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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Wednesday Evening Open Thread: While You Were Distracted…

Wednesday Evening Open Thread: While You Were Distracted…

by Anne Laurie|  March 4, 20155:30 pm| 144 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Election 2016, Open Threads, Nobody could have predicted, Republican Crime Syndicate - aka the Bush Admin.

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jeb bushcorps own man ohman

(Jack Ohman via GoComics.com)
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Mattea Gold, at the Washington Post, on the legacy candidate who is “Awash in Cash“:

An unusual request has gone out to wealthy donors writing large checks to support former Florida governor Jeb Bush: Please don’t give more than $1 million right away.

The requested limit, confirmed by multiple people familiar with the amount, may mark the first time that a presidential hopeful has sought to hold off supporters from contributing too much money.

The move reflects concerns among Bush advisers that accepting massive sums from a handful of uber-rich supporters could fuel a perception that the former governor is in their debt. The effort is also driven by a desire to build as broad a pool of donors as possible among wealthier contributors…

Bush has yet to officially declare his candidacy, but he is already on track to raise tens of millions of dollars by the end of this month for two political action committees, both named Right to Rise, that were set up in January. His potential rivals have acknowledged that they have little hope of matching his current pace…

Bush is entering his third month of an intensive, cross-country fundraising tour that has included stops at lavish Manhattan apartments, premier Washington lobbying shops and luxury hotels in Florida…..

Look, parvenus, you can’t just buy a scion of the Bush Crime Clan. But if you are willing to be patient and stand by, his people will be happy to ensure that everyone has a chance to rent a chunk of Jeb. Be aware that seaons ticket holders receive seating preference over one-time buyers!

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Apart from acknowledging that There Is A Club, and We’re Not in It, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    askew

    March 4, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    So the Hillary guy at Media Matters threw the WH under the bus this afternoon and said of course the WH knew all about Hilary’s set-up and the State Dept walked back the statement that there was no classified info in private emails. This ought to be fun. Ugh.

    As for me, I am just praising the fact that I haven’t caught the stomach flu yet. My nephew who I babysat on Monday night upchucked all over his father in line to board an airplane last night and the whole family is down with the stomach flu. Yuck, nothing I hate more than throwing up.

  2. 2.

    Roger Moore

    March 4, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    The move reflects concerns among Bush advisers that accepting massive sums from a handful of uber-rich supporters could fuel a perception that the former governor is in their debt.

    I don’t know why anyone would get the impression that receiving millions of dollars from somebody would put you in their debt. Haven’t they heard the old saying that when you owe the bank $1 million, the bank owns you, but when you owe the bank $10 billion, you own the bank?

  3. 3.

    Corner Stone

    March 4, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    @askew:

    Yuck, nothing I hate more than throwing up Hills.

  4. 4.

    feebog

    March 4, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    Maybe Jeb! should just put himself up for sale on ebay. It would save a lot of time and effort on his part.

  5. 5.

    Corner Stone

    March 4, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    what’s on the agenda for the evening?

    Not really sure it’s on the agenda, per se. But whoever the hell greenlighted (lit?) the Cottonelle TP “Go Commando” commercials?
    That person needs a subpena to appear before Howdy Doody Gowdy.

  6. 6.

    Anne Laurie

    March 4, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    @Corner Stone: But to give credit where it’s due, that level of manic, artisanal bile can’t be easy to hand-craft day after week after month after year. This is why mere ‘bots will never replace the old-fashioned tinfoil-hatted paranoid in our political pantheon!

  7. 7.

    JPL

    March 4, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    @Corner Stone: So I googled it and said wtf. They probably paid big bucks for that ad. Maybe the ad company will volunteer to help Jeb, they have a talent for shit.

  8. 8.

    Calouste

    March 4, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    I think what pisses off Mitt Romney (and Ann probably even more so) the most about JEB! entering the race is not so much not having another run at the White House, but it being rubbed into their faces that they are parvenus compared to the Bush clan. I can imagine some of the Romney sons are being pushed really hard to start a political career and continue the dynasty.

  9. 9.

    Amir Khalid

    March 4, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    In the meantime, does anyone know how Jebbush is doing at raising money from the little peoples? I understand he needs to show a reasonably good donor count from the party base to demonstrate viability as a candidate.

  10. 10.

    Corner Stone

    March 4, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    I understand he needs to show a reasonably good donor count from the party base to demonstrate viability as a candidate.

    Why? And to whom?

  11. 11.

    Mike in NC

    March 4, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    When JEB announces, I want Babs and Dubya standing on either side of him.

  12. 12.

    Chris

    March 4, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    @Calouste:

    I think the simple fact that the Bushes are better at it than the Romneys is enough to piss them off. Even if Jeb fails miserably, they’ve already won three elections between the old man and the big brother. (Well, one election wasn’t entirely kosher, but you know what I mean. The result was the same).

    Also think Mitt (and Ann)’s problem is that they despised the fact that they actually had to do anything to get the job, instead of having it handed to them on a silver platter. Say what you want about George W. Bush, but I always got the sense that whatever else you could say about him, he did take to campaigning in a way that stiff-assed Mittens never did.

