George Zimmerman has been arrested again for doing horrible things with a firearm:
George Zimmerman — the man acquitted by a Florida jury over the death of Trayvon Martin — was arrested Friday in Florida on suspicion of aggravated assault and domestic violence with a weapon, local authorities said.
The 31-year-old Florida man was arrested by police in Lake Mary around 10 p.m. and booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, according to that facility’s website. That facility, like its website, is run by the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office.
His victim was white, so he might be convicted this time.
Congratulations peckerwood nation- look at your hero now.
He should be the poster boy for gun control.
Let’s wait until he dies a hero’s death before we print the posters.
No, he should serve as the face of the NRA. His mug shot with the statement, “Je suis NRA” at the bottom.
Big ole hound
“Peckerwood Nation”. Love it. The Z-man must take a gun with him to the shitter.
@debbie: “Je suis NRA.” You called it.
Incidentally, haven’t found either of our remembered Charlie Hebdo cartoons during a few desultory searches. Will keep looking. They’re out there somewhere.
Tumbrel for Hire
This guy is a 5-ton sack of Haribo sugar-free gummi bears.
As an agnostic, I usually say “I have no problem with the idea of God*, but His* fan club is another story”.
Well, George Zimmerman and his fan club? You folks who chose this jagoff as your hero? Hahahaha.
Compare that to Carmen Miranda, from the Miranda Rights**. I’m too young to have firsthand knowledge, but it seems we liberals didn’t put her up on a pedestal. Rather, it was “Everyone, guilty or not, deserves this basic respectful treatment in this country. If it can happen to a lowlife criminal, I can imagine it happening to me.”
(*Yeah, a bit of latent Catholic upbringing showing, combined with the people I end up talking religion with in meatspace. Your belief system may vary in capitalization, number, gender, and existance, and I thoroughly respect yours.)
(**This isn’t the same Miranda?)
The Miranda rights Miranda was Ernesto Miranda.
@ThresherK: no, it isn’t the same Miranda.
Edited to add: and the conservatives of the day were not happy with that ruling. Activist judges!
Not that I’m against the right to wear fruit. Right up there with the right to counsel, IMHO.
It’s a reasonable assumption (as, for that matter, would be the assumption that the victim is female), but do we actually know this yet? I’ve seen nothing in any of the news coverage so far that says anything about race or gender of the victim.
Edit: I am guessing he’ll be convicted anyway this time around. His history of, I think it’s three DV incidents, and a couple of road rage episodes, all since he was acquitted for Trayvon, is just too compelling at this point.
See? Ernesto is all but forgotten. point proven.
@SiubhanDuinne: yeah I’m not sure if victim is white, but I believe both his wife and the last GF who said he had his gun on her were both white women
Not unless they brought her up on charges of fruit abuse.
Just checked Google Images again and they’re not there. I thought Google had everything!
I’ll get the design dept right on it. The t-shirt will go platinum in 24hrs or less.
hells littlest angel
George Zimmerman should die in prison, preferably while serving a 30-day sentence.
I linked to the story and it was as clear as mud what they were reporting. The report kept going over past events. At the end it sort of stumbled vaguely across what is maybe what he did this time as in pulling a gun on some guy in the heat of an argument and shouting (ala Snowshoe Snookie) “Do you know who I am?”
No doubt he’ll get 30 days, a year probation and a $3,000 fine that he can’t pay ’cause he’s a homeless boob. Maybe he can hock his gun. Anything that gets that thing away from the idiot would be a good thing, for him and the rest of the civilized world.
None of which are admissible before sentencing.
@hells littlest angel: NO! Don’t become them.
No doubt he’ll get 30 days, a year probation and a $3,000 fine…
Aggravated assault with a gun in the state of Florida is a minimum sentence of 3 years. If you fire the gun it’s 20 years.
Can we officially now start referring to George as a “thug”?
