Don Lemon, professional journamalist:
That's a smallpox vaccine bruh MT @donlemon: My #measles shot scar from childhood. Do we still need it?. pic.twitter.com/MA2R8jtj8C"
— Erin Gloria Ryan (@morninggloria) February 3, 2015
Aspiring theological student & sometimes news commentater:
Media herd first goes to contraception, then to global warming, and now to vaccinations.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) February 3, 2015
Just a little push and the idea of herd immunity becomes another Obongo Socialistic Unfreedom. It's fine. We're fine. http://t.co/srALvBRwtA
— David Roth (@david_j_roth) February 3, 2015
Joe Sonka mines the Infowars comment section, so we don’t have to:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. #Liberty pic.twitter.com/DHSOiTqjmw
— Joe Sonka (@joesonka) February 4, 2015
InfoWars commenter hopes they didn't actually shoot Illuminati vaccine into Rand Paul, so he can live to be president pic.twitter.com/kZtk4mdzfB
— Joe Sonka (@joesonka) February 4, 2015
And because revenge is sweet, a satirist from Nigeria checks in…
Our thoughts are also with the measles-ravaged country America. I hope we are screening them before they come to Africa.
— Elnathan John (@elnathan) February 1, 2015
Jesus, I thought this would be nonsense just a politician trying to play both sides and making an ass of himself. I was wrong, they actually will go all freedom and liberty on the most basic bit of reality because liberals said they are wrong.
Sadly, there is no vaccine for curing Political Correctness.
We’re going to just have to thin the herd the old fashioned way.
In my dream of dreams, Pres. Facist-Socialist-Nazi-Muslim Obama comes to the podium tomorrow, in front of the big Presidential Seal and American flags and says, “I believe all Americans should breathe oxygen at regular intervals. Breathe with me, now my brothers and sisters, in…and out…in…and out”
Please, please, please.
Does anyone have a good resource for healthy denial and avoiding our sorry ass political discourse? Do we really need a measles vaccine? Really? It makes an ugly scar?
Please. I need guaranteed mindless distraction. Something that will get me through the winter.
Am I a bad person if I kinda think it would be funny if Rand Paul ended up autistic from his vaccine today?
OH MY GOD, IDEA FOR BEST/WORST PRACTICAL JOKE EVER.
You do have a nice sense of humor.
There’s always pictures of nude people on the internet.
Totally sane cluster.
@TaMara (BHF): President Commie/Fascist Obummer would be saying Comrades not Brothers and Sisters. Just sayin’ Also, he doesn’t do the American flag thang, remember?
Smallpox, measles, ebola, what’s the difference?
@Suzanne: Seriously, I’ve always heard the anti-vaxxers say they don’t want their special snowflakes getting vaccines because their young immune system can’t handle the viral load at that young age. I’m assuming that means that they can handle the viral load when they’re a little older so why can’t these kids get their damn vaccines,like at say, 6-8ish, even spread out or whatever???
Shoot, the Illuminati are gonna be so freaked out when they realize how many of us service folk have Anthrax vaccine as well. Wait….maybe that’s the plan. My lizard brain can’t even keep up.
Thank you for using his tweet. It made me laugh. His turnabout is fair play.
gotta love the folks that believe in the science of internet connectivity from their cell phone and the ability to share any and all information with the click of a button, but old school stuff to keep you disease free is a bridge too far. A shot scar that is usually covered by a shirt sleeve is unattractive yet inking and piercing up is seen as aesthetically pleasing. Strange dichotomy of positions it seems or just another example of the strength of the echo chamber…
Easily mistaken for a tattoo of Bobby Jindal.
@PurpleGirl: It was good.
Remember when Cole said Rand Paul and Fat Christie would be formidable contenders in 2016.
@piratedan: Some mothers had their daughters’ smallpox vaccination done on the inside of their arms, so that they wouldn’t have an ugly scar where it would show. I have one heck of a scar because they had to repeat mine; the first one didn’t take.
Boy, I take it back. Now that I see the video footage of that crash in Taiwan, it was definitely an attempt to land and a hell of an effort on the part of that pilot to hit the river and not the highway. Positive thoughts toward the injured.
