Scott Walker: "If i can take on 100,000 protesters, I can do the same across the globe." There were… fewer guns in the #WIunion protests.
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) February 26, 2015
SC Rep. Jeff Duncan buttonholes Nigel Farage. "I like to say I'm American UKIP." pic.twitter.com/zZpF9s1CW2
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) February 26, 2015
“… Ukip has now become the most popular party among white, male, working-class pensioners; this is the key to its success…. Women are just one of a number of groups that tend not to vote for Ukip. Others include young people, those with university degrees, and ethnic minorities, who tend not to be concerned over immigration and Europe.”
Tom Cotton advocates for policy of pursuing regime change in Iran, says Obama missed opportunity in 2009
— Rosie Gray (@RosieGray) February 26, 2015
Him & George Wallace RT @TPM: Ben Carson thinks Congress should punish federal judges who defy the will of the people http://t.co/91GWzTriJq
— Billmon (@billmon1) February 26, 2015
Walker doing the "I will feign personality by being LOUD" thing
— Jim Newell (@jim_newell) February 26, 2015
“Why does Ted Cruz love america” is the dumbest question i’ve ever heard in my life
— Rosie Gray (@RosieGray) February 26, 2015
lots of CPAC applause for executions by a Mid East monarch
— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) February 26, 2015
John Bolton promised that "overthrow of the ayatollahs" would be US policy "If I became president." #cpac15
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) February 26, 2015
Christie's first example of how he'd beat Clinton is by fighting over minimum wage
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) February 26, 2015
generally nothing good comes out of "Ron Paul told Lew Rockwell"
— Jim Newell (@jim_newell) February 24, 2015
How much has right given up on gay marriage? Cruz thunderbolt is…to let states do their own thing.
— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) February 26, 2015
Someone ask 2016 GOP aspirants at #CPAC2015 what they think about the llama situation in Arizona right f**king now.
— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) February 26, 2015
shelley
He took on the protestors? Is that why they tried to ban the protestors from the Capital building?
shelley
So sad that Charlie Pierce won’t be attending this year. We’ll be missing some excellent, erudite snark.
scav
@efgoldman: He certainly views — moreover is proud and boasts of viewing — a good number of his constituents and fellow Wisconsin citizens as dangerous resident enemies.
Woodrowfan
The original CPAC meetings in Nuremberg circa 1933-1939 were more dramatic and had better choreography.
Mike in NC
@efgoldman: FOX News and the rest of the wingnut media back then reported that those protestors were smashing windows, burning cars, and assaulting innocent bystanders. All, of course, bullshit that was duly parroted by the right wing noise machine.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
Comparing peaceful American citizens exercising their first amendment rights to terrorists sounds almost… anti-American.
Major Major Major Major
OT: EEG sez I have cyclothymia, I guess.
Kinda makes sense.
jl
Reposted from previous CPAC thread:
not definitive if this was cause of his suicide, but a glimpse of the dark side of the GOP klown kar
Jaw Dropping
‘ …Missouri State Auditor Tom Schweich died today of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. Schweich was considered a leading candidate to run for governor.
Now the editorial page editor of the St Louis Post-Dispatch, Tony Messenger, has come forward to say that in the days leading up to Schweich’s suicide he had confided to Messenger that he was planning to reveal that the head of the state Republican party was leading a whispering campaign suggesting that Schweich was in fact a Jew. ‘
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/jay-dropping
TPM promises to look closely into this incident. I hope they do.
David Koch
Morzer
I am amused to see the real essence of UKIP so deftly summed up by the fact that a teabagger wants to link himself to the movement. Considering how desperately the UKIP propagandists have been denying that the party is made up of right wing racists, bigots and assorted fuckwits, it’s intriguing that they couldn’t even fool a South Carolina Republican.
shelley
This was good for a chuckle…The Daily Caller reporting on Sarah Palins speech at CPAC..
“followed a remarkably focused speech on veterans”
So I guess it’ big news if she manages to deliver a coherent speech.
Morzer
@David Koch:
Springtime for Ted Cruz and Texany….
Hungry Joe
@Woodrowfan: Where’s Leni Riefenstahl when you need her?
Chris
Loudly rooting for the Green Movement in 2009 would have made things worse for them, not better.
Mike J
@jl:
Last night I was watching the old sitcom channel. They show Carol Burnett at 11pm. Their first sketch was showing how they rehearse scenes. Carol enters and says, “Oh, hello Mrs. Greenblum, how’s your husband?” And then the director cuts in and says, “Can we change that name? Too Jewish.” And Carol says, “Better not take any chances, let’s just go with Smith.”
Zinsky
@jl: Wow! I hadn’t heard about that.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
They’ve been doing their best to run for election without allowing the media to ask questions or hold debates. I imagine that will only intensify as Walker shambles to the podunkium to declare victory in the primary.
