I have been kicked out of my lazyboy.
Picked Ginger up from the doctor today, and she is doing quite well. She’s a little slow and mopey as she is still recovering, but she was happy to see me and happy to see her pups. She’s also a little doped up on pain meds, so I will take some pictures of her tomorrow for you all.
Not really sure things are going to work out with MaryG and Ginger, which is sad. The rescue group I am working with is very serious about homing animals, and not only must someone fill out an application, but they have to have a home inspection, which is going to be impossible for Mary as she lives in California. It’s irritating, but I don’t think I can force them to change their rules with my first foster, and I want to keep doing this. Rules suck, but they are there for a reason so I will grudgingly respect them.
How are you all doing?
raven
Any chance a similar organization in California could perform the home visit?
Baud
I’m doing well. Thanks for asking.
Puppies are too cute. Too bad about the adoption.
JPL
Someone else mentioned interest in Ginger. I’m not sure where they lived though. The pups look great and what a sweet pic. I wasn’t so sure of Thurston when he was trying to kill Lovey but not he looks like a real champ. btw, I know youtubes can be misleading but he did act aggressive.
JPL
@raven: That’s a great idea.
Denali
Not so well. I’ll leave it at that.
Baud
@JPL:
Was that the wrestling video? Seemed like normal puppy play to me.
JPL
@Baud: Lovey went running and I felt bad.
Violet
Crap ass day with terrible construction all over the place. I’m just so over it. Been going on over a year. And then the rich, entitled new neighbors have decided to put in a pool and the pool company sucks balls. Their equipment is too big for where they want to drive it and park it and it’s loud as hell. It’s exhausting to be in the house when the entire house shudders from the noise and vibrations from the heavy equipment. Horrible day. Exhausted.
Gin & Tonic
How am I doing? I played hooky and went skiing today, and it was fantastic.
kc
Some of these rescue groups go overboard with their screening of potential homes. There’s a happy medium, ya know . . .
raven
Mrs Greenspan needs a new makeup artist.
Elizabelle
Neither puppy looks very poodle-y.
Bummer about Mary G re the home inspection, but I am sure there is some little pup or senior dog California dreaming of living large with Mary G this very moment. No reason to remain dogless. So many needful little souls out there.
Anabasis
I like puppies and cooking with white wine.
Elizabelle
@raven:
She on warmongering?
jl
Thanks to Cole for pupdate and puppix.
Below is important news that IMHO ties together animal blogging and news of WV drug legislation, so may be of interest.
Dinos Got High, Oldest Grass Fungus Fossil Hints
” The hints that dinos got high come from the first amber fossil ever found of ergot, a grass parasite that can have poisonous and mind-altering effects on animals that nibble the dark fungi. ”
…
” Now, it turns out that ergot has plagued grass-eaters since dinosaurs stomped the Earth. ”
http://news.yahoo.com/dinos-got-high-oldest-grass-fungus-fossil-hints-133937978.html
mtiffany
raven @1 already beat me to it… but I guess each rescue and placement org has an interest in placing the critters sitting waiting in their care — and it sort of makes sense — how many gallons and dollars worth of gasoline would be spent transporing one dog cross-country when there are probably just as many deserving dogs and cats literally just down the road.
Pogonip
@raven: That’s a good idea. Cole, I’d put that suggestion to the rescue.
raven
@Elizabelle: No, Rachel has her on reporting about the White House trying to squash the rumours on Mueller.
weavrmom
What about a video/Skype inspection?
bystander
…but they have to have a home inspection, which is going to be impossible for Mary as she lives in California.
Uh, John, that’s bullshit. Or, this rescue organization isn’t nearly as plugged into a rescue network as they might claim. Sorry to cast aspersions on any outfit doing rescue – God love them all – but a home inspection is the absolute least of the worries of rescue groups around me. There is always a means of getting a home inspection done, and California would be a hell of a lot easier than one in, say, Fargo, ND. Any local shelter staff member ought to be able to accomplish a home inspection that would meet the rescue groups’s criteria. It’s time for Ginger’s sponsors to get out of their box and be creative.
