… And some of them look a lot like vultures. Per the Washington Post, “Jeb Bush’s tie to fugitive goes against business-savvy image he promotes“:
Jeb Bush was a young man building a real estate business in Miami in 1985 when health-care entrepreneur Miguel Recarey Jr. hired him to help locate office space in South Florida.
Bush, then the son of the vice president, later provided another service: opening doors in Washington, where Recarey had mounted an aggressive lobbying effort for a waiver from Medicare rules that would allow his fast-growing company to continue to expand.
Recarey got what he wanted. But two years later, the firm, International Medical Centers, was shut down as regulators searched for millions in missing federal funds. Facing charges of bribery and bilking Medicare, Recarey fled the country to avoid prosecution. He remains a fugitive in Spain, where a court denied U.S. requests for extradition.
The Recarey case illustrates aspects of Bush’s business record that are likely to resurface as he moves closer to a campaign for president. Time and again, he benefited from his family name and connections to land a consulting deal or board membership, sometimes doing business with people and companies that would later run afoul of the law…
Bush’s work with Recarey was one early element in what would become a sprawling business portfolio that he developed before and after his eight years as governor.
He was involved in dozens of businesses, starting in real estate in the 1980s when he joined forces with a politically connected developer, Armando Codina. Bush later established a lucrative consulting practice, becoming part-owner of a professional football team, sitting on corporate boards and, most recently, launching a successful Florida-based investment partnership…
Fifteen years ago, there were rumors that Dubya got first crack at the Oval Office because Jeb had been a little too helpful to various Florida real estate developers who hung onto the evidence. (Nobody ever accused George of doing anything useful for all those cushy “board positions” the Texas business community gifted to their branch of the Bush crime clan.)
This time around, questions were raised as to why “the smarter Bush brother” jumped into the 2016 race so early — wouldn’t it have been more sensible to let the various no-hope pygmies beat each other up at all the interminable Iowa corndog festivals and New Hampshire pie breakfasts? Looks like the answer may be that Jeb’s handlers wanted to get the IOKIYAR mojo working as soon as possible, to give the scandals a chance to fade from the low-info voters’ minds.
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Apart from acknowledging two of the great tragedies of modern American politics — with the Republicans it’s always projection, and we are never going to be rid of the Bush Crime Famly — what’s on the agenda for the evening?
raven
hoop, serious hoop
Baud
Since WaPo was bought by its current owner, its reporting seems to have improved. At least, it seems to be more evenhanded. Have you noticed a difference, AL?
BGinCHI
A rare evening of cocktails (Ward 8) and dinner (Peckish Pig) with friends.
Hope I remember how to do it.
BGinCHI
Also, this delicious fact:
In the first 6 games of the NCAA tournament, 4 teams from Texas lost.
Bitchin’ karma.
raven
@BGinCHI: I’m no SMU fan but that was really really bad.
BGinCHI
@raven: Didn’t see that one. The Baylor meltdown was epic. Hard not to root for GA St. Even for you….
BGinCHI
@raven: Also, seeing UT, Baylor, and SMU lose could have only been more excellent if TCU also went down.
srv
I miss Billy Carter.
Betty Cracker
Jeb is shady as hell, but that’s probably not why the Dumber Bush got first crack at the Oval Office. Jeb lost his first race for FL governor in ’94 and didn’t win until he ran again in ’98. He didn’t assume office until ’99, so he didn’t have the experience under his belt to run for president in 2000.
I’ve occasionally wondered how things might have been different if Jeb had beaten Lawton Chiles in ’94 (it was close) and then ran in 2000 instead of the Shrub. He would have probably done the same stupid shit W did had he won in 2000, but I’m not sure he would have won it. Ah well, no point in speculating.
Baud
@Betty Cracker: Why are you being irresponsible?
BGinCHI
@Betty Cracker: If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.
Cervantes
In the mid-’80s, when former CIA director Bush père was Vice President, Jeb’s now-fugitive associate Recarey was not simply a “health-care entrepreneur” as reported above. His company, International Medical Centers, was not only the largest recipient of federal Medicare dollars, it was also infested with former intelligence operatives.
David Koch
What is great is how Romney is the one leaking these stories.