Tree With Water
The Vietnamese are such a great people. I mean that. From Yahoo sports:
“..Vu Le, a 33-year-old Vietnamese immigrant who runs a Seattle nonprofit, knew nothing about professional sports when he started cheering for the Seahawks during the team’s Super Bowl run last year. On his blog, he tried to draw lessons from the loss for the nonprofit world, spelling out what he called Seattle’s ”stages of grief”: ”Denial, Righteous Anger, Hot Yoga, Organic Juice Cleanse, Bargaining at a Farmer’s Market, Composting, Existential Despair, Biking to Happy Hour, and Acceptance of Marijuana.”
But how is the evil gubbmint gonna insert the tracking/snooping bio-chips if people refuse to get inoculation shots?
(Need it be said ? /snark)
@Tree With Water: LOL! He has captured the essence of living in Seattle.
Finally defriended someone tonight that I’ve known since I was 15 – it’s a 37 year relationship.
Couldn’t take the libertarianism and racism in his anti-vax position, not anymore. I’m godfather to his oldest daughter, was in his wedding, considered him very close at one time, handled his dad’s estate, advised him about his divorce, etc.
There would be a perceptible difference from the way he is now?
Hey, Botsplainer, how are things? Any news on the domestic front?
On the news tonight it was reported that an unvaccinated foreign traveller who recently stayed in a hotel in Seattle and has now come down with measles. People who stayed in the hotel are being contacted and warned that they could break out as late as two weeks from now.
@Morzer: Did he get vaccinated? Really? I thought it was just a joke.
@mai naem: When they’re “tiny”, those special snowflake offspring are too frail to have their little bodies assaulted by vaccine toxins. Once they’re “older” (age of the switch varies according to the parental preference), their immune systems are so robust that they don’t need the vaccines, because they’ll just fight off infection better without (you guessed it) interference from artificial toxins.
Jam yesterday, jam tomorrow, but never jam today: the medical version.
@opiejeanne: Nope, he actually got a Hep-A booster Tuesday afternoon, so he can continue playing both sides against the middle. It’s about “choice”, y’see, and he “chose” to try putting the PAUL AGAINST VACCINES headlines to rest while still wink-winking at the InfoWar demographic about the Lie-brul media…
@Botsplainer: I have the exact situation, best friend at 15, usher at wedding, godparent relationship, got him through a very nasty divorce. I guess bitterness at the world has made him a tea partier who hates liberals more than he loves anything else, and it is quite depressing. No anti-vaxxing, at least yet.
Tree With Water
It must have been one heckuva of a sleeping pill. TMZ is reporting:
Paris Hilton’s younger brother Conrad Hilton has been arrested after allegedly flipping out on passengers during an international flight this past July.. The Hilton heir, 20, reportedly freaked out on the flight, threatening fellow travelers and flight attendants; at one point.. he was acting so out of control, he had to be handcuffed to his seat.
“I will f—king own anyone on this flight; they are f—king peasants,” Hilton reportedly was heard shouting, as well as “I am going to f—king kill you,” and “I will f—king rip through you.”..[W]itnesses told officials that Hilton grabbed a flight attendant by the shirt and said: “I could get you all fired in five minutes. I know your boss! My father will pay this out. He has done it before. [My] dad paid $300,000 last time.”
The cause of the outburst remains unknown. However, Hilton did admit to taking a sleeping pill.
@Tree With Water:
I find it interesting that Korea is prosecuting the “nut-rage” perpetrator and seeking a 3 year sentence, whereas young Master Hilton will basically get away with his despicable behavior.
American exceptionalism saves the world again!
Tree With Water
@Morzer: Even then, I suspect the outrage directed at the ‘nut rage heiress’ is more a case of bad timing on her part than not. Prior to the great tragedy last year when those poor kids perished by drowning on that cargo ship, her behavior would have gone as good as unnoticed.
@Tree With Water:
I don’t think so. A lot of Koreans are very angry about the behavior of the chaebol and the various princes/princesses who own them or are related to their owners – and that anger has only grown stronger since 2008. Her behavior also reminded people of some of the worst of the “feudal” mindset that the Korean rich express in a variety of crass and insulting ways.
@Anne Laurie: Thanks for the clarification.
A Hep A booster. I had Hepatitis C and before I could be treated they had me get vaccinated for everything they could think of, and that was one of the series. I think that one is a series of three injections spaced out over several months.