Pogonip
@JPL: Yes, but first you heard a serious, BACK OFF! snarl which I believe came from Lovey, and Thurston did indeed back off. He stood there thinking it over while Lovey toddled away, then shook himself and went to see what she was up to now.
And they are all snuggly tonight! What cuties.
Baud
@raven:
What rumors?
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
I had to wear heels, pantyhose, and a “body briefer” (aka spandex girdle) all friggin’ day, so I put the Batgirl pajamas on the instant I got home. The job interview went okay, but I have a feeling I’m not what they’re looking for, but they’re not what I’m looking for, so it’s okay. Next step, emailing the recruiter tomorrow with my shiny new resume better suited to the job I actually want.
raven
@Baud: Ugh, she was in cahoots, was “given” to some dude. Buncha shit. There are also “conservative” celebrating her death because she was anti-Israel.
Pogonip
Thanks for the delightful pupdate, John. Looking forward to seeing glamour girl Ginger after she gets back from the groomer.
raven
TPM
Baud
@raven:
That was the plot on a recent episode of NCIS, so it’s plausible.
JPL
@Pogonip: My last rescue loved to play lion when other dogs came over. The latest rescue is socially inept about dog play but loves dogs. I still thought Thurston looked like a bully and the camera never lies. haha
Jane2
@raven: Excellent suggestion: these groups have to be connected somehow.
OC
I had a shitty day but work but that doesn’t matter because PUPPIES!!!
raven
@Jane2: The issue may already be settled.
Jane2
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): I used to hate having to go all out for a job that I didn’t really want.
Jane2
@raven: Yeah….every group has its inner dynamic and it’s own special mid-level bureaucrats. Maybe Operation Balloon Juice: Find Mary G, the rescuer of rescues, the Perfect Puppy has to spring into action
Jane2
@raven: Yeah….every group has its inner dynamic and its own special mid-level bureaucrats. Maybe Operation Balloon Juice: Find Mary G, the rescuer of rescues, the Perfect Puppy has to spring into action
Valdivia
Bob Simon of 60 minutes died tonight in a car accident in nyc, awful.
sorry for the OT
Anne Laurie
Raven’s right — if MaryG can get in touch with a rescue group in her area who’ll do the home inspection, the Philly group should be able to check her through them. Ask your sister, at least, what the group would want from a “reciprocal home visit.”
(And, MaryG, check if your local Elder Services outfit has a ‘senior pet’ program; they might be able to hook you up for a home inspection that will meet the Philly group’s standards. Or at least hook you up with the right little dog for you, if Ginger turns out to have a different permanent home.)
Karen in GA
I understand wanting to make sure animals don’t get sent home with another Bill Frist, but some of these groups let the perfect become the enemy of the good. I was originally looking for a poodle or poodle mix, but the poodle rescue near me seemed a bit over the top, so I never contacted them. The woman who runs the rescue where I found Iggy later confirmed it — she knows the woman who runs the poodle rescue. She told me about a conversation she had with the poodle rescue woman when she found out poodle rescue woman wouldn’t adopt to a family because during a home inspection, she found shrubs in a corner of their fenced yard. Her reasoning: “How do I know there’s not a hole in the fence behind the shrubs?” The woman who ran Iggy’s rescue reminded her that the dogs needed homes. Poodle woman’s response: “But poodles are special!” Said Iggy rescue woman: “They’re all special. They all need homes.”
Good lord.
jl
@raven:
Here’s the link. I noted that in a previous thread today.
Conservatives Dance On Grave Of ISIL Hostage: ‘Jew-Hating, Anti-Israel B**ch’
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conservatives-kayla-mueller-israel
Schlussel and Breitbart are D-list loonies. Joel Pollack and Gateway Pundit were doing it too, I’m not sure who they are.
In past, for some mysterious reason, if Breitbart says stuff, it has been deemed officially ‘out’ and worthy of discussion even though that organization has discredited itself repeatedly, or at least would have in a more just and rational world.