With Jeb! floundering in the polls, Mittens will keep this up, hoping the party turns to him in desperation.
jl
I am currently writing the most recent episode into The Annals of GOP Outreach.
Rick Perry PAC Staffer: Does God Really Want a Female President?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jamie-johnson-rick-perry-female-president
Perry is a dolt, who makes even Dub and Sarah look brilliant, and his pres hopes are going nowhere, even with the glasses.
But the dogwhistles for HRC are going to offend a lot more people, and for most people, the obligatory walkbacks issued whenever the dogwhistles are not properly pitched are going to mean very little.
JPL
IOKIYR
Tommy
@srv: Oh Billy Beer. I must have been like 12 and saw the beer on a wall on the staircase to my grandparents basement. I asked about it and was told the Presidents brother is a drunk.
BGinCHI
@Tommy: I miss the show “Carter Country.”
Francis
A year ago my mother complained that I was looking a little chunky. So I’ve been slowly grinding off the pounds. Today I looked at the NIH’s BMI calculator and it says that someone who’s 6′ 0″ is still normal weight at 138 pounds! That’s insane! I can accept that I’m still high normal at 180 (still a little pudgy around the middle), but if I lost 40 pounds I’d be skeletal.
Can someone explain how the low end of the BMI Index was calculated? I want to go kick him/her in the ass really hard.
Baud
@Francis: That can’t be right.
Tree With Water
“..and we are never going to be rid of the Bush Crime Family..”.
Imagine though if the democratic party got serious, and decided as a party to remedy that..
David Koch
@JPL: Not this time The Bush name is box office poison.
Baud
@Tree With Water:
I’m not sure even John Lennon could imagine that.
BGinCHI
@Francis: No way that’s right. You are looking at the Runway Models column.
AnneW
Kay, there’s some good news out of Arkansas: a school privatization bill has been pulled for now.
Tree With Water
@Baud: Bravo.
Tommy
@Francis: I am 5’4 and 128 pounds. My parents tell me I need to gain weight. If at your height you were told to come down to my weight I am not sure you’d be alive.
Elizabelle
@Betty Cracker: To this day, I will not say that W “won” the 2000 election.
Never forget the terribly designed butterfly ballot used in Palm Beach County. Over 2,000 Gore votes went to Pat Buchanan by accident. I remember watching TV on election night and — on that very night — Pat B was saying “those aren’t my voters.”
But there is no remedy for a miscast vote, after the fact.
PDF: The Butterfly Did It: the Aberrant vote for Pat Buchanan in Palm Beach County
From the American Political Science Review
Gore would have won Florida, and the election, without any recourse to the wretched Supreme Court, had Palm Beach’s vote gone smoothly.
The hanging chads were theatre.
Gore might have done better by sucking up and relying more on the Big Dog, but Theresa LePore, designer of the butterfly ballot, really f*cked the election. She rolled out a ballot she thought would help her voters, but they did not field test it enough. It was terribly confusing, particularly for elderly voters.
Gore pulled half a million votes more than W nationally, and should have racked up Florida too.
David Koch
Even Bill Kristol is panicking.
Baud
@David Koch: That’s not good. We want him to be confident.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Tommy: That’s the same weight/height i was as a freshman in college. I’ve given up getting back to that weight, then again that was 30+ years ago.
Brachiator
@Cervantes:
What? Wait. What about the free market and private is better than government?
@David Koch:
The forces that control the universe would never do this twice in a row, would they? I mean, I prayed long and hard to have Romney delivered as the GOP candidate last time, and was amply rewarded. To have his lame ass back in the saddle in 2016 would just be too delicious.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: I’ll take what’s given to me, but yeah. The SMU coach bought me a doughnut in college. Larry Brown brought doughnuts for the fans waiting for tickets outside Pauley.
raven
@BGinCHI: I have $$$ vested in UAB and the Georgia State win means I’ll probably have to split the winnings on the biggest upset. First time in 20 years two 14’s have won!
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: That was no goal tend.
Amir Khalid
Somehow, I can’t quite imagine having crooks for business partners counting against a Republican presidential candidate.
I saw Whiplash today. It holds the attention, that’s for sure: it’s been years since I went to a movie and absolutely no one in the audience took out their smartphone to play with. But I wonder, can an instructor get away for so many years with the kind of manipulation and over-the-top abuse that the character Terence Fletcher subjected his students to? It seems to me that the conservatory’s dean of bop, or whoever Fletcher’s boss was, should have become aware of it.