@Craig: Only if he is convicted for said offense. My ex’s husband had 4 1st degree assault charges filed against him after beating her up, fighting with my 16 yr old son when he got between them (and losing… badly) and then trying to run them over with his truck.
He pleaded guilty to one charge of endangering the welfare of a minor, 2 years probation with his record wiped clean upon successful completion. Because he was such an upstanding citizen and pillar of the community.
As long as anyone has heard of him, he’s been a thug.
@beth: No. He doesn’t wear hoodies.
thalarctos (not the other one)
@Baud: To elaborate, your Carmen Miranda rights concern your right to wear fruit on your head while singing. Certainly important, but not necessarily protected by the Constitution.
Right. I’m pretty sure this victim is white, too. I was just tweaking John for stating as fact something that AFAICT hasn’t been reported nor is it indicated on the arrest document.
I see I’m actually going from yelling at John for making an assumption, to making an assumption of my own — that Z’s history would be well known to the sentencing judge and would likely influence (or at least inform) the judge’s decision. Mea culpa, that is an injustice to the bench, and I apologize.
Only if he is convicted for said offense.
Well, no kidding. If everyone drops charges then he won’t be prosecuted. I was responding to the comment that stated he would get 30 days for an aggravated assault charge.
These chickens have a way of coming home to roost, don’t they?
Hard for me not to see the same thing happening with everyone clamoring to publish Charlie Hedbo cartoon, too. This isn’t going to end well.
I bet he was in fear for his life again. It happens all the time to him. Twice prior to murdering Martin and now three times after, and he’s only 31.
I wonder if police still assure him he’s “the good guy” when they interview him. That was really a high point in their unbiased, hard-hitting interview. Later, the shooter and the police officer wonder “what set him off?” given that Martin had no history of violence, unlike the shooter. They’re discussing the victim.
Is he going to get Man of the Year from the NRA at long last?
To clear up, it IS admissible during sentencing, (or at least it is in MO) but this
Made me think you thought it would count towards his conviction. My bad.
Why do all these people keep terrorising poor George Zimmerman?
@Baud: @ThresherK: LOL 10 points for the Rubyfruit Jungle reference! (Wait, what, that wasn’t it?)
It’s practically an Onion article.
I keep hoping this guy ends up on #GUNFAIL. Talk about fitting.
Except, that’s not what @Fred: said:
Just waiting for him to be put in General Population.
When the hell is he going to learn that you only get acquitted if you KILL them!?
It is extraordinary how the GOP wants to attach themselves to a “hero” before ever figuring out who that person is. Joe the “Plumber”, Sarah Palin, George Zimmerman… It’s only a matter of time before Darren Wilson shoots up a wedding.
@Hawes: You forgot David Petraeus and Vladimir Putin.
@Hawes: Shooting up weddings is most efficiently done with drones.
Those police interviews are great. It’s like he’s talking to his defense attorney. The police poke holes in his story and then lay out a better one for him.
They’re talking about the victim here, because police have a problem. The victim doesn’t have a history of violence and the shooter does.
“What set him off?” Serino asked. “There will be a question forever in everybody’s mind.”
Nothing Zimmerman said made any sense so the detective decides that it is unknowable. Okay, then! Wrap that up!
If FLA is like MN then those events can be considered for sentencing, just not for convicting. Generally there is a standard guideline that sets the ‘normal’ but has a range. The judge will get a pre-sentencing report that will include history of the defendant and can even have opinions about the potential to re offend. For that the judge has discretion to deviate. If he goes above ‘normal’ the defense can ask for a review by a higher court.
Make sure it’s 100% cotton. Polyester’s for the other side.
@Schlemazel: Yes, as I clarified @ 33
Someone forget to play bad cop!
So he apparently threw a wine bottle at a girlfriend during an argument. Out on $5000 bond and has to surrender his firearms pending another hearing on Tuesday. I guess we’ll have to wait until he kills someone again before he gets put behind bars where he belongs.