Hope this garbage stays in the loony D-list outer realms this time.
@Baud:
” That was the plot on a recent episode of NCIS, so it’s plausible. ”
Uh-oh. Obvs true then!
kc
@raven:
God, what an awful person.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Jane2:
It wasn’t so bad — this was only the second interview I’ve gone on in the past 15 years (I’ve usually been a temp-to-hire) so it was good practice. But since I work in a casual office (I could wear jeans every day if I wanted to) it’s weird to have to suddenly put on “office wear.”
Plus I unexpectedly had to park my car a long block from the building where the interview was, so that didn’t help the shoe situation.
raven
@jl: I was hesitant to mention it.
Jane2
@Karen in GA: Good Lord is right. Iggy lives the life of a king!!
Jane2
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): My recently discovered solution to “work shoes”: Superfeet insoles. You’ll never regret the purchase.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Karen in GA:
A work friend of mine tried to adopt a pug for years, but the nearest rescue org wouldn’t approve him because he smokes. Outside. I mean, I know pugs have respiratory issies, but seriously?
He did eventually find an org that was a little more rational and has added two pugs to his family’s collection of cats.
Karen in GA
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): I was sorry to see your other interview didn’t work out. I had a similar situation — I really wanted out of where I was working, and the recruiter said the place where I interviewed called him to sing my praises the second I walked out of the office, before I’d even reached my car. This job was perfect, and it was so mine, until they decided to go with a last-minute internal referral. And now I have a much better job than that one could ever have been.
This will all work out for you. You know what you want, and you’ve got the resume to get it.
In the meantime, enjoy the rest of your evening wearing something that isn’t those damned interview clothes.
jl
@raven: So was I. But I had my first ‘WTF is wrong with these people’ attack that led to mentioning something like that in the comments. I guess something to watch for in the corporate media. Another ‘crisis’ for Obama, I guess.
I’ve read a couple of news articles on the tragic death, that said Obama was under pressure to pay ransoms now. Pressure from whom was not mentioned, so I figured that was BS garbage pumped out to create an issue, but maybe it is true. Bad (of course) reporting by US press, whichever is the case.
JPL
@Valdivia: That is awful. rip
Baud
@Valdivia:
Rachel just covered it.
Valdivia
@JPL:
I am actually in shock, he was probably the only one I could still watch in 60 minutes. Also–horrible way to go on a livery cab in the west side highway. Ugh.
@Baud: I will check it out later on the website. I only saw it on the NY Post but I see now the rest of the outlets are covering it.
Baud
@Valdivia:
It was a brief, breaking news mention.
Valdivia
@Baud: I am sure they will do something longer tomorrow which I will be interested to see by someone like Rachel. I vaguely remember something to do Saddam at some point (interview? held in Iraq?) which the patriot brigade held against him.
ETA: he was in one of Saddam’s jails for 40 days. And he lived in the Middle East for 20 years. I guess that’s enough for him to be seen as suspicious by the neocons. Too sympathetic.
He really was of a kind of journalist that don’t exist anymore. Very sad.
Keith G
@Violet: As loud as it is, you have a house and all that goes with it. So many do not.
I hope next week brings peace.
@efgoldman:
Oh jesus. Just what the world needs more of.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Karen in GA:
I’m still pretty bummed about it, but it would be massively hypocritical of me to be upset that they did a temp-to-permanent hire when that’s exactly how I got my last three jobs. Oh well. The internal (to my division) recruiter I talked to was really positive about the possibility of me being able to find a position in what I want to do, so I’m feeling hopeful again.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@raven: Beat me to it.
The Goathouse regularly puts out requests for people to do home visits for them.
Speaking of which, they’re fundraising on another funds matching opportunity, and the deadline is coming up fast. If y’all would be so kind as to spread the word?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
Cute puppeh pick. And raven, you are the jury’s loss. I’d be delighted to have you in a venire. Of course I’m not expecting to try a jury any time in the near future, and I’m not admitted in GA. But still…
JPL
Bob Simon was in a livery cab. What is a livery cab?
