Nope, done with human beings.
A Kansas mother has been charged with the chilling death of her 10-year-old son, who she allegedly stabbed to death while he was sleeping because she thought he would be better off in heaven.
Nope.
EDIT: Super done with humanity.
After all those years of feminists saying we need girls running foreign policy to make the world safer, we get Obama and now look at us.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) December 18, 2014
Open thread.
Cervantes
What kills me is that the “who” should be a “whom.”
dan
He needs a good punching.
MattF
There’s something badly amiss with Erickson.
Cervantes
@dan:
You’re telling me you understand his tweet?
Or that he needs punching just on general principles?
schrodinger's cat
I don’t understand what Erikson is trying to say. Is he calling Obama a girl or is he saying that Obama’s foreign policy is made by girls? Sam Power and Susan Rice, I don’t know where that leaves Kerry.
beth
You’re not actually implying that there’s any humanity in Erickson, are you?
Violet
@schrodinger’s cat: He’s calling President Obama a girl.
cahuenga
@Violet:
It’s the mom pants.
lamh36
Great analysis of that BS regarding Denzel and Black leads from SONY emails
The Gift That Keeps on Giving – Leaked Sony Email Challenges Denzel Washington’s Overseas Box Office Appeal
Tenar Darell
Erikson is definitely a toad that no Princess could change. It’s probably why he hates girls.
Roger Moore
@Cervantes:
I don’t think his tweet has any actual, specific meaning. He’s just lumping Obama, women, and foreign policy with a general insinuation of something wrong. Wingnuts will know to read it as an accusation that Obama has failed because he’s too girly, but Erickson can claim he never said that if pushed on the point.
trollhattan
“and now look at us.”
Okay. Economy continuing six years of uninterrupted growth, deficit hugely reduced, one war ended and another mostly wound down, national health care, marriage equality, increase in CAFE standards, stronger industrial emission standards, greenhouse gas agreement with China, oh, look, cheap gasoline and natural gas…how long shall I continue?
Under Czar Romney it would all be much better for You People, of course.
Belafon
Shorter Erick: “Why won’t Obama invade Cuba?!”
MomSense
@Roger Moore:
It’s more of the Obama WEAK meme this time with more sexism.
Violet
@MattF: He’s currently in seminary. That’s what you do if you want to be a minister. Can you imagine Erik Erickson as a minister with all the “ministering to people” that accompanies that job? People come to ministers for counseling on issues. Can’t even imagine the horror show it would be go to to Erik Erickson for ministerial counseling.
Cervantes
@Roger Moore:
@MomSense:
Thanks.
And if that’s all he has, he knows he has nothing.
trollhattan
@MomSense:
Actually think it’s worse than that: he’s calling Obama a girl. And not in an Austin Powers voice.
ETA Violet beat me to it.
Belafon
@Violet:
Woman: “My husband is beating me!”
Erick: “Have you been having enough sex with him?”
lamh36
Posted on another thread but fits better here.
Bill OReilly is a racist bigot.
Here’s what I get tired of…I don’t care who your parents are or how nice your relatives are otherwise, if any of them watch and “appreciate” Bill OReillys “view”then I consider then to be as racist and bigoted as he is.
Oh and if you think I hold my impatience sole for white folks, I once had a conversation with another Black woman who actually tried to claim that Bill O’Reilly makes “good points” in regards to Black folk…I told her bullshit. Bill O’Reilly is a bigotted racist who hides his bullshit in “concern” for a community when he is actually just perpetuating stereotypes and wrapping them in “buzzwords” that stupid people fall for easily. And she isn’t the first Black person I know who have been stupid enough to fall for Bill O’s okey doke.
O’Reilly tells MLK’s son: Black People Should Wear ‘Don’t Get Pregnant At 14’ T-Shirts http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/oreilly-black-dont-get-pregnant-shirts
Fuck Bill O and Fox News. And MLK III is an idiot for going on Bill O’s shoe & not pushin back at Bill O bullshit.
Frankensteinbeck
@trollhattan:
Finally a successful nuclear deal with Iran, Russia’s dreams of empire nipped in the bud without us firing a bullet, Osama Bin Laden dead… did I mention that Obama got Osama? You know, what we supposedly hired a Republican president to do?
EDIT – @lamh36:
O’Reilly is and has always been a racist, sexist, all-around bigot. He mourned the death of ‘the white establishment’ when Obama was reelected. He told two women anchorwomen to their faces that there must be a downside to a woman president, and then would not stop pressing the point when they stared at him in horror and said ‘no’ over and over. He’s a bigot. That’s his entire schtick. So, uh… you’re right, yes.
p.a.