Calouste
@Francis: BMI was designed for measuring populations, not individuals. For a population, funny results at the far ends of the scale even each other out. For individuals, you just have funny results. And using a two-dimensional formula for a three-dimensional body is going to have funny results at the end of the scales, and that doesn’t even have to be the far ends.
Mike E
@raven: I was watching on my smartphone while making my enviro phonecalls… two 14 seeds won and a third came damn close! It’s madness, I tell ya!
Needless to say, my brackets are busted like a fraternity on Twitter.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Actually, I thought it was a foul. As I said, I’ll take what’s given. Go Bruins!
Tommy
@BillinGlendaleCA: There was a time in college, about 25 years ago, I was a 100 pounds heavier. I am really, really anal about my weight. I weigh myself every day. I just don’t know how somebody a foot taller than me is told to weigh about what I weigh.
My parents think I am too skinny. I wear 28 pants. But I have a gut. I am not skin and bones.
Cervantes
@Baud:
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@Baud:
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raven
@Francis: I’m 6’0, 195 and 65 years old. I walked two miles every morning, swim or bike everyday. Haven’t had red meat or alcohol in 21 years and I’m fucking obese according that shit.
Gex
Today is day one of my “getting my shit together, I’ve been “widowed” for two years now, move on” project.
I’ll start, as ever, by making a list.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Tommy: I think the lowest I got down to when I was low carbing was about 140. I’m down from my high of about 200.
Baud
@Tommy:
Doesn’t that make your balls sweat?
Betty Cracker
@Elizabelle: Yeah, it was a perfect storm of thievery and fuck-ups. It’s scary to think that history turns on such axes, but ’tis true.
JustRuss
@Elizabelle: Just for funs, I googled the butterfly ballot, and was reminded that Lieberman was Gore’s VP pick(high on my list of things I’d rather forget, so thanks for that). Cheney already had the asshole vote sewn up, what voters did they think that Lieberman could deliver?
raven
@Mike E: We do a calcutta, 10K pot and I bought UAB for $45. That should pay 5% but the tiebreaker is point spread and that is a tie as well. I suppose they’ll split it but, with my luck, a 15 will win and my “the biggest upset in the first round” will evaporate.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: It’s been a cold winter, with snowballs and the like on Capitol Hill.
Gex
Also I am delighted by the idea of Romney going after Jeb.
BillinGlendaleCA
@JustRuss: Joementum? Maybe purity as a contrast to the Clenis.
BGinCHI
@Baud: Win.
Baud
@Gex:
It would be the most productive thing he’s ever done.
jl
@Brachiator:
” I prayed long and hard to have Romney delivered as the GOP candidate last time, and was amply rewarded. To have his lame ass back in the saddle in 2016 would just be too delicious. ”
Please continue your prayers, do 108 bows every morning and 108 prostrations every night, help each little old lady you see cross the street, and walk around with plenty of change for hungry beggars.
I will do the same.
Elizabelle
The Bushes as “business-savvy?”
The actual word is “crony capitalists.”
Violet
I have a meeting to go to. Tired of dealing with this already and not in the mood. Ugh.
Botsplainer
@David Koch:
Jesus, he’s supposed to be always wrong.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Francis:
It’ll be a bony ass, I’m guessing.
Mike E
@raven: I hope it’ll be higher than an 8 seed…it’s been 30 years since Villanova won in the very first 64 team tourney: They wore white home unis when they played #9 Dayton in their opening game, in Dayton…they beat Michigan, Maryland, North Carolina and (the then-called) Memphis St before playing Georgetown, for the 3rd time that season, beating them in probably the most exciting game of my sports watching life.
Betty Cracker
@Elizabelle: Yep. Even the odious Laura Ingraham gets that:
May she turn out to be as prescient a prophet as the equally odious Ann Coulter was last time.
raven
@Mike E: Illinois was the home team AT Bama Monday in the NIT because of work on the arena in Champaign. I have never been so disgusted with and Illinois team.
jl
Netanyahu’s walkbacks of his reactionary pandering in last days of the Israeli election are interesting. I was going to type ‘amusing’ but that is not really the right word for it.
