CBO: Obamacare 20% cheaper than they projected; *net* +24M people will have health insurance before Obama leaves office.
— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) January 26, 2015
Cheaper, better, faster — not bad at all.
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Turgidson
But I feel so much less FREEEEEEE.
Doug r
Maybe now the Patriots can afford to check their balls more often. After every time they score, like Marshawn Lynch
rlrr
“Obamacare is a FAILURE!”
— Fox “News”
Belafon
Which is why it has to be killed.
jl
That is good news. I looked at his twitter feed for a reference and didn’t find anything. Is he talking about today’s CBO budget outlook report?
CBO: The Budget and Economic Outlook, 2015-2025
http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/49892-Outlook2015.pdf
CONGRATULATIONS!
My freedom to live in a nation without a black president has been violated for almost a decade now.
What about that, libtards? What about MY rights?
jl
@jl: Forgot to say that the CBO report has some sections consistent with the tweet. Get the pdf and do a search on ‘health’ to see how the effects of the ACA are described and how that fits into the forecasts.
Tree With Water
And 80 years out from 2015, the spiritual descendants of the long dead republican party will plot and agitate to kill Obamacare- precisely as todays republicans continually seek to kill social security, 80 years after the democratic party established it for the good of all the people, to promote the general welfare..
Cacti
But, public option!
Chopper
No Medicare for all? If you want to impress me, you’ve failed!
mb
Is it so much cheaper because of the assholes who wouldn’t expand Medicaid? If so, this isn’t going to be seen as a real savings of Ocare.
Chopper
@Cacti:
There’s room for all of us under obama’s bus!
Richard Mayhew
@jl: yes CBO report
Richard Mayhew
@mb: most of the savings is lower subsidies due to lower than expected 2nd silvers. CBO projects Medicaid will continue to slowly expand
Xantar
@Tree With Water:
But they’ll claim that they’re really trying to SAVE Obamacare by turning it into a privatized block grant.
dedc79
Was it Ben Carson who recently said that he’d be against the ACA even if it did work? Yes, yes it was (warning, politico link):
mb
@Richard Mayhew: thanks, good to know
Frankensteinbeck
@dedc79:
A fine reminder that conservatives hate the involvement of government in any aspect of their life. Interesting, isn’t it? What does the government make them do – or stop them from doing – that makes them so angry? If it were just taxes, they wouldn’t be so focused on the whole ‘the government getting involved’ part.
samiam
Obama is the worst….’socialist’ ever!
boatboy_srq
@Tree With Water: It won’t even take that long. Look at the anti-vaxxer crowd (just a couple threads earlier). And if Down With Common Core carries on much further it may take even less time.
drkrick
I assume the CBO will be withdrawing and “correcting” this report as soon as their GOP-appointed Director takes over and starts applying the new pie-in-the-sky accounting rules.
cmorenc
@drkrick:
Simplified “dynamic scoring” principles:
1) Cutting taxes ALWAYS results in increased economic activity and increased government revenue
2) Government regulation ALWAYS results in decreased economic activity and loss of freedom to choose better alternatives, and NEVER produces more optimal results than pure unregulated private enterprise. Unless the spending is for military purposes.
You can ignore all the fancy pseudo-accounting, psuedo-evidentiary dance steps “dynamic scoring” will employ to reach the desired ideological end results – the above two principles are adequate to understand any outcome it purportedly produces.
Just One More Canuck
@Frankensteinbeck: conservatives think that the only thing government should do is tell people what to do with their naughty bits
another Holocene human
@Richard Mayhew: but some people are seeing shitty coverage and high prices. Granted that’s in shitty states, but something I’d going to have to be done since these states are out to lunch
another Holocene human
@cmorenc: if that’s true then congress has been making decisions for all of us based on bullshit numbers for decades
Oh, wait
Lurking Canadian
These numbers are obviously faked by Obama’s ACORN thugs. Somebody better call the unskewed polls guy to fix them.
Turgidson
@cmorenc:
And the truth is, the Granny Starver and those like him don’t actually care about the results of their preferred policies. They just want those policies because they think the world ought to be that way, and coincidentally, their biggest donors and benefactors feel exactly the same way!
People like Paul Ryan start with their conclusion and work backwards to find support for it – take his “poverty report” as the obvious example. He took a few stray quotes out of context to defend his predetermined conclusion that anti-poverty programs don’t work, and was quickly rebuked by the authors quoted.
But the point is that they only even bother with that part because the political process demands it (sort of, and less so by the day). They still need to have some explanation, no matter how mendacious or stupid or both, for why their proposals have merit, to get elected (except in Kansas I guess). But they don’t care if cutting taxes for the rich and gutting SS and Medicare is sound policy on the merits. They just want to do it. Because they are rich, selfish assholes. Or they are being lavished with donations and special favors from rich, selfish assholes. But not because they think it’s good for the country. They don’t care about that. At all.
pluege
good thing the Cretin 5 republican hacks on SCOTUS are gonna fix that!
Shalimar
@dedc79:
Can someone please kidnap Ben Carson and hold him hostage in their basement for five years? Have him do laundry and possibly make custom craft goods while he is down there so he will have some fucking clue what slavery is actually like. Thanks.
Zinsky
If Democrats were better at messaging they would frame a response to our conservative friends about Obamacare this way, “Why do you think it makes America a better country to deny access to affordable health care to your fellow Americans?”
Jado
@Frankensteinbeck:
The government hires people to administrate things like the ACA, without regard to skin color or family pedigree. How are the RWNJs supposed to keep all the money for themselves, their family, and their friends if it is PUBLIC money going to PUBLIC employees?
Hell, some of those government employees are BLACK!!!