Mmmm hmmm Mmmm hmmmm. I guess the Black Thug Dictator President is only a Black Thug Dictator domestically. Internationally he’s the Naiev Naif Doormat Blackety-Black Pussy President. Or closet Socialist. Your mileage may vary.
Ewic has to be blowing snot bubbles of laughter penning this stuff for the rubes. He can’t be that stupid. A charlatan, a grifter. But this fucking dumb?
schrodinger's cat
@Violet: Misogynist and racist, nice!
Lavocat
Channeling Homer Simpson: “Douchebag Douchebagson is the doucheist douchebag who ever douched.”
Belafon
@lamh36: I know plenty of white people – a good portion of them are my relatives – who had children at 14, 15.
Kristin
Because calling someone a girl is the worst insult one could level.
Jesus.
Jane2
Chances are pretty great that the Kansas woman is mentally ill. As for Erickson, he makes a great living out of being a grifter.
FlipYrWhig
@Violet:
Definitely some kind of structure filled with semen.
Mike E
@lamh36: It just amazed me that, in this highly connected media cauldron, anyone would think they could keep this shit out of the public purview…like the repubs not knowing how teh google works or that their tv appearances are recorded.
greennotGreen
Zandar, in the first case, that’s just a tragic result of bad brain chemicals. Maybe someday we will know better how to treat mental disease, and such things won’t happen.
In the second case, Erick Erickson has no soul, and that’s God’s doing. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
satby
That boy (Ewwwick) ain’t right.
Roger Moore
@MomSense:
It’s also quite deliberately an insinuation rather than a statement so he can deny saying anything wrong if he’s pressed on it. It’s the coward’s way of making an accusation.
Rand Careaga
@dan:
In his eyes there’s something lacking:
What he needs a damn good whacking…
Dcrefugee
In what universe is Mr. Erickson is considered competent to comment on U.S. foreign policy?
Trentrunner
This is one of the main reasons I want Hillary to run.
Just as Obama made all the (metaphorical) white hoods come off, Hillary being the nominee will unleash of tsunami of disgusting sexism and misogyny like we’ve never, ever seen.
And while black people are 10-11% of the population and reliably Democratic, women are 51% and run the political spectrum.
Many Republican and “centrist” women are not going to take too kindly to this Erik Erickson-type bullshit.
I can’t wait until the first Republican senator “compliments” Hillary by saying since she’s past menopause, we won’t have to worry her being on the rag with the launch codes.
You know it’s coming. And I welcome it.
trollhattan
@lamh36:
One…make that the one good thing O’Reilly has done is give us nine years of “The Colbert Report.”
The rest of it is basically, “In other news, experts agree: ‘water is wet.'”
Did he never get his MFin’ ice tea? Maybe that’s why he’s always so mad.
JPL
This is the guy that loves the one who rides horseback without a shirt on. That says it all.
@lamh36: The Daily Show had a great smack down of Hannity and Fox News. The one thing I wish they had added is the smoking gun piece on Bill O’Reilly. He’s pure slime.
Roger Moore
@Dcrefugee:
He’s been on TV. Also, too, he’s white enough not to need a sheet at a Klan rally, which automatically makes him better than the President in many people’s eyes.
DonkeyKong
Wouldn’t Erik Erikson be better off in heaven …….too soon?
SiubhanDuinne
@Jane2:
Agree the woman is mentally ill, but yikes! If the ex-husband is telling the truth that he filed a report of neglect with the state and they failed even to investigate, they share culpability in that poor kid’s death. What an awful story.
MomSense
@trollhattan:
Either he is calling Obama a girl, which in Erickson’s pea brain is an insult, or he is saying that women are leading Obama’s foreign policy. I guess in Erickson’s primitive brain women leading Obama’s foreign policy is bad and probably Obama is weak and bad for letting women run his foreign policy.
I feel like I’m in junior high over analyzing an immature doofus.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Leaving aside all the personal issues with gender and politics in Erickson’s tweet (the first case is too sad), even far more “respectable” conservatives, and maybe even a lot of self-ID’d liberals, seem to sincerely believe that the world is more violent and chaotic now than when he we had two hot wars going on as a result of a massive terror attack that, if we can’t say Bush could have stopped, he and his people (Cheney and Rice above all) ignored every warning was coming.
Yup. And with all the caveats about things we’ll never now, I think it’s highly unlikely there were no warning signs there. Is it even possible to keep track of how many people die every from untreated mental illness, their own and others.
