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Late Night Bigfoot Bait Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  March 13, 201512:34 am| 55 Comments

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Everyone saying "kale is okay if you add bacon" — WHY ARE YOU RUINING YOUR BACON

— John Scalzi (@scalzi) March 10, 2015

Presumably in response to the business news. While I’ll happily eat almost all vegetables, I’ve never been served kale where I wouldn’t have preferred a different leafy green…

Whoa if kale RT @TheStalwart: Nobody going to McDonald's wants kale, and nobody who eats kale will go to McDonald's. http://t.co/RHVLoxfhg7

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) March 10, 2015

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  1. 1.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    March 13, 2015 at 12:38 am

    Heard an interesting bit that collard greens are better for you than kale in most particulars – but they’re poor people’s food, so kale wins. Not sure if it’s true, but it’s an interesting social commentary if so.

  2. 2.

    Tommy

    March 13, 2015 at 12:40 am

    I am close to a vegetarian. You can take away a lot of meat. You can not take away my pork.

  3. 3.

    TaMara (BHF)

    March 13, 2015 at 12:46 am

    I go to McDonalds for french fries and diet coke. I own a very expensive blender for smoothies. I would never mistake one for the other.

  4. 4.

    Vixen Strangely

    March 13, 2015 at 12:47 am

    All I can say is–kale chips. Covered in “vegan cheese” and assorted odd flavorings. It’s like whatever is wrong about the idea of “kale” and “vegan cheese” cancel each other out if you add enough garlic salt.

    Confession: these have been my vegetable at more than a few meals.

    Second confession: I consider pork rinds a meat serving. So if I have pork rinds and kale chips with actual dairy (like a sour cream dip) I have had a well balanced meal and sleep like one of the blessed.

  5. 5.

    Mike J

    March 13, 2015 at 12:49 am

    Italian scientists ‘recreate DNA’ of fascist warrior-poet from semen stains

    Forensic team says it used handkerchief splashed with Gabriele D’Annunzio’s sperm to recreate eccentric, 19th-century, rightwing leader’s genetic blueprint

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/12/italian-scientists-dna-fascist-warrior-poet-semen-gabriele-dannunzio

    They’ve already booked rooms at the Holiday Inn in Cedar Rapids.

  6. 6.

    Peale

    March 13, 2015 at 12:49 am

    I assume that a naval officer named McKale will be joining Hamburgler and Grimace.

  7. 7.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 12:53 am

    okay, the josh is suddenly everywhere.

  8. 8.

    ruemara

    March 13, 2015 at 12:55 am

    Kale is fantastic as kale chips. It’s awesome as delicious raw salad with avocados. In short, kale is delicious.

    So is bacon. Not sure why people are supposed to hate veggies so much.

  9. 9.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 12:57 am

    @ruemara:

    we fear.

  10. 10.

    Violet

    March 13, 2015 at 1:00 am

    @ruemara: @efgoldman: I’m the other way. You can take away almost any food but vegetables. Love them.

  11. 11.

    maeve

    March 13, 2015 at 1:01 am

    McDonalds is behind the times – the up and coming food is celery

    https://youtu.be/zQX44THWIyc

  12. 12.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:02 am

    @Violet:

    this is strange witchcraft.

    no lamb? no drumsticks?

  13. 13.

    lamh36

    March 13, 2015 at 1:02 am

    Took me a year but I finally got my tv off the floor. I got off early today so I put together the tv stand I bought last week with a little help from my lil sister.

    Here are before and after: https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/576246067202809856.

  14. 14.

    Peale

    March 13, 2015 at 1:04 am

    @efgoldman: I was hoping they’d bring us herds of wooly mammoths first before bringing back the fascists.

  15. 15.

    Peale

    March 13, 2015 at 1:06 am

    @Little Boots: at the churrascaria, Violet never flips her token to green.

  16. 16.

    Tree With Water

    March 13, 2015 at 1:07 am

    My god, my god… we might be witnessing this generation’s “new coke” crisis unfolding before our eyes. I just pray today’s kids don’t blink when eyeball-to-eyeball with the upper management geniuses who probably hadn’t tasted it but thought kale sounded hip.

  17. 17.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:07 am

    @Peale:

    Putin has a plan, I’m guessing.

  18. 18.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    March 13, 2015 at 1:12 am

    @ruemara: I don’t really see any point to kale chips. I like kale, but it seemed like chips removed all the kale out of the kale, leaving only zool, or something like that.

  19. 19.

    Violet

    March 13, 2015 at 1:17 am

    @Little Boots: Don’t get me wrong–I’m definitely an omnivore. But if I had to choose it would always be vegetables over anything else. Except chocolate.

    @Peale: No, I love a good churrascaria. And I don’t fill up at the salad bar. But like I said, if I had to choose it would always be vegetables.

  20. 20.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:19 am

    @Violet:

    as you should. I feed on snark, but that’s me. and yeah, chocolate.

    and the very occasional nip of alcohol.

