I think I just had as close to an emotional breakdown as is possible. My pc is dying, so yesterday I replaced the power supply in an attempt to fix it, and while the power supply was bad, it appears the mobo is dying as it will not recognize all my memory, so I am frantically copying files to my mac. While doing this, there are five dogs in my office terrorizing me. Lovey and Thurston have attacked every cable, and are generally just being hyper nuisances, nipping at my heels, riling up the other dogs, and just creating a general environment of mania. I could feel my blood pressure rising as every time I reached for something, Lovey grabbed it and ran down the hallway with it, and then I chased after her and stepped in a pile of dog poo and just screamed “SHAWN I NEED YOUR FUCKING HELP.”
I think this is what it was like when mom had finally had enough with unruly kids and broke out the wooden spoon. I remember one time when I was 13 or so and she went to crack me with the spoon and it cracked in half on my back and we both just got hysterical.
My favorite story of driving my mother insane is one day in my late teens I had just been needling her and needling her and she finally was driven to the brink of madness and yelled at me, and this happened:
Mom: “You know what I think of you? You know what I think of you? There! “OJ!” and then gave me the middle finger.
Me: “What the hell does OJ have to do with anything?”
Mom: “Obscene Gesture!”
Me: “Gesture isn’t spelled with a J, mom.”
That’s when we all got hysterical again, and to this day, OJ means obscene gesture in the Cole household. It’s particularly funny because my mother has a PhD in English and would never misspell gesture.
Baud
Ahem.
smintheus
Needling parents?! Never happened in our house; dad was a Marine, former drill instructor. Wasn’t even all that much back talk.
smintheus
Speaking of layin’ down the law, a Kuwaiti paper is reporting that Obama learned Bibi was planning an airstrike on Iran and told him he’d shoot their planes down if they tried. *If* true, then good for the Prez. A President McCain (yikes) would’ve asked how many of our nukes Bibi would like to borrow.
Tokyokie
And along those same lines, I worked one summer with a guy whose nickname was “MJ,” for “mental jiant.” And it was long before anybody had heard of the basketball player.
KG
in my family, the middle finger is as much a symbol of endearment as it is an obscene gesture. I’ve joked before that I was going to have a family crest made up that was just a hand flipping the bird.
max
so I am frantically copying files to my mac
Take the HD out? Seems like that would be a lot simpler.
I think I just had as close to an emotional breakdown as is possible.
‘Lost your composure’
max
[‘It sounds better and it’s more accurate.’]
schrodinger's cat
Your poor mother. The only time my mother hit me and my brother, was once when we both got into a fight and spilled a pot of shrimp she had made for company that was coming that evening. Boy was she mad.
Betty Cracker
My husband’s mother once broke a wooden spoon on him. It’s especially funny if you know her — she’s tiny and the sweetest thing on earth; I’ve never heard her say a cross word to anyone in 20+ years. But teenagers, as I now know first hand, excel at inspiring rage.
wasabi gasp
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/dr/hln/www/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/textarticle_640/2012/09/12/PS_0.jpg
WaterGirl
I recall being 13 and having a bunch of boys over at my house. My mom got mad at me for something and said “I’ll pull your pants down and spank you in front of everyone”.
Taunting my mother was not something you would ever do unless you were out of your mind. When they talk about some percentage of women who experience some form of psychosis when they are going through menopause, I’m pretty sure my mom’s picture was next to that in the dictionary.
You got damn lucky in the mom department, Cole.
Mike J
How much of your ram is the mobo not seeing? If the bios got reset (say through loss of power) the memory config may have autodetected into gang mode. If you’re seeing half as much ram as you should, that could be the problem. (This happened to me over xmas.)
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Betty Cracker:
Parents of teenagers tend to forget that said teenagers have known them just as long as they’ve known the teenagers, so the teen knows exactly what buttons to push to get the parent’s goat. It does eventually pass.
srv
If all your stuff was in a cloud, you wouldn’t need all those cables.
Frankensteinbeck
I went through this last year, and I have some BAD news for you, John. When a power supply dies, the odds it has damaged every other piece of equipment in your computer are high. Like, ‘more than 50%’ high. A cacade of everything dying one by one is a possibility you need to be prepared for. If the motherboard got short outs it can damage new parts and the new power supply, so get warranties! This was an expensive and frustrating nightmare when I went through it.