  13. 13.

    jl

    March 4, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    Unlimted (Laundered) Corporate Cash solves all problems, unless it is too blatant.

  14. 14.

    Anne Laurie

    March 4, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    @Amir Khalid: In my opinion, one reason the Koch brothers are pushing Scott Walker into the spotlight so quickly & so prominently is to advertise a dichotomy between the individually-courted high-dollar “Eastablishment” Jeb supporters and the folksy, down-to-earth ordinary Midwestern voters who want “one of their own” at the top of the Republican ticket. There’s been lots of media chatter asking why Walker wasn’t given more time to be prepped on foreign affairs, gotcha media, etcetcetc… and the only answer so far seems to be “they needed to get their brand (Walker) out there before all the good advertising slots were taken”. Lots of room for an anti-Bush-dynasty candidate, but too many other “minor” candidates (Santorum, Paul, Carson, Huckabee) poised to syphon off those votes, as well.

  15. 15.

    Calouste

    March 4, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Interesting bit there of course is that the Koch brothers are looking to have their fully-owned man Walker on the ticket rather than taking a slice in JEB! Makes you wonder what the Bush clan will do if JEB!wins the nomination despite the opposition of the Kochs. Or worse, what if he loses.

  16. 16.

    Tree With Water

    March 4, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    If a movie is ever made about Jeb! they’ve got to cast:

    Beau Bridges is Jeb!

    Christopher Plummer is The Patriarch

    Bette Midler is Barbara

    Nathan Lane is (who else?) GW

    Dick Cheney to be played by the rotting, disinterred corpse of Richard Nixon (fitted with robot-like controls; voice over- Kelsey Grammar)

    Kevin Bacon is Dapper Don Rumsfeld

    Strom Thurmond’s long lost daughter is Condoleeza Rice

  17. 17.

    mikej

    March 4, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    At Swedish. Enzymes look good, repeating at 5. I asked the doc about tia, he said no sign but ordered a head ct. They admitted dad mainly because they can’t figure out why his bp dropped so much (60/who knows).

  18. 18.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    Best news you’ll read today:

    Tracey Ullman is to return to the BBC with her own comedy series, some 30 years after she was a regular face on British TV. The actress, writer and singer, who has enjoyed decades of success in the US, said it was “a privilege” to be back.

    Her six-part series, The Tracey Ullman Show, is part of a raft of new comedy commissions announced by the BBC.

  19. 19.

    raven

    March 4, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    @trollhattan: GO HOME!!!

  20. 20.

    Tommy

    March 4, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    @trollhattan: There are a very few people I find LOL funny. Tracey Ullman is one of them. That she is getting a show, wonderful.

  21. 21.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 4, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    @Calouste: I can imagine some of the Romney sons imploding into flames at the affront. First the blah man was elected instead of their father, and now the pretender of a former President’s son is getting so much offered funding that he has to dial back the timing. The nerve!

    It would be a sight to see.

  22. 22.

    sacrablue

    March 4, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    @mikej: small aortic aneurysm?

  23. 23.

    Zinsky

    March 4, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man will be king. I have no idea what this means. However, I do wish someone would gouge out Jeb’s eyes.

  24. 24.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 4, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    Fuckers

    Eight Democrats voted with Republicans to override Obama: Sens. Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Mark Warner (Va.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Bob Casey Jr. (Pa.), Michael Bennet (Colo.), Tom Carper (Del.) and Jon Tester (Mont.).

  25. 25.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
    Unfortunately, I more imagine them blowing off steam by beating on the help for a bit.

  26. 26.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 4, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    @trollhattan: she did a right wing Southern woman who owed a little to Jane Curtain’s Audrey Pierce Dickman, and I think in turn Kathleen Parker stole her TeeVee persona from the Ullman character

  27. 27.

    mikej

    March 4, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    @sacrablue: sonogram peeps just left the room, they said they didn’t see anything. Suspicion now is new meds they put him on last week along with standing too fast.

  28. 28.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 4, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Not one single name on that list is a surprise.

  29. 29.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    March 4, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    First World problem of the day: IKEA is discontinuing the couch I had my eye on and sold out of my favorite color, so now I have to settle for my second choice color and scramble to buy it this weekend. Stupid Ikea.

  30. 30.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 4, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I thought a couple at least might be reluctant to go along with a veto override

  31. 31.

    JPL

    March 4, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    @mikej: That’s good news. I hope that is all it is.

  32. 32.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    March 4, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Ullman was culturally way ahead of the pack — remember Francesca, the teenager with two (gay) dads? The sketch where she got her first job at a Taco Bell-like fast food restaurant is still one of my all-time favorites.

  33. 33.

    WereBear

    March 4, 2015 at 7:03 pm

    From what I’ve seen, Jeb has negative charisma.

    Plus, I’m starting to think none of them are the smart brother.

  34. 34.

