, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: I listened to country radio in the 80s with my dad and I can’t remember it being this lame. Randy Travis, George Strait, Dwight Yoakam.. not great (except for Dwight, Dwight is awesome) but not so off-putting as these guys.

  52. 52.

    Hal

    December 11, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    @skerry: People are so brave taking such a hard line position on torture. So, so brave. As long as they don’t have to hear about it, see it, or discuss. A friend of mine posted something on Facebook the other day about how she was totally ok with torture because hey, if it keeps is safe and prevents other attacks why not?

    Her only issue was that she did not need to know the details, ok? Why even release the report, and if torture is so effective just keep doing it. So obviously she did not actually read, or know what the report was about, just went with the tribal response of America! Fist pump!

    If people really have no issues with torture, then they should have no problems hearing about it in detail. If those details make them uncomfortable, then that should tell them something about the realities of torture.

  53. 53.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    @jl:

    I denounce the SF Bay area public utility Peculation Greed and Explosion as the worst public utility ever

    They fired Scott Adams, also, too, allowing him to spend more time with his internet connection and regale the world with his theories about global warming and evolution.

  54. 54.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    I’m so angry at Michael Hayden right now that I can’t even concentrate on commenting on crappy country music.

    What an awful, terrible, disgusting human being.

    There aren’t enough pitchforks in hell for that motherfucker.

  55. 55.

    SatanicPanic

    December 11, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    @Another Holocene Human: If I couldn’t deal with some sexist music I’d have to stop listening to rap and most rock and roll, but there’s only so much “I teach my kids to love Jesus and America” music I can listen to. That’s like 40% of country right now. I don’t know if it makes me a bad person to admit that I find those things more offensive, whatever, I don’t care.

  56. 56.

    Mike G

    December 11, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Yeah, do I sing about a truck and a beer on one song, but then do I sing about a completely different subject matter.

    Yeah, there’s the song about the girl, the song about the truck, the song about the beer, and the song about the girl in the truck full of beer.

  57. 57.

    jl

    December 11, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    ‘Fascinating’ is not the first word that came to my mind, but interesting post on TPM blog today. An interview with James Mitchell, who(m?) TPM says was one of the architects of the CIA torture policy

    Fascinating
    TPM Dec 11, 2014

    ‘ Fascinating interview with the guy who literally taught the CIA how to torture. ‘

    ‘ he reacts to the intelligence committee’s findings that torture had not yielded actionable intelligence. It wasn’t supposed to, he says. It was supposed to make detainees more responsive to other questioning.’

    ‘ Mitchell continues. “I would be stunned if they found any kind of evidence that EITs, as they were being applied, yielded actionable intelligence.” ‘

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/fascinating–10

  58. 58.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    @Hal: That’s it, tribalism, America #1 by any means necessary

    but you can’t look at the details, that might shake your America #1 belief

    and then you can’t feel good by replacing that doubt and deadness at your core with tribalistic feelings of belonging, glory, and worth

    uh-oh. Uh. Oh.

  59. 59.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    @SatanicPanic: I realized there was a problem when the fiddle stopped being a stock instrument.

  60. 60.

    BGinCHI

    December 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    @Mike G: As Beckett said, “no symbols where none intended.”

  61. 61.

    skerry

    December 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    @BGinCHI: I can neither confirm nor deny that I once spilled a bowl of chili on him.

  62. 62.

    Frankensteinbeck

    December 11, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    @skerry:
    Some groups actively court them, but there are assholes in EVERY group.

  63. 63.

    JDM

    December 11, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Nice to see that young male country still means whiny and pissy. (I’m so old I still remember when country men meant George Jones and Roy Clark.)

  64. 64.

    KG

    December 11, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    @Pogonip: federal law defining sedition 18 USC 2384:

    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    Not passing a budget is not an act of force, so it’s not sedition. It is a political dispute. And really, that’s not a road you want to go down… Because it is a small step from “not passing a budget” is sedition to “not passing a law the president wants” is sedition.

  65. 65.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    @SatanicPanic: I did like that one song in praise of the single mom. It wasn’t overly Jesus-y.