@thalarctos (not the other one):
*Cough*First Amendment right*cough*.
And yes, I sang that, while dancing with fruit on my head.
No guns involved, though he has to surrender them. He threw a wine bottle. Bailed out by for $5K.
I like that the jail is on Bush Blvd.
this is why criminals need to be jailed when they commit crimes :[
he’s gotten off at least 3 times already.
I’m not sure I read that interview the same way. One very effective interrogation technique is to lie to the suspect that youre going to be fine, we’re pretty sure you didn’t do anything wrong, but can you just clear up this one little point that sticks out and doesn’t make sense…
The detective seemed to me to be trying to elicit an admission that GZ had tried to detain TM, making GZ the aggressor.
@PhilbertDesanex: Since Zimmerman is broke, who pays the ten percent to the bondsman. BTW, If I were a bondsman, I’d be concerned he would be a flight risk.
Where could George Zimmerman hope to flee? The whole planet knows who he is and what he looks like.
Oh, I know: he could disguise himself with a hoodie.
Which ones are you looking for?
Even the peckerwoods are getting tired of Zimmerman
It took him this long to rack up another offense?
@thalarctos (not the other one):
I knew somebody would get there before me.
In a just world the girlfriend would have stood her ground.
If he is ever sent to jail, I hope they let him have his blankie and, if he really wants it, a pacifier.
What are the odds that she won’t press charges? Pretty good I think. Although they could still charge him, without her testimony, it would be difficult to convict him. Once again, he’ll whine to some talk radio host and another female will become attracted to George the Victim.
I can’t think of anyone for whom the right to remain silent would have been less relevant than Ms. Miranda.
Where in the world is she, by the way?
@JPL: Flight risk, yeah, but he is pretty well-known, and I wonder after enjoying all the fame whether he could handle being a nobody somewhere. Who pays? Vinnie the loan shark would suit me. Jeez even the Freeperland is getting skeptical of GZ.
Mike in NC
The NYPD needs to hire Zim as a motivational speaker.
In a just world, he’d already be in jail. In this unjust world, cant they at least prohibit him from possessing/buying guns? I know they confiscated them for now but I mean permanently.
Howard Beale IV
@beth: Now if there’s ever a good case for civil asset forfeiture this should be it. Money? Cars? no. Firearms? Fuck yeah.
Carmen Miranda died in 1955.
Thank you for asking!
I think Debbie is looking for a cartoon with an AK47 pointed at a broken pencil, that’s spilled red pencil lead. I believe the pencil and lead is a photo in that illustration.
I saw a cartoon — graphite and red ink — of a jihadist (like ISIS) beheading a pencil.
We both think we saw the cartoons on TV — I’m thinking BBC America World News for mine, and they don’t turn up in the roundups of the usual cartoon suspects, tributes in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo murders.
Any help much appreciated! Or just share the tribute cartoons you’ve found most meaningful.
(And that would make a great thread.)
Has rightwing media even mentioned Zimmerman’s latest arrest? I thought it was “George who?” long ago after he was of no use to them anymore.
He’s just a poor boy from a poor family. Spare him his life from this monstrosity!
Gin & Tonic
@Cervantes: She’s in São João Batista Cemetery in Rio, where she’s been for nearly 60 years.
@Gin & Tonic:
You missed the joke … the reference to a different Carmen as opposed to a different Miranda.
No need to fret — it was not one of my better attempts.
Don’t want to sound like a Nice Guy, but who the hell chooses to date this man?
@Elizabelle: I think Buzzfeed had an article showing the best cartoons. I think that’s where I saw the ones you’ve mentioned.
Gin & Tonic
@Cervantes: Oh. I see.
That Trayvon or George they were singing about?
I get that interpretation but the detective almost has to say that because Zimmerman’s injuries aren’t consistent with his story and his claim that he wasn’t pursuing Martin is (to me) ludicrous. At one point he says “i was walking behind but not following him” which makes one of the detectives in one of the interviews laugh.