    Calouste

    March 4, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I wonder if whichever Romney son is going to be the heir apparent is going to the pretense of becoming governor or senator before running for president or whether he’ll just enter the presidential primaries without having held any elected position.

  35. 35.

    David Koch

    March 4, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    “Kill the Bill!”

    “Ten Reason to Kill the Bill”

  36. 36.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    @WereBear:
    Or they’re all “the smart brother” [shudder]

    Did Bar hit the sauce while preggers?

  37. 37.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    @Calouste:
    “Yes” He’ll be electable based solely on dental prowess. So dreeeamy.

  38. 38.

    mikej

    March 4, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    @JPL: The scary news, his room has a CRT based TV with an honest to god vhs hooked up. Videos in the room are Independence Day and Alan Jackson (who I’m assuming is a country singer) videos.

  39. 39.

    raven

    March 4, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Ever see her and Streep in “Plenty”? It’s a post WW2 drama with Streep as a former intelligence operative. It’s not a happy film but both of them are great.

  40. 40.

    JGabriel

    March 4, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    An unusual request has gone out to wealthy donors writing large checks to support former Florida governor Jeb Bush: Please don’t give more than $1 million right away.

    The GOP Presidential Campaigns: Where anyone giving less than $1 million is considered a small donor.

    Bush has yet to officially declare his candidacy, but he is already on track to raise tens of millions of dollars …

    So the GOP frontrunner has tens of donors?

  41. 41.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 7:13 pm

    @mikej:
    Blame Obama! I recall getting x-rayed multiple times at the same clinic a few years ago, to the point I spent a lot of time looking at the machine. Its operating system (such as it might have been) loaded via a pair of 5 1/4″ floppy drives. After a few visits I started pestering them about whether there was a newer machine I could be zapped with, presuming that any xray that old was probably way overpowered by today’s standards.

    I blame Obama.

    Great news about your dad, presuming the “it’s nothing” diagnosis is accurate.

  42. 42.

    raven

    March 4, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    Mark Lippert, the United States’ ambassador to South Korea, was slashed in the face with a razor during a lecture in a public forum early on Thursday morning, Reuters reported.

    The State department said the injuries did not appear to be life threatening. Pictures released on South Korean media showed Lippert bleeding and covering his face.

  43. 43.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 4, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    I normally don’t take orders from the Bush family, but in this case I will not be donating more than $1 million right away to Jeb!’s campaign. I assume this will grant me tremendous access and influence.

  44. 44.

    piratedan

    March 4, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    @Amir Khalid: #9 from my understanding of the Bush Family Political Cartel’s inner workings, we are ALL little people, doing the needful things that need doing in order to serve the family…..

  45. 45.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    March 4, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    Why is it that conservatives always seem to idolize 12 year old kids? This guy is their new hero. And, like most conservatives, he doesn’t understand what the hell the First Amendment is. “The First Amendment is very clear. We have a right to express our opinions regardless of who might disagree. And to silence that voice is a violation of that amendment,” he said to a Fox news affiliate. He’s pissed off because Facebook shut down his account when it learned that he was less than 13 years old. Seems this kid can’t tell the government of the United States from Facebook.

  46. 46.

    JGabriel

    March 4, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    In my opinion, one reason the Koch brothers are pushing Scott Walker into the spotlight so quickly & so prominently is to advertise a dichotomy between the individually-courted high-dollar “Eastablishment” Jeb supporters and the folksy, down-to-earth ordinary Midwestern voters who want “one of their own” at the top of the Republican ticket.

    Charles and David Koch both live in NYC.

    Of course, Hypocrisy is the GOP’s Christian name – so that’s not intended as a criticism against AL’s observation. I’m just providing extra information for reference.

  47. 47.

    Corner Stone

    March 4, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    But to give credit where it’s due, that level of manic, artisanal bile can’t be easy to hand-craft day after week after month after year.

    On the other hand, I see it more as completely programmed bile. It doesn’t really matter what the statement is, or the situation. It all comes down to tying it to HRC being the.worst.human.ever. And loudly shouting, “There are five lights!”

  48. 48.

    Calouste

    March 4, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Some would say that it is because 12 is about the mental age of a lot of conservatives.

  49. 49.

    Betty Cracker

    March 4, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    My evening went straight to hell in a hurry. I’m at my kid’s softball game, and I’m sitting in the top row of the bleachers. I managed to spill coffee all over my crotch when attempting to pry the lid off the cup, so it looks like I pissed myself.

    But no worries, I thought — it wasn’t all that hot, no one saw it happen, and I’ll have several interminable innings to dry. But for some reason at this game, they decided to make a big to-do about the national anthem, and of course I’m sitting right in front of the goddamn flag, which everyone had to stand up and face. So now all these folks think I’m incontinent.

    Also, when will this horrible trend with people yodeling every fucking word of the national anthem end? It sounds stupid.

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
    Dad better lock up the Holy Gunz the day the kid discovers he can’t enter a contract for six more years.

  51. 51.