  21. 21.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:24 am

    so, Walker, my illustrious governor.

    next nominee or next doofus who doesn’t make the cut?

  22. 22.

    jl

    March 13, 2015 at 1:28 am

    I hate bacon. Force fed it on farm as kid (as I have commented whenever bacon comes up), with fried eggs. Still don’t like bacon or fried eggs.
    Pancakes were special, only on Sunday (maybe). I love pancakes. Waffles were extra special and rare, and now I love waffles.

    I don’t understand the McDonalds identity crisis thing. Why would anyone stop going there because they had more variety?
    I started going their more often when they had more choices. When I wanted to junk out, and for one of their healthier items when I was hungry and nothing better around (as opposed to going hungry a little longer).

  23. 23.

    jl

    March 13, 2015 at 1:30 am

    @Little Boots: Walker signed right to work law yesterday, or day before. I wonder how that experiment will affect his pres hopes.

  24. 24.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:31 am

    hate bacon? hate bacon? hate. bacon. these are words that do not fit. the world is strange.

  25. 25.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:32 am

    @jl:

    I dunno. labor has fallen apart. for the nomination, nothing but win. for the general? not sure.

  26. 26.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 13, 2015 at 1:33 am

    The climate change is going to kill us all in 35 years or so, and this is the best our media mavens can come up with as a diversion.

    Now I know how the Mayans felt.

  27. 27.

    Martin Tollefson

    March 13, 2015 at 1:34 am

    Kale vs bacon? No, Kale AND bacon.

    Hi. I’m new here to posting, but am a long-time lurker. Just had to add my 2 cents to the topic.

    Bacon vs. kale? No, bacon AND kale.

    To wit:

    Put a good sized skillet, for which you have a lid, on medium-low heat. Line the bottom of the skillet with bacon. Entirely. Slice a yellow onion thinly, and use it to cover the bacon entirely. Then, do the same with a good sized potato (I use Yukon Golds). Finally, take an entire bunch of kale, de-rib it, and then coarsely chop. Put all of the chopped kale on top of the layer of potato.

    Turn the heat down to simmer, cover, and let cook for an hour undisturbed.

    Pour yourself a glass of a good earthy red wine (like a chianti, for instance), and serve.

    You can thank me later.

  28. 28.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 13, 2015 at 1:34 am

    @Little Boots: Supposedly the Cylons had a plan, too, and look how well that turned out.

  29. 29.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:35 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    there is that. it’s almost a relief sometimes. our culture sucks. not sure we deserve end of the world, but maybe.

  30. 30.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:36 am

    and mega points for cylons. i might have to watch that again.

  31. 31.

    Little Boots

    March 13, 2015 at 1:38 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    or rather, you probably know how a tiny fraction of mayans felt, trying to get people to give a damn when pretty much nobody did.

  32. 32.

    srv

    March 13, 2015 at 1:48 am

    Next up, Obama will be bombing people with kale.

    Or forcing it on our children with kale stamps.

  33. 33.

    Betty Cracker

    March 13, 2015 at 2:28 am

    I like kale in soup, but that’s about it.

    @jl: When I was a kid, we had fish all the time — mostly grouper — because my father was an avid spearfisherman, so we always had a freezerful. It took years to overcome my aversion to it. It still amuses me that some people think it’s such a delicacy and are willing to shell out so much for it.

  34. 34.

    PurpleGirl

    March 13, 2015 at 2:28 am

    I think the reason many (most?) people don’t like leafy green vegetables is that their mothers either used them in salad that was bland or cooked the hell out them and they were still bland. The bland had no texture, no taste, no nothing.

    I don’t remember my Mother ever making Brussel sprouts. A male friend made them one time steamed and spiced and I really like them. Another friend’s sister made them as her contribution to a family Thanksgiving; they were sliced almost paper thin, spiced and sprinkled with bacon bits. The dish was great.

    I think the reason people like carrots, peas and corn is that they were usually made to be buttered and salted and people like that.

  35. 35.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    March 13, 2015 at 2:29 am

    Kale is really good in soup. It holds up a lot better than spinach.

    Other than that, I got nothin’.

  36. 36.

    Betty Cracker

    March 13, 2015 at 2:46 am

    @PurpleGirl: I roast brussel sprouts — toss ’em in olive oil, sprinkle with salt and pepper and roast them on a sheet pan in a 400 degree oven until golden on the outside and fork tender. Man, they’re good that way. We just had some this evening, and even the kiddo eats them without complaint.

  37. 37.

    John Revolta

    March 13, 2015 at 2:56 am

    @Betty Cracker: I say saute. Heavy skillet, olive oil, garlic chopped up fine. Sea salt, natch.

    Yeah, let ’em burn a little. Oooooooo……………………….

  38. 38.

    Elizabelle

    March 13, 2015 at 3:21 am

    @Martin Tollefson: sounds delish.

  39. 39.

    Elizabelle

    March 13, 2015 at 3:22 am

    @Betty Cracker: Gotta try that. My dad loved brussels sprouts.