Brendan in NC
@Dcrefugee: How is it that Mr. Erickson is considered competent?
beth
@lamh36: And in the same segment he whines about Obama not showing leadership to the black community. Really, being and staying happily married, raising two well-adjusted daughters, getting an education and being elected President isn’t setting an example? What does he have to do – walk on water and cure cancer too?
I hope you saw The Daily Show rip Fox a new one last night for referring to Jay-Z as a “drug dealer”.
SiubhanDuinne
@trollhattan:
Obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1M6EYA14eU&sns=em
Betty Cracker
My house is being re-roofed, and it’s every bit as nightmarish as I’d feared. Dear god, the noise! The dogs are a pair of growling, bristling basket-cases, and who can blame them? To them, the house is besieged by hammer-wielding strangers. I don’t know what the hens make of it. They alone seem capable of going about their business as if nothing out of the ordinary is happening.
Cervantes
@Rand Careaga:
Good thing for you the fantasy never materialized.
Sorry to read about the loss of your once-close friend.
Roger Moore
@beth:
The problem is that Conservatives think leadership is about speech rather than action. Thus Obama may be a fantastic role model, but he isn’t showing leadership because he isn’t spending enough time talking about it. Similarly, his foreign policy is a failure because he doesn’t swagger and threaten enough.
The Pale Scot
Mad or saner than most of us?
beth
@Betty Cracker: Can you put them in doggie daycare for a few days? I finally resorted to that when we had our house painted and the painters left a paint can top out in the yard. Of course my dog stepped on it and tracked paint paw marks on all my wood floors. This after spending all day barking out the windows at the painters. Daycare saved my sanity.
Cervantes
@The Pale Scot:
Arguably, she was right.
Starfish
@MomSense: This was the other parent. Why didn’t he fight for custody?
jl
So Erick Erickson is calling Obama a girly man? Ha ha. Ha ha. I thought he was a fiendish tyrannical super genius time traveler secretly destroying all goodness and right, a black Dr Evil. Oh, that’s right, today is Thursday. It’s an ‘Obama is weak and inadequate’ day.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
They’re not the only ones. A common bleat from fire baggers is “If Obama would only tell people that Wall Street….”, also “If the people only heard Dennis….” Also tote-baggers, a la Jake Tapper’s infamous (to me) plaintive and self-righteous “Where have you been…” after Newtown.
Dcrefugee
This has been going around today (“Vin” from Manhattan on the NYT site, via LGM) but I haven’t seen it in this thread:
“Look, I can appreciate that it’s a tough decision to normalize relations with a police state whose police forces routinely murder civilians (and whose top political leaders have engaged in torture of prisoners with impunity), but Cuba did the right thing.”
proterozoic
Obama weak. Putin strong. Putin big, strong leader. Big, strong penis. HARD PENIS. TOUGH. BIG MAN. BIG PENIS. BIG STRONG!!! TOUGH!!!!
Matt McIrvin
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yes, well, most Americans also believe there’s more violent crime now than there was in 1970 or 1990, even though there’s actually way less.
And the world in general was in far worse shape at the height of the Cold War than it was even during the GWB years: little superpower proxy wars everywhere, tinpot dictators propped up by everyone. But it doesn’t make a lot of difference to how people perceive history.
Frankensteinbeck
@Roger Moore:
Yep. They are completely superficial. It’s part and parcel of their entire system. They think Obama is weak because he doesn’t rant about how evil Muslims are, and Obama’s not showing leadership to blacks because he’s not berating them for being lazy and criminal and irresponsible parents. I mean, they’d hate everything he did anyway because ‘black Democrat’, but he actually does match their twisted definitions of ‘weak’ and ‘doesn’t lead’.
satby
I wonder why she thought that about her son and not her daughter. The girl was untouched. I get that mom is nuts, but family annihilaters usually take out everyone in the house.
RaflW
@Jane2: Yes. I am horrified for the Kansas family. Serious mental illness seems possible.
For Erickson, I just have scorn. He choses to be that callous and evil.
satby
@Dcrefugee: Love that!
trollhattan
@SiubhanDuinne:
Heh, that never gets old. At least he’s mellowed out, since.
scav
How does ErikErikSquaredSperm absolve the Sainted Ronnie from Internationally and Publicly consorting with known Girly-
Cooties Carrier Maggie T?
Yatsuno
@Betty Cracker:
Chickens are very adaptable birds. Worst comes to worst they just hide in the coop until the danger is gone. The real danger is keeping them from eating debris accidentally. They tend to not be as…discerning as they should be about their foodstuffs.
Eric U.