    WereBear

    March 4, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    @Betty Cracker: There’s no good way to sing the national anthem.

  52. 52.

    Roger Moore

    March 4, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I thought a couple at least might be reluctant to go along with a veto override

    My guess is that Reid is whipping the veto override votes very carefully. He’s going to make sure there are enough people with safe seats to sustain the veto and then let others vote the way they think will help their reelection chances. Sustaining the veto is job #1, and the rest of it is electoral politics.

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    Funny (at least for us). Am presuming you’re not sporting mocha-colored trousers either. As to the anthem thing, it’s the nation’s enduring Whitney Houston hangover. Just nail the damn note already and move along.

  54. 54.

    danielx

    March 4, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    The move reflects concerns among Bush advisers that accepting massive sums from a handful of uber-rich supporters could fuel a perception that the former governor is in their debt. The effort is also driven by a desire to build as broad a pool of donors as possible among wealthier contributors…

    None of this, of course, “give(s) rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption”. It must be true because Justice Anthony Kennedy says so.

    Rumor has it Justice Kennedy also firmly believes the moon is made of extremely edible green cheese.

  55. 55.

    srv

    March 4, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    I’m wondering if the White House has enough closets for all the mailservers Hillary is going to need for her Presidency.

    At least we know the Whitewater closet is empty now.

  56. 56.

    Betty Cracker

    March 4, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    @WereBear: True. Our national anthem sucks. “Living in America” (James Brown) would be better.

    Also, if y’all see a FLORIDA WOMAN SHOVES STADIUM SEAT UP HECKLER’S ASS headline tomorrow, know that it was me. These are high school girls, motherfucker. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

  57. 57.

    Keith G

    March 4, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    @WereBear:

    There’s no good way to sing the national anthem.

    On the can while clutching a copy of Guns and Ammo.

  58. 58.

    GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)

    March 4, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    @askew:
    Team Clinton acting like shifty fuckwits? I am…unsurprised.

  59. 59.

    Roger Moore

    March 4, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    Why is it that conservatives always seem to idolize 12 year old kids?

    I think there are two things. One is that the kids are supposed to be guileless and too young to get interested in politics, so whatever comes out of their mouths has a truth and authenticity that adults can’t achieve. The other is that it’s proof that Republican ideas are so obvious that even a child can understand them. The refutation of both of these is left as an exercise for the listener.

  60. 60.

    srv

    March 4, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @Roger Moore: Wish I had a link for the WND kid who went off the truth reservation once he hit 16 or so. The wingnutsphere was not happy.

  61. 61.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @WereBear: @Betty Cracker:

    If you suddenly find you’re Renée Fleming then you’re welcome to sing the anthem. Otherwise, become Ray Charles and sing America the Beautiful.

  62. 62.

    GHayduke (formerly lojasmo)

    March 4, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    GO TEAM SHIFTY FUCKWIT!

  63. 63.

    Roger Moore

    March 4, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    @WereBear:

    There’s no good way to sing the national anthem.

    I think you’re supposed to sing it as a group, so no one individual’s inability to sing it well stands out. The national anthem should be a participatory, not spectator, event. It’s much more patriotic to sing along than to listen to somebody else do it.

  64. 64.

    jl

    March 4, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    @Roger Moore: If you dirty up the words somewhat to Anacreon in Heaven, the music signs well. IMHO.

  65. 65.

    danielx

    March 4, 2015 at 7:43 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Also, when will this horrible trend with people yodeling every fucking word of the national anthem end? It sounds stupid.

    It does sound stupid. As to when it will end, that would be never because every goddamned warbler out there uses it as a way to show off his or her pipes. Best rendition of it I ever heard at a sporting event was an a cappella version by the Grateful Dead at a World Series game. Just came out and sang it, no tremolos, no notes held to the point being excruciating, and amazingly enough for the Dead, perfectly on key.

  66. 66.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 4, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Meanwhile, we will be able to sit out of doors at a sporting event along about Memorial Day up here, so if you were angling for sympathy, I’m fresh out.

  67. 67.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 4, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    @danielx: So after Jerry died, in other words.

  68. 68.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    March 4, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Once I’m put in charge of everything there will be a rule at hockey games: you have 75 seconds from the first note of the national anthem (you get a free drum roll to start it) to complete it. If the performer(s) run over, the home team gets a delay of game penalty and starts short handed for two minutes.

    If you’re ever asked to sing the anthem before a sporting event, before you step onto the field pull out your wallet and look carefully at your driver’s license. If the words “Marvin” and “Gaye” don’t appear on it, DON’T FREELANCE.

    As for me, I am switching to the overnight shift tonight and tomorrow night to finish my training. Then Friday night I fly solo for the first time. Something about my coworker wanting a break after working for 37 consecutive days.

  69. 69.

    mikej

    March 4, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    @trollhattan: I just sing I’m Henery the eigth I am. That ought to make everyone happy. Really, can you be upset while listening to Herman’s Hermits?

