Didn’t read the books, won’t watch the movie (I was in the wave that invented fanfic, back in the mid-1970s, which pretty well got that out of my system), but I’m loving some of the 50 Shades critiques. Such as Kelly Conaboy, at Defamer, on “The Disastrous 50 Shades of Grey Press Tour“:
According to its publisher, at the spike of its popularity, two copies of E.L. James’ 50 Shades of Grey trilogy were being sold every second. In accessible terms, that works out to more than one hundred million copies sold, to date.
Let’s undertake a thought experiment. Imagine that—rather than paper and ink—each of those books were composed of: a look of unabashed contempt; a single embittered sigh; an explicit request that audiences not see the film adaptation of 50 Shades of Grey, vocalized by one of the movie’s main stars. Imagine one hundred million pained expressions, one hundred million eyes rolled, one hundred million uncomfortable pauses that peter out into one hundred million dead silences.
You have imagined the press tour for the upcoming film 50 Shades of Grey—by now firmly established as among the most disastrous of the past decade, if not so far this century.
The most glaring problem with the press blitz—currently several months underway, though the film will not be released for another two weeks—is also the most damning for the upcoming film: Simply put, romantic leads Dakota Johnson and Jamie Dornan do not like each other. They dislike other things as well—the press; sex; the film in which they are starring—but it is clear their distaste for each other is the most keenly felt of all.
A routine visit to TODAY takes on the excruciating air of a court-ordered couples therapy session. The experience of filming is recounted in Vogue with a gravity typically reserved for describing a violent, horrific trauma.
It is not difficult to picture Dornan and Johnson luring one another into a “Red Room of Pain.” It stretches the capacity of the imagination to think that both would emerge alive…
Many hilarious details, with pictures for verification, at the link. Including a quote from Dornan: “Your dignity is intact as much as it’s all tucked away in a little flesh-coloured bag….”
schrodinger's cat
I have a better suggestion than the Fifty Shades.
lamh36
Yeah, what made Secretary a much better film, aside from not being crappy fan fic and better writing, was that the two leads Spader and Maggie G committed to their roles. When doing interviews, they didn’t seem to hate each other, nor did they seem to disdain the source material.
Crappy as 50 Shades is, if either star (Dornan is getting most of the bad reviews) really couldn’t be bothered with the source material, then alot of times, unless you are like the BEST ACTOR EVER, it shows in performance. And no offense to these, two, but “Best actors” they aint!
jayjaybear
The amusing thing is that these two can’t even initiate a hiatus in hostilities for the…what? 1/2 hour?…that a joint interview about the film takes to complete. I can’t imagine how horribly they interacted for weeks and weeks while shooting extremely intimate scenes. This movie may be The-Room-levels of hilarious suck.
Botsplainer
We went, as was described a couple of threads below. I asked the Mrs if she experienced any titillation; she was generally unimpressed, as was I.
Too much free internet porn these days.
Suzanne
All the reviews I’ve seen have been of the flavor “Not great, but not awful”. Tippi Hedren’s granddaughter is cute. I wish they could have gotten Khal Drogo to play the dude. I’d be hot and bothered just watching the credits.
Omnes Omnibus
@Suzanne: Thank you for sharing.
Fair Economist
I would have thought one of the top (pardon the pun) requirements for the actors would be that they were at least sort of into the kinds of sexual activities in the book. That’s not a particularly stringent requirement – it’s a minority interest, but it’s hardly rare, judging by the overwhelming success of the book. I’m sure that in any given week there must be hundreds of actors in Hollywood engaging in these kinds of activities for free and with relish (figuratively, not literally, although perhaps literally too).
@jayjaybear:
I’d think that months of unpleasant (for them) sexual activities with each other would greatly intensify any dislike and perhaps create it where it wasn’t there to start with.
Suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus: Khal Drogo is HOT. Forget Ned or Robb Stark and the Red Wedding. Khal Drogo was the best character on that show.
Suzanne
@Fair Economist: Relish. Huh. Gonna have to give that a whirl.
Gravenstone
@Suzanne: It’s going to be weird to think of him as Aquaman in a few years.
Violet
@lamh36: “Secretary” is a terrific film. Both leads were fantastic in it.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Suzanne:
Careful, you might find yourself in a pickle.
Omnes Omnibus
The discussion of Titanic on an earlier thread and this topic brought this song to my mind. Although it is an insult to the late, great Kirsty to associate her with the aforementioned. Another of hers that might go with the theme.
rikyrah
Having read all three books, I go back and forth about seeing the movie. No great literature- at all.
