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Army/Navy Open Thread

by John Cole|  December 13, 20143:02 pm| 64 Comments

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Go Army! Beat Navy!

Oh, btw, for those of you who have Showitallthetime, there is going to be a documentary on the making of Illmatic tonight at 7:45. Very much looking forward to it.

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  1. 1.

    raven

    December 13, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    I thought you were talking about this:

    ILLIAC (Illinois Automatic Computer) was a series of supercomputers built at a variety of locations, some at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. In all, five computers were built in this series between 1951 and 1974.

  2. 2.

    JordanRules

    December 13, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Looking forward to it as well!

    With some wild speculation that Kurt Warner is considering a return to the NFL to play for the Cards a blog I was on just started brainstorming all the QB’s they could call up. It was hilarious. Names like Akili Smith and Bubby Brister came up. Woooo the dustbins and nostalgia had me cracking up!

  3. 3.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Go Army! Beat Navy!

    I agree, but it’s sort of unlikely.

    ETA: Holy fuck.

  4. 4.

    raven

    December 13, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Fuck em both. Buncha goddamn officers!

  5. 5.

    raven

    December 13, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    @efgoldman: What about Napoleon McCallum??

  6. 6.

    raven

    December 13, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    @efgoldman: Here’s a shot from my new camera to cheer you up.

  7. 7.

    Mike J

    December 13, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Since my dad was in the navy I sort of cheer for them. He wasn’t that crazy about it, but liked it better than being drafted.

  8. 8.

    Tommy

    December 13, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    I want to yell go Air Force. I do not get the Army vs. Navy game.

  9. 9.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    December 13, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Tommy: Hey keep quiet or we going put you back into the Army Air Corps!:-) AIR DEFENSE ARTILLERY GO ARMY!!!)

  10. 10.

    mai naem

    December 13, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    I bought a new laptop. OMG. Who the fuck approved Windows 8 in its current form? Were they drunk? Did Larry Page offer them a massive bribe to finally kill MS? I am ready to start looking for a new laptop with windows 7. This is horrible.

  11. 11.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    @Tommy: What’s not to get? Army/Navy rivalries have existed since there were armies and navies. College football rivalries have existed since there was college football.

    ETA: Go Army! Beat Navy! Fuck the Air Force!

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    December 13, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    @mai naem: Rumor has it that Windows 10 (they’re skipping ‘9’ for some reason) will dial back a lot of the questionable decisions in 8. The idea of one OS that scales seamlessly from phones to desktops and everything in between is a nice one, but Microsoft didn’t seem to do a good job actually implementing it.

  13. 13.

    Mike J

    December 13, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Rumor has it that Windows 10 (they’re skipping ‘9’ for some reason)

    The rumor I heard about why 9 is being skipped is because of the amount of bad code that doesn’t use the right api to check windows version number and instead looks at the string of the name, like this:

    String osName = System.getProperty("os.name");
    if(osName.startsWith("Windows 9") || osName.equals("Windows ME"))

    That code was written to detect windows 95 or windows 98, but was very poorly written.

  14. 14.

    Violet

    December 13, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    @mai naem: There’s something you can add to Windows 8 that makes it look and act like Windows 7.

  15. 15.

    p.a.

    December 13, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    @JordanRules: is Jim Hart still extant?

  16. 16.

    lamh36

    December 13, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    The doc premiered last night but I missed it. Thx for the heads up I’ll set my DVR this time.

    In the meanwhile…Note Dame women’s basketball

    Woot! #icantbreathe RT @1neNOnly: Notre Dame women http://t.co/jkmBlCwTRE

    https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/543882222240301056

  17. 17.

    lamh36

    December 13, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    #I CAN’T BREATHE

    @rolandsmartin first high school team to speak out without saying 1 word. #proudcoach #daytonohio #StiversTigers http://t.co/KwVPPkAxw1

  18. 18.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    December 13, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    @mai naem: Classic Start Menu. Will among other things force a boot to the desktop.

    Windows Blinds if you just can’t get used to the flat window aesthetic. (I couldn’t.)

  19. 19.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    December 13, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    @mai naem: Well, I tried to post a link to a classic start button freebie, but it disappeared into the bit bucket.

    I use Classic Shell’s start button (free) and Windows Blinds. I tried for several months but just couldn’t get used to the new flat desktop aesthetic.

  20. 20.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    December 13, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    Trying to post the link again.

    Classic Shell

  21. 21.

    HinTN

    December 13, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Go Army! Beat Navy! Fuck the Air Force!

    I’m down with that.