Hal
How is Walker going to do in PA, MI and OH being so virulently anti-union? It’s such an odd position to take, especially when Republicans need those states to win. If the Dem can duplicate Obama’s wins in CO and VA and hell, maybe even NC could be in play, that would leave someone like Walker in a position where he would have to win PA, MI and/orOH/FL to win the election.
David Koch
Oberst Walker’s speech was better in the original German
David Koch
@jl: Obviously, Hillary killed him and made it look like a suicide. Also too, LLAMAGHAZI!
pseudonymous in nc
Are you a rich workshy commodities trader with a man-of-the-people xenophobic schtick? If not, you’re unfit to touch the gurning Flange.
I mean, it doesn’t even make sense. But then again, he is from Lesser Carolina.
SiubhanDuinne
@shelley:
I agree with you. On the other hand, I’m not enjoying Charlie much these days, because I absolutely HATE the revamp of the website. It’s horrible.
Morzer
A bit of good news:
Ed at Gin and Tacos has retaken control of the radio station and seized the rhetorical means of production for the people. Or, in contemporary demotic Anglo-Saxon, the site is back up.
Woodrowfan
@David Koch: Good God, the comments for that video are scary, oh wait, it’s Youtube. I notice that the person who posted the video cut it before they blew up the swastika.
cmorenc
Well then, can we reasonably take that as John Bolton volunteering to go to Iran to personally lead the first wave of assaults against Tehran? I certainly take it that way, since Bolton said that though he supported the Vietnam war, he only enlisted in the Maryland National Guard to avoid being sent there because he didn’t want to die in a rice paddy for a war already lost. And Bolton’s proposed policy indicates he certainly doesn’t think a prospective war with Iran is any “lost cause”.
Meanwhile, I’ve got an even better idea for chickenhawk John Bolton: why don’t you volunteer to be among the American “boots on the ground” you are so eager to commit to fighting ISIS on Syrian/Iraqui soid? Can’t think of a tougher-talking man to send.
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
I had to look up cyclothymia. I hope it is something that can be handled with a judicious combination of meds and therapy and whatever other approaches are best for you. Good luck.
jl
Not all of the Klown Kar show is at CPAC. I was watting for this, wonder what took him so long?
Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A ‘Hoax’
‘ Inhofe went on to list the recent cold temperatures across parts of the United States, which included 67 new record lows earlier this week… as evidence that global warming claims are overhyped. “We hear the perpetual headline that 2014 has been the warmest year on record. But now the script has flipped.”
Despite the record lows in some parts of the country, the nation overall has been experiencing a warmer than average winter.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/26/jim-inhofe-climate-snow_n_6763868.html
Terracidal maniac, is what Inhofe is.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
Everything that I am seeing points to Jeb being denounced by the right wing of the right wing for being insufficiently teahadist – and it’s not as if he was polling at impressive levels to start with. I think Walker will be the nominee, although I don’t see him winning the big game.
SiubhanDuinne
@Morzer:
Yay! I’ve been checking two or three times a day for about a week, as well as seeing what (not much, as it turns out) he had to say about it on FB.
Thanks, I was about to call it a lost cause and give up.
SiubhanDuinne
@David Koch:
“Today, the pits; tomorrow, the wrinkles.” ~ Sunsweet Prunes via Stan Freberg
Hal
@jl: I have some conservative friends on Facebook who post this type of thing all the time. One lives in the south and they’ve had SNOW!!!! there! Take that fat Al Gore. In the middle of sweltering, non-stop, hotter than record summers? Crickets. But when winter hits climate change is a hoax.
Funny thing is, people still will reference how crazy the weather has become, but then posit one of their owns reasons; axial tilt has shifted, underwater volcanoes. As long as it’s not man made, or anything we can do to fix it that won’t hurt the fossil fuel industry or the Koch brothers.
Mandalay
@jl: The timeline seems bizarre:
So he kills himself less than 13 minutes after confirming an upcoming interview with AP?
And if this slimebag has a conscience it will hopefully be weighing really heavy right now…
Religious freedom right there, but just be sure you pick the right religion!
NotMax
Oh my stars and garters.
Republicans debating whether Idaho should be a Christian state
Morzer
@efgoldman:
Insert obligatory reference to Jews using blacks* and Illinois Nazis.
*Possibly now Muslims using Jews using blacks, what with sharia law spreading everywhere.
jl
@efgoldman: I hope people remember this garbage next time jackasses show up to teabagger/GOP events in Founders costumes…
If they are good workmen, they may be of Asia, Africa, or Europe. They may be Mohometans, Jews or Christians of any Sect, or they may be Atheists.
— George Washington, letter to Tench Tilghman asking him to secure a carpenter and a bricklayer for his Mount Vernon estate, March 24, 1784
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
— Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/
Oh, if only we could get back the country our Founders meant it to be!
