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Tuesday Morning Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  March 17, 20156:26 am| 80 Comments

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Some of you deserve this:

As you fashion-forward folks undoubtedly know, there’s a big Twitter slapfight going on between designers Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana and their billionaire celebrity (former) customers over the designers’ offensive comments about gay families.

Elton John is leading the boycott against the fashionistas, who really did say some incredibly stupid and offensive things, so they deserve the backlash they’re getting. But it’s a little rich coming from Rush Limbaugh’s pal Elton John. I hope Sir Elton has learned his lesson and will refuse to play at Limbaugh’s fifth wedding.

Anyway, I’ll be going through my couture closet and purging it of Dolce & Gabbana items. What are you up to today?

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  1. 1.

    BruceFromOhio

    March 17, 2015 at 6:29 am

    Today’s agenda includes enjoying the drum corps and avoiding the drunks.

    Later, there will be corned beef and recently bottled Irish lager.

  2. 2.

    Mustang Bobby

    March 17, 2015 at 6:32 am

    I’ll be going through my couture closet and purging it of Dolce & Gabbana items.

    I flunked that part of Gay Indoctrination; I buy my clothes one aisle over from Auto Parts.

  3. 3.

    Betty Cracker

    March 17, 2015 at 6:35 am

    @BruceFromOhio: I completely forgot it’s St. Paddy’s Day. I’m not making corned beef and cabbage for the first 3/17 since…I don’t remember when. My family will probably rejoice behind my back.

  4. 4.

    Botsplainer

    March 17, 2015 at 6:37 am

    So the Israeli election closes at 10 PM local, 4 PM EDT. How long till results get tabulated, and how long will it take them to cobble a coalition? Is there a long lame duck period?

    I’ve been a little surprised at the simple-mindedness that appears to be their campaign rhetoric. A lot of it sounds like the same stupid shit you can hear in a county election in East Bumfuck Arkansas.

  5. 5.

    ThresherK

    March 17, 2015 at 6:40 am

    @Mustang Bobby: I do not wear a lot of cologne, or often, but their scent is one on a very short list approved for my use by my wife.

    BTW, I did not know Dolce and Gabbana were two actual people and they were still living. What’s the opposite of fashion-forward?

  6. 6.

    Kropadope

    March 17, 2015 at 6:42 am

    @Botsplainer:

    I’ve been a little surprised at the simple-mindedness that appears to be their campaign rhetoric

    Netanyahu is their prime minister. What did you expect?

  7. 7.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 17, 2015 at 6:47 am

    @ThresherK:

    I do not wear a lot of cologne, or often, but their scent is one on a very short list approved for my use by my wife.

    Me too. My wife is particularly fond of the Gold Valvoline 10W-30.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    March 17, 2015 at 6:48 am

    How the hell is someone in fashion and anti-gay?

  9. 9.

    ThresherK

    March 17, 2015 at 6:51 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: For an ex-hippie chick, my wife has quite the positive response to the synthetic aroma of Mobil 1 10W-30.

    At least when I emerge from the garage saying “Your oil is all set for another three months.”

  10. 10.

    Betty Cracker

    March 17, 2015 at 6:55 am

    @Baud: Dolce and Gabbana are apparently gay themselves but with extraordinary retrograde views. And abysmal marketing instincts!

  11. 11.

    Baud

    March 17, 2015 at 6:56 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Do they call themselves Log Cabin Designers?

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 17, 2015 at 6:57 am

    @Baud: THEY are gay. THEY are also against gays having children.

  13. 13.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 17, 2015 at 7:07 am

    On the continuing saga of my old(6 yo) computer(survaillance/email/web). I got a new power supply and installed it this evening. The case fan’s a bit gimpy, but I gave it a little tap and it started spinning away. The new CPU seems to be working: temps look OK and it’s running virtualization well.

  14. 14.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 17, 2015 at 7:09 am

    A seriously cool cat.

  15. 15.

    ThresherK

    March 17, 2015 at 7:18 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: “Gave the fan a little tap and it started spinning away”?

    I’ve fixed systems like that. Maybe you need to station an assistant to hit the case with a broomhandle every so often.

    (Or is that more of a mid-frame / minicomputer fix than a microcomputer fix?)

  16. 16.

    PurpleGirl

    March 17, 2015 at 7:19 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Cat Dude iz seriously chillin there.

  17. 17.

