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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Open Thread: Meanwhile, in Another Part of the Country…

Open Thread: Meanwhile, in Another Part of the Country…

by Anne Laurie|  March 7, 20157:21 pm| 54 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Election 2016, Enhanced Protest Techniques, Republican Stupidity, Republican Crime Syndicate - aka the Bush Admin.

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Jeb Bush told a DREAMer that DACA/DAPA were overreaches akin to a "Latin Americn dictator" http://t.co/FjKvdyr719

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) March 8, 2015

Yes, he’s a bilingual bigot! — FWIW. There are more Hispanics in Iowa than one might expect, because somebody’s got to work those CAFOs and HFCS factories. The 2016 Repub hopefuls had a prior commitment today, at the Iowa Ag Summit, described by Think Progress:

… The summit was organized by ethanol industry executive and major Republican donor Bruce Rastetter, who will interview the 11 likely Republican presidential hopefuls. Rastetter claims the event will “highlight and promote agriculture” and give candidates including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) the chance to address topics including renewable fuels, GMO’s, land conservation and federal subsidies.

But activists and farmers gathered at the offices of the Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement (Iowa CCI) told ThinkProgress that Rastetter’s “corporate ag” summit will manipulate the political process and spread messages and policies that will hurt family farmers and the agricultural industry…

Rastetter is a multimillionaire and the CEO of the agribusiness corporation Summit Group. In recent years, his political activism has grown and he has used his money earned through pork, ethanol and farm real estate businesses to become the state’s highest Republican donor, funding conservatives across the country…

Besides, Steve “Pig Booster” King says the Repubs didn’t feel welcome, anyways:

Representative Steve King declined to say whether it was a mistake for leading Republicans to skip Saturday’s commemoration of the Selma march, but said that “cultural friction” lingers in the country.

“I don’t know if it’s a mistake, but there is still that bit of cultural friction that’s there,” the Iowa Republican said Saturday during an interview with Bloomberg Politics’ Mark Halperin at the Iowa Agricultural Summit in Des Moines. He suggested that the friction makes some people feel unwelcome in certain situtations…

“I mean, if I walk into the Congressional Black Caucus—which I have done by mistake, by the way—and I look around there and, I have friends in there and people I like, but I also know that I’m not welcome in the Congressional Black Caucus.”

Asked why not, he replied, “Well, because I’m not an African American and that’s really, that’s it.”…

The real bigots, let him show you them!

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‘Rough translation’ of the video, from the guy who posted it on YouTube:

M: Will you prioritize the termination of the DACA & DAPA programs?

J: DACA is… Which one is DACA?

M: You said that you would undo President Obama’s overreach. Are you referring to DACA and DAPA?

J: Exactly, and pass them as a law instead of how it has been done.

M: So you do have plans to end DACA and DAPA.

J: DACA is, which one… the one that deals with Dreamers. We ought to give Dreamers priority towards citizenship, but through a law not through a decree – something a Latin American dictator would do.

M: But you would terminate the programs. So a person like me who qualified for DACA would be left out and without any opportunities.

J: No. What I am saying is that – I wrote a book – this is totally illegal (DACA & DAPA)

M: Yes, but, you recently said that you would dismantle both programs (DACA & DAPA)

J: Exactly, and pass a bill that would allow for a permanent solution. What DACA does it that it only allows for 2 year (status). That makes no sense.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    March 7, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    J: Exactly, and pass them as a law instead of how it has been done.

    Jeb! has an opportunity to show some leadership by urging the GOP house to pass a permanent solution now.

  2. 2.

    lamh36

    March 7, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    ICYMI: Watch the Obamas reenact history by crossing the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama. #Selma50.

    https://twitter.com/msnbc/status/574351507790766080

    The small delegation included POTUS and the family and they were singing same song as icons of the past

  3. 3.

    divF

    March 7, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    @efgoldman: I guess you can’t yell at the kids to get off of your lawn without a lawn.

  4. 4.

    Princess

    March 7, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    Some of Steve King’s best friends are in the Congressional Black Caucus.

  5. 5.

    Roger Moore

    March 7, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    @Baud:

    Jeb! has an opportunity to show some leadership by urging the GOP house to pass a permanent solution now.

    And if he does, they will take advantage of an opportunity to show their asses by refusing to do so in the most insulting way possible. That’s who they are.

  6. 6.

    Salsa_Lover

    March 7, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    I feel like all the Republican debates are going to be them saying repeal and replace over and over and over again. Obamacare, repeal and replace; Immigration, repeal and replace; EPA, repeal and replace; IRS, repeal and replace.

  7. 7.

    satby

    March 7, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    @lamh36: and the troglodyte contingent on Twitter showed up in comments. Fuck those people.

  8. 8.