Morzer
@jl:
Draft Julian the Apostate 2016!
trollhattan
@Hungry Joe:
Best wardrobe management job evar!
jl
@efgoldman: White Christian shaming, even back then?
Jay C
THIS particular bit of derp really stuck out, for me:
Did Sen. Cotton ever articulate exactly WHAT that “missed opportunity” might have been? Other than, of course, the default scenario of: “invade Iran with a huge army, and we’ll be greeted with flowers and candy”?
Or does just the merest mention of “Obama” and “missed opportunity” do it for these CPAC bozos as trenchant foreign-policy analysis? (rhetorical question. sadly.)
Morzer
@Jay C:
Well, Obama did fail to resign in favor of Generalissimo Cotton. Which was a missed opportunity from one very particular point of view.
jl
@Jay C: Interesting if somebody can figure out what he is talking about.
Might be just putting in random particulars to make BS sound more plausible.
Pogonip
@NotMax: Most of us Christians are not enthused with the government, of Idaho or anywhere else, deciding what qualifies as “Christianity.”. I hope they give up this idea.
jl
Lot of good quote at that positive atheism site. Here is one to quote if you need to refute any Xtianist BS
‘ It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service [writing the constitution] had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses. ‘
John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” (1787-88)
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/
Only problem is that Adams’ prediction was wrong, even if his history was right.
Edit: and
When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, ’tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.
Benjamin Franklin, letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780
Morzer
@jl:
Cotton has three selling points:
1) Looks purty
2) Was in the military
3) Never knowingly outcrazied in his relationship with the baggers.
Vague talk about missed opportunities (and hints of betrayal by The Great Kenyan Satan!) let him combine 2) and 3).
Tom Q
@efgoldman: People who keep citing Walker’s wins in WI never note that all three were in low-turnout elections (the ’10 and ’14 midterms, and the recall). A national election is a whole different ball game.
In fact, I’d argue WI sees one of the nation’s biggest turnout differentials between national and midterm elections. Consider: in 2010, a not-well-known, far-right Randian defeated three-term Senator Feingold. Two years later, a considerably more moderate, long-thought-popular Gov. Thompson lost to a liberal lesbian. Walker (and his boosters) seem to think the first outcome was reality; they’ll find out in 2016 how wrong they are.
jl
@Morzer: but, why 2009?
Mike J
@Tom Q: People who only show up every four years don’t really care that much about governance.
Morzer
@jl:
First full year of the Tyranny Of He Who Is Not One Of Us.
Major Major Major Major
@SiubhanDuinne: thanks.
Hildebrand
@Morzer: I may be over-thinking this, but I am guessing that Bush may welcome being ostracized by the ultra-right-wing types, as it makes him more palatable to the mythical centrists.
divF
@SiubhanDuinne: link here.
Freberg is brilliant.
sharl
APPOINTMENT TELEVISION, PEOPLE!!! And, they have the right man on this story.
Clear your schedule this evening.
Morzer
@Hildebrand:
Not if he wants to survive the primaries. Not too many centrist voters to be found among the hog-slicers of Iowa these days.
Anne Laurie
@jl: Oh, but John Adams wasn’t a “real” founding father, according to today’s True Conservatives(tm). They say it’s because he ‘treasonously’ defended the British soldiers who killed Crispus Attucks, but one suspects it has more to do with
himhis son defending the Amistad case…divF
@sharl:
A little Ogden Nash:
A one-l lama, that’s a priest
A two-l llama, that’s a beast
And I will bet a silk pyjama
There isn’t any three-l lllama
Morzer
@Anne Laurie:
Well, he was from the decadent liberal state of Massachusetts which.. oh, that’s right, set the whole goddamn independence movement in motion.
*another in the long, long line of awkward facts that conservatives try not to acknowledge*
raven
Rachel saying the Jeb’s troops are planning on packing the shitshow while the riechers plan to walk out!
Hildebrand
@Morzer: Mitt got through the primaries. So did McCain. Bush can get through.
SiubhanDuinne
@divF:
Nice to see it again. I remember that entire campaign very well. Brilliant indeed.
Fred Fnord
@Morzer: They don’t WANT to fool the righties… if they did, then nobody would join their party AT ALL.
SiubhanDuinne
@divF:
Possibly apocryphal, but I believe there was a fire chief who responded to the Nash poem by saying that his men always showed up at a three-L lllama (three alarmer).
Edit: He was probably from Bahstan.
Morzer
@Hildebrand:
But both of them were next in line – and had kissed considerable amounts of ass to win the prize. Jeb fails the first test and shows no sign of learning how to do the second with grace or skill.
raven
@SiubhanDuinne: Funny, the Wendy’s we walk by every morning burned today.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
I have no love for Wendy’s, but I hate to see stories like this. Glad nobody was hurt. Will you have your camera with you on tomorrow’s walk? Maybe you can share a few early-morning photos of the remains.