I had a feeling, and maybe even typed a comment about how, we need to remember that Netanyahu is the kind of politician who will say whatever he needs to say to get through to the next day. Whatever keeps him in power will turn out to be what he really wanted to do all along, so realpolitik will run his policies.
TPM blog says that Netanyahu seriously damaged all the parties to his right (at least, to his right in terms of national security) in his scramble to survive the elections. Will be interesting to see what that does for his wriggle room going forward.
Botsplainer
@raven:
Guy here in the office went to an old money Calcutta last night at a gentlemen’s club (think “Trading Places” club, not a strip joint). Dollar amounts were off the charts insane – thing raised $160,000.00 total. UK was bought for $22,500.00.
I liked the numbers of categories on the percentage splits – there were awards for the biggest loss, combo bets out the wazoo related to who beat you and how far forward they went, etc. so everybody has rooting interests all the way through.
He spent $350.00 buying Coastal Carolina.
Pogonip
@Tommy: So how did you end up losing 100 pounds, and have you written a book about it?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Botsplainer:
That’s a good deal, a lot of shoreline for $350.
raven
@Botsplainer: Yea, I like it way better than the regular brackets but I’ve really been priced out of it by the young lawyers and shit that come not. It’s only a $10K pot but I was fortunate to get 4 teams for under 2 bills. Last year I won $700 by buying the team that lost by the most.
This one in the ATL is more like your example
More than $135,000 and two loaded handguns were seized in the Monday night police raid of an illegal basketball betting game run out of a popular Alpharetta eatery, police said Wednesday.
Twenty-one people were arrested in the bust of the NCAA basketball tournament gambling pool, including eight who were charged with felony commercial gambling and 13 others who were arrested for misdemeanor gambling, police said. The investigation continues, and more charges and arrests are possible.
raven
@Botsplainer: @Botsplainer: Yea, I like it way better than the regular brackets but I’ve really been priced out of it by the young lawyers and shit that come not. It’s only a $10K pot but I was fortunate to get 4 teams for under 2 bills. Last year I won $700 by buying the team that lost by the most.
raven
More than $135,000 and two loaded handguns were seized in the Monday night police raid of an illegal basketball betting game run out of a popular Alpharetta eatery, police said Wednesday.
Pogonip
@Baud: Maybe he can give Cole a few pairs.
raven
I can’t post a link to the story in the Atlanta paper about the big calcutta bust Monday night.
Patricia Kayden
@David Koch: And that would be one hell of a desperation. I don’t know if Queen Ann would subject herself to all you people scrutinizing her finances again.
Mike E
@raven: My Temple plays GWU on Sunday… we was robbed out of going to the Big Dance!
Amir Khalid
@Pogonip:
Tommy’s 5 foot 4 with a 28-inch waist. I don’t think John Cole has lost enough weight yet to fit into trousers that small.
raven
@Mike E: Yup.
Cacti
@jl:
Agree that Bibi would say or do anything to keep his hold on power.
However, I think the last few days were the closest thing you’ll ever see to complete honesty from him. He hates Arabs and has no interest in ending the oppression of the Palestinians. I don’t think he had to act much for those two positions, as he was speaking straight from his pitch black heart.
Germy Shoemangler
@Patricia Kayden: But we didn’t scrutinize them the first time, did we? How much did he release?
I think we found out about the tax-deductible horse therapy. Maybe she’s pissed about that. “None of your business!”
Mike in NC
The new show “American Crime” is on tonight, but to my knowledge none of the characters is named Bush.
The shenanigans the Bush family got away with in Florida in 2000 were something most people in this country expect to take place only in deeply corrupt Third World places. The media was basically MIA.
raven
@Mike in NC: One of them is the guy that called goal tending against SMU!
Germy Shoemangler
@Cacti: And he sounded like every republican politician complaining about blah people being bussed in by liberal groups to invade the polling places.
That point has been made before, here and elsewhere, but it’s worth repeating.
bemused
@jl:
I know Republican women not what I would consider wingnutty who would be mightily pissed off by that statement.
jl
@Cacti: You are probably right. But he will swallow his own racism and hatred for power.