    Mustang Bobby

    March 17, 2015 at 7:25 am

    @Betty Cracker: We queers can be as cliquey as middle-school mean girls. As far as I’m concerned, this quote from The Ritz nails it:

    Screw you, honey. Boy, if there’s one thing I can’t stand it’s a queen without a sense of humor. You can die with your secret… miserable piss-elegant fairy.

  18. 18.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 17, 2015 at 7:27 am

    @PurpleGirl: When in Rio….

  19. 19.

    Phylllis

    March 17, 2015 at 7:32 am

    @Betty Cracker: I gave up on corned beef a couple of years ago. Never satisfied with how it came out. Irish stew with Guinness (and a glug or two of Pinot Noir) in the crock pot for supper. After all that chopping and whatnot, I’m exhausted and really don’t want to go to work. Just glad not to be in Savannah or Charleston today.

  20. 20.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 17, 2015 at 7:34 am

    @ThresherK: I think replacement of the fan will be the next course of action if the fan problem occurs again. It wasn’t a problem before I had the machine down to replace the processor. Then again, it may be a function of the relative cost of “the assistant” and a new fan.

  21. 21.

    Sherparick

    March 17, 2015 at 7:35 am

    Excellent post about Brooks and Douthat and the fables they spin at the Daily Kos. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/16/1371379/-Open-thread-for-night-owls-Poor-stories-from-Brooks-and-Douhat

    The Baffler article is certainly a great counter-point. It brought to mind a classic from the 1970s that demythologize the “Good Old Days,” “Wisconsin Death Trip,” a detailed account of 1890s Gilded Age life in rural Wisconsin. One thing I enjoyed about Larry McMurtry’s “Lonesome Dove” and later “Deadwood” was how it portrayed the family bonds. In my Irish family history going up, the stories of the 1890s through the 1920s were filled with early death, drunkenness, and abandonment.

    A remarkable fact of the current moment, is when all sorts of social ills are actually improving, despite terrible inequality, there is this conservative panic, both about the “others” domestically and abroad where they want to wage eternal war.

  22. 22.

    FlyingToaster

    March 17, 2015 at 7:50 am

    But it’s a little rich coming from Rush Limbaugh’s pal Elton John. I hope Sir Elton has learned his lesson and will refuse to play at Limbaugh’s fifth wedding.

    It was a gig. A 7-figure gig, IIRC. I’d have taken the money, too.

    Rush won’t be able to afford that at his fifth wedding. It’ll be his new bride’s second-cousin once removed acting as iPod DJ.

  23. 23.

    Splitting Image

    March 17, 2015 at 7:56 am

    @Baud:

    How the hell is someone in fashion and anti-gay?

    They’re not anti-gay. They’re anti-“little people”. They got what they wanted out of gay liberation, and they’re not interested in having children. So fuck everyone else who does.

  24. 24.

    Suzanne

    March 17, 2015 at 7:57 am

    I love Dolce & Gabbana’s perfume. I wear the women’s on occasion, and I bought the men’s for Mr. Suzanne.

    I had a coworker say far, FAR more offensive shit about fertility than this.

  25. 25.

    ThresherK

    March 17, 2015 at 8:00 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I’m just on the border of “not awake enough” to wonder “When did we start talking about radiator fans in cars?”

    But seriously, yeah, fans are cheap and easy (usually) compared to the microsurgery that some processor replacements and upgrades entail. I forget, did you upgrade the processor?

    Bonus: If you’re like some people (not me, usually), dusting off the interior simply to get to the fan results in much better cooling.

    I was never so OC about it until I worked in an in-patient health-care setting, meaning 24×7 computer use and 24×7 of people being there and having their dead skin cells shedding and being sucked into computer systems. Compared to an ordinary office setting of 12×5, it builds up a lot quicker. Then again, I was never so OC about washing my hands until that particular job also.

  26. 26.

    Baud

    March 17, 2015 at 8:00 am

    @Suzanne: Tell Elton John. Maybe he’ll boycott your coworker.

  27. 27.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 8:11 am

    Margaret Elizabeth Downs Figg came from County Clare in 1854. She was our grandfather’s grandmother. I don’t drink and I don’t eat meat so this will have to do.

  28. 28.

    PurpleGirl

    March 17, 2015 at 8:11 am

    @ThresherK: I have a friend who worked for IBM in operating systems. At home he had an IBM box that was on 24/7/365. He’d taken off one of the side panels so the interior got very dusty and filled with cat/dog hair. I don’t remember him ever cleaning it or replacing the fan. He just ran the damn thing.

  29. 29.