Edit: I assume there was a lot of ground beef that was, um, grilled in the fire. Pay close attention to Lil Bit and The Bhodi tomorrow. I expect their noses will be vibrating nearly off their faces.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
Gingrich certainly gave the Mittster some bad moments and Santorum hung in pretty late in the process as I recall.
Sherparick
@Morzer: But very Conservative. We liberals, hippies, union members, Blacks, Gays, Hispanics, and feminists are the Enemy as much as the Taliban.
Hildebrand
@Morzer: Maybe I am just being a putz, but Bush is cornering the ‘big dollar’ donor market, and that makes me think the rest is just a glorified show meant to keep the rubes in line. By the time Bush has tired everyone else out, the Tea Party folks will, very reluctantly, fall in line with the ‘electable’ one.
Citizen Alan
@sharl:
What, did the llamas disappear into a black hole or something?
raven
@SiubhanDuinne: Again, funny you mentioned it. Twice this week I could see the colors as we started out and didn’t go back and get my camera. Both were incredible red sunrises and my iPhone just did get it. The girl is playing hooky tomorrow and, if I let her sleep in, we’ll probably drive tomorrow and she’ll walk the pups when it warms up. Whew, that meant yes but I doubt if there will be more to see than what the paper has.
Morzer
I am convinced that JERBIL!! is doomed, because he has now received Joke Line’s endorsement on the grounds that while his policies are bad, his temperament is congenial.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2015/2/26/143237/342
raven
@SiubhanDuinne: They love that parking lot, the more trashed the better! The bakery is right behind it.
David Koch
Jebbie has pluses and minus.
Pluses: he’ll run limitless attack ads to drive the negatives of his competitors. he’ll have a large campaign apparatus to leverage Super Tuesday and post super Tuesday. GOP delegates are largelly allocated on winner take all basis, not proportional basis.
Minuses: voters don’t like him. he polls poorly against Hillary, denying him the crucial “i can beat her” card.
The electability card is one thing that ultimately saved Mittens. Everyone hated him, but Newt and Santorum were losing by 20 pts to the President, while Mittens was losing by only 4 pts. So the base held their nose and voted for him and his cheezy grits.
It’s really a toss up right now if Jebbie can win the nomination because while he has resources, what good does it do if voters think you can win.
kc
“UKIP?” It’s gotten so I have to do a Google search of something every time I read a post here . . .
Morzer
@David Koch:
Minuses: he is the veritable, the echt brother of the Accursed One, the Shrub-Outcast.
SiubhanDuinne
@Hildebrand:
I still think it’s going to be Walker. I think the Kochs want him and have the big $€¥£ to get him through the primaries. At this point, not sure which candidate would be worse, Jeb(!) or Scotty.
BBA
@pseudonymous in nc:
Doesn’t that also describe Tea Party “founder” Rick Santelli?
Morzer
@SiubhanDuinne:
Jeb’s the better national candidate, but Walker is more likely to get the base drooling.
srv
Walker sounds Reaganesque. The only question is how many times he’ll have to run to win.
muddy
@Morzer: I know, that squinting cross-eyed thing he has going on is so hot!
ETA: I meant Walker, but Jeb is kind of squinty too now that I think about it. And neither in cowboy sort of way.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
I think, as I have thought all along, that Walker will get the nomination. I also believe that Jerbil will fall out of contention much more rapidly than anyone expects.
SiubhanDuinne
@Morzer:
Another reason why I thnk Walker will end up with the nomination. I’m so sure of it, I’m actually beginning to ponder his VP pick. Right now, I’m thinking Nikki Haley.
Mike in NC
@kc: UKIP is a place for elderly, racist, entitled white assholes to congregate. Not at all to be confused with the Republican Party in the USofA.
jl
@efgoldman: I thought Bush II, like John Adams, was declared to be No True Conservative.
I notice not much pushback from either. Bush II probably doesn’t care, and John Adams would be likely to rise from the grave and haunt them only if they did claim him.
Anne Laurie
@Hildebrand:
Jeb is the Establishment, Wall Street, ‘big dollar’ candidate; Scott Walker is the insurgent, Koch-funded, extraction&megaretail ‘big dollar’ candidate.
Until very recently, I thought it would come down to the eventual winning Big Dollar candidate versus the “traditionalist”, socially conservative, Main-Street-not-Wall-Street candidate (probably Sanctorum). But Walker’s working hard to win over the hardcore Talibangelicals & blue-collar spite voters — he may actually be able to suck up the Iowas caucusers & Southern revanchists before Santorum can remind them It’s His Turn. Points to the Koch brothers marketing team — unfortunately.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: @SiubhanDuinne: I just can’t see Walker getting the nom. Maybe it is just refusal to recognize it, but I just can’t see it.
danielx
@Morzer:
Um…you may not have noticed, but most CPAC attendees and for that matter a great many law enforcement officers generally do regard peaceful American citizens exercising their first amendment rights as anti-American at best and terrorsymps at worst. Unless it’s Cliven Bundy exercising first amendment rights in concert with second amendment rights; they’re totally down with that.