Suzanne
Hahaha, I have days like this. A few weeks ago, I stepped on a THIRD pin that had been left on the floor. Me stepping on two pins and having to pull them out of my feet was not enough to get my family to NOT LEAVE PINS ON THE FLOOR. I completely lost my shit.
But then they do or say endearing, sweet things and I wrap me around their fingers again. They know what sells.
Last night, Spawn the Younger, who is four, saw that I had a cut on my finger. She got really concerned, got me a bandaid, and came over and kissed it all better, then gave me a big hug. Dawwwwwwww.
Bobby B.
@Betty Cracker: I’m also a Child of the Wooden Spoon. But this was back when we read books if the TV was busted,REAL books on genuine papyrus.
Gene108
In future, maybe the PC should be kept in a room with a door. That way the door can be shut to keep out creatures who lack opposable thumbs.
Oh well, you are a better man than me today. I’ve been in bed / procrastinating on cleaning and cooking for most of the day.
trollhattan
@Mike J:
This is 70% gibberish to my tiny brain but the image of Shark and Jet DIMMs having a knife fight inside Cole’s PC case just made my Sunday.
FlyingToaster
@Bobby B.:
Do comic books count? Because that is what WarriorGirl does whenever she loses her TV and iPad privileges.
Actually, now that we got some shelves up in her room (Yay Me!), she’s been going and re-reading all of her old books. She’s working her way back through Virgina Lee Burton now.
Josie
My worst meltdown as the parent of a teenager was when I was trying to help my youngest son with Spanish, which he was flunking. When I looked up to show him the flash cards we had made, he was making silly faces at me. Somehow, a hand, which I didn’t recognize as mine, reached out and slapped him across the face. He and I were equally surprised. My oldest son and his girl friend were upstairs and heard it happen. They sneaked out the upstairs door and left so as not to be next in the line of fire.
He did manage to barely pass Spanish and now, as a young adult, is teaching himself Korean with the help of the internet. The irony of a kid having trouble with Spanish and then learning Korean all on his own either speaks to his disdain for school when he was younger or his strong desire to go to Korea and work in the music business there. Or both.
trollhattan
@Bobby B.:
Having grown up in the “corporal punishment is the norm” era my blood really boiled at the recent discussion of setting laws protecting parents’ “right” to keep doing it. It wouldn’t surprise me if dad didn’t have a bit of WWII PTSD (along with a few other neighborhood dads) because when he was doling it out there were occasions when it seemed beyond his ability to control himself.
The line between respect and fear should always be foremost in a parent’s mind.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Gene108:
I should be doing laundry, but instead I’m watching “The Music Man” on TCM.
Neddy Merrill
OJ here – http://ionen.deviantart.com/art/The-Fifty-Sixth-Jester-86850062
Bobby B.
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): YA GOTTA KNOW THE TERRITORY!
danielx
@Betty Cracker:
Ha…the only time I can recall getting really, truly whupped was when I broke the neighborhood rules, which were unwritten but well known. They said no thrown objects which could really hurt someone, and no damaging anybody else’s stuff that their parents had bought for them. Thrown objects: snowballs, tomatoes, rotten tomatoes, all okay. Rocks, snowballs with rocks in them, mudballs with sticks stuck in them (we were an inventive lot) – nope, uh uh, against the rules. So one day some kid pisses me off to the max and I hit him in the head with a rock (seven stitches required as I recall), laid him out and then jumped up and down on the spokes of his bike and went home feeling just – just plain satisfied. Time I got home I was wondering if maybe I’d carried things a trifle far…I get home and mom is on the phone and sounding mad, so I head for my room. Which was, unfortunately, in a part of the house with no exit except windows, which had screens in them. I heard the phone slam down and about two seconds later mom yells all three of my names, first middle last, which invariably means you’re up shit creek with nary a paddle in sight. I turn around and here comes mom with my dad’s fraternity paddle, and no route handy…she wailed on my butt with a passion, I didn’t sit down or lie on my back for a couple of days. She felt terrible about it afterwards, but mar and par did have to pay for the kid’s doctor bill and a new bike. I felt worse about it, but I couldn’t bitch – I’d not only asked for it but practically begged for it. Talk about your deterrents to bad behavior…
WaterGirl
I mentioned earlier today that when my little pup goes out into our 10 inches of snow today he comes in so covered with balls of snow that I have to run him under hot water to melt the balls of snow.