The protocol for treatment at the time, 2005, was for weekly injections of a tiny amount of Interferon, and daily handfuls of Ribavirin pills. During that year I was very anemic, extremely so, and they hovered on the brink of hospitalizing me for months. They treated that with weekly injections of a form of human albumin called ProCrit, which is a nasty shot. Really nasty, but because my liver couldn’t process iron properly it had to be treated that way. By the end my white blood count was way down too and I joked that I just had water in my veins.
I was their poster child for Hep C type 4, I was the success story; the treatment worked for me, and I was the first success out of the eight patients with that rare form. They had treated thousands with types 1-3 at that clinic, but only 8 of us with type 4.
I’m thinking that maybe I should get boosters for everything again. It’s been ten years and the treatment may have stripped most of my immunity. It’s time for a tetanus shot at the very least.
@Anne Laurie: Oh, and what a total jerk he is.
@opiejeanne: The wife had interferon 3 days a week in addition to daily handfuls of Ribavirin pills for her Hep-C. I got pretty good at doing injections.
another Holocene human
@opiejeanne: Damn, Elnathan John was more right than he knew.
Ugh I hope my mmr response holds on. All these vpi around are freaking me and my weak immune system out.
Do I get this right: The imbecile is asking in the midst of an outbreak of measles?
@Tree With Water:
Yet more evidence of the risks of being raised filthy rich. Being raised upper-middle class is a huge advantage in succeeding in the world. But ultra-rich? They mostly seem to turn out losers, addicts, etc.
Another Holocene Human
@SRW1: It’s the CNN fauxtroversy format “keep those tweets coming, hashtag-itllhappenthistime”, like the CNN version of a slatepitch, it has invaded Don Lemon’s soul. oooo-OOOOO-oooo
@EconWatcher: If you’d like another good example of how the children of the ultra-rich turn out, read up on the kids of Sheldon Adelson (at least one of whom has already died, if I remember correctly). He actually got sued by at least one of his kids, claiming (on what possible theory, I don’t know) that they were legally entitled to continuing support from him…as adults. No matter how much money you accumulate, you can’t consider your life a success if your kids turn out that way.
I wonder if Piyush Jindal has been vaccinated?
Right now, in an uncomfortable limbo. Neither truly together nor truly apart. Had what I thought was a breakthrough on Friday when she realized I was actively seeking out apartments in the area of downtown that is my dream hipster life. Then, some regressions as she remembers that she feels like she’s supposed to be mad at me.
As somebody pointed out to me, I need to ask her what she’s been bringing to our marriage for the past year, and to tell her that mere presence doesn’t cut it, nor will it moving forward.
@Botsplainer: Am so sorry you are going through this. Think counselling might work? Have been and will continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts.
There was an article somewhere recently which speculated as to whether Erick Son of Erick was mellowing, maturing, growing up…I’m happy to see that such is not the case, it’s good to be able to count on things.
@Botsplainer: The see-saw is almost more depressing than outright estrangement. I also hope you consider counseling, for yourself even if your wife won’t go. It really helps to have a third party to process all that with.
I would move to a new apartment as soon as possible. That way it gets real for her – and you get to discover how you feel about the situation without being influenced either way by her presence. I hope things work out so that you can both make decisions that are good for you.
He got the GOP vaccine. It whitens the skin, but frequently causes an unfortunate loss of mental capacity.
Also, too, does Don Lemon actually get paid for being a tool?
Been there, I’m sorry to say. It gets better with time, but until then you just go on. There are no short cuts and no making it easier, you just go on.
She won’t go. Says the problem is all me. I went at the beginning of last week; he’s says there’s not a chance unless she’s willing to acknowledge her role and be willing to work toward something positive.
In the back of my car sits a completed divorce petitition, summonses, requisite data forms and filing fee checks. I’ve forwarded a lease app but not the fee. I’m pretty far down the road mentally, and am no longer willing to gut myself to make it work.
Absolutely freaking perfect. I love that.
Iowa Old Lady
@Botsplainer: In all truth, that refusal to work together to set things right is a very bad sign. Apparently the current situation is not too painful for her. (I say this having once been the one asking for counseling.)
@Botsplainer: I agree with Morzer on going ahead and moving out if that feels right and it’s toward your “dream hipster” life, because it’s an affirmation that you have a say in your future. And go to counseling without her; the dysfunctional patterns that end up breaking a marriage of such long duration are subtle and can be invisible to the participants. The only person you can change is you, but when you change, the people around you have to change their response to you.