David Koch
@muddy: He could be the next James Bond with that dreamy bald spot
David Koch
Canadian immigrant David Frum is on MSNBC furious over the President’s stand on Latino immigrants.
Anne Laurie
@kc: That’s why I gave you the Telegraph (aka ‘Tory-graph’ link), sweetie. Broaden your horizons, this is a full-service blog.
wasabi gasp
Wanna see Walker put on a helmet and ride around in a tank.
Gus
Who’s doing the best coverage of CPAC this year? In past years, I’ve enjoyed Weigel’s coverage. It’s a target rich environment, but I haven’t yet found the best coverage.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, I hope you’re right — I fear he would be more electable in the general than Jeb(!), although it’s still a long way off and anything can (and surly will) happen between now and the 2016 campaign.
Edit: I meant (and thought I typed) “surely” but it’s such a nice typo I decided to leave it.
Mike in NC
@efgoldman: Got food poisoning at the salad bar/taco bar at the Wendy’s in Newport, RI years ago. I complained and got some free coupons for my trouble.
Morzer
@SiubhanDuinne:
I don’t think Tricky Nikki adds much to the ticket and her record probably won’t withstand much analysis. I wouldn’t be completely surprised to see Brian Sandoval or Susana Martinez as the VP pick, although Martinez’ star has dimmed of late. Sandoval would make things more interesting in the West. What I don’t know is whether Sandoval would want the job.
Mike in NC
@Gus: Sadly, Andrew Sullivan has gone Galt and is no longer live-blogging this sort of filth.
danielx
@Morzer:
True dat. And that right there says a great deal about the mental capacity and state of the Republican base; anybody who can drool over Scott Walker for any reason whatsoever is borderline at best. But they have so many wonderful potential candidates from which to choose! How to make a decision? I mean, John Bolton, AKA The Moustache of Misanthropy? He’s considered totally dreamy in some circles, so I’ve heard.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, there’s always time for Scott Brown to declare that the entire nation (EXCEPT MASSACHUSETTS AND NEW HAMPSHIRE – THOSE UNGRATEFUL WHORE STATES!) is his latest home and birthplace…..
Morzer
@danielx:
All the base wants is a Depend-able candidate who will Pamper their um… baser… feelings.
Mike in NC
@Omnes Omnibus: Last time around it was Rmoney and Koch-selected Paul Ryan. Up next in 2016 I’m comfortable seeing JEB and Koch-selected Scott Walker. Easily appeals to 47% of the voters who’d bother to show up.
Morzer
@efgoldman:
I’d be astounded to see him pick Baby Doc or Cotton, while Joni Ernst would be an act of blazing lunacy, redeemed only by the fantasy of winning Iowa. Still, we might get lucky and see the obvious derangement dialed up beyond 11.
danielx
@Morzer:
All the base wants is a Depend-able candidate who will Pamper their um… baser… feelings.
Ewwww. Considering that those baser feelings are being given full reign in DC at the moment, that gives rise to a lot of images I’d just as soon forget, quickly. Does make me wonder if David Vitter is attending CPAC….
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: I am probably too close and have too many memories of being in the streets and the Capitol to judge him objectively. I’ll just run with emotion on this one.
Mike in NC
@SiubhanDuinne: Most of the people in SC who voted for her thought she was maybe a Cherokee. National media might be more willing to dig deeper. Big maybe…
SiubhanDuinne
@Mike in NC:
I always love it when someone has a shitty experience with a product or service and the corporate response is always “Here, have MOAR!!”
SiubhanDuinne
@Morzer:
Martinez is a thought. I think almost certainly the GOP will go with a woman VP candidate if they possibly can, especially (assuming) Hillary is the Dem nominee. Who else is there on the Republicans’ Pink Bench?
Gus
@Mike in NC: Ha! I’m talking about someone who will put on the pith helmet and describe the rituals of the exotic tribe we call wing nuts in a way that translates to a normal human being.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Can’t imagine a nominee from Wisconsin would pick a running mate from Iowa. Geographical balance, my man!
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Opposite sides of the Mississippi. That’s a form of geographical balance.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
To quote Dorothy Parker on the death of Calvin Coolidge, “How could they tell?”
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well okay, if you’re going to get picky.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: I am, damn it.
Felixmoronia
@divF:
what Nash wasn’t aware of at the time was a Bronx/Brooklyn term for a certain type of fire.