  40. 40.

    mclaren

    March 13, 2015 at 3:29 am

    The Beltway media jackals once again rise from their graves to rip and tear at Hillary Clinton. I’m not a big fan of HIllary, but at this point I’m starting to edge toward the “kill it with fire” response to the Washington D.C. political mainstream media.

    In other news:

    At the core of this “surveillance industrial complex” lies a complex web of information gathering, storing, and sharing. LAPD’s eye in the sky is not operating in isolation but is incorporated into the department’s massive architecture of surveillance that deploys human resources and electronic equipment.

    Such policies systematically incentivize racial profiling, ride roughshod over the right to privacy and erode the principle of innocent until proven guilty. By assuming certain individuals or behaviors are suspicious, this new style of speculative policing treats people as guilty until proven innocent. They are tools of social control masked by the rhetoric of national security and public safety – and there is simply no excuse for them.

    Source: “LAPD helicopters flying overhead don’t deter crime. They antagonize minorities,” The Guardian, 12 March 2015.

    Black people today, middle-class white protesters tomorrow…

  41. 41.

    Cervantes

    March 13, 2015 at 6:22 am

    @LongHairedWeirdo:

    Heard an interesting bit that collard greens are better for you than kale in most particulars – but they’re poor people’s food, so kale wins. Not sure if it’s true, but it’s an interesting social commentary if so.

    They’re both good for you but, ounce for ounce, kale is in many ways the more nutritious of the two.

    Where did you hear otherwise?

  42. 42.

    Abo gato

    March 13, 2015 at 6:42 am

    @Martin Tollefson: Martin, thanks. I think I’ll make that tonight.

  43. 43.

    chopper

    March 13, 2015 at 7:46 am

    @ruemara:

    Kale chips are easy and great. Kale is also great baked with some coconut oil and soy sauce. Also, raw kale with the right dressing can be fucking delicious.

  44. 44.

    brantl

    March 13, 2015 at 7:50 am

    I have never had kale in its unmodified state without thinking that someone had managed to make a rusty nail (not the drink, the actual thing itself) flabby. IF you modify it enough, it’s edible, but it’s really spending $3.00 to make $.20 edible.

  45. 45.

    gogol's wife

    March 13, 2015 at 7:55 am

    @ruemara:

    Kale is delicious. I never understand this whole riff.

  46. 46.

    gogol's wife

    March 13, 2015 at 7:56 am

    And by the way I had a raw kale salad in Berkeley that was one of the tastiest things I’ve ever eaten in my life. It’s all in knowing how to do it.

  47. 47.

    gogol's wife

    March 13, 2015 at 7:56 am

    @chopper:

    Right. That’s what I had in Berkeley. Okay, off to work now.

  48. 48.

    Cheap Jim, formerly Cheap Jim

    March 13, 2015 at 8:18 am

    Kale is a delightfully rococo version of collards. Collards will last longer without being cooked, however. Either is good, cooked the old-fashioned way, just barely simmered for as long as necessary with sweated onion, celery, and pepper. Add cayenne and a bit of salt. A turkey neck or ham hock can be added for flavor and protein, but is not necessary.

    Oh, and the resulting pot liquor is good for those with head colds.

  49. 49.

    satby

    March 13, 2015 at 8:28 am

    @Martin Tollefson: yum! I make something similar but without the bacon. Tastes like the Irish dish colcannon.

  50. 50.

    low-tech cyclist

    March 13, 2015 at 9:11 am

    “Everyone saying “kale is okay if you add bacon” — WHY ARE YOU RUINING YOUR BACON”

    Best. Tweet. Ever.

  51. 51.

    Mobile Grumpy Code Monkey

    March 13, 2015 at 9:31 am

    I’m one of those weird types who actually likes kale and other bitter greens, and I’ve done the combo of kale and bacon. It’s awesome. But even kale by itself cooked with a little oil and salt is pretty good too.

    And this from a guy who eats at Whataburger several times a week (no cheese, all the veggies plus grilled jalapeños, dry). Not exactly a health food nut, here.

  52. 52.

    chopper

    March 13, 2015 at 11:15 am

    @gogol’s wife:

    the secret is to massage the raw kale. serious.

  53. 53.

    chopper

    March 13, 2015 at 11:16 am

    @John Revolta:

    yeh, burn it just a bit. hot cast iron skillet and wring the moisture out of the kale.

    I also toss it with some homemade concentrated chicken stock which adds a lot of flavor.

  54. 54.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    March 13, 2015 at 11:50 am

    I don’t get the kale popularity explosion either. It isn’t any more nutritious or healthy than any other green (as far as I’ve heard) and if pressed to pick the best tasting green that is usually cooked (as opposed to served raw) I’d probably pick either beet or mustard greens. Both taste much better than kale IMO.

  55. 55.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    March 13, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    @Cervantes: I haven’t the foggiest. It might have been another green as well – turnip or mustard (since a quick websearch suggests my memory or the source, was incorrect).

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