I did go to counseling, at first with my ex and later without him. Over the course of several months, he grew disillusioned with his shiny new girl toy and wanted to come back to me. But after those months of counseling, I came to realize how psychologically abusive our marriage had been and continued the divorce. Without the counseling, I probably would have accepted him and his serial philandering back, and had to repeat the ugly experience again in the future. I didn’t want my young sons to grow up thinking that’s how relationship and marriage was supposed to be. So, as a sample of 1 I can attest to it helping me, but not my marriage.
you should move out. clearly things aren’t going anywhere and the two of you being there together is just going to keep amping the stress level up. maybe some time apart will get her to the point where she’s at least able to go with you to counseling. if not, then enough time will have passed to argue that she’s not going to change her mind on that or anything and then maybe filing is a good idea.
at least at that point you’ll have tried everything you could reasonably have tried.
Do her friends also see things as she does or could they help you to help her see the reality?
@Iowa Old Lady:
I knew my first, decade-long marriage was over when I asked my wife to go to counseling with me, and she said she could not fit it into her work and business travel schedule (not just a particular session–in general). She also made it clear that she thought all of the problems in our marriage were my fault. (There are many, many things I wish I’d done better, but all my fault?)
Anyway, I feel for you. Unfortunately, it hurts. And even now, ten years later, when I’m happily remarried and can see in retrospect what a train wreck the first marriage was, I have to admit it still hurts sometimes. If you’re human, you can’t get that close to someone and then just permanently sever the emotional bond. At least, I couldn’t.
@Botsplainer: Completely agree with satby: the only person you can change is you. If your wife won’t go to counseling, go yourself. It can help you see patterns and make changes in your own life. Plus, as you navigate this challenging situation, it’s helpful to have someone there for support who is outside your family and friends and work colleagues.
Your wife is very wrong that all the problem is all you. Two of you are in this marriage and both of you contribute to what’s going on. Her not wanting to go isn’t a good sign for the health of your marriage, but it doesn’t have to be a bad sign for your personal health. Take care of yourself first.
She doesn’t maintain those sorts of friendships, at all. She speaks now to her sister some, but learned from me that I had reached out to her sister (who I adore and trust) and that neither one of us let her know I had attempted that (her sister politely and correctly declined to talk to me). Now my wife is pissed off at both of us.
@Botsplainer: I “defriended” a decades-old friend in person one Yom Kippur. That’s the Jewish holiday when you are supposed to apologize to anyone you might have harmed over the past year. She and her family had helped found the local Tea Party branch and I just couldn’t do it any more. I find I don’t miss her, though sometimes when I read about something particularly ugly the local TP’s are doing, I regret that I can’t defriend her twice. I’m still angry I guess but it isn’t very central to the rest of my life so it doesn’t interfere with much.
Between the defriending and the upcoming marital separation, sounds like you are really shaking things up.
@EconWatcher: Another reason to combat gross wealth inequality! Won’t anyone think of the children? Seriously though you are right I think the only thing more likely to produce someone with serious issues that being raised in abject poverty is being raised in complete and total privilege and I suspect (it’s truthy in my gut) that it is actually significantly more likely. Seriously if you sound like King Joffrey in a Game of Thrones episode you really need to question yourself as a human.
I defriended a boyhood friend (not close since then, but) from the ’50s because it nearly made me cry each time I saw his hate-filled posts of RW talking points. I could not reconcile my memories with that. :(
That’s too bad. We all need someone to show us how a situation appears from a more objective point.
I know my sister-in-law kept trying to get me on her side during her nasty divorce from my brother. I can’t imagine what she was thinking. Eight years later, I’m still getting a couple emails every year asking why we can’t be close like we used to be. I think if someone can’t see the truth at first, they likely never will.
Good luck to you.
@Botsplainer: @Ohio Mom: @TerryC: You can put those people on your Acquaintance list and see only occasional updates from them, not the constant vitriol. Link.
Careful there – you’re getting into the same territory as Wingnuts pointedly including Obama’s middle name “Barak Hussein Obama” when referring to him. And the whole point of doing so was to put derogatory emphasis on his alien non-white ethnicity.
Better to not go there into bigot-humor territory. There’s plenty of reasons to derisively mock Bobby Jindal that have nothing whatever to do with his ethnic background.