He just came in for the 4th time today and this time I tried to get some pics. Keep in mind that he is a white dog covered with white snow, so it’s hard to see, but this time he was so balled up in snow on his underside that he literally was unable to walk through the door. He weighs 10 pounds.
Henry covered in snow balls.
Full metal Wingnut
@smintheus: You mean Johnny Ejectomatic.
FlyingToaster
Annnnnd…. the snow has begun.
It’s Fimbulwinter in Boston.
p.a.
When I was 13 I came in at 3am (“but it’s summer!“) and my mother hit me with a switch (one of those cheap skinny dowels they used to staple small American flags to) from the front door to my bedroom, me backing up all the way with my arms over my face. I was shocked the first few swats, but it didn’t really hurt, and by the time I was at my door I was giggling. It did not improve her mood.
Can’t remember my father ever hitting me. Think he was scared if he started he wouldn’t be able to stop.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Bobby B.:
This song is called “Shipoopi.” That’s the actual title.
The 50s were weird.
Susan
My Slovenian grandpa had 14 grandchildren. When we were all together, he would often shake his head and say, “Oi,Yoi, Yoi!” .
When we got really rowdy and his “Yoi Yois” fell on deaf ears, he’d wave Grandma’s polenta stick at us.
That polenta stick packed a wallop; when it came out of the drawer, we scattered!
Gene108
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini):
I’m watching a “Love it or List” marathon on HGTV.
So far “Love It” is winning the afternoon.
We also got some wintry mix, so I have a good reason not take the trash out, though not so much to not collect it into trash bags.
wasabi gasp
Running the risk of this projectile only making sense of me.
Iowa Old Lady
@Gene108: They almost always choose Love It.
Gene108
@Iowa Old Lady:
I remember a stretch, when they almost always chose “List It” a season or two ago.
Mike J
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): The “ya gotta know the territory” song is “Rock Island”, like the railroad the salesmen were on when they sang it.
Pogonip
Why is John always stepping in dog poop? I thought his dogs were housebroken? If it’s the puppies, they’re far too young to be running around loose. Sounds like he may be a bit overwhelmed here.
Baud
@Pogonip:
It’s not dog poop. He’s just trying to shield us from the ugly reality of West Virginia living.
JPL
John, If you don’t want to crate them, put them on a short leash. You can hold on to one of them and let Shawn watch the other.
@WaterGirl: Poor pup, but I admit, that made me laugh.
JPL
@FlyingToaster: Snow in Boston, oh no, it can’t be. I wouldn’t ride the train tomorrow, cuz people must be getting a tad testy.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
10 pounds with or without the snow?
geg6
Tell your mom it wasn’t so bad. My mom had six kids, four of them sarcastic, smart and independent girls. My grandfather came over one day with six ping pong paddles and proceeded to write each of our names on one and put them in the broom closet on nails, one for each paddle. Then he left, never saying a word. One of our favorite family stories, for real.
wrb
I didn’t mind the corporal punishment (I’d usually well earned it) but the inevitable
“This hurts me more than it does you”
pissed me off.
Bullshit
wasabi gasp
It’s complicated.
SiubhanDuinne
Dammit, CNN. “Democrat Senator Diane Feinsteen”?
bemused
@WaterGirl:
I love this and can relate but our dogs are Samoyeds, too big to rinse off in the sink. We have some great pictures of them with their back legs and feet coated in golf ball to baseballs size snow balls. The dogs have long hair between the toes so there were snowballs there too. They had a bit of trouble walking on tile floor when they came in.
Phylllis
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): Watching Robert Preston move….moves me.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@wasabi gasp: My mom loved hers – she wore them every time she could. Never threw them at us though. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
gogol's wife
@WaterGirl:
that’s impressive!
WaterGirl
@Baud: That was 10 without the snow, I’ll bet the snow added quite a bit.