So far I think the bland and ingenuous manner of Obama’s reaction is good. Glad Obama called and gave congratulations, with some appropriate diplomatic commentary on the apparently very difficult excruciating decisions the US faces now, wrt, for example, some possible UN votes.
Wonder if some more pointed backchannel comments prompted Netanyahu’s very quick backpeddling.
Patricia Kayden
@Betty Cracker: Yet Ingraham and her ilk support voter suppression laws which could hinder minorities from voting in the first place — for any party.
raven
VCU los choke el grande!
Mike E
@bemused: The binders will fall from their eyes.
jl
@bemused: But surely all will be forgiven for any GOP nominee, when comments like that are declared to have been misunderstood a day later. Right?
Baud
@Pogonip:
I think the pants should go to someone who would use them.
Tree With Water
@Elizabelle: “Get over it”… ha,ha..
Patricia Kayden
@Germy Shoemangler: Well whatever you people did was enough to infuriate Queen Ann. The White House would probably be a downgrade for her.
Betty Cracker
@Patricia Kayden: Naturally. It’s all about how it looks to Ingraham, Coulter, et al. They don’t dislike Jeb for his plutocrat-friendly policies; after all, they are highly paid servants of the plutocrats themselves. They just don’t want to lose.
Violet
@bemused:
And this is exactly why some of those Republican women will vote for Hillary. The anti-woman stuff will be coming from all directions. From loud and proud to dogwhistles to whispers. Women have been hearing it their whole lives but when it’s coming from men over and over again. Well…don’t think it won’t get heard. It isn’t going to do them any favors.
trollhattan
@Amir Khalid:
The wags are thinking the 28th pair have got to be pretty close to Cole-sized. I believe Dr. Seuss wrote a book about a multitude of hats….
WereBear
@David Koch: I haz a happy!
bemused
@jl:
So true, the tribal system is just too strong.
Mike E
@raven: Director of officials said it was the right call.. it was assumed to make it to the basket, though not actually go in it.
Germy Shoemangler
I’m not sure who I found more inauthentic: Ann Romney or Callista Gingrich. They both sort of remind me of the martian lady in “Mars Attacks”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDAaTzccCik
trollhattan
Speaking of protecting the plutocrats, this seemed par for the (golf) course.
WereBear
@Gex: Well, it takes a while. Damn.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Patricia Kayden:
The living quarters are rather small, and it’s public housing.
@Violet: Carly 2016! Halprin was saying she was thought of well in their focus groups of Rethug women. Then again, I know, Halprin.
jl
@bemused: Maybe for most committed wingnut GOP women. I don’t think so for anyone else. And I think a few loud and proud wingnut GOP women may have a forever secret oopsie in the voting booth, if this keeps up. Especially if HRC is running.
Violet
@BillinGlendaleCA: Demon sheep Carly? Oh yeah. She’ll do great.
Mike E
@Germy Shoemangler: In defense of Callista, though, she was lobbying Newt pretty hard for a moon colony.
Germy Shoemangler
@Mike E: She wanted to live among her people?
mdblanche
So the President has finally called Netanyahu to congratulate him on winning a plurality.
“So that’s a really interesting election system you got. Very different from ours. I remember the time I ran for the Senate and won the biggest landslide in Illinois history. My opponent got a slightly larger share of the vote than you did.”
trollhattan
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Lady Ann would take a page directly from the Book of Nancy Reagan and declare the White House “a firetrap” and instead live in a REALLY fine donor-supplied home. If Willard actually deigned to live there, I’d start a pool as to when the giant angel Moroni statue would be installed atop the WH.
bemused
@Violet:
The drip, drip, drip will drive some of them to do that. Only for Hillary though. I can’t imagine many of the fed up voting for any other Dem, male or female.
bemused
@Mike E:
Good one.
dmbeaster
@Elizabelle: Even more devastating was the removal of tens of thousands of minorities from the voter rolls for various nefarious reasons. Its what Jeb did that really won the State for his brother.
jl
@Violet: We Californians were way too cosmopolitan and sophisticated to fall for demon sheep. But all you rubes out in flyover country? And with a bigger budget for CGI demon sheep? Oh hell yeah, that commercial be a winner.
Oh, hell yeah… for sure… it’ll work. Be the greatest thing since flying toasters or new coke or coke zero. Even better than Zima!