Ugh. Moderation for too many links. Trying again.
@Botsplainer: @Ohio Mom: @ TerryC:
You can put those people on your Acquaintance list and see only occasional updates from them, not the constant vitriol. Link.
@PurpleGirl: Ditto. Not that they actuallygo anywhere, but it would be instructive for wingnuts if they got turned back at some border because they hadn’t had their shots.
@cmorenc: I think the point is to throw it back into their hypocritical faces.
@mai naem: Geez. If they can’t handle the tamed-and-housebroken variety used in the vaccine, how are they supposed to handle the real thing? Oh, right, they don’t need to so long as Ahmurrca keeps all the Infections Other People out of the country.
@Botsplainer: I’m not a doctor, nor do I play one on tv but you’re prolly dealing with a person with a pd. No offense. She’ll never be accountable to herself and will make you do all of the work. Your plans look solid and appropriate.
The big thing is it takes a person like you to be with a person like her, so counselling is vital for you to get a handle on this before someone else like her enters your life. Apologies for me being totally wrong, ymmv and all that; I suspect you know this stuff already, tho.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
I agree with the consensus that you should go to counseling on your own even if she won’t go. If nothing else, it will help you figure out a better way to interact with her as you go through the separation and/or divorce so you can reduce the stress on your daughters. Even though they’re adults, your kids are probably going to be pretty upset by the whole thing. You’ve probably seen enough nasty divorces in your practice that you know what you DON’T want to do, and a counselor can help you stay on that path.
It’s unfortunate but true that the “empty nest” time after the kids grow up can be a high-risk time for marriage troubles to rear their ugly heads, since everything you/she may have been suppressing when the kids were around finally comes out.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
The new tetanus booster is a three-fer: tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis (whooping cough). I was very glad to find that out when the whooping cough epidemic broke here in California.
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): Do you now how long that has been out? How new is new? I got my last tetanus booster after a big hurricane came through our area and I realized I could hurt myself during cleanup. Wasn’t sure when my last one was so got one just in case. Wonder if it had all that.
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini):
IIUC the current pertussis vaccine is less-effective than the earlier version, so boosters are really important. I work with someone who had three of five family members catch it–two kids and a parent–and the dad took several months to recover. They’d all been vaccinated.
The CDC info page on DTaP is dated 2007, if that helps.
I had lost contact for decades with one of my very closest childhood friends I grew up with in a small town in eastern North Carolina back in the 1950s and early 1960s – we had drifted apart when we went off to college in separate places and then lived in distant places from one another as adults. I did know he’d moved to a city down at the coast, and one day when I happened to be going through that town in no particular hurry to get where I was going, I decided to look him up. We had a really great time drinking a few beers together in a bar down by the beach, and exchanged emails.
Of course, you know (in part) where this is going – he added me to a small email distribution list along with 25 or so other friends and relatives of his, all of whom (including him) turned out to not only be RW nutjobs, but from some of the emails, blatantly racist RW nutjobs sometimes not bothering to try to cloak it in dog whistles and coded words. HOWEVER, THE REAL UGLY SURPRISE was when I started thinking why my old friend had so immediately included me in an email list which included right-wing political rants, but openly racist drivel such as I had not heard since back in the early 1960s…um, KA-CHING! I realized I had encountered a dim mirror of my own ancient self, the one he last knew many decades ago! Not long after we had lost mutual contact is when I had begun my steady evolution to social and political views that are a galactic distance away from where I was back then (fortunately so!) I realized I had sort of suppressed remembering much about my sociopolitical self back four+ decades ago because it was a bit uncomfortable to acknowledge to myself.
That night of our reunion, how had my friend missed seeing the Obama sticker on the rear bumper of my car parked out in front of his house when we walked past it going to the bar? Cause I’d parked where we walked past the front of my car going each way – our conversation in the bar was personal, not political at all – query how the conversation might have gone had he seen the bumper sticker. I might not have been forced to look at that unpleasant dim, ancient mirror.
@Tree With Water: Hah! Seattlites wouldn’t know how to bargain if their life depended on it.
@Violet: this is really good advice.
If you move out, that’s probably it for the marriage. Where there are kids involved, I tend to be pretty old school about trying to hold things together, but therapy won’t do that if one person has no interest. What it will do is help and change you. People will respond to that however they respond to that, but the important thing is to make sure you are healthy and a good father to your kids.