    Elizabelle

    March 17, 2015 at 8:13 am

    @Sherparick: Never heard of “Wisconsin Death Trip.” It’s a theme begging to be a meme. For people who didn’t learn history the first time around, think they’re “exceptional”, and thus don’t see the dangers of allowing Scott Walker, his ilk, and their funders back into American politics.

    Here’s wiki on how WDT came to be, and later works it inspired (novels, film, story by Stephen King).

    Here’s website for the film.

  30. 30.

    ThresherK

    March 17, 2015 at 8:18 am

    @PurpleGirl: Cat hait in a computer? Yeah, that’s a thing in our home even though we don’t run systems all the time.

    And I’m the designated vacuumer, so I have to nudge myself to get the cat hair on the floor before it migrates towards the CPUs as well as the refrigerator coils.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    March 17, 2015 at 8:22 am

    In partnership with USA Today, Starbucks has launched a week-long campaign under the banner “Race Together” to get staff and customers talking about race. In a video message, Schultz urges “partners” to write the phrase on their paper cups “to facilitate a conversation between you and our customers.” A USA Today supplement, set to be published March 20, includes a number of “conversation starters,” including the fill-in-the-blank question: “In the past year, I have been to the home of someone of a different race ___ times.”

  32. 32.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 17, 2015 at 8:25 am

    @ThresherK: Yes, I replaced the processor. I wanted to bump up the speed a bit and wanted processor based virtualization. I did remove and clean the case fan, as well as the processor fan/heat sink when I did the processor upgrade.

  33. 33.

    Baud

    March 17, 2015 at 8:27 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Is all that much cheaper than buying a new computer?

  34. 34.

    Betty Cracker

    March 17, 2015 at 8:30 am

    @FlyingToaster: It wasn’t just a gig — here’s an excerpt of the article I linked above:

    “I’ve been sober for 24 years now, and one of the best lessons it taught me is to listen,” John told The New York Times. “When it comes to people like Rush Limbaugh, or people who might enrage you sometimes, dialogue is the only way. You have to reach out… Whether you make an impact in one year or 30 years, it doesn’t matter. You have to put your foot in the water and start the process.”

    John and Limbaugh have been friends for a number of years and the the piano great performed at the conservative media personality’s fourth wedding in 2011. John previously spoke out about this performance, saying that he hoped to open a dialogue about queer issues with Limbaugh.

    Elton John chooses to be friends with a hate-filled pustule like Limbaugh, so it seems odd that he’s going after the neanderthal fashionistas.

  35. 35.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 8:30 am

    @Baud: I could have bought a new truck for what I put in my Chevy!

  36. 36.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 8:30 am

    @Betty Cracker: You get my email?

  37. 37.

    Betty Cracker

    March 17, 2015 at 8:31 am

    @Baud: What could possibly go wrong?

  38. 38.

    Betty Cracker

    March 17, 2015 at 8:31 am

    @raven: I didn’t; will check now!

  39. 39.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 17, 2015 at 8:33 am

    @Baud: The processor was about $100 for a 2.8Ghz quad core. I had a problem with the power supply about a year ago, it was $45 for the replacement.

    ETA: When I originally thought about upgrade/purchase new 2 years ago, I did purchase a new machine. This one is the backup now. A new machine of similar specs would probably be arround $450.

  40. 40.

    Baud

    March 17, 2015 at 8:34 am

    @raven:

    Cars and trucks have a design that can’t be replaced. Who cares how a desktop computer is designed?

  41. 41.

    germy shoemangler

    March 17, 2015 at 8:34 am

    The rich are truly different from us. Elton looks decades younger than me, and I think I was eight years old when his first album came out.

    Typing here on a Macbook Pro. Every few days I get the software update alert. Updating stuff by loading hundreds of megabytes into the computer. I read somewhere that eventually the computer slows down from all the updates.

  42. 42.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 8:35 am

    @Baud: Well, all my friends are low-riders

  43. 43.

    Baud

    March 17, 2015 at 8:36 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    OK. Of course, if it were me, I would have spent that plus the cost of a new computer after I screwed up the repair.

  44. 44.

    different-church-lady

    March 17, 2015 at 8:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    THEY are also against gays having children.

    THEY are designers: they’re probably against anyone having children.

  45. 45.

    germy shoemangler

    March 17, 2015 at 8:36 am

    @Betty Cracker: Did it work? Are Fatty Rushbuckle’s eyes open now, after his dialogue with Captain Fantastic?

  46. 46.

    Betty Cracker

    March 17, 2015 at 8:36 am

    @raven: What a wonderful photo!