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
I was wondering the same thing. There must be some kind of reciprocity, or a national umbrella pet rescue organization that could cover a home inspection and sign off on Mary G. She deserves Ginger, and Ginger deserves the loving home that Mary G. could provide.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@JPL: A for-hire vehicle that technically can’t pick up street hails.
JPL
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: thanks..
Valdivia
@JPL: usually they work with car services, you call them they pick you up and drop you off like a limo service does. But there’s tons of these companies in nyc and not all of them are great with good driver standards. I had a Dominican company from my neighborhood I used to swear by. But others could be super sketchy. Don’t know how this has changed in the age of Uber. From what I am hearing the guy was driving erratically.
Elizabelle
Very sad about Bob Simon, and ironic too. All that reporting from war zones, and it’s a cab accident in NYC.
Here’s link to recent 60 Minutes report he did on Ava Duvernay of “Selma.”
Valdivia
@Elizabelle: I saw that this weekend and was so moved by it. Great reporting and full of empathy and good storytelling. He was the only one in that show who didn’t do the whole affected Villager pose. Like you I am very saddened by this.
NotMax
If you don’t like the organization’s rules or find them burdensome or strident or capricious or adamantine, find another group having more latitude and flexibility.
burnspbesq
@Anabasis:
Are you the same Anabasis that used to be on the public policy board at DBR?
TaMara (BHF)
Wow, I’m both glad and very sad to hear that others have had similar experiences with rescue groups that I have had. The local shelter here was awesome, but boy the others….
ETA: and if they’re not willing to find a work around for Mary G, then I’m not sure they deserve our continued support. Sorry, but this stupid.
NotMax
@JPL
Sometimes called a car service. Usually a town car type vehicle hired for pick-up and drop off at specific times. Many people in NYC area use them to get to and from the airport(s).
Often in movies or on TV you’ll see people standing around outside the airport with little placards with someone’s name on them. That’s the same kind of service.
schrodinger's cat
Has anyone heard from Higgs Boson’s mate recently?
Violet
@efgoldman: Why would I need an attorney? The heavy equipment is on the street and I even talked to the cops about it today and they shrugged and told me the trucks have a right to be there. I don’t think they’re breaking laws. It’s just disruptive beyond all sanity. It was really awful today.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@NotMax:
Depends on where you live. Weirdly, living in an urban area can sometimes be harder because groups tend to specialize, so if you want a pug (for example) there’s only one rescue org in your area, and they go to the shelters and pick up all of the pugs. My friend ended up basically haunting the shelter until he managed to get a pug before the rescue org could swoop in. Once he had the one, though, it was easier for him to get the second because they could see that his first pug was in very good health despite the outdoors smoking.
Sandy Hill
Regarding the California connection…I work at a Humane Society and we have been contacted by distant rescues requesting that we do a home visit for them. You might want to check into that possibility.
Mary G
I was a little bummed – I have always kind of made fun of people who fall madly in love with a dog just from an online picture, then it happened to me. However, it is pretty self-indulgent to use several hundred dollars to go get a rescue dog all the way across the country.
John assured me that Ginger will be found an excellent home much closer to where she is. The group John’s sister works with likes to do follow-up visits to make sure that the home is working out, so they are a little bit more on the control freak side of the spectrum. Evidently they do get a lot of pets back and have no way to know that I am not a quitter. Also, someone who fell in the bathroom and had to spend a month out of the house recovering would turn off any rescue organization.
I went on Petfinder and there are 205 small senior dogs who get along with cats within 100 miles of my house. These guys are adorable and already have a list of potential adopters lined up. The rescue organization they are from, Lionel’s Legacy, only does senior dogs and I am going to cut off my cable TV altogether, since I rarely watch any TV, and spend the money I save sponsoring arthritis medicines for some of their charges.
Another dog, Woo Woo, is hilarious just from her name and mug shot and I may go down to see her next week if she is still available.