  22. 22.

    monkeyfister

    December 13, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    Finishing the Navy-side planning on this game this week marked the very last real responsibility for me for the rest of the year. I hope everyone enjoys the toys, the robots, CNO’s moment, and all the goofy video ribbon stuff we sent to Baltimore. The SWCC CCA Boat was a real coup to score for the event. Best– I got to put some of my fellow IATSE Brothers and Sisters to work.

    GO NAVY!!!

  23. 23.

    raven

    December 13, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: For some reason when I was in the field artillery in the 60’s we still had the missile between the crossed cannon’s.

  24. 24.

    raven

    December 13, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee: See our symbol.

  25. 25.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    December 13, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    @raven: When I was in the Air Defense Artillery in the 80’s our symbol was the missile with the cross cannons and the field artillery was just the crossed cannons, iirc. Oh BTW the US Army was one in NATO where we had the Air Defense, everyone else had Air Defense in the Air Force, so eventually my chain of command would answer to an Air Force commander.

  26. 26.

    raven

    December 13, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee: Yea, I never knew why they did that. The 2/79th was actually an aerial rocket unit on choppers.

    “Aerial rocket artillery (abbreviated ARA, also called aerial artillery) is a type of armed helicopter unit that was part of the artillery component of the United States Army’s two airmobile divisions during the Vietnam War. Controlled by division artillery and not the aviation group, the 2nd Battalion, 20th Artillery, 1st Cavalry Division and the 4th Battalion, 77th Artillery, 101st Airborne Division, along with Battery F, 79th Artillery, 1st Cavalry Division, were the only ARA units fielded during that conflict. The ARA concept disappeared from Army aviation by the mid-1970s, replaced with more generic attack aviation units.
    “

  27. 27.

    Cacti

    December 13, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    For the sake of my old man, go Navy!

  28. 28.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    December 13, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    @raven: I remember the home for the Field Artillery was Ft Sill, while Ft Bliss was home to the ADA. I guess now all Artillery training is now consolidated at Ft. Sill.

  29. 29.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    @raven: The missile was added to the artillery insignia in 1957. When the ADA branch was split off from FA in 1968, they kept the cannons and missile insignia and FA reverted to its original crossed cannons.

  30. 30.

    PurpleGirl

    December 13, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    @raven: Whoa. The detail is fantastic.

  31. 31.

    PurpleGirl

    December 13, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    @mai naem: Not sure you can still get a laptop with Win 7. I think you’d need to find a computer guy who could uninstall Win 8 and install Win 7 for you. Last year I was looking at new laptops and none of them had Win 7 on them. (On my notebook I’m still using Win XP.)

  32. 32.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Aah, quick on the edit button, ain’tcha?

    Damn right.

  33. 33.

    JPL

    December 13, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    My father retired from the Navy so watching the game was a family tradition. My youngest brother retired from the Army and my oldest brother from Air Force. One of my nephews is still in the Air Force.

  34. 34.

    Neutron Flux

    December 13, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    @raven: Absolutely.

  35. 35.

    PurpleGirl

    December 13, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    Tonight on MeTV at 9 PM. Star Trek — The Conscience of the King.

  36. 36.

    raven

    December 13, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Army dude singin had the crushed beer can on!

  37. 37.

    srv

    December 13, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Burn the emowitch!

    Senator Elizabeth Warren’s (D-MA) rebellious stand against Democratic leadership – including President Obama – on Thursday’s vote to fund the government has incited a palpable sense of anger in some circles of the party.

    “She is the Ted Cruz of the Democratic Party,” one senior House Democratic aide complained, comparing Senator Warren to Senator Ted Cruz’s hard line tactics last year when he led a caucus of House Republicans to shut down the government in an effort to defund Obamacare.

    “[Sen. Warren is] the purist who may stand on principle, but refuses to be part of the governing majority,” the aide added.

  38. 38.

    Schlemazel

    December 13, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    @Mike J:

    That is the story I heard also

    but was very poorly written.

    should be Microsquishes motto

  39. 39.

    Ripley

    December 13, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    @mai naem: Ditto for Classic Shell, very customizable and straightforward. I’ve read horror stories about trying to backload Win 7 on a Win 8 system; Classic Shell solves the problem with little hassle.

    Since you’re using a laptop, make sure to turn off mouse gestures in the preloaded trackpad software (via Control Panel) or the Win 8, ironically named Charms Bar will plague you forever. It ain’t charming.

  40. 40.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    December 13, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    @Ripley:

    I’ve read horror stories about trying to backload Win 7 on a Win 8 system

    There are often driver issues when one tries to backload. I’ve managed to work around them in the past, but never without a lot of interesting hair-tearing motions.

  41. 41.