    Ruckus

    March 7, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    @Salsa_Lover:
    They say repeal and replace but only seem to want to replace with hot air.

  9. 9.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 7, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    @lamh36: jesus the replies to that tweet are utterly horrifying

  10. 10.

    divF

    March 7, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    @efgoldman: So I hear. My sister lives in Foxborough, and she has definitely had it.

    We don’t have a lawn, and a good thing, too, since we would not have any water for it come summer.

  11. 11.

    mai naem mobile

    March 7, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    The AZ legislature passed then 2015 fiscal year budget. Governor . Dougie Douchebag has turned out to be Douchier than I expected. A Dem native American legislator sold his vote for 1.2M in infrastructure and some tuition waiver. The legislature is bright fire engine red and didn’t need any Dem votes if the GOPrs stuck together. There were some GOPrs who voted against it. One apparently walked off. Let me put it this way – Former Gov Jan “Obama finger jabber”Brewer looks like Jacob Javits compared to Douchebag. Big cuts in all levels of education and healthcare. We’re trying hard to become the Mississippi of the West.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    March 7, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Lawn implies weeds. I’ll take the winter.

  13. 13.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 7, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    I also know that I’m not welcome in the Congressional Black Caucus.

    This is because you’re a known racist shitstain, King.

  14. 14.

    Ron Thompson

    March 7, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    Well, since the artcle refers to them but doesn’t say what they are. . .what (TF) are DACA and DAPA? And are we just assumed to know what they are, or is it the job of the reader of Balloon Juice to google these things?

  15. 15.

    sharl

    March 7, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    @satby:
    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    The responses to a lot of Ferguson tweets typically also include large heapings of such horrible racist shit.

    If you have the stomach for it, and go look at their twitter bios, in my experience a fair number of those racist tweet authors self-describe as “Christian”, and hell, a few will even have “compassionate” in there somewhere. Real charmers, that lot.

  16. 16.

    divF

    March 7, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    @Ron Thompson: Can’t blame anyone here – this was all from the transcript of the conversation with JEB! .

    Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents (DAPA)
    Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)

  17. 17.

    Cacti

    March 7, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Steve Scalise declined to show up for the Selma commemoration when he was told that a speech honoring Sheriff Jim Clark wasn’t appropriate.

  18. 18.

    shelley

    March 7, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    @efgoldman: Patience, my pet, patience.

  19. 19.

    marindenver

    March 7, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    @lamh36: The video (like the speech) was inspirational. But don’t read any of the Twitter responses unless you’ve got some brain bleach handy. Yikes!

  20. 20.

    MomSense

    March 7, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    @lamh36:

    The video was gorgeous but some of the replies…

    My middle son was at work today and texted me that he was in tears watching the speeches. My youngest and I were watching at home and he told me he wished that “his president could serve another term”.

    As much as the haters annoy me, there is something very beautiful and positive happening with those of us whose hearts are not hardened. Seeing our first family at the head of the march filled me with pride. Today was a day of beauty and grace in Selma.

  21. 21.

    shelley

    March 7, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    For a minute, thought this was the Iowa Caucus. Did they have that already or is that still to come next year or…..

    Whatever. It’s always the same; they’ll elect Santorum or Rand Paul as ‘Most Likely To’ which will mean as much as a bucket of pig spit.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    March 7, 2015 at 8:23 pm

    @MomSense: You seem to have done a good job as a mom, MomSense.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    March 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    According to my RSS feed, daily kos didn’t cover Selma today. Strange.

  24. 24.

    Hildebrand

    March 7, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    @lamh36: Thank you for posting the link to the video – I missed them marching across the bridge, and so wanted to see that moment. The comments make my heart ache – the hatred is something that I simply cannot understand.

  25. 25.

    Bubba

    March 7, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Anne,

    These illegal immigrants aren’t victims and I am tired of them being presented as such. You guys who are for open borders are crazy. It is not the year 1810 where the more than half the country was unexplored and we needed millions for mining, timber, building railroads and working in the nascent industrial revolution. Literally the United States has a labor force participation rate of around 62%. That means we have 9 million people out of work who are looking. We don’t need to naturalize any more people at least at this time. You should know better.
    My source:

  26. 26.

    MomSense

    March 7, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    @Baud:

    Thank you. It was pretty chaotic. If you had stumbled upon us at any given moment you would have wondered what on earth was going on but there was a method to my madness.

  27. 27.

    divF

    March 7, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    @efgoldman: Out here it is quack grass. For better or worse, there is a giant oak tree that shades most of our yard. Quite beautiful, but the leaves are toxic to pretty much any ground cover, so all we have is bare soil and tanbark.

  28. 28.

    Mike in NC

    March 7, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    I spent about a week in Iowa once and didn’t see a single non-white person. Perhaps whiter than Idaho or North Dakota?