After reading a bunch of stuff on rescue websites, I have decided that it might be best to start off by fostering a senior dog, like JC, except for the puppies. I am not up to puppies! Every one of them is begging for more foster homes, and if it doesn’t work out, it’s not a permanent commitment on either side. Once they see the dog is working out, they may be more willing to consent to me adopting one of them at some point.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@TaMara (BHF):
I wouldn’t be surprised if part of it is that all they heard is that someone on the Internet wants the dog. They don’t realize that some of us actually have met each other IRL and they’re thinking that Cole would just be sending Ginger off to some unscreened weirdo who was pretending to want her for some twisted reason.
Redshift
As someone who volunteers with a rabbit rescue, there are certainly wackos in every type of rescue, but there are reasons learned through hard experience to have more of a screening process than “we talked to them and they seem nice enough.” One of the primary reasons is that when we adopt them out, we don’t want them to be returned (or end up on Craigslist) when they’re older and harder to get adopted.
Yes, it’s possible to find partner organizations you can trust and establish relationships with them and arrange to transport animals across the country, but the thing that is usually in shortest supply is volunteer hours. We want to get as many adopted as we can, and speaking from experience, most people who ask about cross-country adoptions fell in love with a photo on the website and didn’t read anything else, so putting a lot of volunteer effort into facilitating those adoptions isn’t going to rely in more springs overall.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Mary G:
Technically, Keaton came to us as a foster “just to try him out for a couple of weeks” because we had an older cat we needed to be sure he would get along with. We ended up paying the adoption fee the very next week.
(For San Fernando Valleyites, two of our three cats came from Happy Strays (http://happystrays.org). The third one we found in a parking lot, which is where our troubles began.)
rikyrah
They look adorable.
Sandia Blanca
Does anyone live near Groves, Texas, who can foster this sweet dog? Urgently needed.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=558635714271681
Beaumont/Port Arthur area.
Violet
@Keith G:
You mean like property taxes? I know I’m very fortunate but it has been a long year surrounded by construction and difficult to deal with construction subcontractors who have damaged property continuously. All the neighbors hate these people and we’re generally pretty reasonable people.
However, at times it has been so loud I’ve been unable to stay in the house. It has been that bad. Being around it has been almost impossible. So at times, no, I didn’t really have a house because I was physically unable to be in it. Today was one of those days.
The sound was bad, the smell was terrible. When you see the workers wearing protective masks and no, they didn’t let any neighbors know they were working with toxic and hazardous substances so screw you if you or your pets were outside, it’s pretty bad. Deafening noise and toxic fumes. Yay.
Redshift
Grrr, editing isn’t working on the phone. That should be “adoptions”, obviously, not “springs.”
Anyway, the point is that while we’re all sure it’s a good idea *this* time, it’s not inherently unreasonable for a rescue to only work locally.
Elizabelle
@Mary G: so happy to hear there is a senior pet in your future, woo woo wants a home by valentine’s day. kind of you to pay for pet meds. win all around.
Mary G
@schrodinger’s cat: I talked to HBM today and he and Leland are coming down on Saturday to visit. He says he is doing great.
@Violet: I can sympathize – one way I can tell the recession is slowing down is that people are tearing down houses around here to put up McMansions, or a second or third generation McMansion, and the noise is really irritating.
Anne Laurie
@TaMara (BHF): In the Philly rescue’s defense, California is one of the states that has an excess of small dogs looking for homes — so much so that they fly chihuahuas to places like New England where shelters have no trouble placing the little guys. Not saying they shouldn’t make a special exception for MaryG & Ginger, but there are legitimate reasons for such a policy.
Violet
@Mary G: Awww…Mary G, I’m sorry Ginger doesn’t seem to be destined to become yours but I’m glad you are looking at other pups that need help. Maybe something closer to home will work better for you. I hope it all works out for the best.
TaMara (BHF)
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): [[grudgingly]] You’re probably right. I just had such a bad experience with [[redacted]] rescue. In-fighting, possessive, controlling…and they sweep all the shelters for the dogs…and if you try to get one from the shelter they call the shelter and discourage them from letting someone who hasn’t been ‘vetted’ by them, adopt.