    Roger Moore

    December 13, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    @Mike J:

    The rumor I heard about why 9 is being skipped is because of the amount of bad code that doesn’t use the right api to check windows version number and instead looks at the string of the name

    I’ve heard the same rumor. While I have plenty of bad things to say about Microsoft and Windows, I greatly respect their willingness to bend over backward to provide good backward compatibility.

  42. 42.

    Kathleen

    December 13, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    @PurpleGirl: Sometimes you can get the previous version if you can order from business supplier.

  43. 43.

    Mike J

    December 13, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    @Schlemazel: The example code I gave came out of jedit, not a microsoft program.

  44. 44.

    Kathleen

    December 13, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    @lamh36: That, and the pic of Notre Dame’s women’s basketball time, are really cool.

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    December 13, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    @Mike J:

    The example code I gave came out of jedit, not a microsoft program.

    As I understand it, that was the common case. Anyone who actually worked for Microsoft would use the official, correct way of identifying the OS [ETA: or be corrected by somebody higher up]. I suspect, though I’m not sure, that the problem with Java programs from that era is that they were written to be cross-platform, so the authors didn’t want to depend on OS-specific ways of identifying the system. Instead, they’d ask for an OS string and parse it to get the information they wanted. It might have made it easier to write for multiple platforms, but it led to some awful code.

  46. 46.

    max

    December 13, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    @PurpleGirl: Not sure you can still get a laptop with Win 7. I think you’d need to find a computer guy who could uninstall Win 8 and install Win 7 for you. Last year I was looking at new laptops and none of them had Win 7 on them. (On my notebook I’m still using Win XP.)

    Nope, not unless there are still Windows 7 boxes in inventory. They stopped distribution of OEM copies of Windows 7 on Halloween. (I managed to snag one.)

    @dmsilev: Rumor has it that Windows 10 (they’re skipping ‘9’ for some reason) will dial back a lot of the questionable decisions in 8. The idea of one OS that scales seamlessly from phones to desktops and everything in between is a nice one, but Microsoft didn’t seem to do a good job actually implementing it.

    Strictly speaking, what they tried to do was to make the desktop shell look like the Windows tablet shell. Nobody liked it. Win10 is going back to a 7-style shell. (With additions from Metro.) Complete with start button. Any extra customizations needed can be added with Classic Shell.

    That said, they’ve got the write one run anywhere thing going. So this is supposed to be an improvement, sounds like an improvement and the Preview folks say it’s an improvement. It’s also going to be free for consumer boxes.

    max
    [‘It had better be, given that they pulled 7.’]

  47. 47.

    Steeplejack

    December 13, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Redacted. Must remember to read the thread first if I come in late.

  48. 48.

    Fermion the Clown

    December 13, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    @raven (first comment): +1

  49. 49.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 13, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    @Tommy:

    When I was a little girl, I used to love to read a book series about an Army family that had various postings around the U.S. and around the world. When they were stationed at West Point and Governor’s Island, the Army-Navy Game always figured prominently in the plot :-)

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: It is, for obvious reasons, a bigger thing among officers than it is in the enlisted ranks.

  51. 51.

    mai naem mobile

    December 13, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: @Ripley: Thanks for the info. Now that I’m perfectly intimidated, I’m going to work on it next week.

  52. 52.

    drkrick

    December 13, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    @srv: Why would Warren need to know how to be part of a governing majority? She’s a Congressional Democrat.

  53. 53.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 13, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yes, I would imagine so!

  54. 54.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: It’s a bit funny that, with so many veterans commenting on the site, VDE is one of very few whose military experience bears any similarity to mine. The life and work experience of a military officer is stunningly different than that of an enlisted person.

  55. 55.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    December 13, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Ahem.

    The life and work experience of a military officer is stunningly different than from that of an enlisted person.

    /Pedantic reflex.

  56. 56.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I am a bad person (last night I was called Satan (I am so proud)), and you are correct. I throw myself upon the mercy of the Court.

  57. 57.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    December 13, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: You should be proud of such an address. And the Court is merciful. This time.

  58. 58.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Amends are offered.

  59. 59.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    December 13, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: And most appropriate amends at that. Thank you as the days get shorter.

  60. 60.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 11:22 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): “Dis one is for de bouncers…” That’s the intro to the song that sticks in my memory. Neville Staple is awesome. I am the age that I am.

  61. 61.

    Steeplejack

    December 13, 2014 at 11:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Ain’t that a bitch?

  62. 62.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    @Steeplejack: Damn.

    ETA: But I have gone ska…..

  63. 63.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 13, 2014 at 11:32 pm

    Redacted.

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    December 14, 2014 at 12:08 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Good one. I think I’m fading. Going out with the Meters . . .

    Give L.B. my regards if he shows up.

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