@BillinGlendaleCA: My husband got good at the injections too, twice a week. The ProCrit was so painful that we put a bag of frozen peas on the spot to numb it in advance, and that almost always helped. The Interferon injection was nothing, but I would get these big, scary rashy circles around the injection sites, and they lasted for a couple of weeks.
Sorry sir. Don’t know you, but certainly know this situation. Do what you have to do to protect yourself mentally and emotionally. Continue the counseling, even if she refuses to go.
It’s been my experience in life that those who cannot see that they may be part of the problem are usually the problem.
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): That was the old model, called a DPT for a very long time, but now they seem to call it TDaP. That’s what I had as well as the Hep A and B series, and a couple of other things I can’t remember off the top of my head. It was a needle-phone’s nightmare, and I gradually got over the phobia. There is a way of giving shots that really don’t hurt, squeezing up a bunch of the upper arm before sticking the needle in, but not every nurse knows this. The nurses at Kaiser used this method, which is where I was treated, at the Anaheim facility. They had a terrific program at the time, but so many of their patients were addicts and/or had no one for emotional support that a lot just stopped taking the drugs.
@opiejeanne: I believe the newer version causes fewer immediate, TEMPORARY side-effects. That was the vaccine that set my kid crying, miserable and cranky for the rest of the day. I knew in advance that was coming but it still was a bit unsettling. Didn’t happen with any of the other ones.
For everyone who is wondering what version of a vaccine they’ve gotten — just ask your doctor, they keep notes on every vaccine they give you, including the manufacturing lot.
Also, if you aren’t sure if you had this or that childhood disease, you can take a blood test to find out. It was always a question if I’d had the mumps, my brother and my sister did, and it was theorized that I might have had a very mild case, but a blood test a few years ago showed I had no mumps antibodies. So I got the MMR.
Mobile Grumpy Code Monkey
@cmorenc: I used to refer to him as “Barack Motherfucking HUSSEIN Obama” just to make the proto-Teadtards nervous.
To paraphrase Rand Paul: “… the schools don’t own the children, the parents own the children. It’s about freedom.”
I guess ownership of kids is all about freedom.
@PurpleGirl: I was thinking myself, “well trolled, Elnathan John, well trolled.”
1) what will come through to most readers is that you are making a racist-tinge statement, and they will miss that you intended your comment as reverse-sarcasm against hypocritical RWs. Context can be a fragile, uncertain thing to try to communicate in print over the internet, especially to readers who don’t personally know you.
2) your comment will be eagerly used by RWers as ammunition allegedly proving that progressives are the real racists, or at best as proof that “both sides do it” – and see point #1 above if you think their context-blind use of your comment will be ineffective for that purpose. You can see a clear example of a similar dynamic over on Faux News re: the anti-vax issue, where they’re dredging up 2008 clips of Hillary Clinton hedging on the issue, even though now in 2014 she’s come out strongly pro-vaccine and has long since repudiated any possible links between vaccination and autism.
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini):
Just remember that the increase in whooping cough is the result of the new vaccine. People seem unclear on that point. The new vaccine is less effective but believed to result in fewer adverse events.
@cmorenc: You got me wrong. I’m pointing out how Obama proudly uses his uncommon and foreign sounding name while others cut and run from who they are to the point of painting themselves white (case in point: Rafael Cruz goes by Ted Cruz)
@Botsplainer: So sorry to hear you’re going through this. I co-sign the recommendations for counseling and moving out. Sounds as if you’re keeping your head screwed on right. Have you noticed in your social circle that it makes a difference from whom they heard the news first – specifically, do the ones who heard from your wife first treat you significantly differently than before?
I’m helping some friends in the early stages of their divorce (babysitting, mostly) and have realized it’s the wife’s father trying to drive them apart. The wife was a very spoiled Daddy’s Princess and Party Girl before the marriage and I think she did not like adulting while broke. I have made it clear to both of them that I will help with the kids as needed, and I’ll lend an ear as needed, but I’m staying out of it. Most of their friends are split based on who told them first.
In California, it’s both/and — low vaccination rates AND a vaccine that needs to be renewed more often.
The US doesn’t have the most reported cases since 1955 solely because of a vaccine change. It’s also because fewer kids are being vaccinated in the first place.