    The religious stuff on rural radio has always been horrible (about fear pain death control shame shame shame fear control) but there’s something contemptible about the not-so-fundy evangelical Xtianity-as-brand movement where it’s all about slogans with maybe a little Jesus magic and prosperity gospel sprinkled in.

    Like those horrible t-shirts with brand logos redrawn as Jesus advertisements. I mean … isn’t that kind of blasphemous?

  66. 66.

    The Other Chuck

    December 11, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    @Tree With Water:

    An appalling percentage of MD’s in Germany were party members.

    Probably close to 100% since party membership was required to hold any kind of professional license.

  67. 67.

    Mike J

    December 11, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Pop music, either the nasal Nashville variety or the more mainstream, is universally stupid. That’s not always a bad thing. I love a lot of stupid songs. But don’t act shocked when you find turds in a sewer.

  68. 68.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    @skerry: well played. Did it wipe that smirk off his face for five seconds?

  69. 69.

    skerry

    December 11, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    @JDM: I had a great-uncle who played in Buck Owens band. They weren’t whiny and pissy, but they did sparkle a lot.

  70. 70.

    Pogonip

    December 11, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    @KG: Thanks! I figured there was a reason, but I couldn’t think of what it was.

  71. 71.

    KG

    December 11, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    @SatanicPanic: about the only country music I listen to these days is Jimmy Buffett, but I’m not sure where he fits on the country/rock/pop spectrum anymore. I have some Johnny Cash and maybe one or two other random country songs on my playlists, but that’s about it. Occasionally, I get in the mood for Outlaw Country on Sirius, which is fun but doesn’t have much of the Jesus and America stuff. Been mostly in a Blues groove lately, which is where the good stuff is anyway.

  72. 72.

    JMG

    December 11, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    The lack of talent in the assembled musicians being mocked speaks for itself. There have been many, many great songs about drinking in country music history. Well over 90 percent were songs about serious pain, not tailgating at the SEC game of the week.

  73. 73.

    JPL

    December 11, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    Does anyone know what is going on with the spending bill?

  74. 74.

    KG

    December 11, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    @Pogonip: de nada. fun thing though, looking at the plain language of the law, all those idiots at the Bundy Ranch could have been brought up on charges of sedition (or at least conspiracy)

  75. 75.

    skerry

    December 11, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    @shortstop: Unpossible.

  76. 76.

    Pogonip

    December 11, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    @JDM: Yesterday, when I was young…

  77. 77.

    Tree With Water

    December 11, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    @JPL: I just got through looking for an update- nope, still hanging fire. House deems are pissed at the WH, and I for one hope they torpedo it.

  78. 78.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    @JMG: I’m pretty sure Gators fans were feeling some serious pain this year, fa fa!

  79. 79.

    Another Holocene Human

    December 11, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    @Tree With Water: It’s House Dems or the TP caucus, pick one Boehner because we don’t have all year.

  80. 80.

    Baud

    December 11, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    @Another Holocene Human:

    Boehner picks bourbon.

  81. 81.

    Iowa Old Lady

    December 11, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    For the cat lovers at BJ, here’s a cat purr generator. It’s actually quite soothing.

    http://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/catPurrNoiseGenerator.php?c=0&l=30375040495841222023

  82. 82.

    shelley

    December 11, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Classic Bro-Country. The Georgia Satellites, “Keep Your Hands To Yourself.”

  83. 83.

    JPL

    December 11, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    @Tree With Water: They should be mad.

  84. 84.

    Starfish

    December 11, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    It was better when Shania Twain did it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLXayD6e8

  85. 85.

    Baud

    December 11, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    @Starfish:

    Everything is better when Shania Twain does it.

  86. 86.

    Pogonip

    December 11, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    @shortstop: Screw that shit. Why would I want to be the girl in the country song, freezing in Daisys, when I could don a false beard and be the guy dancing with a bottle on his head?

    And when did country singers lose their sense of humor? That’s the genre that came up with songs like “You’re The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly.”

  87. 87.

    Pogonip

    December 11, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    @JPL: It’s not one minute till midnight yet, so probably nothing has happened.

  88. 88.

    Amir Khalid

    December 11, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    @Pogonip:
    Those English lyrics are by Herbert Kretzmer, who also did the lyrics for a number of other Charles Aznavour hits that Aznavour re-recorded in English. And who also wrote so hauntingly of “dreams that cannot be, and … storms we cannot weather” for a musical based on a famous French novel.