And now you know how I ended up with a puppy instead of a rescue.
Anne Laurie
@Mary G:
So happy you’re taking this with such a good spirit! By all means, talk to some of your local groups about fostering older dogs — it’ll be a good thing for all parties. Older dogs, in particular, have a terrible time at your average shelter — they don’t have the puppy resilience concerning the institutional setting, noise, constant comings & goings of strange dogs & people. Giving them respite in a nice quiet home like yours, with a lovely garden to pose in, will help them show off their best features for potential adopters…
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@TaMara (BHF):
See my story above about my work friend who wanted a pug — I have definitely seen the overly-invested rescuers in action. I’m just hoping that the org John’s sister is involved with isn’t one of them.
FWIW, it does frequently seem to be more of a problem with breed-specific orgs than with ones that take a variety of breeds.
BillinGlendaleCA
@schrodinger’s cat: He’s over at LGF, said his wife got her MPA today.
Mike E
Wall to wall coverage on my local teevee news about the Chapel Hill massacre…no candy coating, all issues are being covered.
Bob Simon of 60 Minutes apparently died in a car accident…he was 73.
TaMara (BHF)
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): Definitely my experience with the Danes. My breeder told me the story of a family that wanted to rescue one, but were turned down because their son was in a wheelchair, even though they’d had big dogs previously. She said screw that and gave them a puppy.
I’m just grumpy because I’m still sick and so tired of coughing. I’m sure this rescue group is terrific and I owe them an apology. And I’m glad Mary G is finding other opportunities for getting a fur baby. Fostering is great, I’ve done it a few times.
Redshift
@TaMara (BHF): No disagreement that there are terrible rescues, too. We had a “rabbit rescue” around here that was basically just a hoarder who occasionally let one go.
There are also different concerns with different types of pets. With small animals, for example, we have to worry about the risk that they’ll be stuck in a cage and neglected.
So our screening is relatively rigorous, and includes a home visit. But we also refer people who don’t quite qualify to shelters. (We would never have enough fosterers to take all the rabbits from the shelters.)
TaMara (BHF)
@Mary G: OMG. Woo Woo is a charmer. I’m sure you’ll find your fur friend soon. I’m sorry about Ginger though. But in my experience, the one that comes to you, is the one that is suppose to come to you (yes, I’m looking at all of you furry critters littering my living room a that moment).
PhoenixRising
@TaMara (BHF): Yup. We got the Dane from Big Dogs Huge Paws rather than our local breed rescue, because those people were nuts.
BDHP does require a home visit, but that makes sense because they place…big dogs. The one they sent over (with his person) to check out our house was able to rest his chin on the 30″ countertop designed for my 59″ wife’s convenience. If we hadn’t known what we were getting into that would have been an eye-opener. The rescue’s very reasonable policy is, We don’t want this dog to be like the TV that looked small enough at the warehouse store, but in your living room was obviously too large.
SoCal small dog rescues are, IMO, raving loons as well, with less reason, so if you can convince one that you’re good enough to foster for them, that’s a start. I’m never having another small dog, so someone should benefit from our experience there.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@PhoenixRising:
My friend who had trouble getting a pug? Yep, SF Valley.
Elie
Precious — just precious … (I am late to the thread – sorry)
Tree With Water
Bob Simon of CBS news has been killed in a car accident in NYC. It’s the loss of a excellent journalist. RIP.
Suzanne
Lovely puppies. Lovely Ginger.
I want Lovey.
mtiffany
Then adopt Ginger and the two puppies yourself. Once they’re yours you are free to send them where ever you wish, absent of any concerns or rules of the org you’re working with, then find a better org to work with, these people sound like fussy bitches.
Just Some Fuckhead
No follow up post about your boy, Brian Williams, John? Turns out he has a bigger self-aggrandizement issue than one Iraq misrememberment. I knew Williams was in trouble when they looped in Brokaw on this. Brokaw and Williams have never gotten along although I suspect Mr. Greatest Generation has long been jealous of Brian Williams WWII heroics.