Schlemazel
I am hoping for a remake starring Billy Gardell and Melissa McCarthy. You still couldn’t make me watch that drewk with the set up from A Clockwork Orange but it would at least make the conversations about it interesting.
jayjaybear
Yes, Jason Momoa is sex on a stick. I give Kit Harrington points for being unbelievably pretty, but Momoa has him beat by miles on “hot”.
PurpleGirl
The book may have sold millions of copies but how many people actually finished reading it?
jayjaybear
@rikyrah: Well, it started life as Twilight fanfic (literally…this is not a metaphor). That puts it way behind on points on both counts right there.
Bob In Portland
Senator Inhofe has found Russian tanks in Ukraine!
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@PurpleGirl:
I’m pretty sure those are the kind of books you skip around in.
We’re watching “Some Like It Hot” instead — one of my all-time favorite movies.
jayjaybear
Well…nobody’s perfect!
Omnes Omnibus
@Bob In Portland:
If only others had as much sense.
wasabi gasp
Betty White and Wilford Brimley.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Feuding co-stars…. Off the top of my head, Clark Gable and Vivien Leign, Cybill Sheperd and Bruce Willis, and of course, everybody’s favorite: Fred and Ethel.
Another Holocene Human
@jayjaybear: It would be hard to beat the Room. Which I’ve never seen in its entirety but I’ve seen the Youtube clips and snark.
Everyone will forget about this in two weeks, it’s the one hit wonder of movies, some sort of stupid cultural phenomenon that crested and now it broke.
EL James is extremely lucky person who jumped on a trend at exactly the right time. At the time the book was selling the fastest it was being spread around on reputation by people who had never read it. I think Mackay had some choice words about that kind of thing.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Debra Winger and Richard Gere loathed each other on “An Officer and a Gentleman.”
Yatsuno
@Another Holocene Human:
The Canadian defence minister?
@Omnes Omnibus: Too subtle, Yer Honour.
lamh36
@Another Holocene Human: true, exept thanks to all the “hate-watching” and “legions of fans” already spending their money, the movie is optioned for 2 more flicks…which is funny cause the two leads hate each other so much, how the hell do they make a go 2 more times?
Unless…straight to video replacement actors?
lamh36
Like I’ve said before, you couldn’t pay me to see this movie. I’m putting my money up for Kingsmen next week.
Anne Laurie
@Bob In Portland: Bad news, Bob — those pics have been discredited:
The world is full of conspiracies, and some of them are designed to entrap you.
lamh36
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): The linked blog also mentioned Patrick Swazye and Jennifer Grey, now I’ve never considered either of them “great actors”, but heck if they didn’t pull off the pairing in Dirty Dancing.
Another Holocene Human
@lamh36: I was very silly and watched Hobbit last week – and enjoyed it.
Omnes Omnibus
Also seeming apropos tonight is this. OTOH, I might actually be a bit demented. Just saying. I guess I could go for the obvious and post “Darling Nikki” but Prince patrols YouTube too well.
ETA: Video aside, it is actually a fairly heartfelt remake of an Eddie Cochran classic, IMO.
Another Holocene Human
@lamh36: It looks poised to make money, unlike the last movie that got mocked this hard on the internets, Kirk Cameron’s “Saving Christmas”.
Of course that movie was a flop b/c they insulted their audience. Church basement flicks should not appeal doctrinally to a congregation consisting of one (1), Kirk Cameron. When the army of bots expected to purchase the DVDs thinks your movie is actually heretical, what was it that Rick Perry said for a situation like this? Oops.
Another Holocene Human
@Anne Laurie: Isn’t BiP (belatedly) posting them as some sort of double flip false flag, the photos that “prove” Russian army invaded Ukraine are shown to be obvious fakes so therefore Russian army didn’t invade Ukraine, that’s logic and you’re a Nazi.
So there no backsies.
Omnes Omnibus
@Another Holocene Human: The fact that you don’t understand it shows just how dangerous it is.
Morzer
@Bob In Portland:
Next up, Jim Inhofe works on the “Finding one’s own ass with both hands problem”.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: With or without a compass?
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
Real Conservatives use sundials to find true north.
Yatsuno
@Omnes Omnibus: Compasses are for librul weenies! Real Merikans use their inherent sense of direction!
Morzer
@Another Holocene Human:
You should see what Romanov in Portland can do with the old Politburo photographs that prove that none of the show trial victims were standing next to Stalin!
wasabi gasp
@Omnes Omnibus: You can thank me later…or never…whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAHB68hfhW4
BillinGlendaleCA
@Morzer: My watch has a compass.