  89. 89.

    Pogonip

    December 11, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    @Mike G: You forgot the song about the beer in the truck full of girls.

  90. 90.

    JPL

    December 11, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    @Pogonip: My two cents is Boehner will get the votes and there will not be enough dems in the senate to stop it. This is the best time that the President has to say he will not bail out banks again and refuse to sign it. It won’t happen though.

  91. 91.

    Anne Laurie

    December 11, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    @guachi:

    I swear, all those names have to be fake. It’s like some bad list of character names from a Soap Opera.

    Or it could just be they were born to families from the Anglo-Saxon/Celtic tradition. I remember some Bagginses and Proudfoots being less than thrilled about that hippy professor’s stupid fantasy pulp paperback back in the late 1960s — Tolkien took the hobbit names straight from the Domesday Book, IIRC.

  92. 92.

    Eric S.

    December 11, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    Philosophy Night at the local bar! Tonight’s topic, Do we have a right to privacy?

    The only thing guaranteed to be settled for tonight is the tab.

  93. 93.

    Mike J

    December 11, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    @shelley:

    Classic Bro-Country. The Georgia Satellites, “Keep Your Hands To Yourself.”

    Nah. They’re ok. He asked, she said no. If anything it put forward the idea that a woman isn’t required to be sexually available 24/7, even if the guy doesn’t like it.

    In a true bro country song he would have been telling his friends about how he nailed her even after she said no.

  94. 94.

    jl

    December 11, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Not a big DiFi fan, but she is on the CIA BS via twitter. Which is good.

    Feinstein Live-Tweets Fact Check Of CIA Chief’s Speech On Torture Report
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/feinstein-fact-check-brennan-cia-torture

  95. 95.

    David Fud

    December 11, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    @skerry: You shouldn’t be. Two psychologists basically reverse engineered the whole torture program. They have gotten away with it, too, as has everyone else involved. It is deeply rooted in our society, unfortunately.

  96. 96.

    jl

    December 11, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    DiFi twitter tweets URL

    https://twitter.com/SenFeinstein

  97. 97.

    Anne Laurie

    December 11, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    @shelley:

    Classic Bro-Country. The Georgia Satellites, “Keep Your Hands To Yourself.”

    Shoot, and here I’d managed to wipe their name right out of my memory banks. They played opener on the Bob Seger “farewell concert” arena tour in Detroit in the mid-1980s, and we in the audience quickly discovered that the response line in their one hit scanned perfectly to “Get the F***K off the STAGE!”…

  98. 98.

    Eric S.

    December 11, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    @shortstop: Buena area is pretty cool. I play softball at Clarendon Park. Yeah, a bit north but we come back south after the ganes.

  99. 99.

    Booger

    December 11, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    @Pogonip: Constitution.

  100. 100.

    Uncle Ebeneezer

    December 11, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    Imagine if those Communist Dixie Chicks!!1! had made this statement, how much worse the butt-hurt from Bro-Country-dom would be.

    Things of value in modern country: fun, beer, America, girls*, guns, Jesus, pickup trucks…

    *provided they are: White, Christian, wear Daisy Dukes, like to party, but ultimately are subservient to the dudes.

  101. 101.

    trollhattan

    December 11, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    @Mike J:

    In a true bro country song he would have been telling his friends about how he nailed her even afterbecause she said no.

    Fixed.

  102. 102.

    burnspbesq

    December 11, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    @Hal:

    That’s a terrible name for a band.

    Naw, it’s a perfectly appropriate name for a terrible band. They suck worse than the actors playing country musicians on “Nashville.”

  103. 103.

    Mike J

    December 11, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    @efgoldman: What about the song about the girl full of beer?

  104. 104.

    Tree With Water

    December 11, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    @The Other Chuck: I don’t believe you are correct. Party membership was not required of anyone but the willing in Nazi Germany, inclusive of the professions.

  105. 105.

    JPL

    December 11, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Still don’t know who Luke is but about fifteen years ago, I was in a blockbusters and got into a discussion about whether rap music or country music was more degrading to females. Country music won.