Patrick
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Halperin lost any credibilty he may have had with his childish remark about President Obama.
bemused
@jl:
That I could believe. A liberal friend told me about an older couple she knew. He was very Republican and his wife whispered quietly to my friend that she voted Dem. Hubby didn’t know. Makes me smile every time I think of that.
BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan: I visited the “Firetrap” back in the 70’s.
Mike E
@Germy Shoemangler: My GOS sig line is a Tom Hanks quip on that very subject:
Citizen #6 on Moon Base Callista
trollhattan
@Violet: Dem ad campaign: each day, another HP employee shares his/her thoughts of Carly Fiorina. There’s corporate experience and there’s corporate incompetence. It would be open season. “Let a thousand Benghazis rain.”
Germy Shoemangler
@dmbeaster: Lots of them were innocent people with the same last names as people with records. I think it was sorted out after the election. Maybe not.
bemused
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Carly is vile. She makes my hair stand on end.
BillinGlendaleCA
@bemused: But, she’s run a bidness (into the ground).
trollhattan
@BillinGlendaleCA:
My kid went on the tour, probably grade 4 or so. Loved it, especially the stories of the Brown kids’ hijinks (evidently, before the Jesuits got hold of Jerry).
Tree With Water
@trollhattan: @jl: The United States need only take him at his own word, to justify a major pivot in our policies vis a vis the state of Israel. I for one think we should avail ourselves of the opportunity.
Turgidson
@Germy Shoemangler:
I actually found Ann to be authentic in her elitism and insularity. Other than her “I’m a woman so women should vote GOP” convention snoozer, she didn’t really try to be anything but an insulated snob.
BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan: Either Nancy or Patty painted the toenails on the base of the tub with red nail polish.
Turgidson
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Halperin: “Devastating ad highlighting how Fiorina ran HP into the ground is good news for…Carly Fiorina!”
Germy Shoemangler
@Turgidson: In the “Mars Attacks” clip I linked above, is Martin Short playing a character based on the “Clinton Guy Shocked By Blowjobs”?
WaterGirl
@jl: I was really happy to see someone from the Obama Administration saying something like “you can’t unring that bell”.
I would love to see us stop blocking the UN recognition of Palestine.
I would bet that President Obama hates being lied to, hates having his time wasted, and hates being disrespected. Bibi had gotten himself a hat trick, and I hope the president finds a way to crush him.
It’s time for someone to post the link to the interview where the presidents ends with “I will crush them”.
Chris T.
@David Koch: Huh … is it the case that the Rmoney’s have decided that to fulfill the White Horse prophecy, someone must come to them and beg for Mitt to run?
David Koch
@WaterGirl: http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2011/12/then-i-will-crush-them.html
WaterGirl
@David Koch: Thanks for that! I watched the clip just now – it always make me feel better. This time I bookmarked it. :-)
Turgidson
@Germy Shoemangler:
That seems like a possibility, I think.
Betty Cracker
@WaterGirl: Most of the Democrats in Congress are reflexively servile to Israel. I doubt very much PBO will overtly smack Netanyahu down, as satisfying as that might be for us onlookers. Instead, he’ll be the grownup (as usual) and allow Netanyahu’s insulting behavior and indefensible remarks give Democrats the excuse they need to prevent Congress from vetoing an agreement with Iran.
Villago Delenda Est
@raven: Which demonstrates conclusively that it is, indeed, shit.
divF
@trollhattan:
The old CA governor’s mansion was well-known to be a firetrap long before Gov. Reagan. When Earl Warren was governor in the late 40’s, Joan Didion went to the same high school as one of the Warren daughters. In her essay in “The White Album”, Didion quotes the persistent warning, “no smoking above the third floor. Mrs. Warren says” because of the fire hazard.
ETA: I highly recommend that essay, and in fact the whole collection.
JPL
@Turgidson: I don’t know. She came across as ignorant about the lives of others, when she said that he they had to sell stock to get by while Mitt was in college.
Patrick
@Betty Cracker:
It says a lot about the Democratic party representatives in Congress if they are going to override Obama’s veto on the Iran deal.