Soprano2
@Mandalay: Bizzare is exactly the reaction I had. I think it could have been an accident, nothing points to suicide.
I met Tony Messenger once, he was the editorial page editor of the Springfield MO paper before he went to St. Louis. He had some libertarian leanings but was a pretty straight shooter for the most part. If he says Hancock was spreading rumors that Schweicht was Jewish it’s probably true. The primary battle between him and Hannaway would have been one for the ages. Now Hannaway will probably run unopposed.
trollhattan
@efgoldman:
My fear regarding Walker is his packagability as a Standard-Issue Republican Presidential Candidate. He checks all their boxes, except the “Has Magical Reagan Powers” box. Nobody else does, either.
So close enough presuming everyone else in the clown car implodes on schedule.
Combine that with the fact he’s far more sociopathic than Dubya and he’s someone to keep an eye on, at least up to such time he’s no longer in queue to be the last man standing.
Tree With Water
Big, bad Scott Walker my ass.
My aunt was an incredible person. Among other things, she shipped out of San Francisco as a merchant marine before (and I believe during) WW2. Housing in the city was tight at the time, and during one such voyage she sub-let her North Beach apartment as a favor to a guy she knew. When she got back the guy refused to vacate, informing her it was his apartment from then on. My aunt didn’t panic, however, because she was dear friends with one of Harry Bridges bodyguards. Family lore has it the guy vacated the apartment in under three minutes after being apprised that his ultimatum had been rejected as unacceptable.
Walker would “break out in assholes and shit himself to death”* if he ever ran into a union member that likewise meant business, instead of this fantasy army of bloodthirsty pinkos he’s conjured out of thin air and is always going on about.
Off topic, but the wind is blowing from the south tonight in Sonoma county, which is darn unusual.
*(tip of the hat to Alexander Haig)
Omnes Omnibus
@trollhattan: One of the things that I doubt is that Walker can stand up to the kind of oppo research that Jeb, Hillary, or [generic Dem] could bring to bear.
richard mayhew
@efgoldman: And more importantly, none of his wins were with Presidential turn-out… Republican wave year, off-calendar special election, Republican wave year. Sure, it is, from his point of view, better to win than lose, but they are slightly different beasts.
Mike in NC
@trollhattan: Fucking Walker is only 47 years old, so the Village media will be drooling over him for at least the next 20 years.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike in NC: Not if he crashes and burns…
ETA: Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease…
Gin & Tonic
@Mike in NC: There are so many great places to eat in Newport. You deserve food poisoning for going to Wendy’s.
Linnaeus
I realize that this is not trenchant political analysis, but:
Fuck Scott Walker. Fuck. Him.
I can’t think of any American politician I despise more than him right now.
Omnes Omnibus
@Linnaeus: That’s basically my position on this.
Mike J
@efgoldman:
I used to work in the combat zone, when it was still called the combat zone, and would often walk over to downtown crossing for lunch. I think I may have been there.
joel hanes
@Linnaeus:
I have felt the same way ever since reading, in the wake of his first election to Governor, about the strong-arm tactics that Walker’s shock troops used to override the objections and attempted parliamentary moves of the Democratic opposition in the WI legislature: overt, gleeful, brutal, in-your-face suck-it-libtard flouting of the rules of legislative procedure, applicable laws, and established norms of behavior. And the immediate cronyism. And the dishonesty of his Administration’s public statements about those who opposed him. And the bullshit lie about millions of dollars of damage to the Statehouse (there was almost none).
He seems to draw almost all his political strength from the nihilistic joy that his supporters experience when some liberal accomplishment is destroyed. That is to say, he’s powered almost completely by Cleek’s Law.
One wonders how Ann Althouse feels about her hero of those days, now that he’s smashing the budget of the formerly-first-rate university that unaccountably employs her — but one doesn’t wonder enough about that to actually go to her blog.
GxB
Walker’s a great sockuppet. Too stupid to improvise, but just smart enough (for lack of a better term) to realize he’s in over his head pretty much all of the time and stay on script. I can see him going far in the clown car. He stuck it to them snooty libs three times now in a “blue” state and that will attract the deranged in the primary. He’s bland enough to not scare off the fence sitters in a national, and obviously he’s got the Kochbucks sewn up. If he’s got a Rovian team to handle the spin and they’re really on top of their game, this may be their pony this time around. Where he’s lacking is he’s definitely got a charisma problem. He doesn’t seem to have that “have a beer with” je ne sais quoi and that’s going to be a huge hurdle
We’ve already seen intelligence, qualifications, education, past behavior, and policy can be fudged sufficiently to fool roughly half the electorate, the base is around 45%+ pretty consistently, so the way i see it, we mock the opposition at our own peril. Any repuke nom is going to be savaged mercilessly from our vantage point and with good reason. But there are so many dunderheads out there that buy into this “both sides suck equally – lets vote the other way this time” tripe, and probably just as many who suffer from learned helplessness over the whole situation. Finally, Hillary (or whoever) is no BHO on the campaign trail nor as inspirational as a leader, so it’s going to be white knuckle time come Fall ’16.