Death Panel Truck
A home inspection? No thank you. My wife and I were looking for a rescue dog online. An organization in Spanaway, Washington wanted us to give them our drivers license numbers before they’d even consider us. Told ’em no fucking way.
Then a nice old gentleman in Yakima advertised a rescue cocker online. All he wanted to know was if his dog would get along with our other cocker. We brought them together and they seemed to jell, so we tried to give him the $300 (to cover his expenses – vet bill, shots, etc.) he’d asked for in his ad. “Three hundred – did I say $300?” he said. “Oh, no, that’s too much. $260 should cover it.” That dog, renamed for Chico Marx, is now sleeping at my feet.
Karen in GA
@mtiffany:
Yeah, I wonder if there’d be something in the adoption rules stating that he’d have to surrender the dogs back to the rescue if he didn’t keep them himself. Wouldn’t surprise me.
Some rescues will microchip the animal but keep the chip in their own names when the animal is adopted out — as far as they’re concerned, the animal is still, and always, theirs. That’s something I liked about Iggy’s rescue — they chipped him, but I was able to change the info when we adopted him so I’m the owner, not the rescue.
Not sure how enforceable any of that really is from a legal standpoint, but there it is.
And you probably knew all of that. But hey, commenting here keeps me off the streets, so there’s that.
mtiffany
@Karen in GA: IANAL, but I think the easiest and quickest legal test to determine who owns an animal is to ask who gets sued if the animal bites someone — that’s the person who gets to make choices on the animal’s behalf. Pets are living creatures, but they’re still property. Plus, there’s the tags and license issue — where I live the person who pays the tag and license fee is the owner — so rescue orgs can make all the rules they want and make you sign whatever contract they want, but I doubt they would be enforceable.
Feebog
I spent the day in an administrative hearing with two bitchy female attorneys. Both are excellent advocates, and generally pretty civil, but apparently they can’t stand each other. As a bonus I get to do it all over again Friday.
SWMBO
@JPL: Lovey went running to mama “I’m Telling!” If she was getting seriously injured, Ginger would have given him a sharp reprimand.
You worry too much. It’s ok, there are days when all I do is worry.
In December 2013,our old man died. This left a relatively young Pixie alone. She became a neurotic terror. She had housebreaking issues, Destroyed things she wouldn’t have glanced at before and drove us crazy. She was a rescue from Miami Dade Animal Control. She had been tossed to live on the streets. She did not like being alone.
In April 2014 one of my husband’s former coworkers (who had married a veterinarian) had a client come in with a pic of a cute puppy that was the oldest of a litter of six. Three boys, three girls. The coworker took two of the pups (one for her daughter, one for her niece) and told my husband about the rest. In May we picked up two of the brothers and ten days later picked up the third brother. They did/do at lot of what looks like aggressive play but if one of them squeaks, the others are all apologetic. They also take turns on who’s gonna be low man. If they get too rambunctious, Pixie steps in and sorts it out. Oh and her issues disappeared the day we brought them home. They have bonded into a happy little family that is devoted to each other.
Thurston and Lovey have to try this out on each other so that they will have some idea what is acceptable and what is not when they meet another animal. Thurston wasn’t challenging Steve in the pics. He wants to play with someone his own size until he knows what the other animal will do. It will work itself out.
another Holocene human
@Karen in GA: The rescue lady sounds like a hoarders. Hoarders are attracted to rescues, sure, running one is even better. Who would question your (narcissistic) looooove of the dogs?
raven
It’s always weird when the same post is up when I get up!
satby
Control freak rescuers are why I’m backing away from rescue and moving into spay/neuter. Some of the rules groups make up seem designed to prevent perfectly fine adoptions. I’ve witnessed it too many times in person. And yes, I ‘ve also seen rescuers morph into hoarders as they decide no one on earth can take care of their “fosters”. Crazy stuff. But they all need senior dog foster homes, so MaryG good luck!