WaterGirl
@JPL: I laughed, too, and then I realized that he could die out in the snow if he got stuck because of the snowballs – except for his eye and nose, it’s like white on white, and if he got stuck in deep enough snow, I wouldn’t be able to find him.
We just went out (again!) and this time I took him on the leash for a quick pee and then back in.
@bemused: I never would have gotten a small dog on purpose, but it does have it’s advantages!
bemused
@WaterGirl:
He is adorable, lucky you.
Tommy
Stupid question.
How do you get your passport upgraded?
WaterGirl
@bemused: Yep, he was my surprise gift from the universe. Quite an unexpected blessing.
LT
fuck that’s funny
mdblanche
That serenity now thing doesn’t work.
@FlyingToaster:
In other words, once spring finally comes we can look forward to The Meteor. Serenity now.
Jay C
@Tommy:
“Upgraded” to what?
AFAIK, there is only one type of (presumably US) passport for the most of us – diplomatic/official types aside; and if you’re one of the latter, this IS a stupid question….
(more serious answer: check out the State Department website?)
RSA
This entire post is LOL funny.
Shana
@Mike J: And, my home town. Pleasant enough to grow up in but I got out as soon as I could and rarely went back.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Jay C:
Maybe he means “renewed”?
Tommy
Where I can travel outside of the US. Not a spy :). I just have a few dollars burning my pocket and looking to get out of the US. Pretty much think I am going to Scotland. Kind of a thing, just going. If any of the darn travel agents I called had a clue they could make a buck off of me. My passport is ages old and need to know what it takes to be updated. What I was asking I guess. I want to get out of here tomorrow. Not a month from now. Does my passport still work?
wasabi gasp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qbW61VY9eg
Matt McIrvin
@FlyingToaster: Only a few inches, though, and it’s supposed to get up to 35 and sunny tomorrow rather than the deep freeze we’ve usually gotten before, so it ought to be less trouble than the snowfalls we’ve had so far. Anyone who still has ice dams is probably going to get a lot of roof leaks, though.
There’s supposed to be some more snow turning into freezing rain around midweek, but then it actually gets up around 40 degrees for a little while.
Baud
@Tommy:
Your passport has an expiration date. If it’s not expired, the only thing stopping you is the visa requirement in the country you want to go to.
ETA: if it is expired, see here:
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/renew.html
SiubhanDuinne
@Tommy:
@Jay C:
Unless you’re talking about expedited processing and delivery. It costs a chunk more but if your travel dates are coming up soon, it’s probably worth paying the extra fees. As Jay C said, the DoS website should have specifics.
SiubhanDuinne
@Tommy:
If your passport has expired, you will need a new one. Get expedited processing — you won’t be able to leave tomorrow, but you might be able to in a week or so. Check the date. Often, even if it is technically NOT yet expired, some countries won’t admit you and/or some airlines won’t allow you to board if the expiration date is within a few months.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I don’t think the UK has a visa requirement.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Tommy: I read earlier about your tumble, yikes! If you need any pointers on Wink or Wemo, I have experience with both. Short answer; Wink is cheaper and can control more devices, but requires a bit more work.
ETA: Goes back to programming the Wink control web page.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Sounds right. But who knows where else Tommy wants to go?
ETA: anyone who says they are not a spy is probably a spy.
WaterGirl
Is anyone else watching The Slap? I just caught up on this week’s episode, and I am really liking the show. I especially like that it’s different from all the other shows on TV.
Tommy
@SiubhanDuinne: I am sure it is expried. Thanks for the help and/or input.
I don’t think many will watch this, but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj6ho1-G6tw
My family is from here and well to be honest if I could get a ticket tomorrow I’d be on a plane.
Schlemazel
I was a change of life baby & my folks had pretty much given up by the time I was a teen. That had its upside, few of the beatings my sibs endured, but also some downside. I was safe as long as the cops never brought me home & was smart enough not to get caught.