Kropadope
@Morzer:
Like you could stop them.
Tree With Water
“Fox News host Bill O’Reilly on Wednesday explained that he previously described seeing nuns “get gunned down” in the 1980s in El Salvador because he had seen photographs of such incidents”.
Well then, shit, I waded across the lagoon at Tarawa with the 2nd Marines because I’ve seen video of that terrible crossing. It must have been pretty traumatic, too, because I’ve blocked all memory of having been there. That must be what O’Reilly is talking about.
Morzer
@Kropadope:
I just want to shrink the GOP base to the point where I can drag it into the bathtub and drown it in Rush Limbaugh’s final drug-induced vomit.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: I suggest the wearing of rubber gloves.
Morzer
@Tree With Water:
Bill O’Reilly will now explain that when he claimed to have been Tolstoy’s ghost-writer he meant that he had seen a copy of War and Peace in the original English.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
Normally for that sort of work I’d expect double pay and a parade down Broadway, but this is one job I’ll do gratis and gladly pro bono publico.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: Think of your karma.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
I thought of my karma
And donned my arma
To hunt the llama…
GregB
@SiubhanDuinne:
Martinez, Hailey, Fallin, Fiorina, Ayotte.
I cannot see Condi Rice wanting to expose herself to the scrutiny of a campaign.
She is still bucking to head the NFL.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: The white or the black? My question misses something of Stendhal and for that I apologize.
ruemara
I can’t even work up snark. The day went too well. I went to a chiropractor and for the first time in nearly 2 months, I can move my head without pain (or much pain) and so many little spinal and neck issues are gone. Best I’ve felt in a long time. I found an air bed, so I will finally have a more bed-like thing to sleep in and I found workout shoes.The best day ever. YOu never know how much pain you’re in until you stop being in pain. It cost so much but it was worth it. The clowns at CPAC simply can’t harsh my buzz with their existence.
Morzer
@GregB:
I should have remembered Fallin, but she’s probably the least obtrusive of the corrupt bigots, grifters and stumpdumbs on the list.
By the way, IIRC, Martinez has been tarnished by association with all sorts of cons and schemes and corruptions run by her partners in crime in the New Mexico GOP.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
You are clearly a very well red Stendhalian, which puts your credit firmly in the black with me.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: Perhaps not red, but definitely pinkish.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
Hmmm The Pink and the Dark Grey. Doesn’t quite work for the novel, does it? Mind you, it might sell as Gay Nazi Dinosaur Porn or whatever it is they read in Brownbackistan these days.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: Oh dear, literature? One thought you were talking about complexion. My bad.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@ruemara:
Did you see the commenter offering you air mattress space for ComiCon? She was in a couple of the morning threads looking for you.
Morzer
@Omnes Omnibus:
De rien, mon vieux, de rien.
ranchandsyrup
Today I learned on FB that it didn’t matter that there were no WMDs because Saddam, himself, was a WMD.
NotMax
@raven
Occam’s Razor says the filters and the stack of the exhaust hood over the grill and/or the fryer had not been cleaned since forever.
Kay
@joel hanes:
She’s sneering at the protestors.
I hope she likes her new career as an instructor in the workforce preparedness section. Governor Walker is coming for university people next.
Probably wasn’t smart to cheer him on when he was going after 3rd grade teachers, but she didn’t see any possible connection with those sorts of people. Now she can be in the club!
I can’t wait to find out if he determines she “adds value” to the student-product.
ruemara
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): No I didn’t! Really? Oh my. I better look for things. Did I say it was the best day ever?
Kay
@joel hanes:
Here’s a Republican in Wisconsin who figured it out:
He listened to Walker attack public school teachers for 4 years and never once thought “hey! I think I’m a…. teacher. He might go after me next!”
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@ruemara:
It’s in the O’Reilly thread — Glidwrith made the offer and WaterGirl emailed you about it.
NotMax
@MorzerOne grandmother once owned an Oldsmobile Holiday (’56 or ’57, IIRC) which sported a two-tone pink and gray paint job.
Closest pic I could find quickly is different in being a 2-door in pink and white.
David Koch
David Koch
David Koch
Sarah Palin’s classy, totally appropriate dress at CPAC
Morzer
@David Koch:
That red screen with the CPAC logo looks like something that would have delighted Mao and Stalin with its tasteful, understated stylings.
Anne Laurie
@SiubhanDuinne:
If the WSJ‘s coverage of CPAC is anything to go by, Carli Fiorina is auditioning hard for Palin, mk. 2. “Let me be your anti-Hillary, ReThugs! I can say all the nasty sexist things you don’t want to get caught repeating! And I look good in Naughty Monkey pumps, too!”