I think he did try to detain Martin and Martin fought back and Zimmerman panicked and shot him. Martin throwing off Zimmerman IS consistent with Zimmerman banging his head. I think that’s why the detective offered that explanation. It’s the most likely explanation.
I don’t agree with the caricature of Martin that was presented. I don’t even think he fits “seriously troubled teen” quite honestly, let alone someone who would double back and surprise- attack Zimmerman for absolutely no reason other than Martin’s inherent, yet never expressed, violent nature. Martin wasn’t doing anything wrong. He wasn’t covering up a crime. He was where he was supposed to be.
Haven’t heard peckerwood or peckerhead since I was in the service, stationed in Charleston. A perfect description though.
It’s FL, you think he’s going to have to worry about the court handing him his ass? Don’t know what you have to do there to get actual jail time but judging by his record, quite a bit seems to be the standard.
I don’t think I have ever seen a more clear example of a Lady MacBeth complex. Zimmerman feels unclean and is going to keep repeating these acts until someone punishes him.
My husband does criminal defense and he was a prosecutor and he said the defense would make the trial about gun rights and the jury would come back based on their opinions on gun rights and I think he was right.
All true. You aren’t the first to point this out but the real issue is you probably won’t be anywhere near the end of the line either.
@beth: Thank you. Debbie’s cartoon is #16, but mine’s still awol.
And I still smile at the cartoon with the cartoonists arriving in Heaven and the lord facepalming: oh no, not them.
I had not seen that before I replied – thanks
@Elizabelle: You’re welcome. I thought yours was #5 but I guess it’s not a pencil he beheaded. Some good work there though.
Tara the Antisocial Social Worker
For domestic violence? You’re more likely to see somebody serve time for loitering.
Why are so many men with habitual inclinations to become assaultive toward the women who are their wives or girlfriends, able to attract these women in the first place?
Lots of sociopaths who harbor a viciously exploitative, abusive mean streak paradoxically also have the ability to show a disarmingly charming side as well – but you’d think women should still more often be warily on-guard toward a guy with known history of violent incidents toward others. However, too many (not all, just too many) seem to get seduced by the charming side into ignoring, denying, rationalizing, or forgiving the dark side lurking within the guy.
Thanks to Beth for the link and to Elizabelle for a stellar memory!
@thalarctos (not the other one): A far more important right than the one allegedly proclaimed by the second amendment to my way of thinking!
J R in WV
A wine bottle! He had a gun but used a harmless wine bottle instead! What a difficult yet moral compromise Z-man made there.
Her manfully refused to pull his piece and instead laboriously emptied a wine bottle to use instead!
How Heroic to refuse to use the real weapon and repurpose a common everyday household implement, a wine bottle/candlestick holder to attack a vicious female attacker!
What a guy! A hero for our age! derp, fxxzxt derp. What are the odds the NRA will expel him for not using the gun?
This is a man that says he forgot he was armed, despite numerous things that should have jogged his memory. Says he forgot the name of the street that circled his neighborhood, which was Retreat View Circle.
Now he forgets he was awake and not in a nightmare and then starts some domestic violence, allegedly.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Geeno: Am I the only one who saw “this is not the right Miranda” and the original response as wonderful wit? And am I mistaken? (Late to the party as usual).
@cmorenc: There’s also a shitload of women (men, too) who just need to be in a relationship to prove they’re loved and lovable. Never mind how obviously toxic that relationship is destined to be; and I think sociopaths excel at identifying that desperation and exploiting it.
@debbie: That was funny! It made laugh, I mean, seriously.
ZImmerman was like this before shooting Trayvon, he was like this after he was acquitted, he remains like this because he is an Angry Guy and Angry Guys do not stop until they’re forced to, in death or in the morgue.
I wrote this in 2013… back when he had a domestic violence incident with his then-girlfriend (is this the same woman he’s assaulted now?)… http://noticeatrend.blogspot.com/2013/11/another-moment-in-annals-of-angry-guy.html
@jayboat: ,@Tiny Tim:
I was wondering that too.