I wonder if the wingnuts really understand that tweet, or if it’s just “hur hur hur, obummer bad”
It’s incredibly offensive
Mike E
Not to state the obvious or anything, but the rage-fueled Great Orange Sofa fire is a-smolderin’ over at purity troll central…it’s as if any good news about PBO must not be tolerated. Heh.
shelley
@Roger Moore: Yeah, and part of the ‘wussification’ that Wingnuts are convinced has befallen this Great Land Of Ours.
Belafon
@Mike E: I tend to ignore most of that diarists posts.
GregB
When did Erick Erickson stop fucking goats?
Starfish
@satby: She is a lady. Family annihilators are mostly men.
Though that story did not have a lot of details, it left me wondering if the boy had some sort of developmental delay and if she was not getting much support on the parenting front if all the boy’s father did was report the mom to the state for neglect.
Elie
What Obama is doing is very threatening to them. He is showing the strength and power of “soft” power — of not invading Ukraine to “show” Russia but to put the screws to Putin using very effective and painful measures that are not about physical abuse or coercion. Putin also has a very primitive notion of power and other alternatives to accomplish his ends. He underestimates every option that is not about coercion because he just doesnt see anything else…
These are the people who want torture — even though it is not effective because they want to do torture, apparently. Physical coercion is their understanding of what power is and means. These are people who would run into walls with their heads over and over. It is damned alarming to them that you can have success with something that was not physically about overpowering or coercing someone. It is like homo sapiens confronting neanderthals — they just can’t grock higher level mental functioning and problems solving and are stuck with the club. They make it so easy for Obama to show them up! I bet sometimes even HE is surprised by how stupid they are and how easy they are to end run…
BTW, Obama aint nearly finished with Putin…
Liberty60
I strolled through the salty tears over at RedState this morning, and the despair was everywhere.
Between the self-describe lapsed Catholic wailing about the betrayal of the Pope (and wondering aloud where he could find a church conservative for him to non-attend), then others complaining about how the Commies have won (when we were THIS CLOSE to winning!), it was, as Mr. Pierce might say, wolverines looking for someone in a meat suit.
Iowa Old Lady
In all the media talk about torture, did anyone see an interview with someone from Amnesty International? I didn’t. They should have been someone’s first call.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Starfish:
The quote from the child’s dad at the end started with something like “there’s no doubt in my military mind,” so it’s possible that he’s on active duty and not in a position to help out much day-to-day.
Yatsuno
@Mike E: That…was barely even English. I’m not even certain there was a coherent argument there beyond probably diving through firebagger links that prove only the writer’s own biases.
philpm
@Rand Careaga: You win the internets for the “Piggies” reference. Me personally, I think that song should be required listening every election day.
FlipYrWhig
Newsmax showing a sense of humor? Or is the quip Giuliani’s? I’m not getting out of the boat.
Mike E
@Belafon: Yeah, me too, but, it takes everything I got not to troll the fuck outa that and every other dumbass on that site.
If impeachment is nigh, I hope it will be as “entertaining” as the last one was.
Cervantes
@Iowa Old Lady:
Amnesty issued a press release which was quoted here and there.
(Not precisely an answer to your question.)
Amir Khalid
@FlipYrWhig:
Most likely it’s just the usual lack of awareness.
Hang on. Newsmax spelled Giuliani’s first name “Ruddy”? Ouch.
satby
@Starfish: Family annihilaters may be mostly men who kill their families, but this lady killed one member and that counts for me.
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): I saw that too. I’m sure there’s lots more to the story, but the root of it may be (besides the mother’s mental illness) that something was “wrong” with the boy that she needed to “save” him from. Sad, sad, sad.
Mike E
@Yatsuno: Well, you’re history’s worst monster for not feeling those feelz! ;-)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@FlipYrWhig: @Amir Khalid: Ruddy is I believe the gomer-in-chief at NewsMax. Christopher Ruddy?
Cervantes
@Amir Khalid:
No, that’s probably Christopher Ruddy — but I’m not checking.
FlipYrWhig
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Cervantes: Oh, I thought it was a typo for “Rudy.” Still the bridge part is kinda funny.
WereBear
@Violet: Aaaaack.
I feel squicky just thinking about the “ministering” this guy would apply.
In other news: I have a request for anyone who has used dictation software on the Mac? Yes, I’m thinking of getting Dragon 4.
I don’t want the helm of the Starship Enterprise. I just want to say things and have them show up as text I can then edit. Simple.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@FlipYrWhig: I can’t keep track, but Ruddy has pretty strong feelings about different Republicans. You can often tell whom (just for the hyper vigilant) he likes and doesn’t from the headlines. I guess he’s on Team Christie this week.
steve
“There’s no doubt in my military mind that my son would be alive and well today if The State of Kansas would have given a ****,” he added. “There’s no doubt.”