BruceFromOhio
50 Sheds of Grey.
At the touch of her lips, it grew long and swollen.
I sighed as she squeezed and pulled expertly.
It was the best balloon giraffe I’d seen.
‘Hurt me!’ she begged, leaning over the dining table expectantly.
‘OK,’ I replied, ‘Your turkey’s too dry and your sprouts are overcooked.’
‘So,’ she asked, ‘Have you suffered enough?’
‘Yes!’ I cried, desperately, ‘No more emails with pictures of kittens wearing hats!’
Another Holocene Human
Maybe it’s just a false flag, but when I considered false flag (ft. Semen Semenchenko) I just wondered how the Russians could be so clumsy as to think Americans even wingers were that dumb, like the psyops just didn’t make sense. But then I have to wonder about the pro-Ukrainian nationalists being that stupid, okay to be fair some of them are, but with an online culture of tearing apart every image using Google Earth, recycling a pic from Ossetia just seems outlandish.
But maybe it’s neither Ukrainian nor Russian. We’re talking about Inhofe, one of the dumbest right wingers in political life today. We’re talking about the MIC and their libertarian think tank handmaidens. We’re talking about lazy winger interns who usually earn their bread ghost writing lazy RW columns for names. Real Russian army pics, fake attribution would be bread and butter goes without notice daily fare for the bottom bilge puke funnel right wing websites we know and love like Breitbart, WND, Gateway Pundit, and so on. Twitchy and tcot and Facebook even more so. #tcot is completely stuffed with fake memes. You could debunk them all day long but they just won’t die. Fake quotes. Fake pix. It goes on and on.
So false, but not a false flag. That’s the double dutch cross your fingers no backsies straight up American lyin’ for Jesus flag. All praise the almighty dollar.
Well, I dunno about you, but I’ve convinced myself. Those photos came from inside the house.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Yatsuno: They feel it in their gut(h/t to Colbert).
BruceFromOhio
‘I’m desperate for a man’s touch in the bedroom,’ she begged.
So I left my socks and trousers on the floor.
Major Major Major Major
We went to the park and engaged in legal substances whilst scoping out all the hot shirtless guys, seeing as how it was like 80 degrees out.
So, y’know, I’m just using this open thread to gloat about San francisco in February.
Another Holocene Human
@Omnes Omnibus: There are plenty of wingers today who think it’s trufax that George W Bush DID SO NOT you liar skip out on his of dire importance Texas Air National Guard service without getting punished for it like a common plebe because Dan Rather tried to confirm it with fake documents that were proven to be fake, liar liar pants on fire.
I think there was an Agatha Christie plot like that too.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@lamh36:
Speaking of the movie I’m watching right now, Tony Curtis HATED Marilyn Monroe. One of his famous quotes is that having to kiss her was like kissing Hitler.
(Monroe was notorious for needing 40+ takes of even the simplest scenes and for being completely unable to remember her lines, so other actors usually disliked her. Billy Wilder was the only director to make more than one film with her.)
Omnes Omnibus
@wasabi gasp: Colors work. Nicely played. Here is a different color,
NotMax
Shouldn’t that be two hundred million eyes rolled?
lamh36
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): was she just dumb, flighty, dyslexic or all of the above?
Omnes Omnibus
@Another Holocene Human: And they are idiots.
BruceFromOhio
I’m wondering about actors that may have enjoyed working together. Morgan Freeman and Ashley Judd, perhaps?
Omnes Omnibus
Holy shit. FXX plays reruns of Living Color. Bedtime might be postponed.
Steeplejack
I feel like I should know who this guest actress is on Law and Order—the multiple-personality murderer in the episode that started at 11:00 p.m. EST on We—but I can’t place her. And now I can’t look her up because my on-screen guide sometimes does this weird thing at midnight where the previous day’s info gets trashed, and now the episode title is gone. (So now recourse to IMDB.)
Jeez, talk about First World problems . . .
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): My mother-in-law met Marilyn Monroe in Korea, she worked for the US Army during the Korean War. My wife’s mom passed away before I met my wife.
Steeplejack
@wasabi gasp:
Had to go to Virginia O’Brien for palate-cleansing relief after that.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@lamh36:
Apparently, dyslexic and extremely insecure. A nice person to the cast and crew, but had to be coaxed into a performance.
BruceFromOhio
She told me she was into extreme bondage . . so I took her to see Skyfall six times.
