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Happy Burns day

by Tim F|  January 25, 20156:54 pm| 35 Comments

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The great Scot and poet Robert Burns would be two hundred and fifty-five-six years old today. Of his poems that you will find set to music on YouTube Ae Fond Kiss could be my favorite.

I would love to see Address to the Toothache set to metal, but you can’t always get what you want.

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  1. 1.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    January 25, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    “…but you can’t always get what you want.”

    Can you get what you need?

  2. 2.

    Amir Khalid

    January 25, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    @Snarki, child of Loki:
    If you try, sometimes you do.

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    Tim, thank you for this.

  4. 4.

    celticdragonchick

    January 25, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    Haggis pockets for everybody! (They are actually quite good )

  5. 5.

    mellowjohn

    January 25, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    from Krugman’s blog last thursday:

    Paging Mr. Burns

    This Bloomberg report from Davos is making the rounds:

    Billionaire Jeff Greene, who amassed a multibillion dollar fortune betting against subprime mortgage securities, says the U.S. faces a jobs crisis that will cause social unrest and radical politics.

    “America’s lifestyle expectations are far too high and need to be adjusted so we have less things and a smaller, better existence,” Greene said in an interview today at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “We need to reinvent our whole system of life.”

    Later in the article:

    Greene, who flew his wife, children and two nannies on a private jet plane to Davos for the week …

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 25, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    Lang may yer lum reek!

  7. 7.

    JPL

    January 25, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    OT.. Does anyone have news on John’s pups?

    Beautiful poem and beautiful song

  8. 8.

    Pogonip

    January 25, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    And happy Robert Burns Day to you too! If I could, I’d have some Scotch in his honor.

    It’s been an auld lang time since we’ve had a pupdate.

  9. 9.

    BGinCHI

    January 25, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    I love me some Robbie Burns.

    OT, but answer me this….What the fuck is wrong with people named Bachmann?

    huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/21/lutz-bachmann-pegida-hitler-photo_n_6515542.html?cps=gravity_2684_-127…

  10. 10.

    Tree With Water

    January 25, 2015 at 7:29 pm

    “The great Scot and poet Robert Burns would be two hundred and fifty-five years old today”.

    As historian Gordon Wood reminds readers of his book Revolutionary Characters, Scotland was a particularly interesting place during the that century. The American colonies shared much in common with it (both were geographic outposts of a powerful England), and our founders were profoundly influenced by Scottish intellectual movements. Wonder what Burns thought of the American experiment? Paging Mr. Google…

  11. 11.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 25, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    This is one of my favourites:

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Z8f42fF8M

    (Sorry again for the ugly link; I don’t know what has happened, but for the past month or two I have been completely unable to use the link function. Apologies.)

  12. 12.

    Svensker

    January 25, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @JPL:

    OT.. Does anyone have news on John’s pups?

    They ate John. Apparently.

  13. 13.

    HRA

    January 25, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    Happy Robert Burns Day in memory of Grandma Burns.

  14. 14.

    Corner Stone

    January 25, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    “Release the hounds!”

  15. 15.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    @Pogonip:

    I’d have some Scotch in his honor.

    Damn it, I knew I was missing something this morn.

  16. 16.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    smartypants pointing out the obvious, but it still needs to be said:

    Sunday, January 25, 2015

    Dog Whistles from the Left (updated)

    I’ve written before about how uncomfortable I am with the idea that Democrats need to figure out how to appeal to working class white voters. It’s not that I object to building a bigger coalition. My concern is the often unspoken message that appealing to the unique concerns of people of color is the wrong message.

    In an op-ed in the NYT today, Noam Scheiber makes that often unspoken argument overtly. He’s writing about Mayor Bill DeBlasio’s drop in the polls. But I don’t want to get distracted with analyzing DeBlasio’s performance. Instead, let’s pay attention to the overall message.

    From the get-go, Mr. de Blasio’s campaign fused two distinct strands of progressivism. The first was economic populism, not least his criticism that Michael R. Bloomberg had placed the interests of Wall Street and the wealthy above those of average New Yorkers.

    The second was what some have called “identity group” liberalism, which appealed to black and Latino voters as blacks and Latinos, not on the basis of economic interests they shared with whites. The centerpiece of Mr. de Blasio’s identity-group agenda was his promise to win better treatment for minorities at the hands of the police.

    The problem for Mr. de Blasio is that only the first approach has widespread appeal…

    If you were to rank issues by their potential to unite whites and minority voters, the most promising would be populist economic issues like raising taxes on the rich. Somewhere in the middle would be an issue like health care, which has large economic benefits for both whites and nonwhites, even if opponents can portray it as a sop to the latter. At the very bottom would be issues with little economic content, but which different racial groups view in radically different ways.

    What Scheiber is basically saying is that if you want to unite whites and minority voters, you have to focus on the issues that are a priority to whites. That’s pretty much white supremacy in a nutshell.

    immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/01/dog-whistles-from-left.html?spref=tw

  17. 17.

    catclub

    January 25, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    @mellowjohn: An excellent case for shooting the messenger.

  18. 18.

    Guest

    January 25, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    My favorite is Burn’s autobiographical “Rantin’ Rovin’ Robin” as done by an early incarnation of the Battlefeld Band:
    youtube.com/watch?v=OrhCYr1jNlQ

    Lyrics here:
    chivalry.com/cantaria/lyrics/rantin-rovin-robin.html

  19. 19.