  70. 70.

    danielx

    March 4, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Nope, he was alive and more or less well if you leave out the part about him taking more than his share (and your share, and my share, and that guy over there’s share) of drugs.

  71. 71.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 4, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    @srv:

    This kid? (From the town I live in.)

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Krohn

  72. 72.

    Corner Stone

    March 4, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    @GHayduke (formerly lojasmo): So sad. Get well.

  73. 73.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    March 4, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    Kyle Coetzer has Scotland’s first ever ODI century. They’re pushing to make 300 runs against Bangladesh at the World Cup. Their attack is weak so you have to think that Bangladesh will pull off the chase, but it’s going to be more interesting than I expected.

  74. 74.

    srv

    March 4, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Actually, forgot about him. No, there was a kid who had a WorldNetDaily column – farther back in 2000’s.

    Kyle WIlliams was his name

  75. 75.

    Mandalay

    March 4, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: That kid (who is no longer a kid) had an interesting insight on why he is no longer a conservative:

    It was really reading philosophy that didn’t have anything to do with politics that gave me a breather and made me realize that a lot of what I said was ideological blather that really wasn’t meaningful. It wasn’t me thinking. It was just me saying things I had heard so long from people I thought were interesting and just came to believe for some reason, without really understanding it.

    Good for him.

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    JPL

    March 4, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    I’m streaming Chris Hayes and he’s going over the Ferguson charges. The systematic treatment of black Americans was awful. One man was cooling off after playing basketball and sitting in his car. He ended up with eight charges. One of the charges was he lied about his name. He said Mike and it was Michael.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    March 4, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    Coetzer is going bonkers. Up to 142 runs.

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    Betty Cracker

    March 4, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: I could get behind that plan. I’d also suggest trap doors leading to crocodile pits under seats to deal with loudly critical spectators when the players are minors.

  79. 79.

    Roger Moore

    March 4, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    @danielx:
    My personal favorite rendition of the national anthem is the instrumental version by the Marine Band. They play it straight, and nice and snappy. When they play it, it sounds more like a march than like a dirge.

  80. 80.

    Betty Cracker

    March 4, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    @JPL: Saw that story on a thread earlier. The guy ended up losing his job over that bullshit. That’s so fucked up. The penalties for abusing power like that should be severe.

  81. 81.

    Roger Moore

    March 4, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    @Mandalay:

    It wasn’t me thinking. It was just me saying things I had heard so long from people I thought were interesting and just came to believe for some reason, without really understanding it.

    Modern conservatism in a nutshell.

  82. 82.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    March 4, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    @Betty Cracker: My big issue is people who insist on moving around in the stands during play. I’m notorious at Gopher women’s hockey games for yelling at Goldy Gopher for blocking my view of play and at nine year olds that keep running around in front of me. One mother made the mistake of asking me, “Don’t you remember what you were like at that age?” To which my answer was, “Yes. According to my parents, by the time I was three I was already getting mad at people who obstructed my view.”

    I paid for a ticket to watch a game, not thet back of your head.

  83. 83.

    Hal

    March 4, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Also, when will this horrible trend with people yodeling every fucking word of the national anthem end? It sounds stupid.

    Vocal melisma. You can probably thank Whitney Houston, Christina Aguilera, Patti Labelle and every other wanna be singer on American Idol (I’m looking at you Jennifer Hudson.)

  84. 84.

    jl

    March 4, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    And it was reading philosophy that did it! And philosophy that didn’t outright tell him that was he was saying was meaningless, but merely prompted him to think about things. Philosophy is obviously subversive. Need to ban that subject, or defund it.

    It was better back when these philosophers were all penniless cynics in Athens wandering the streets, anyway. Had higher standards.

  85. 85.

    schrodinger's cat

    March 4, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Neither of those two teams are going to survive this round, so what does it matter. How are you watching the World Cup, are you streaming it or is it via satellite?

  86. 86.

    cckids

    March 4, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Tracey Ullman is to return to the BBC with her own comedy series,

    Love her. She was wonderful in “Into The Woods”; one of the few cast members to outshine their Broadway counterparts.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    March 4, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Just following the live scorecard at CricInfo. I enjoy the game even if they aren’t moving on. Besides, I’m one quarter Scottish ancestry, from the side of the family I like.

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    Mandalay

    March 4, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: You can watch it live here: http://firstrowus1.eu/sport/cricket.html

  89. 89.

    schrodinger's cat

    March 4, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: When I was in India last year, I had the opportunity to hang out at the CCI (Cricket Club of India) bar, called what else but the Sticky Wicket. One of my cousins by marriage is a state level cricketer.

  90. 90.

    Craigie

    March 4, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    @Zinsky:
    I almost spit up my coffee. Genius.

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    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    March 4, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: I have a couple of Australian friends that got me into cricket a while back. I’m loyal to my hemisphere, though; my favorite side is the West Indies.

    I think I need a Chris Gayle ODI jersey.

  92. 92.

    askew

    March 4, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    @GHayduke (formerly lojasmo):

    Yeah, not surprising.