  106. 106.

    trollhattan

    December 11, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    @JPL:
    That there’s some stiff competition.

  107. 107.

    Suffern ACE

    December 11, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    I guess this is semi-related. But has there ever been a female country star whose stage persona was the equivalent to the hard drinking male country star? I female George Jones or Hank Williams Jr. A wild woman of sorts?

  108. 108.

    Pogonip

    December 11, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    @efgoldman: Which has sprained its tail.

  109. 109.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    @Eric S.: LOL. The way you said that, I’m picturing you looking nervously over your shoulder as you skitter across Irving Park.

  110. 110.

    Baud

    December 11, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    @Pogonip:

    Poor doggy.

  111. 111.

    tybee

    December 11, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    patsy cline

  112. 112.

    raven

    December 11, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    @Suffern ACE: Tammy Whynot.

  113. 113.

    shortstop

    December 11, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    @Pogonip: ha!

  114. 114.

    burnspbesq

    December 11, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    Wanda Jackson and, more recently, Miranda Lambert.

    Honorable mention to Deana Carter for “Did I Shave My Legs for This?”

  115. 115.

    Pogonip

    December 11, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    @shortstop: Country-song tragedy just ain’t what it used to be.

  116. 116.

    burnspbesq

    December 11, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzWOa8loCDI

  117. 117.

    Buddy H

    December 11, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    @Another Holocene Human:
    doctors are sometimes targeted in financial scams because they get Linus Pauling disease and think they are geniuses at All The Things

    Very true. Also, the small plane beechcraft bonanza was nick-named “the doctor killer” because so many newly-affluent docs would buy small planes for themselves, take some flying lessons, then lose control and crash.

  118. 118.

    gelfling545

    December 11, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    @Carzy: yep, as I can tell you due to the recent experiences of one moronic member of my family. $100k and counting in medical bills so far. And that was after he finally found a doctor to see him since, hey, this is NY and who the hell isn’t insured?

  119. 119.

    JoyfulA

    December 11, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    @Another Holocene Human: A doctor in-law almost bought into an Oriental rug investment plan.

  120. 120.

    NobodySpecial

    December 11, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    Bro-country, to me, dovetails perfectly with the history of country music veering between being sheeny pop and faux-tough hellraisers. Anyone who remembers Moe Bandy and Joe Stampley or Johnny Paycheck fondly would fit right in with Luke Bryan.

  121. 121.

    Steeplejack

    December 11, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    @KG:

    Occasionally, I get in the mood for Outlaw Country on Sirius [. . .].

    Willie’s Roadhouse is good for the really old-school—and just old—stuff.

  122. 122.

    JPL

    December 11, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Is there any news from our CA friends who were in the eye of the storm. I know BillinGlendale was worried about a dead tree destroying his apt because of high winds.

  123. 123.

    burnspbesq

    December 11, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    @JPL:

    Hasn’t started raining in OC. Tomorrow morning could really suck.

  124. 124.

    Anne Laurie

    December 11, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    @Suffern ACE: Kitty Wells, all the way back in 1952!

    “Too many times married men think they’re still single/That has caused many a good girl to go wrong”

  125. 125.

    K488

    December 11, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Anyone interested in a really interesting book on different gender traditions in country, I recommend:

    http://www.amazon.com/Rednecks-Queers-Country-Music-Nadine/dp/0520280660/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418349570&sr=8-1&keywords=Nadine+Hubbs

    A fascinating read, and one useful for understanding a lot of class issues as well.

  126. 126.

    raven

    December 11, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    @JPL: Glendale is in LA, what’s he worried about?

  127. 127.

    Mike J

    December 11, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    @Suffern ACE: Emmylou Harris did Feeling single, Seeing Double.

  128. 128.

    raven

    December 11, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    She’s Acting Single, I’m Drinking Double-Gary Stewart

  129. 129.

    JPL

    December 11, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    @raven: The storm was suppose to move through tonight. I have no idea if it did.

  130. 130.

    raven

    December 11, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    @JPL: Not yet but it’s on it’s way. Now I have to listen to all my LA people moan and bitch.

  131. 131.