Morzer
@BruceFromOhio:
I bet she did her best to beat The Living Daylights out of you before leaving you to Die Another Day.
Omnes Omnibus
@BruceFromOhio: You bastard. Watching a DB-5 get destroyed is too much – even once (even though I know it was a fake).
ruemara
My romantic evening involved eating cold leftover tuna steak, a whole raw cucumber that was just this close to a trash date and a handful of peanut butter chips. And I’m watching a quite drecky movie, “Meet My Valentine”, which behind the schmaltz has a man stupid enough to believe he shouldn’t tell his wife he has a tumor and less than a year to live, plus obnoxious enough to think he should pre-screen a man to step into his shoes once he’s gone. Don’t you think your wife has something to say about who enters her life? IF she even wants someone else? I am just never sure about these movies.
Edited to note that he’s also driving around with his daughter in the car even though he gets dizzy spells. I kinda want to bonk him.
BruceFromOhio
@Morzer: You Only Live Twice, Mr. Bond.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@jayjaybear:
“There are laws! Conventions!”
“There’s also the ladies’ morgue!”
Peale
Meh. I skipped it. I’ve skipped the whole phenomena, actually. Got into a little fight with my partner about going to see the movie on Valentine’s day. I figured that I might be better off alone than watching it.
We went to see What we do in the Shadows instead. Not romantic either, but there is a lack of romance going on in the theaters this month. If you can’t find a movie where two folks stare into each other’s eyes whilst walking in the moonlight, vampire mockumentaries are probably the second best bet.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
good, it should be.
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Okay, the actress in question is Francie Swift. She was tingling my spidey sense because she was also in a particularly memorable episode of Law and Order: Criminal Intent where she was a crazy (but mild-mannered) killer who developed a (non-crazy) crush on Robert Goren (Vincent D’Onofrio) and they did a semi-tragic pas de deux before the crashing end. Some really touching scenes where you could see them warming to each other but you knew it was going to go terribly wrong. That episode was “Semi-Detached.”
Found the Law and Order episode (“Switch”) by going to the IMDB entry for the midnight episode, for which I did have the name, and then going to “previous episode.” Bingo!
Man, I have got way too much time on my hands.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Okay, whatchu got?
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
Oh, Mr. Omnes, whatever do you mean?
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: Did you take Mnem’s test? I am what I am. But I developed charm and it makes up for a lot. As I said below, I might be Lucifer.
Steeplejack
@ruemara:
That’s got to be Hallmark Movie Channel, right? They really bring the stupid when it comes to romance movies.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Music. I’ve been dropping things. If I am going to stay up, the music has to be interesting.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Not yet. The more I thought about it I’m pretty sure I’m an INFP right on the edge of ENFP. Got an “official” test once at some job, then later confirmed it with some on-line test. Had to think for a bit to remember what all the letters represent.
ruemara
@Steeplejack: Strangely, no. some local channel, ION. I wish I got TCM
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
oh, you know you don’t like what I bring, like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7-CKirWZE
but what are you dropping? this place?
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Don’t look at me. I’m spent after going back to my roots in the thread last night. Although when I saw your Fine Young Cannibals song I did immediately think of this.
Morzer
@Steeplejack:
Apparently I am an FYWP.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: It is weird. I tend to be a good diplomat, but it doesn’t come from from the F side, it comes from the T. “What would some sensitive bugger think?” OTOH, I cry at too many movies.
Little Boots
damn, can’t remember all that. introverted, something about diplomatic, yeah, I could see that.
Steeplejack
@ruemara:
I get Ion, or at least a channel called Ion. Flashpoint and lots of Criminal Minds reruns? Parenthood is on right now (EST).
Little Boots
shoot, what the heck is F, and don’t be vulgar?
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
Flashmobs are scary. Also scooters.
ETA: I like that song. The video doesn’t fit.
lamh36
@Steeplejack: The L&O franchise is notorious for re-using actors for different roles, sometimes on the same series…but I guess that’s to be expected when you’ve been rolling for upwards of 20 years now
Steeplejack
@Morzer:
Hey, we all test positive for FYWP.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
Fine. don’t tell me. wait, is it fine?
lamh36
@Steeplejack: ugh…don’t get me started, first it was 24 hr Christmas movies starting in fuckin’ October, then they had been showing 24hr “love story” movies until Valentine weekend since January!!!!!
All I freakin’ want is to watch Golden Girls nightly on Hallmark Channel like I’ve been doing, and instead I gotta try to catch them when I can on another network.