Would John get sued if Balloon Juice put out a Tee shirt with Zimmerman’s mug shot and “Je suis NRA” underneath it?
Because I think that would sell like hotcakes. Advertise it on Wonkette, too. Be a lot of pets eating and sleeping better as a result.
Laughter is the best way to get back at some of this insanity, and GZ and the NRA is a twofer. (Plus: animal rescue!)
@Elizabelle: I saw them too. For some reason, I think it was on Rachel’s show (but that seems out of character for MSNBC). Nothing turned up when I tried to search there though (no time to look through a bunch of videos).
This is the one I think you’re thinking of.
Dunno if there’s a larger one available – TinEye or GoogleImageSearch might help.
He could definitely get away with using it on a Je suis Fox News T-shirt.
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Elizabelle – you were right – it was the BBC.
Here – play the main 2:20 video.
As you can imagine, a number of people had that same idea. I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet found one example. Here is another. If what you’re looking for is neither of these, let me know.
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
It’s how I saw it, fwiw.
Considering some of the Obama shirts and bumper stickers I’ve seen, I can’t imagine it would be actionable.
Well, in his defense, he had to say he was looking for a street sign because there was no other reason for him to get out of the car – as terrified of the unarmed cell phone-chatting-teenager as he says he was.
Must add that the tshirt is a must, as all the NRA chat has conjured a “join now and get this NRA pocket knife” ad in the LH page column.
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: That’s the cartoon, exactly.
It’s the most foreboding one I’ve seen; chilling.
Thank you for finding it.
I’m not sure/Scott found the one I’d seen. Thank you for finding an alternative take.
Appreciate all of you for going to the effort to find the cartoons!
You’re welcome. Not much trouble at all.
Steve from Antioch
Contrast this with the other post nearby about Charlie Hebdo.
It’s possible to believe that the people behind Charlie Hebdo are a bunch of immature pricks while abhorring the attack on them, just like its possible to believe that George Zimmerman is an asshole while still understanding that the jury’s verdict was not unsupported.
Of course, its much easier to just vomit out emotion-driven slogans one has stored up to deal with every situation.
@Baud: Carmen Miranda was a movie star, particulars musicals with a Latin theme, in the 1940s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmen_Miranda Far as I know, never needed a rights warning. Wikipedia, it’s a beautiful thing.
I think it was a winebottle….
It’s a good thing the police and court system took this incorrigible, bloodthirsty criminal off the streets, before he really hurt someone…. No wait. Never mind.
@ThresherK: Carmen Miranda was a flamboyant actress/singer. Ernesto Miranda was the one who didn’t have his rights stated when he was arrested.
@Elizabelle: I would totally buy that shirt.
From the movie Red Heat:
Russian cop played by Ahnold: Do you know Miranda?
Scuzzy guy: Never heard of the bitch!
(Ahnold punches the sh-t out Scuzzy guy)
When he died, Ernesto Miranda had autographed copies of Miranda Warning cards in his pocket.
Raven on the Hill
I think Z’s exes should form a club. Or perhaps buy clubs.
@Raven on the Hill: They should form a club club!
Anybody interested in the abusive-guy relationship pattern that Zimmerman demonstrates here should read Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men.
All of you Miranda pedants might consider getting a humor booster shot. The joke “tell” was right there in ThresherK’s original message. (“This isn’t the same Miranda?”)
Justice served and George Zimmerman should suffer in prison!
Still, it’s a good thing she still has fans, I guess.
@Amir Khalid: @Amir Khalid:
Why do these men keep sucking my cock?
I’ll say it again, it’s as if thise guy wants to be punished for some crime that went unpunished.
Some of the conservatives of today aren’t happy with it either. Both Scalia and Thomas voted to reverse Miranda as recently as 2000.
@cahuenga: If only she had been armed.