  47. 47.

    Ben Cisco

    March 17, 2015 at 8:37 am

    Here’s a pre-freakout picture of black Open Carry activists in Tejas: http://t.co/OcCYatjf23.

    Because sure, nothing could possibly go wrong.

  48. 48.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 17, 2015 at 8:37 am

    @raven: There’s some hard earned lessons in that face.

  49. 49.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 8:41 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yea she didn’t look too happy. One of her son’s, Jason was killed at the Battle of Atlanta and the other survived and became a Chicago Fireman. She’s a but happier in this shot (my grandfather is holding the baby) but I suspect coming from Ireland by one’s self in 1854 was no walk in the park.

  50. 50.

    Cervantes

    March 17, 2015 at 8:42 am

    @Botsplainer:

    A lot of it sounds like the same stupid shit you can hear in a county election in East Bumfuck Arkansas.

    Except with a certain nuclear frisson.

  51. 51.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 8:44 am

    @Ben Cisco: There was video of them earlier in the year and one woman had obviously never touched a weapon and it was hilarious watching her try to go to sling arms.

    eta I can’t find it but watch them try to get in formation and do dress right!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLqXYF3ephY

  52. 52.

    Baud

    March 17, 2015 at 8:46 am

    @Betty Cracker: Maybe it will have the salutary effect of uniting the races against Starbucks.

  53. 53.

    different-church-lady

    March 17, 2015 at 8:47 am

    @Cervantes: BOOM goes the pun!

  54. 54.

    Jacks mom

    March 17, 2015 at 8:56 am

    I’m up early training the puppy. Im still in love, but as luck would have it, Mr. Jacks Mom just wants a good dog without actually training said good dog……so it looks like that anniversary present I got him is actually for me ;). I also got a beautiful Jade necklace so I’m thinking win/win.

  55. 55.

    Pogonip

    March 17, 2015 at 9:08 am

    @ThresherK: Me.

  56. 56.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 17, 2015 at 9:11 am

    @raven: Your grandfather in drag? ;-)

    My father’s parents arrived in 1900 and 1904 from Slovenia. Most of their pics have fairly serious faces as well, tho I do remember one of Grandma holding my sister Sue as a baby where she has a smile that could light up the world.

  57. 57.

    Elizabelle

    March 17, 2015 at 9:14 am

    @Baud: A bit heavy-handed.

    I’ll take white guilt, vente.

  58. 58.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 9:17 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Most of the time my mom’s aunt Venus (Du Quoin, Il) looked like this

    but when when she “let her hair down” Little Egypt shook!

  59. 59.

    Elizabelle

    March 17, 2015 at 9:20 am

    @raven: Gives new meaning to “I can’t do ___, I have to wash my hair.”

  60. 60.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 17, 2015 at 9:22 am

    @raven: No wonder she wore it in a bun!

  61. 61.

    Elizabelle

    March 17, 2015 at 9:24 am

    Maybe you discussed this overnight, but stories like this might get the NFL to change their practices.

    From Reuters:

    SAN FRANCISCO — San Francisco 49ers player Chris Borland, a leading rookie last season, is retiring from the NFL over health concerns related to repeated head trauma, ESPN and the team said on Monday.

    “From speaking with Chris, it was evident that he had put a great deal of thought into this decision. He was a consummate professional from day one,” 49ers general manager Trent Baalke said in a statement.

    “While unexpected, we certainly respect Chris’ decision,” Baalke said.

    The 49ers did not specify in its statement why Borland, 24, chose to leave. ESPN reported he was retiring over health concerns related to head trauma, an issue that has rattled the league and prompted a massive lawsuit against the NFL.

    Borland, a linebacker, was a star in his only season with the team, registering a team-high 128 tackles and earning several rookie of the week and month honors.

    “I just want to live a long, healthy life, and I don’t want to have any neurological diseases or die younger than I would otherwise,” Borland told ESPN’s Outside the Lines program, adding that he has no ill will against the team.

  62. 62.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 9:42 am

    @Elizabelle: And what “practices” are that?

  63. 63.

    ThresherK

    March 17, 2015 at 9:45 am

    @Ben Cisco: I also can’t wait to see Larry Wilmore’s take on this. Did not know he had a bus with his pic on it, and am dying to find out the rest of the slogan “It’s like a taco truck…” in the photo.

  64. 64.

    Ben Cisco

    March 17, 2015 at 9:51 am

    @raven: Oh. My. God.

    That ain’t right.