I feel like Kirk with Khan whenever I turn to Hallmark Channel…I’m just all “HALLLLMMMMARRRKKK” with the fist raised to the air.
Little Boots
@lamh36:
damn, ain’t it the truth. just golden girls in a continuous loop. is that too much, america?
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
Feeling (vs. thinking).
Morzer
@Little Boots:
According to Bobby Romanov, F = Fascist.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
that’s it. feeling. yeah, again. seems to work.
BillinGlendaleCA
Crackerbox Palace
Little Boots
and yeah, omnes is more T
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Surprised.
ETA: Baby, I Don’t Care.
Steeplejack
@lamh36:
My dirty Hallmark secret is Perry Mason—original series, not the later TV movies. Also the Jesse Stone movies, which they just binge-aired yet again last weekend.
Just the promos for those romance movies make me feel stupider.
Hal
@lamh36: Logo runs the Golden Girls all the time. Saturdays in the afternoon all the way into the night. My big complaint is that the editing is terrible. Each channel edits the episodes in different ways and they have cut some of the best parts out of episodes and removed story lines all together.
Amazon has all seasons available for purchase so I’ve just gone that route now. 20 bucks a pop is steep, but I watch the Golden Girls so much it’s worth it, and these episodes are close to what ran originally on tv.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Morzer: I thought the Bolsheviks got rid of the Romanovs.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
wait, surprised? me surprised? you’re surprised to be T?
not sure what that means.
lamh36
@Hal: yeah, I really need to just go ahead and buy the complete set, but I like just turning on the tv and letting the episodes play in the background
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: i was surprised by your music choice. I expected something from the ’70s.
lamh36
@Omnes Omnibus: just checked out the personality website ya’ll were talking about in a previous thread….it was pretty interesting.
It def described me pretty much to a tee. It said I’m an “ISTJ”
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m contemporizing. sort of.
Little Boots
and incidentally, so T
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: Where did you come out? If you don’t mind saying.
ETA: You already answered that question.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: I was somewhat surprised as well.
BillinGlendaleCA
This thread needs more Badfinger.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Let Me Dream If I Want To……
I may go with Mink DeVille for a while.
lamh36
@Omnes Omnibus:
ISTJ
Little Boots
@lamh36:
yes, and in a good way. yes.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@lamh36:
I sometimes switch between Perceiving and Judging, but I think it depends on my job situation. If I have the structure of a regular job, I can be more P, but if I’m not working, I need to be more J.
For the confused, here’s the website: http://16personalities.com
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: We are opposites in personality – not in goals.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
it did.
Morzer
@BillinGlendaleCA:
It was all just a false flag operation.
Omnes Omnibus
More Mink.
Steeplejack
@lamh36:
Yeah, I know. I never used to watch any of those series, then I started binge-watching them about six months ago, since they’re in big rerun blocks on a bunch of channels—i.e., unavoidable. I came to really like Criminal Intent, especially Goren and Eames. Law and Order is interesting, definitely a little long in the tooth.
I have come to hate Special Victims Unit. It’s ridiculously over the top, and Stabler becomes a monster as the series goes on. Benson’s getting a little out there too. Fin and Munch are cool, and I have liked the episodes (that I’ve seen) with Rollins and her problems with gambling and her sister. But anyone even remotely suspected of a sex crime is obviously a worthless piece of scum, and there are way too many scenes of Stabler roughing up a suspect or gleefully telling him “they’re gonna tear your cherry ass apart in Attica” (direct quote!), only to be interrupted by the lieutenant saying, “The DNA test came back—it’s not him.” Oops, they’re off after someone else, and the non-suspect is left sitting in his urine-soaked pants and needing years of therapy. I know it’s just a TV show, but c’mon. It’s getting up there with Criminal Minds on my hate-watching list. Actually, I’m about done with that. It has gone way around the bend, and I am finding it too painful to watch Jennifer Love Hewitt.
/rant off
Little Boots
@Morzer:
exactly, anastasia lives. she’s 130, but dammit she’s out there!!!
lamh36
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): I’m like to think I’m not as strict in the job related points. I’m pretty easy going I’d say, but I do “know what I know” and I expect to be able to find what I don’t know in easily acessible procedural form.
The romantic bit does fit though, def fits me to a tee…
Sooo true for me…
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
better. see, I’m trying.
lamh36
@Steeplejack: ha. yeah, Stabler def was over the top, but gawd did I love Chris Meloni. Dont’ know why, but I found him soooo hawt. As did many others I assume, since it was obvious that towards the end they were just finding ways to show Stabler either without his shirt, or with a “wife-beater” t-shirt on or extremely tighter and tighter dress shirts. I expected the dude to bust out of them ala Bruce Banner when he got angry, which was often!