As for fingers: My one BIL was a bit of a troublemaker & a joker. He and I would secretly flip each other off behind my moms back all the time (assuming she never knew). When she in her 70’s the BIL was giving her a hard time about something, joking around. Mom, who wouldn’t have said “poop” even if she had a mouthful of it turned to BIL & said, “You know that thing you and Schlemazel always did? Well sam to you!” And gave him the finger. We laughed about that a lot.
raven
Minnie Minoso, the first black player for the Chicago White Sox, passed away Sunday morning. He was 90.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/405104/white-sox-great-minnie-minoso-passes-away
Mike in NC
We’ve been to several countries in Europe and the only one that required a visa was Russia. The travel agency handled all the paperwork. I believe when my wife went to India the year before she had to go online and do a fairly complicated visa application.
raven
@Tommy: We have three people from Scotland at the conference I am attending in Chattanooga. Top shelf folks.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I’m surprised. The premise looked dumb.
Renie
OT – Taking an American history class and into the Cold War. Interestingly today is the anniversary of the Castle Bravo bomb test that went wrong. If interested, here is more detail.
CastleBravo
Baud
@raven:
How’s the conference?
Ruckus
Only got paddled once, when I was 12. Mom was mad at something, thought I’d done something I hadn’t and told dad. His heart wasn’t in it but keeping the peace was. Now siblings doing stuff to each other that I got. Oldest sister stuck a fork in my arm because I wouldn’t get my elbows off the table. In retrospect she may have taken offense that when she first told me, I told her, fuck you, you aren’t mom.
Pogonip
@Baud: Those aren’t puppies, they’re poopies!
SiubhanDuinne
@Tommy:
I also have a lot of Scottish ancestry (my nym is actually a literal translation of my maiden name into Scots Gaelic with just a wee bit of wordplay tucked in), and I absolutely love visiting Scotland. Wherever you go, and whenever you leave, and however long you’re gone — I hope you’ll take a tablet or something where you can take some pictures and post updates to Balloon Juice. Please let us know your plans!
P.S. Tried to watch the video you posted but I seem to be in a place where downloading is cranky. I’ll try again in a while; otherwise, when I get home.
Arclite
@smintheus:
Borrowing implies he would have returned them.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
Saw that earlier. The entire Chicagoland area should be in mourning, and rightly so.
FlyingToaster
@Matt McIrvin: “Only a few inches” is famous last words, these days. At least in the Hub.
While our roof is nearly clear (and we got no leakage, despite the ice dam), I’m probably going to have to stay up til 2 to get the end of the driveway clear of the plow dam. Or get up at 6. There is NO chance school will be cancelled tomorrow, unless the storm drops a foot again :)
Arclite
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini):
They wanted to let it all hang out, but they were too uptight to know how.
Scott Alloway
@max: I agree here. Take the drive out and slap it into an external drive case. I have several cases for the smaller drives and two for SATA and/or ATA drives. Somewhere in that mess of a storage room are a couple SCSI enclosures. Your mac should read the drive.
Origuy
I’ve been to Scotland twice, but I don’t think I’d go this time of year. The weather won’t be any better than the US midwest. The UK is really far north and there aren’t many hours of daylight. That video shows Edinburgh in the summer when it’s wonderful. It would still be fun to go there, but I wouldn’t want to go to the islands or the Highlands in winter.
Thanks for reminding me; I need to renew my passport. It expired last week. I’m not planning to go anywhere soon, though. The problem with a new passport is that it’s blank; you don’t have the stamps that show you’re a traveler. My current one has the visa from Russia that takes up a whole page.
Some places won’t let you in if your passport expires in less than six months, so check ahead.
Tommy
@raven: Wonderful to hear. Wonderful! Of course I am an American. But my Scottish roots run deep. I have pipes and a kilt or two at my parents house. Just how we roll.
Arclite
@ John,
Post your hardware and your symptoms and we can try and trouble shoot it for you.
Also, get a case with removable dust covers on the intakes since you have pets. The hair will clog the cooling fans and it will overheat eventually and die. Lost my $400 8800 GTX that way only 2 years after I bought it. Your PC is pretty new IIRC, so I suspect this may be part of the problem.
This HAF 912 is a good one, and cheap.
I use a Silverstone Raven RV03, but I got it a few years ago, don’t know if they still sell them, and not sure if the RV05s still have dust covers or not.
Also, get magnetic dust filters for any intakes that aren’t already covered.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I’m kind of surprised, too. I almost didn’t record it in the first place. I take it you haven’t watched it?
opiejeanne
@Phylllis: he couldn’t dance at all. He faked it ok and was perfect for the part.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Haven’t seen it.