  65. 65.

    raven

    March 17, 2015 at 9:59 am

    @Ben Cisco: The need Bill Murray in there!

    BLOWED UP SUH!

  66. 66.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 17, 2015 at 10:06 am

    @Elizabelle: Anybody who makes it to the top professional level of any sport in this day and age is cognizant of the risks they are taking, probably more so in the NFL than in other sports. This guy looked at the balance, a half-million bucks on one side, and the unknowns on the other, and walked away. Very few others do, and that’s unlikely to change. People in their 20’s more often prioritize short-term gain over long-term unknowns.

    I’m not sure why there’s a big story here. Some guy who was good at his job quit because he didn’t like the risks he was being paid to take.

  67. 67.

    Cervantes

    March 17, 2015 at 10:17 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    This guy looked at the balance, a half-million bucks on one side, and the unknowns on the other, and walked away. Very few others do […] I’m not sure why there’s a big story here.

    Wait — you’re saying his leaving is exceptional and you’re asking why it should be a big story?

  68. 68.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 17, 2015 at 10:23 am

    @Cervantes: Uh, yeah. What’s the problem? Very few people walk away from a career in, say, medicine a year or two in. Some do. That would make it “exceptional.” When one does, is it a front-page story in every newspaper?

  69. 69.

    Amir Khalid

    March 17, 2015 at 10:32 am

    @Gin & Tonic:
    In American football, I gather that is news.

  70. 70.

    Elie

    March 17, 2015 at 11:09 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I hear that! Wow! How totally stupid… both to have those views but then to openly share them without awareness of the potential impact… Lordy, didn’t they pay attention to the Christian Dior designer who blew up his career with anti-gay comments (can’t remember his name)?

    Yeah, it will just take me DAYS to clean out my Dolce and Gabana designs from my closet…

  71. 71.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    March 17, 2015 at 11:10 am

    Too lazy to cook this year, so I went to Gelson’s last night and got two corned beef and cabbage plates (also with potatoes, carrots, a roll, and a small salad). Planning to pick up some soda bread to bring to work, or at least some kind of green snack.

  72. 72.

    J R in WV

    March 17, 2015 at 11:39 am

    @raven:

    You can make potato soup, that sounds Irish! I lurve me some taters.

  73. 73.

    schrodinger's cat

    March 17, 2015 at 11:52 am

    @Elie: That was John Galliano and he made some anti-Semitic comments. I don’t remember exactly what it was that he said.

  74. 74.

    tybee

    March 17, 2015 at 11:54 am

    @ThresherK:

    you need a rubber chicken.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1985-08-12/news/vw-4141_1_rubber-chicken

  75. 75.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 17, 2015 at 11:59 am

    @schrodinger’s cat: He was drunkenly ranting in a restaurant. He “blew up his career” so much that Cate Blanchett wore a dress of his at this year’s Oscar’s.

  76. 76.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 17, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    @Mustang Bobby: Shall I give you my shipping address for the new monitor?

    I’ll be rinsing the brine off the brisket about 5PM. I’m toying with broiled cauliflower that was marinated in coconut milk with red pepper as a side, just to be different.

    @OzarkHillbilly: So they are Log Cabin Designers.

  77. 77.

    Elizabelle

    March 17, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    @raven: Not a football fan, but a few comments:

    (1) Chris Borland’s decision will get attention from current players, but might really find an audience with football moms and dads. If they dissuade their kid from playing, or steer him (or her?) into another sport … much earlier in the pipeline …

    (2) If so many players are getting head injuries and suffering terrible consequences years later, perhaps changing the style of the game? Could football exist without full-on tackle, more of a tag?

    Having cattle-sized humans throw themselves at other humans is sport, I guess, but maybe there’s now an audience for soccer and other sports.

    If you know about the head injuries, and the lifetime debilities that follow a football career, isn’t it that much closer to gladiator combat?

    PS: full disclosure: we’ve got soccer and motocross injuries in the Ebelle family.

  78. 78.

    Elizabelle

    March 17, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Good idea on buying the prepared plates. I might try that. Toying with buying the smallest corned beef I can find; would guess the meat freezes well …

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    March 17, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    @ThresherK

    What’s the opposite of fashion-forward?

    Normal.

  80. 80.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    March 17, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    I discovered while Googling something else that the OUTRAGE OF THE DAY at Twitchy is that Obama is wearing a green tie today and dyed the White House fountain green. Because doesn’t he have more important things to do than pick a slightly different tie?!?11?

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