    So, my Dad’s cancer is not responding to radiation or chemo and the Dr. has given him 2-6 months and he found a new lump in his neck today. I’m heartbroken. Cancer sucks.

  93. 93.

    Baud

    March 4, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    @askew:

    Jesus, that’s awful. All the best to you and your dad.

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    jl

    March 4, 2015 at 8:41 pm

    If allegations in Nina Pham’s lawsuit are true, makes faceless hospital conglomerate Texas Health Resources (owner and boss of your friendly local Dallas Presbyterian Hospital) look pretty bad, because, if true, it is bad:

    never trained in infectious disease care
    ordered to care for Ebola patient with no notice, with no training
    taught herself CDC protocols on the fly from the internet (her boss handed her results of initial internet search to get her started)
    had to improvise all personal protection waste disposal equipment procedures during first days

    From article, looks like the hospital put more resources into PR damage control later than into appropriate patient care at the beginning.

    The real story of how a Dallas nurse got Ebola could be worse than we ever imagined
    Business Insider By Lauren F Friedman
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/real-story-dallas-nurse-got-232919860.html

    Edit: did any of her co-workers get Ebola too? Seems like a miracle if they didn’t.

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    JPL

    March 4, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    @askew: I’m so sorry about your dad. Cancer sucks.

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    Josie

    March 4, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’d also suggest trap doors leading to crocodile pits under seats to deal with loudly critical spectators when the players are minors.

    I so agree with this, Betty. I even get angry with the sport commentators on tv who say unkind things about college football players. They just don’t get that they are only kids and are doing the best that they can.

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    schrodinger's cat

    March 4, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    @askew: {{{{hugs}}}} to you.

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    opiejeanne

    March 4, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    Sunday evening we got on a flight to Maui. It’s about 6.5 hours, so when you get bored and the people behind you are talking kind of loud, sometimes you tune in to hear what they’re saying, and then you’re sorry you did.

    My husband didn’t have to restrain me but it was a near thing, as I gnashed my teeth and fumed. The older guy behind us was telling a younger guy ALL ABOUT THE FCC PLOT TO STEAL OUR INTERNETS FOR THE BIG GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER.

    We also heard about Ebola from one of the flight attendants when I asked for some more water in my glass. No, I could only have a NEW cup, to prevent the spread of Ebola. He got a bit huffy with me when I pointed out that his airline doesn’t even fly to any of the countries that has Ebola, and told me that we did have it here. Yes, I said, 3 cases and there is now NO EBOLA here at all. He ran away before I could tell him to get a flu shot. Idiot.

    And on Facebook I’ve learned that most of the people I knew in HS are exactly as dumb as I thought they were back then, but there’s more proof now.

    There are a lot of gray-hairs staying here, including us but everyone else is at least 10 years older and most of them seem to be owners who live in snowy hellholes so they spend 4 months here every year. We have had very pleasant encounters with them but no one has mentioned politics or anything even remotely political, which is very nice, and this is a beautiful place. It’s older so the buildings are almost all only 2 storey ones.

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    opiejeanne

    March 4, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    @askew: I am so sorry. I still miss my dad who died too soon at age 94.

  100. 100.

    askew

    March 4, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Thanks everyone. Cancer does suck. He has throat cancer from years of untreated acid reflux that has spread into his bones. It is a fast moving cancer and there are very few options for it because it is pretty rare compared to other types of cancer I guess.

  101. 101.

    debit

    March 4, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    @askew: I am so sorry.

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    schrodinger's cat

    March 4, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: West Indies used to be a power to reckon with, but that was during the Reagan era.

    ETA: I will be rooting for India, but I think Australia and NZ both have the home team advantage so wouldn’t be surprised if either of those two win the cup.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    March 4, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    @askew:

    That’s very sad news. I am so very sorry.

  104. 104.

    Howard Beale IV

    March 4, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    @srv: But will they be smart enough to encrypt the living shit out of ’em first and foremost.

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    Howard Beale IV

    March 4, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    @jl: I think Nina and another worker were exposed.

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    ThresherK

    March 4, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    @Roger Moore: Did they provide the band rendition for Ken Burns’ “Baseball”? It’s perfectly stirring and is over in less than eighty seconds, even with a bit of stretching out the last two lines.

    Bruce Hornsby’s piano work really shone there too, to my ear.

    –

    @askew: Sorry for the family news.

  107. 107.

    the Conster

    March 4, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    @askew:

    My heartfelt condolences. We’re all going that way, but cancer does truly suck.

  108. 108.

    Eric S.

    March 4, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I’m so sorry Betty. Both that it happened and that I laughed so hard at the image.

  109. 109.

    jl

    March 4, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    @askew: My condolences too. Hope things go as well as possible,under the circumstances.

  110. 110.

    cckids

    March 4, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    @askew: I’m so sorry. Lost my dad almost a year ago to leukemia, it does entirely suck. Wishing you & him peace over the next few months.

  111. 111.