TriassicSands
John Cole —
@max:
Agreed.
For less that $20 John can get a hard drive docking station that accepts both 3.5″ (desktop) and 2.5″ (laptop) hard drives. He can then plug that into a new or different computer (USB cable) and transfer all his old files (assuming they haven’t been corrupted). The product I have is made by Pluggable — it works very well.
The other possibility would be to put the old hard drive in the new computer, as a second drive. If the drive is already old, I’d go with the docking station.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Well, it’s only 8 episodes, and the fourth will air this week. I think it’s a show you would want to see from the beginning, if you were going to watch it.
Something about it really grabs me, mostly because people really interest me, and this show is about the people rather than about “a plot”.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I’m not sure if I’d like it. I’m a plot guy.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I don’t think you would like it, then. Good call in skipping it.
If you’re a plot guy, does it make you crazy that so many of the plots for tv shows are lame?
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Sometimes. But if I’m watching TV, it’s usually because I’m looking for something mindless. Not Sunday news show mindless, but something that requires little of my attention.
opiejeanne
Heading to Maui. Our flight leaves in about two hours. We’ve never been to Hawaii, which is a little embarrassing.
Baud
@opiejeanne:
Have fun. Maui is wonderful.
JPL
@Tommy: I hope that you get it renewed. You might not be able to go tomorrow, but at least you will be prepared. Scotland would be a great place to visit.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Interesting. I got a new bicycle recently, and a training gizmo so I can ride it in the house, and I have noticed that only some TV shows are suitable for watching while doing that.
I definitely can’t watch anything with nuance while I’m riding the bike, or anything with serious character development. I can only watch the TV equivalent of a John Grisham novel.
shelley
I can only remember a couple of times of coporal punishment when I was little. Remember getting a couple of swats with my father’s belt for….something. And also got the ‘mouth rinsed with soap’ from my mother for….something. Can’t imagine which ‘bad’ word it was, cause it was all the way till High School before I was even saying ‘damn’ out loud.
And that was pretty much it. I think it was more upsetting for my parents than me.
seaboogie
@Pogonip: I remember visiting a local feed store for dog kibble and a lovely Hispanic gentleman asking what we would recommend getting for his new “poopy” which was a German Shepard
Pogonip
@seaboogie: “Well, sir, I’d recommend a shovel, he’s going to get pretty big..”
John did not give us a pupdate, should we give him 1/2 credit for a poopdate?
Kathleen
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): One of my all time favorites. It holds up so well. Did you see that Face In the Crowd is on next Saturday at 2? Can’t wait to see that again. What a great film.
Kathleen
@Phylllis: I cannot ever see anyone else in that role. He is perfect.
trollhattan
@opiejeanne:
The good news: the Maui Airport has chickens.
Enjoy, it’s a NICE place to spend some time. Presuming you’re doing the condo thing, first stop is the Costco by the airport–of course they’ll be closed by the time you arrive.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@Tommy:
If you want to be able to hop on a plane and go somewhere else as soon as you have your new passport, you need to check the list of visa waiver countries. Scotland in the winter may not be the best time to go, unless you haven’t had enough bitter cold this winter.
opiejeanne
@Baud: thanks. There a lot of babies on this flight and the ones near us are unhappy. Hopefully they will sleep most of the flight.
opiejeanne
@trollhattan: chickens!
Yes, we have a condo in Kaanapali for ten days. Tonight we have a hotel next to the airport, and tomorrow we will hit costco for a couple of big beach towels if the condo doesn’t have them.
opiejeanne
@Mnemosyne (iPad Mini): I’d guess the weather won’t improve much before May.
Mnemosyne (iPad Mini)
@opiejeanne:
We went to Kauai in November and they were SUPER excited to finally have a Costco. I swear that every hospitality person we encountered (rental car, condo, etc.) mentioned it to us. Hawaii is an expensive place to live, so I can see why they were so thrilled to have someplace they could save a little money other than Wal-Mart.
I think commenter NotMax lives on Maui. There’s someone else who lives on Oahu, but I can’t remember who it is.
Paul in KY
@WaterGirl: I listen to music, when riding stationary bike. Too tough to read or pay too much attention to something when trying to maintain the pace.