Morzer
@Little Boots:
She and Cthulhu run a really delightful deli in Brookline together.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: And the Beatles.
Little Boots
@lamh36:
trying to get back to his OZ days.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Here.
lamh36
@Little Boots: ah…basically!
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
even better. and I can be nineties, by the way, Mister T:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiKVjS3gR88
Suzanne
INTJ. Like Draco Malfoy and Emperor Palpatine, according to the Internet.
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus: I’ll do one more and move on…. Here.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@lamh36:
The coworker I’ve been having conflicts with over a project is the exact opposite of me, which is fine 90 percent of the time. What the problem is right now is that, by trying to make my part of a project run more smoothly, I apparently gave the impression that I was challenging her position, which is totally antithetical to the way I think, so I was involved in a power struggle without realizing it.
The funny part is, I’ve pretty much said to myself, “Fuck it, that project’s not my problem,” and I think she sees that as me finally respecting her authoritah!
And since all late night threads become music threads, Pennywise said what I think about the situation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j5arZGgyGSc
Little Boots
@Morzer:
I would go to that borsht and elder gods strange geometry unknown to man deli.
I would.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Suzanne:
My personality type is Frodo Baggins and my spouse’s is Sam Gamgee, so I guess we really are perfect for each other. ;-)
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: How about this?
Steeplejack
@lamh36:
Oh, hell, even my 84-year-old mother was like “That Detective Stabler is really good.” C’mon, Mom, you’re practically drooling!
And, yeah, I noticed a lot of him “getting dressed” in the morning or “changing his shirt” at the station, etc. LOL. I think his wife got a crap deal, by the way. She should have divorced his ass about five times.
Little Boots
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
that was love. so yes, perfect.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
not erasure. but okay I guess.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I keep thinking I don’t like the Beatles, and then every time, it’s except that one, and that one, and that one, so … maybe need to rethink the whole thing.
lamh36
@Steeplejack: she should have been divorced him, soooo many times. but they were playing Stabler with all this “Catholic guilt” and stuff and Olivia as…I don’t really know what they were playing early Olivia as, but they made the dynamic one of Stabler being “quick-tempered” and Benson being “even-tempered” with none of the religious guilt?
Steeplejack
@Suzanne:
But also Gandalf and Walter White from Breaking Bad.
BillinGlendaleCA
Goo goo g’joob
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
walter white, yes, but gandalf? is that true? could be.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: It is Vince Clark with a voice. Alison Moyet was the first voice he had. What he did with Erasure was a pale comparison to what he did before. Just saying.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
okay, does anyone actually like that one?
lamh36
Alrighty, I guess it’s time for me to get some work done, although it’s pretty quiet here at the hospital Micro lab right now, at this time of night, it’s mostly impatient blood cultures and emergency room patients. Add to it that this is carnival weekend, and it’s basically a holiday like environment until after Tuesday. No clinics scheduled, no surgeries scheduled, and not much else other than emergency surgeries and practices
So good night juicers. 3 more night shifts to go…
srv
Ah, the memories of Bimbo Eruptions!
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
could you be a little less T please, and:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjdt6pSVMKg
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
Hey, that’s what the site says.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: I do. Don’t Let Me Down.
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Once Vince lost Alison, how can you say he did well?
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
what does your heart say, Mr. F?
and am I allowed to diagnose everyone like this, cause i should be?
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: Wonderful.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Little Boots:
I’m pretty sure OO doesn’t swing that way. Sorry and all that.
My dentist’s mind was slightly blown when he found out the two (male) singers for Air Supply are/were a couple. Kind of puts a new meaning on that entire catalog.
ETA: Google tells me the rumors are not confirmed, so who knows.
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
Eh, it’s in the bottom 100 of their songs.
I yield to no one in my love for the Beatles, but my shameful secret is that I
hatedon’t like “Let It Be.” Goddamn song goes on forever.Little Boots
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
hey, everyone can love erasure.
okay, that’s totally untrue.
Little Boots
@lamh36:
everyone in a hospital should be listening to erasure, i think.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
and you call yourself an F.
that’s one of the ones I have to go … yeah, that one.
BillinGlendaleCA
Looking for Harrison’s “This Song” last night, ran across his last public performance. Forty minutes long and only 3 songs, but interesting.
Harrison Interview
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
I don’t know. I just want you to play music.