    Summer

    March 4, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    So, I haven’t chimed in recently and I haven’t even read this thread, and what brings me here is a terrible story. I was walking my dogs, and a friend’s dog with evidently a better nose, and the friend’s dog found two dead, dumped pit bulls in a little wooded area near my house. They were a heartbreaking site, two bodies near two garbage bags not 20 feet from a walking path. Young and not big, but not puppies. One was contorted and decayed, but the other looked like a healthy dog.
    I’ve taken photos and the sheriff’s department has been out. The officer thinks the wounds are from predators, but I want to make sure they’re not from the dogs being used as bait dogs. To me, they look like they are.Wounds and no fur on the face and hips/upper hind legs mostly.
    I wonder if any other of the dog lovers here knows where I might share these photos where they could be evaluated. I’m thinking the sheriff’s department isn’t going to take it seriously. There have been some pit bulls dumped in the county to the north, but not here evidently.
    Thanks for any suggestions.

  112. 112.

    Ripley

    March 4, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    Seems this kid can’t tell the government of the United States from Facebook.

    I teach grad students who struggle with that one. Sigh.

  113. 113.

    WaterGirl

    March 4, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Excited about your solo flight on Friday?

  114. 114.

    WaterGirl

    March 4, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    @JPL: I want to say that can’t possibly be true. Un-fucking-believable.

  115. 115.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 4, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    @askew: I’m so sorry.

  116. 116.

    askew

    March 4, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    @Summer:

    Holy crap! That’s just horrible. I don’t even know what to say to that except that is just horrible.

  117. 117.

    J R in WV

    March 4, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    @askew: I’m truly sorry to hear that. I’ve lost my Dad, a favorite cousin and several good co-workers to various cancer strains.

    One of my best friend’s wife seems to beating Stage IV breast cancer, thanks to U Va Medical Center… she’s gotten to know her first granddaughter already, so that’s good.

    I hope your Dad is able to be comfortable, and to visit with family for a good while. And never give up, sometimes things go better than anyone expects!

    Best wishes to all of you!

  118. 118.

    The Moar You Know

    March 4, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    @Summer: Did you take pictures? If so, contact several vets near you. Ask if they know the dogs. Ask if the injuries looks like after the fact predation/scavenging. Explain how you found them and where they were. Might want to contact a local ASPCA chapter if there is one. If not, call the national office.

    I’ll just say this – I find it extremely unlikely those dogs could have been anything else but bait dogs. People just don’t dump dead dogs in the woods for no reason. It’s inconvenient if nothing else.

  119. 119.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @Summer:
    Very sad and not something anybody wants to see. I’ve seen discarded pitbull corpses myself and it’s not difficult to come up with any number of appalling backstories.

    We’re having a rash of discarded beheaded animals in our metroplex–goats, lambs, chickens–you name it and all I can hope is they catch the assholes before they get bored and move on to homo sapiens.

  120. 120.

    David Koch

    March 4, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    Glenn Greenwald retweeted
    Barton Gellman @bartongellman · 12h 12 hours ago

    I don’t care who the Clintons hired: it is not possible for a high value target to secure a home-managed email server. Except from FOIA.

    Glenn Greenwald retweeted
    Barton Gellman @bartongellman · 12h 12 hours ago

    HRC was so determined to keep secrets from US citizens that she made it easy for foreign intel ops to steal them. http://bgell.me/18jWkku

    Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald · 14h 14 hours ago

    Clinton’s practice of keeping personal emails meant they were kept out of FOIA searches: how is that remotely OK?

    Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald · 14h 14 hours ago

    @colwight Yes, you have: **Public** officials wield *public* power & thus have transparency obligations which *private* citizens don’t.

    Wow. Barton Gellman and Greenwald are both going after Clinton. This must be serious scandal if these distinguished Pulitzer prize journalists say so.

    Hehehehehehhehehehhehehhehehhehehehhehheheh

    Watching them turn on each other is so much fun!

  121. 121.

    askew

    March 4, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Thanks again to everyone.

    @J R in WV:

    Glad to hear that your bf’s wife is winning against cancer. Sorry to hear about your losses though and wish more people could beat cancer. It is a shitty disease that takes too many loved ones too early.

    We’d like my Dad to make it until his new granddaughter is born in early June. That is if he isn’t in too much pain.

  122. 122.

    askew

    March 4, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    @David Koch:

    As much as I have been piling on HRC for this email mess she made, it looks like the AP was wrong when they said the server was at her house so I am going to hold my fire until there is more confirmation on what exactly she was doing. Of course, she could clear this up in a heartbeat with an interview.

  123. 123.

    Chickamin Slam

    March 4, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    I was out doing research today driving here and there. Parked outside the Port Gamble post office was a dirty Lexus with a “Run Ben Run – Ben Carson 2016” bumper sticker on it. Someone definitely thinks he has a shot.

  124. 124.

    Anne Laurie

    March 4, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    @JGabriel:

    Charles and David Koch both live in NYC.