    Tommy

    January 25, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    So happy to see a shout-out to Soctland. Here is a little more Scotland for you. A dude in the Isle of Skye, where my family is literally from, doing things on a mountain bike that should not be humanly possible.

    youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_IQS3VKjA

    When I watch this I think there is a reason I am a hiker/camper. That I prefer mountains to beaches. Maybe it is something in my DNA :)!

  20. 20.

    raven

    January 25, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    No Pro Bowl thread> (:

  21. 21.

    Origuy

    January 25, 2015 at 8:11 pm

    @Tree With Water:

    Wonder what Burns thought of the American experiment? Paging Mr. Google…

    Mr Google offered up “Ballad on the American War“, which isn’t particularly pro-America:

    When Guilford good our pilot stood,
    An’ did our hellim thraw, man,
    Ae night, at tea, began a plea,
    Within America, man:
    Then up they gat the maskin-pat,
    And in the sea did jaw, man;
    An’ did nae less, in full Congress,
    Than quite refuse our law, man.

    The Battle of Guilford County Courthouse was one of the pivotal battles of the Southern campaign.

  22. 22.

    JPL

    January 25, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    @raven: Sag awards on too but of course, I can’t watch either one. Fortunately, Downton Abby is on.

  23. 23.

    raven

    January 25, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    @Origuy: We had passed the exit for Cowpens a zillion times and, after working on an open source American History text, my interest was piqued and we stopped. It’s a nice National Battlefield and I’m glad we stopped.

    “In the opinion of John Marshall,[61] “Seldom has a battle, in which greater numbers were not engaged, been so important in its consequences as that of Cowpens.” It gave General Nathanael Greene his chance to conduct a campaign of “dazzling shiftiness” that led Cornwallis by “an unbroken chain of consequences to the catastrophe at Yorktown which finally separated America from the British crown.”[62]”

  24. 24.

    WaterGirl

    January 25, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    Tim, can I just say how glad I am that you un-retired from blogging?

  25. 25.

    raven

    January 25, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    @JPL: Stupid ass listings had two “New” episodes and the fist is the installment from last week.

  26. 26.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    water is wet news

    ……………..

    Black Workers With Advanced Degrees, White Workers With B.A.’s Make Roughly the Same

    by Julianne Hing, Friday, January 23 2015, 4:44 PM EST

    You’ve heard of the racial wealth gap, the racial employment gap, and surely also about racial job callback disparities. Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics offers an updated look at another dynamic of our racialized economy: the racial income gap.

    As in: In 2014, while white workers 25 years or older with at least an undergrad degree took home median earnings of $1,219 per week, similarly aged and educated Latino workers made $1,007, and Asian workers made $1,328 per week. Black workers with at least a college degree, meanwhile, posted median earnings of $970 per week.

    The racial income gap is so pronounced that black workers with an advanced degree made $1,149—roughly the same as white workers who had only a bachelor’s degree ($1,132).

    For more on what this kind of economic inequality means for the country, read Kai Wright’s in-depth look at young black men’s struggle for employment. As Wright wrote last June, “This is an inequity that grows from tangled roots—historic labor market discrimination, ongoing residential segregation, stubborn racial biases among employers. But it’s also one with consequences that stretch out beyond the men themselves, and that will linger long past today’s troubled economy.”

    colorlines.com/archives/2015/01/black_workers_with_advanced_degrees_white_workers_with_bas_make_roug…

  27. 27.

    Tree With Water

    January 25, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    @raven: Assuming you haven’t yet read it, there’s a contemporaneous account of the battle by a British soldier you’d probably find interesting (paging Mr. Google). In it, he wrote what a nasty shock it was to march into sight of the colonial riflemen resting their shooters on the wood railings of the pens..

  28. 28.

    raven

    January 25, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    @Tree With Water: Ooo, sounds good.They have a really cool presentation at the battlefield and they emphasized how worn out the Limey’s were after marching from King’s Mountain. What I found interesting was how the Americans were able to put out a call and dudes came from Georgia and Virginia. How did they do that? How did they get there?

  29. 29.

    Cervantes

    January 25, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    @Tree With Water:

    He was, with others, a radical supporter of the universal rights of man, at home and in the American Revolution. If I recall correctly, he even bought a cannon once and sent it to Paris to aid in the storming of the Bastille.

  30. 30.

    Tree With Water

    January 25, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    @raven: My father used to wonder essentially the same thing about Kit Carson. How on earth that man got around all points of the compass in the frontier west is awe inspiring, but he did it.

    By the way, their was only a single British regular at King’s Mountain. It was more of a family squabble. The redcoats who got shot up at Cowpens were marching north from Charleston (on their way to Yorktown, I’m pleased to say).

  31. 31.

    Cervantes

    January 25, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    The great Scot and poet Robert Burns would be two hundred and fifty-five years old today.

    Two hundred and fifty-six.

    Thanks for the video.

  32. 32.

    Tree With Water

    January 25, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    @Cervantes: My kind of guy.

  33. 33.

    Tim F.

    January 25, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @Cervantes: Fixd. Thanks for the correction!

  34. 34.

    Bobby B.

    January 25, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    “Ode To a Haggis” Great chieftain ‘o the pudding race!

  35. 35.

    The Other Bob

    January 26, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    Happy Birthday to me….kinda.

    Signed,

    Robert Burns.

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