  29. 29.

    gene108

    March 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    Does John Ellis think he can get immigration reform through his Republican Party? His big brother failed miserably because Republicans killed any hope Bush, Jr. had of passing it.

    There’s no way in hell a Republican President is going to get the knuckle draggers in their own Party to agree to immigration reform and it will die either in the Senate or House.

  30. 30.

    divF

    March 7, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @gene108:

    Does John Ellis think he can get immigration reform through his Republican Party?

    Probably easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle.

  31. 31.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 7, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    Obama and I suppose Hillary ought to do the death hug on Bush with immigration: I call on Republicans to listen to their own leaders like Governor Bush, who supports…

  32. 32.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    March 7, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    @Bubba: Oh look, a troll. And he appears to have a missing… link.

    Irony’s pimp hand is STRONG.

  33. 33.

    aangus

    March 7, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Yup!

  34. 34.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 7, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    @satby: Why doesn’t MSNBC delete and block the racists? I don’t understand why left wing media allows racists to thrive on their platforms. Right wing media block and delete dissenting comments all the time.

  35. 35.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 7, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @Hildebrand: Hate to say it but too many Whites still despise Black people right here in the good old USA. Don’t know why so many people are surprised when this shared hatred is made public. That’s why cops like those in Ferguson got away with their nonsense for so long.

  36. 36.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    March 7, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Because people on the left would screech about FREE SPEECH!! Ironically, they would probably be the same people who complain that Democrats never fight back.

  37. 37.

    Darkrose

    March 7, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    I immediately set the video to full screen, and now dammit, my allergies are acting up. Fuck all the racist dickheads; I’m looking at a First Family that looks like my family, and all the wailing and breastbeating in the world can’t take that away.

  38. 38.

    Darkrose

    March 7, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    @Bubba:

    My source: [insert picture of own ass here]

  39. 39.

    Culture of Truth

    March 7, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    You know who else declined to prosecute millions of people? Hitler, that’s who.

    In other news, I’m impressed Steve King actually used the term “African American.”

  40. 40.

    Debbie

    March 7, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Back when I lived in NH, it was so white, they used coleslaw on Reubens instead of sauerkraut.

  41. 41.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 7, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    @Bubba: Awesome drive by.

  42. 42.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 7, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    @efgoldman: 19 y/o black kid was killed by cops last night. Protests today. Outside investigators are looking into what happened. FWIW a commenter on this site knows the kid who was killed and has a personal stake in what happened.

  43. 43.

    Another Holocene Human

    March 7, 2015 at 10:42 pm

    @Ron Thompson: Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals, you know only one of the biggest political stories in the USA in 2014.

  44. 44.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 7, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    @Another Holocene Human: People may well be aware of “Dreamers” without knowing the acronyms.

  45. 45.

    Another Holocene Human

    March 7, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: because MSNBC sucks?

    RawStory is terrible but they are good about nuking racist trolls fast.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 7, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    @Another Holocene Human: As you comment on a blog that wields a very light hand on banning….

  47. 47.

    Hildebrand

    March 7, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: I know. One sees it every bloody day, but it doesn’t lessen the impact – the sheer vehemence of the hate is simply beyond my understanding. I cannot hate, and certainly not with such depth and fury. They are more kin to the ISIS folks than anyone else – that level of vitriol is beyond my comprehension. Who can live like that?

  48. 48.

    Keith

    March 7, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    I had a fake Steve King quote akin to “calves like cantelopes” but I deemed it too vulgar and will just leave it to the imagination.

  49. 49.

    sm*t cl*de

    March 8, 2015 at 4:17 am

    ethanol industry executive

    Corporate-welfare poster-boy wants to screen presidential candidates for adherence to Republican values of self-reliance and small government and entrepreneurial enterprise. I am astonished.

  50. 50.

    Bubba

    March 8, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Sorry about that missing link.

    You don’t think the corporate class likes bringing in all these undocumented workers to lower wages? don’t you think that goal that is bad for legal residents? It has been throughout history, and I suspect it is the case today. Please rebut my argument instead of calling me a troll.

  51. 51.

    Barry

    March 8, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    @gene108: “Does John Ellis think he can get immigration reform through his Republican Party? His big brother failed miserably because Republicans killed any hope Bush, Jr. had of passing it.”

    No.

    It’s the new GOP position – Democrats shouldn’t do something; they should let Congress do it.

  52. 52.

    Fred

    March 8, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    “All ya can see is their eyes and their teeth!” *

    *Quote from one of the pig cops in the movie, “Fritz the Cat”

  53. 53.

    kyle

    March 8, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Of course Steve King doesn’t have any friends. He only has interests.

  54. 54.

    Peale

    March 8, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    Well, if anyone knows how dictators ruled in Central America, it would be a Bush.

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