Tree With Water
@WaterGirl: There was a Roman- whose name escapes me- who ended his every address to the Roman senate by saying, “Carthage must be destroyed”. I say congressional democrats should substitute ‘the republican party’ for Carthage, and from here on out end every address on their respective floors with that appeal.
Roger Moore
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Only if she sticks with the same people who made the Demon Sheep ad.
Iowa Old Lady
@Gex: Go you. Also, lists are always my tactic of choice.
JPL
@BillinGlendaleCA: Her claim to fame is Hewlett Packard. How’d they perform under her leadership. I don’t get it.
Litlebritdifrnt
I had a really shitty day in court. The Chief District Court Judge insisted on trying a case against our client before my boss could get there. Our client was a 17 year old girl. She was terrified. Background, the ADAs told me they had all their witnesses there even though it was clear that they only had one of the five they needed to try the case. Right before they called the cases for trial they took a dismissal of the five charges that they didn’t have witnesses for and proceeded with the one misdemeanor that they did have the witness for. My boss was not in court because we had been waiting for them to have the witnesses present. Talk about drive by justice. Judge found her guilty and we appealed. The Judge (who has been a friend of mine for 20 years) told me off for practicing law without a license when I told our client to plead not guilty before the boss got there. He actually called me up to the bench and said “what the hell is going on”? I tried to tell him that my boss was on the way but he insisted on going ahead with the trial anyway. These people are going to give me a heart attack.
Xantar
Oh this isn’t good.
Missing black man in Mississippi found hanging from a tree.
WaterGirl
@Tree With Water: Sounds like a good idea to me.
Roger Moore
@Litlebritdifrnt:
Isn’t that what people used to describe as being railroaded? Is there any chance of charging the judge with misconduct?
JPL
@Xantar: I saw that earlier and I am embarrassed to say this, but I hope that it was suicide. May he rip
raven
Ya’ll see Coach Hunter fall out of his chair after his son hit the three than won the game?
He ruptured his achilles Sunday while celebrating their conference game and now this!
Mike E
That Ellis kid no longer wants to be there…flagrant 2.
WaterGirl
@Xantar: I saw that earlier and thought “so we’ve come full circle to the point where it’s acceptable to lynch black people again?”. The thought makes me sick to my stomach.
Villago Delenda Est
@Litlebritdifrnt:
I’d skip the house in Hackensack, too.
raven
@Mike E: I remember them and all Huggins loudmouth shit when they tried to get rough with the Ilini. We ran their asses out of the gym.
Peale
@Amir Khalid: I did not like that film, but I think I might be the only one. I feel strange. An outcast man of no taste. Although the best supporting actor nod was earned, I could not figure out why critics were so excited to watch the same charlie Parker story repeated.
JPL
@WaterGirl: That’s why I hoped it was suicide. It’s horrible.
Boston.com has a story about a NH 4th grade class trying to introduce a bill to make the red tail hawk the state raptor bird. link A representative got up and said it was better suited for planned parenthood because the way they tear open their prey. He then explained that he had first amendment rights of free speech. wtf..
Litlebritdifrnt
@Roger Moore:
My boss is pissed as you can imagine and is not going to let this go. As it turns out he is the sixth lawyer that he has done this to. I think it is about time someone fought back. The good news is that our client was a little tiger on the stand and she really stood up for herself even though she was in tears the entire time. The stupid part is the court asks all defendants if they want to waive their rights to counsel all day and every day and yet this Judge made our client try a case without waiving her right to counsel. Stupid.
Betty Cracker
@Patrick: I screwed up my comment; what I meant to say is that I think Obama will use Netanyahu’s awful behavior to rally the Dems to sustain his veto. But yeah, it sucks that it took Netanyahu acting like a toddler to make that a possibility. Spineless, ass-kissing jackwagons, the lot of them.
WaterGirl
@JPL: I am rapidly concluding that virtually all elected Republicans are sociopaths. Seriously.
TS
@David Koch:
A real worry if Kristol thinks a dem can win – he is ALWAYS wrong
JPL
@WaterGirl: It’s their first amendment right though. I’m so glad that we got rid of political correctness because it allowed these assholes to come out of the closet.
opiejeanne
@Tommy: I’m 5’3″ and remember being told I was overweight when I weighed what you weigh. I was not overweight, I was just not a teenager any more; I was in my late 20s, had had a baby, and my hips had decided to make an appearance. Really, I wish I weighed 145 right now.