Hmm….I wonder if nthey have staffing problems at the dept. of families and children…..you know, what with the Brownback gutting the budget because his Koch-brothers inspired miracle failed to materialize after cutting taxes to ridiculous levels.
Villago Delenda Est
Why couldn’t Mrs. Erickson have done us all a tremendous favor and stabbed her son to send him to heaven when he was 10?
CONGRATULATIONS!
@steve: It’s all good, they’re going to take every state employee’s pension to cover the shortfall. Problem solved, hippie. Conservatism works!
@Villago Delenda Est: Couldn’t get through all the lard around his fat fuck neck. Yeah, I went there.
chopper
i know. the dow is over 17000, unemployment is under 6%, putin and the ruble are collapsing, the wars in afghanistan and iraq are basically over, gay rights are going gangbusters (gay marriage is legal all over the damn place), we’re making friends with cuba FFS, the health care system is getting better for once.
what kind of shithole country is this? fucking bitches screwing everything up.
chopper
@CONGRATULATIONS!:
to be fair, that’s a defense mechanism for right-wing assholes. cover your neck in fat while complaining about how “womens these days ain’t hot enough for my high standards”.
Helen
@GregB: I heard he hasn’t. I read it on the internet so it must be true.
different-church-lady
WINGNUT #1: America is awesome!
WINGNUT #2: America is in ruins!
Make up your damn minds, wingnuts.
LAC
Ericsson needs to get a bra for his man boobs and shut the fuck up already.
Matt McIrvin
The whole notion of heaven and hell as infinite reward/punishment has this problem with children below the age of accountability, if you really take it seriously. If God will actually send children to hell for their sins (either original sin or the regular type), then God is a monster. But if children get an automatic pass below some cut-off age, why let them live to adulthood and risk eternal damnation? Of course, *you* could go to hell for killing them, but wouldn’t any loving parent make that sacrifice to save their children from a literally infinite punishment?
Usually, I suppose that even people who believe in hell don’t have the schizotypal level of certainty that would be required to take this step. But it ought to suggest that there’s at least something seriously wrong with the whole idea. (Infinite rewards and punishments tend to mess up game-theoretic expectation-value calculations: see Pascal’s wager.)
I think the non-doctrinal Catholic lore of limbo might have been invented as a workaround for the problem.
Jane2
@SiubhanDuinne: Agree…and unfortunately, the state welfare authorities will likely manage to wiggle out of culpability.
Citizen_X
@chopper: Princess Leia proved that neck fat is no defense against strangulation, so it won’t help Jabba. Er, Erickson.
Sorry, I get them confused.
Marc
@beth: This.
Mike E
@different-church-lady: Schrödinger’s America.
SRW1
@Cervantes:
All I can make out is that Erikson is angry with Obama because he was mean to his mancrush Vladimir.
nastybrutishntall
Why Erikson keeps publicly lamenting the micropeen God saw fit to bestow him is baffling. Keep it together, man.
PurpleGirl
There have been family annilhilators for many years. And the usual answer they give as to why they killed whoever it is, that “they wanted to send them to heaven.” They often kill their whole family… mothers, aunts, wife, children, basically anyone who is in the family home.
Erick son of Erick needs to look it up before opening his mouth.
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: Why do any Democrats go on Fox News in general? Seems like a waste of time. The fact that there are too many Black children born out of wedlock is something that racists like O’Reilly only bring up because they hate Black people. It’s not like they’re coming up with suggestions to help the situation. They support politicians and policies which hurt those children — including supporting stupid abstinence-only education for public schools. Perhaps less Black teens would be having children if they were properly educated and had access to birth control.
And O’Reilly needs to look around and see that plenty of White teens are having kids too. He should wear a t-shirt saying, “I’m a douche bag and I run my mouth all the time”.
SFAW
If that the same Ericksdottir who talked about getting his wife’s shotgun in case one o’ them librul community organizizers (or some such) came to his door?
Fucking candy-ass.
SFAW
@Patricia Kayden:
Self-awareness has been bred out of the Rethug gene pool, you know.
RaflW
@Iowa Old Lady:
Those people are downers, man. Why talk to them, I mean, they’ll say things like “torture is inhumane and degrades the perpetrator as much or more than the tortured.” Who wants to hear that.
RaflW
@chopper:
Minnesota’s unemployment rate dropped to 3.7%. Scotty Walker’s WI has also seen a drop. All the way down to 5.2%.
Too bad we have a Democratic governor here in MN!
Rand Careaga
@Cervantes: You must have burrowed for that. But thanks.