    SoupCatcher

    December 11, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    @JPL:
    San Jose lurker checking in. We’ve had steady rain for the past nine hours, but nowhere near as much as some of the people further north. We’re close to the Guadalupe River – which flooded periodically throughout San Jose’s history and, most recently, in 1997 – and that still has a lot of capacity, especially compared to some of the other rivers in the state (you can find links to river levels through that NOAA page but I removed the link to avoid tripping moderation; the Russian River is at flood level along with a couple of others).

    The flood control system that the San Jose Water Company has been working on for the past few decades is functioning nicely. There are overflow channels that parallel the river and go underneath the city streets and the water level is high enough to go into those. Here’s what one of the intakes looks like (that’s right underneath the 280/85 interchange). I just checked out this location a couple of hours ago and the water level was a few feet higher than the intake barrier wall and spilling over it nicely.

    There are still many pockets of local flooding on streets in low lying areas where leaves have blocked storm drains and the occasional tree falling over (it was really windy last night and this morning) – the roof on a supermarket even collapsed – but we’re weathering things so far in the south bay.

  132. 132.

    SoupCatcher

    December 11, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    @SoupCatcher: Hm. In moderation. Shorter version: we’re wet in San Jose but weathering the storm so far.

    And the previous comment should say 280/87 interchange. Not 280/85 interchange. This is what the interchange looked like the last time the river flooded. We’re nowhere near that right now.

  133. 133.

    Anne Laurie

    December 11, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    @K488: Thanks! — just added it to my (overlong) to-be-read list…

  134. 134.

    barbequebob

    December 11, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    @raven:

    Love that song,

    followed by a shot of Ernest Tubb’s “The Lord Knows I’m Drinking”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfY7qP4DEc

  135. 135.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 11, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    I’m alright. My plants are fine. At last check my car is still there. I live on a hill.

  136. 136.

    Mnemosyne

    December 11, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    @JPL:

    Rain has not gotten to us yet, though Weather Underground tells me there’s a 100 percent chance of rain starting right about now. It sounds like I’m going to be glad tomorrow that I got the car with 4WD.

    ETA: BIll and I now live about 4 miles from each other — I moved one city over from Glendale.

  137. 137.

    Anne Laurie

    December 11, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    @barbequebob: From the comments to Tubbs’ YouTube clip:

    The Jews do not recognize Christ as the Messiah Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the Head of the Church Baptists, however do not recognize each other at Hooters.

  138. 138.

    Mnemosyne

    December 11, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Just keep reminding yourself that, despite what Alanis Morrisette claimed, rain on your wedding day is actually considered lucky in most cultures.

  139. 139.

    Mike G

    December 12, 2014 at 12:14 am

    Looking at the weather radar map there’s a giant ugly storm bearing down about 50 miles to the west of us — and the storm is about 300 miles north to south. It’s a monster.

    http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?location=USCA0643

  140. 140.

    CanadaGoose

    December 12, 2014 at 1:44 am

    @Another Holocene Human: Scott Adams worked for what was then called Pacific Bell, the phone co.

  141. 141.

    richard mayhew

    December 12, 2014 at 6:43 am

    @Carzy: If they do not enroll by Dec. 15, their coverage can not start until Feb. 1 at the earliest. If they do not enroll before Feb. 15, they are SOL unless they have a qualiying life event (move, married, divorced, kid, major job change etc). If they have a qualifying life event, they can get mid-year coverage.

  142. 142.

    Paul in KY

    December 12, 2014 at 9:06 am

    I do think it is pretty cool that ‘Follow Your Arrow’ won Country Music Song-of-the-Year. Deservedly so, I might add.

  143. 143.

    jnfr

    December 12, 2014 at 9:59 am

    This song and video are my absolute favorites of this entire year.

  144. 144.

    sw

    December 12, 2014 at 10:24 am

    There aren’t any real cowboys east of the Mississippi. All those dumb ass’s gotta lose the hat, sober up and learn a fourth chord.

  145. 145.

    SFAW

    December 12, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    I remember some Bagginses and Proudfoots being less than thrilled

    ProudFEET!

  146. 146.

    Jesse

    December 12, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    @KG: Also, members of Congress are privileged from arrest except in cases of “breach of the peace”, which means a direct act of violence in the sense of punching someone.

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