Steeplejack
@lamh36:
I agree with that. And then later they try to make Olivia “grittier” or tougher or something. I’m not sure with what success. And, like I said, she’s getting a little out there. I think there have been a couple of times where she told some suspect he’s gonna get messed up in prison. “Olivia! There’s just been another murder uptown. He’s not the guy.” Oops again.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
that is definitely one of the best.
Little Boots
everyone’s sleepy.
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
Okay, my favorite early-period (Beatles) George Harrison song: “I Need You.” Nice and minimal. My favorite tonight, anyway.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steeplejack: They lost me too for the same reason, even though Mariska Hargitay are fellow alums.
Little Boots
oh, I was going to play everyone out. now I can’t.
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
I’m fading. I threw this one out for you last night, with no luck. Firefall, “It Doesn’t Matter.”
Song written by one of my favorites, Stephen Stills. Compare and contrast. I think Firefall holds their own.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
nice. like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNGnIKUdMI
Omnes Omnibus
@Little Boots: Work on it….
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
fading too, and that is nice. and sorry I didn’t catch it last night.
BillinGlendaleCA
Get Back.
Little Boots
@Omnes Omnibus:
see, this is why … oh never mind. are you around for awhile?
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
and this. dammit, are you on a quest, cause it’s actually totally working.
Steeplejack
@Little Boots:
I was immersed in my crackro-American roots.
Listened to some more today and found this great performance from Dolly Parton: “Coat of Many Colors.”
BillinGlendaleCA
I guess this may be appropriate for some, eh most Good Night.
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Nite-nite.
Anne Laurie
@lamh36:
We watch a lot of British TV serials, via Netflix & Acorn. The same faces keep turning up over and over in different roles across different series — it can be a little disconcerting when your mind tries to “put together” a character from one mystery series (say, Lovejoy) with the character they’re playing in Pie in the Sky ten years later, or A Touch of Frost ten years earlier.
Steeplejack
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Or we could be walkin’ after midnight.
ETA: Okay, I’m not going down that road again tonight. I’m out. (Might check back after I brush my teeth.)
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
nice, and I have to go into a rant here. I don’t mind a little plastic surgery, but goddammit, what the hell has this lovely woman done to herself. I think she would be a lovely older woman right now, but …, oh dammit.
okay, rant done.
Steeplejack
@Anne Laurie:
Yeah, that’s true too. I have a good eye for faces (on screeen—not in real life, damn it), and I’m always getting distracted by thoughts like “Wait, wasn’t he Count Spinetti in The Castle of Otranto?,” etc.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack:
that would be nice.
but if we are going to go country, this, best ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-eclUz-RYI
BillinGlendaleCA
Hey Jude
BillinGlendaleCA
Maybe some Elton…
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
don’t know if I love you or your persistence more.
Little Boots
or lynn anderson. it might be lynn anderson.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Little Boots:
Nice. Written by my man Joe South, who does a good version too.
Little Boots
@Steeplejack (phone):
really? well, okay, one of the best.
Little Boots
and if singer and song can come together, well, lynn anderson.
Little Boots
it’s just one of those, adult, songs. I love it.
Little Boots
was I mean about dolly? cause, I truly love that lady, and wish …
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: You mean this person?
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
actually …yeah, she looks lovely. the hell?
Little Boots
wait, was that 1980?
Anne Laurie
@Omnes Omnibus: I checked the 16personalities site, but I think I’m too old for it — the whole thing felt like newspaper astrology babble to me. I came out as an INFP, but I think I could retake the quiz 15 times & come out with 15 different results without trying!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: Yup.
anderj
Long time lurker and I just flew in from the Netherlands for a week in part for a family visit. Any suggestions for activities next week? Me and my girlfriend planning on doing Mardi Gras in Mobile (if there is anything to that, to honor last weeks developments. Is Mardi Gras in general any good there? Are there others things we should do? Me and my girlfriend live hiking, nature in general, Nice food (what’s up with all these chains) and homebrewed beer (and there is a small brewery in Pensacola). Love to hear any and all suggestions.
Little Boots
@Anne Laurie:
he is a T though. and steeplejack is an F.
it’s a thing.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
see?
Little Boots
for omnes,if he is still around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ivUOnnstpg
Little Boots
oh, they may be done with me, here.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: I’m old enough to remember that song when it first came out.
Little Boots
@BillinGlendaleCA:
and it still works.
Little Boots
didn’t they try to start a sitcom with that?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Little Boots: I think they did.
BillinGlendaleCA
The story of my life Low Budget.