    Charles and David proved back in the 1980s that they couldn’t get elected on their own merits. But Scott Walker, aka the Goggle-Eyed Homunculus, is governor of one of those proud Midwestern fiefdoms where the extraction industries & the megaretail barons run free… and Walker is very good at following orders, as long as those orders come with funding attached.

    Rand Son of Ron would’ve been a more natural fit for proud Birchites — I mean, Libertarians — like the Kochs, but Rand has his own army thanks to daddy’s years in the IGMFU trenches. Christie’s too WSJ, and Sanctorum, Huckabee & Pence keep trying to write their own scripts. If Walker hadn’t squeaked through his last election, the Kochs would probably have settled for Pence, or Brownback, or Thune.

  125. 125.

    Betty Cracker

    March 4, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    @askew: I’m so sorry.

  126. 126.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @askew:
    Very sorry. I hope the team treating your father can make his journey as positive as possible. You’re in my thoughts.

  127. 127.

    Anne Laurie

    March 4, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    @jl: Amber Vinson, who took a ton of crap from people (including some loudmouth with front-page access here) for flying back to her hometown in Ohio before her symptoms developed. She worked for the same hospital, caring for Thomas Duncan, as Pham.

  128. 128.

    Summer

    March 4, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    Thanks for the feedback. It was really helpful. I took lots of photos; I did send a photo to my vet, but haven’t heard back and wasn’t sure if it was something people do. I’ll check with lots of vets to see if they recognize the dogs. A reporter also asked to see the photos, having read my multiple emails to the city, but she hasn’t written back since. But maybe I’m just upset and impatient.

  129. 129.

    David Koch

    March 4, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    @askew: Oh, this is a nothingburger.

    but watching the disparate elements who hate Obama turn on each other is delicious.

    Hillary once said about Pakistan, “you can’t keep snakes in your backyard and think they’ll only bite your neighbors.” She was right, of course.

    I’ve been telling the Hillbots since 2008 that they would rue the day they built up people like Griftwald and others.

    The Reckoning has come. The snakes they kept and fed in their backyard are now biting them.

  130. 130.

    Summer

    March 4, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    @askew: Jeez, I’m so sorry to hear about your Dad.

  131. 131.

    Anne Laurie

    March 4, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    @David Koch: Always nice to get the Repub perspective, delivered fresh from the septic tank.

    They boosting your per-comment rates for the runups to the primaries, or are you still doing all this work just for the joy of hating on people who can get attention for something other than trolling?

  132. 132.

    rikyrah

    March 4, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    @askew:
    Sorry about your father. Cancer sucks. Cherish these days.

  133. 133.

    opiejeanne

    March 4, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Thank you. I am that terrible woman who hates the damned beach balls at baseball games, and when they come my way I keep them and let the air out of them. I give them to a kid after the game, usually not the usher. The ushers just stab them so no one can use them again.

  134. 134.

    mainmata

    March 4, 2015 at 10:29 pm

    @Amir Khalid: The Tea Party (rather the few barely rational among them) know that those they would choose as President are raving lunatics and/or major grifters with no chance at the general election so, of course, they are forced to vote for the Romneys and Bushes of their world. Jeb(!) knows this, of course; he’s just being decorous with the caution to the billionaire donors so as to mollify the base not to solicit their donations. He couldn’t care less about them, actually.

  135. 135.

    mainmata

    March 4, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Betty, you are consistently awesome and funny. Our environmental situation couldn’t be more different: steady cold rain that will shortly become freezing rain and then snow (predicted) all day tomorrow (DC region). I love snow but I don’t love freezing rain. So who won the game?

  136. 136.

    Violet

    March 4, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    @askew: Very sorry to hear about your dad. Cancer sucks.

  137. 137.

    catclub

    March 4, 2015 at 11:19 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: What is up with Tom Carper? The rest seem un-notable.

  138. 138.

    Cervantes

    March 5, 2015 at 12:06 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Plus Donnelly would have voted for the over-ride, too, had he been present.

  139. 139.

    fuckwit

    March 5, 2015 at 12:16 am

    It’s a big club, and you aint’ in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5dBZDSSky0

  140. 140.

    Cervantes

    March 5, 2015 at 12:18 am

    @JGabriel:

    Charles and David Koch both live in NYC.

    For what it’s worth: Charles lives in Wichita and David lives in New York. Needless to say, they each own homes in numerous other places.

  141. 141.

    Cervantes

    March 5, 2015 at 12:24 am

    @askew:

    I’m sorry to hear the prognosis, but he’s still with you, and vice versa — and I am sure you’ll find a way to make the most of what time remains. Bereavement hurts, always and by definition, but it can hurt less when you aren’t taken completely by surprise.

  142. 142.

    Cervantes

    March 5, 2015 at 12:28 am

    @srv:

    At least we know the Whitewater closet is empty now.

    If you’re talking about the Clintons, not only was that closet always empty, it did not really exist.

  143. 143.

    opiejeanne

    March 5, 2015 at 1:31 am

    @Cervantes: I wonder if they know how many houses they own, remembering McCain’s comment. Even if they don’t remember they have accountants to remind them.

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