Joy
That does suck for Mary G and Ginger, but I’m glad that the shelter requires home inspections. Maybe a local shelter could do the home inspection for Mary G and pass the information on to your local shelter. Our shelter says they require home inspections but they really don’t do it. They are such cute animals. I’m sure you will be able to find them good homes.
toschek
@raven: Raven has a good idea with having another rescue agency do the inspection. Where does MaryG live in California? I do rescues here and I can put you both in touch with the group I work with here – they are wonderful and nationally known!
kc
@TaMara (BHF):
I agree.
D58826
Well the rightful owners just reclaimed what they are owned:-)
elboku
@satby: I have found every rescue group I have ever dealt with to be- to put it bluntly- insane. The requirements to adopt an animal are unbelievable and over-reaching.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@toschek:
IIRC, she’s in the general South Orange County/North San Diego County area.
sparrow
@Violet: Noise is a public nuisance that for some reason, Americans seem to totally disregard. I about lose my mind every Monday and Tuesday when the mechanical gardeners come out in force to blow 3 leaves around our condo property. This absurd waist of fossil fuels really ought to make our grandchildren hate us.
Pogonip
A few years ago when Salon was still a news site, they ran an article about ” Ellen, the Dog Rescuers, and Me” (not sure of the exact title but that’s pretty close). The premise of the article was that dog-rescue ladies are all batshit crazy, and hundreds of people wrote in telling their own dog-rescue-lady stories. Only a few defended the dog rescues. The “Ellen” in the title came from TV star Ellen DeGeneres running afoul of a dog rescue. She got a dog from a rescue, her maid’s kids loved the dog and vice versa, so she gave the family the dog. Her contract with the rescue said she could never sell or give away the dog so the rescue went to the maid’s house and seized the dog from the crying kids. No doubt Ellen violated the contract, but why pick on the kids and the dog?
nancydarling
@Anne Laurie: Anne, I don’t think I ever thanked you for the tip about belly bands for dogs who are markers. A couple of years ago, I was fostering a little dog found running loose on the square in town. He was a marker and I was at my wits end. I kept him in a baby play pen when I couldn’t monitor him until I bought the bands. I had him neutered and worked like hell for 2 or 3 months to get him housebroken—lot’s of potty treats. He is totally housebroken now.
He has found his forever home with me although that was not my original intention. He sorta looks like Toto. Every day is a bad hair day for him and no amount of grooming fixes it. Frowzy is a perfect description of what he looks like. He is a clown—you have to be with hair like that. My vet thinks he is part Jack Russell. He is the best little fellow and very smart and eager to please. He and the cat are best buds now. At the moment they are sharing the same sunny spot in the living room.
He has also given me a new appreciation for my other dog who is about 5X as large. Big dog is a saint for all he puts up with. He would be justified in taking little dog’s head off, but he never does.
We are a happy pack!
gelfling545
@Karen in GA: A few years back the SPCA (!) declined to let my sister & her husband adopt a dog because they both work (?) and “couldn’t give the dog enough attention”. They are exemplary pet parents and any animal that has been lucky enough to come into their home has lived a pampered and cherished existence. I mean, who doesn’t work (besides me) that’s likely to be able to adopt a dog?
Jebediah, RBG
@Mary G:
Further evidence that you are awesome.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
It’s not just dog rescuers. Cat rescuers are just as bad. We were going to adopt brother and sister kittens from one agency. Going through the contract.. multiple home visits, not allowed to give them to anyone else, etc.., it felt more like a rental agreement. They basically turned me off and I was an ideal owner. My previous kitties had happy lives and died of old age. We ended up adopting two very sweet kittens from the Humane Society who have grown into wonderful cats.
JR in WV
@raven:
Doesn’t this make Schlussel a supporter of Terrorism, and hence eligible for a room at Gt’Mo? I mean either you’re with us or against us, right?
Really, people who hate the Arabic inhabitants of Israel just because of their religion are just at bad as people who hate the Jewish people of that nation, right?
I could get more specific, but too much like work today. I have dinner to fix and company coming to eat! Good thing they live next door, huh?