Another Holocene Human
@Anne Laurie: Touch of Frost: terrible name, good series.
Amir Khalid
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini):
As I recall, someone once made a movie about making a movie with Marilyn Monroe. There was that much drama in it.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Not to go all Mens Movement Tard and all that, but come on, in a society were nonsense like 50 Shades of Grey is a hit and people are losing sleep over computer game avatars and comic books (so an hour glass figure on a woman is an unrealistic expiation, how about a twenty something billionaire who would cater to your every wim? The “dom” isn’t the one really in control in BDSM, just saying)
NotMax
Anne Laurie
What you said.
Generalities and drivel. At least with a non-digital fortune cookie one ends up with a little something to chew on.
Pogonip
@Anne Laurie: Me too. I found it a glorified women’s-magazine quiz.
Mike in NC
Movie has a whopping 3.9 rating on IMDB.
Frankensteinbeck
@lamh36:
Marilyn Monroe was emotionally damaged to the point of being unable to take care of herself. She was also an incredible actress, and had an air of sensuality that came across on the movie screen so powerfully that people didn’t notice she was physically plain. She’s a fascinating and tragic person to read about, prone to deep depression, strongly attracted to abusive relationships, slept around to the point she was famous for it even in Hollywood, widely loved by everyone but her costars, and unable to maintain a relationship with the one husband who treated her well and who she never fell out of love with.
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
50 Shades isn’t BDSM. It’s rape fantasy, written by a woman for women. It’s a fantasy (note the word fantasy) of being forced to have incredibly satisfying sex against her will. The BDSM is incidental.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: @Pogonip: Yes, it is a shortened and simplified version of the Myers-Briggs test.
Mnemosyne
Okay, trying this comment again with no links since it went off into the ether for no apparent reason:
@Anne Laurie:
Myers-Briggs has been around for almost 50 years and gets used a lot for things like career counseling. Like most aspects of psychology, there’s not much scientific evidence and it’s very culturally based. Still, it’s a helpful starting point for things like job searches.
Mnemosyne
Link to the Wikipedia article.
EriktheRed
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
LOL…It’s my understanding Will Frawley (aka Fred) used to pass gas on set a lot just to piss off Vivian (Ethel).
Monala
Their interview is a real contrast to one I saw with two actors who also portrayed a situation that included physical, sexual and emotional violence: Michael Fassbender and Lupita N’yongo from 12 Years a Slave. The difference is, Fassbender and N’yongo actually like each other, and weren’t trying to portray the relationship as something romantic.* They described the ways they mentally and emotionally prepared themselves for the scenes in which Fassbender’s slave master beats or rapes N’yongo’s Patsy. They would hug each other for five full minutes before and after doing each scene.
* I’ve read several comments elsewhere by people who are into BDSM, who say that the movie is a misrepresentation of the lifestyle, and that the Christian-Ana relationship is indeed abusive.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Monala:
I suspect it helped that Fassbinder and director Steve McQueen had previously made “Shame” together, so they had some idea of how to help prepare a fellow actor for such difficult scenes. I’m guessing the director of “50 Shades” didn’t have much of a plan for how to film the scenes while still respecting the actors.
Buddy H
@Steeplejack: And then the group AMERICA ripped off the lyrics and melody, but nobody noticed!
“The Lost Pages Of 50 Shades Of Grey” – New Yorker shouts & murmurs parody:
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/lost-pages-fifty-shades-grey
Irony Abounds
And yet, with all the horrible reviews, all the negative press about the co-stars, and a bad rating from those who have gone to see it, the movie is killing it at the box office. Americans really are not very bright.
Amir Khalid
@Irony Abounds:
It’s not the first bad movie to be a big hit, and it won’t be the last. Movie studios aren’t against making good movies, as such; but what they really want to make is profitable movies. Making this one was a good business bet, even though it’s based on a book that stinks, because twe book does have a big fan following. And the bet is paying off. Fortunately, no one here in Malaysia will be contributing to its ticket sales.
Mnemosyne
@Irony Abounds:
It’s not just Americans — it made almost twice as much overseas as it did in the US.
People are curious about porn but don’t want to have to wade through what’s out there to find the stuff they like. This was basically pre-curated for them and given the Hollywood stamp of approval, so customers are flocking in droves. Plus, frankly, not much else was released this weekend, particularly for adults. Which would you rather see with your significant other, “50 Shades” or “American Sniper”?
(We stayed home and watched “Some Like It Hot” for the dozenth time, so the above is a rhetorical question.)