Morzer
@Anne Laurie:
A demon attack sheep seems as good a representative of the modern GOP as any.
cckids
@Morzer:
Well, Sandoval has said, repeatedly, that he doesn’t want it. Of course, that could change, but . . . he seems serious about it.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Morzer: Those red eyes on them demon sheep are SEXY!
Morzer
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Why you smooth-talkin’ old devil, you!
Origuy
@Morzer: Well, it is the Year of the Sheep.
Morzer
@Origuy:
Should be Anne Laurie’s year then, since she’s from Baa-ston!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Morzer: I blame the Llamas, they have red eyes. Oh, and Obama, of course.
Kathleen
@Woodrowfan: And uniforms. Matching uniforms.
Kathleen
@Citizen Alan: The blonde – er – white llama did.
another Holocene human
@efgoldman: rmoney = weak government state
Mass has had some real doozies–Cellucci? Swift? Romney did try to do that Godzilla thing. Rah rah me OWN executive agencies. Repaint those trash cans! Leadership!
another Holocene human
@David Koch: 1% er … or nobody of importance
BillinGlendaleCA
Mika’s lost it. I guess she hadn’t seen Boner’s kisses.
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: What a douche.
raven
And this bullshit Joe keeps pushing about “jobs programs” and ISIS is really fucking stupid.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Joe’s found a bone and won’t let go.
raven
And, as usual, Richard Engel knows what the fuck is really happening.
Peale
@Jay C: who lost Iran? I’m sure we’ll hear more about how Hillary blinked on that important question as we approach the election time. I mean real men rush in where fools dare not enter.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Peale:
I’m sure that Bibi will tell us on Tuesday.
Sherparick
@scav: To be crushed. And for being a champion of their resentments and hatreds, and saving them $50.00 a year on their tax bill, he is loved in the suburbs and rural areas of Wisconsin.
SRW1
Duncan will probably have to rethink this sentiment after Farage’s speech at CPAC: An audience of twelce (12!) in a ballroom that accommodates 5,000.
Bwaaaaah, Nigel. Smashing success!
Sherparick
In their continuing argument with the Obama of their dreams, not the real President, Joe, Walker, Christie, kind of ignore the fact that whether one agrees with it or not (and many on this blog certainly do not agree with the military campaigns), the President has been bombing/droning the hell out of ISIS, the Taliban, Al Qaeda in Yemen, whatever the loonies are called in Somalia, etc. But apparently the President does not approach the world with appropriate sneer of contempt that all except white Brits (CPAC’s shout out to the UKIP is so appropriate) should receive from an American “leader.”
GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)
@efgoldman:
Both houses of the WI leg. are republican controlled, and a majority of WI’s congressional delgation are republicans. Wisconsin is a purple state. It is only blue in presidential politics.
GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)
@Morzer:
Recent poll shows W. witha 74% approval rating among Republicans. Disapproval rating?
boatboy_srq
@Hal: The problem with the South is modern HVAC. If you live an air-conditioned life (A/C home to A/C car to A/C office to A/C restaurant to A/C shopping etc etc) then heat doesn’t register on your consciousness: it’s all hot, but you’re not in it enough to notice, and the times you are you expect something like it. Cold, on the other hand, registers higher: your heat is running more, your windows are closed, and you need heavier clothing when you’re outside. Snow, in addition, is visible and tangible proof of cold weather, so it hits multiple senses. Add to that the cheap utility season is now a lot more expensive; Southern homes may not have the same heating efficiency as Northern ones because they have needed so little of it, and because home insulation is one of those Northern treehugger things nobody thought to install (the house I’m in, for example, was built in the 90s and had single-pane sash windows until last year – and the selling feature of the new windows wasn’t keeping heat in but keeping heat out). Until the South experiences Sahara-grade heat waves, cold will register much higher on the Southern consciousness than heat.
Bill
@Tom Q: This.
Plus Scooter has problems on the home front. His base – which in no small part elected him on promises to get the state budget in order – is none to happy with the $2 billion budget deficit his tax cuts have left us with. His recent proposals to slash the UW budget by $300, million while simultaneously committing $250 million to a new basketball arena for the Bucks have even Republicans in the legislature upset.
He will be the right’s darling for a few debates (like Newt, Perry and Cain last time), and then the “sensible” people from Wall Street will make sure Jeb gets the nomination. (Like Mitt)
Scooter’s 15 minutes are almost up.
The Moar You Know
@Soprano2: He called the cops from his own bathrooom, made them bring his sister to the house, yelled at her through the bathroom door to “take care of the kids” and then shot himself in the head with the gun he always carried on his ankle.
You can debate the cause all you like but he killed himself.