Calouste
@BillinGlendaleCA: You’re not giving Fiorina the credit she deserves: she ran two businesses into the ground, although they were so good at cooking the books at Lucent that she managed to escape to HP before that all came to light.
JPL
For those watching the ncaa tournament, please explain the coke ad to me. I think our world is really on fire.
WereBear
@Calouste: Republicans are the people who meet their doctor at the Club and they all get drunk out of their gourds and then they consult the doctor professionally when they get sick.
Risk! It’s a way of life!
Redshift
@bemused: My favorite event like that from 2008 was the woman who stopped by the Dem table at our polling place and told us that she and her friends were Republicans who had worked in the Reagan Administration, and they were all voting for Obama.
mai naem mobile
I just want to point out that Rick Scott an executive at the co..involved in the largest Medicare settlement ever for wrondoing, is currently governor of Floriduh. Granted Floriduh is Floriduh and it is not the USA but still they elected Rick Scott.
Ruckus
@Francis: Former co-worker is 6’10” and weighs 180. He doesn’t look like a stick at all.
JPL
@mai naem mobile: Even though some disagreed, IOKIYR. Sad but true.
As far as Jeb goes, only other repubs can attack him. I’m not saying he will win, because it will be difficult for a repub to win the general election.
Corner Stone
@Ruckus:
Bullshit. 6’10” and 180 is a scarecrow.
JPL
@Ruckus: Some are just big boned. I remember a cat that graced our presence that was just big boned. rip tunch
raven
Harvard makin a run at Carolina.
Corner Stone
@Mike E:
He threw that forearm and I was like, “WTF?”. “You can’t do that shit.”
Just about the same time the announcers said similar.
Turgidson
@JPL:
Agreed, that was her one attempt that I can recall where she tried to convince us that she’s “just like us” – but still, she was authentic in her ignorance in that that’s who she really is.
Corner Stone
Game over, man. Game over.
JPL
@Corner Stone: what game I’m watching purdue and cinci
Corner Stone
I’ve been anti-Cincy since K-Mart days but that kid who got ejected needs to take a good long look at his stupid ass self.
Corner Stone
@JPL: Yep, that game. Over.
Corner Stone
Ohhhh!!!
JPL
I still have 7 seconds
raven
@Corner Stone: Man that kid from Harvard should have gone to the rack, there was no one near him. Shame.
raven
@JPL: Harvard NC probably.
Corner Stone
@JPL: WOOOOO!!!
raven
Damn, roll on the rim much! JUST!
JPL
so perdue/cincy isn’t over
raven
@JPL: OT
Corner Stone
@JPL: If Perdue loses this game their coach should box up his junk and drive off with the lights off until he clears the county line.
raven
@Corner Stone: Purdue, Perdue is chicken.
raven
@Corner Stone: You know Bruce Hornsby’s kid is on LSU?
Corner Stone
@raven: whatever, I just got through rewinding that nasty post up drop step for my son about a zillion times.
Corner Stone
@raven: That’s just the way it is.
raven
@Corner Stone: He walked didn’t he?
JPL
@Corner Stone: If you really don’t care who wins, this is a great o.t.
ms_canadada
@Gex: Widow for 2.5 weeks. It’s so hard.
raven
@JPL: This slate of games has taken the sting out of the Illini quitting.
Corner Stone
@raven: Hell no. Power dribble.
All bless Hakeem.
JPL
Wow.. I change my mind.. what sloppy ball playing
Corner Stone
Airball?!
raven
Jesus this some sloppy shit.
Botsplainer
Jesus, this is sloppy ball.
Bets on double OT?
raven
@Botsplainer: If it takes a 3 by the Boilers? I’ll take that for a Fresca.
Botsplainer
Purdue could gut this out.
Botsplainer
Not a lot of clock burnt on the inbound.
JPL
@Botsplainer: hahahahahahah
Botsplainer
Cincinnati got lucky.
raven
@Botsplainer: That sucked and I don’t even care.
Corner Stone
Nice moving screen to clear that.
Botsplainer
@Corner Stone:
Rule follower…
raven
@Botsplainer: Except on walks.
Gex
@ms_canadada: I’m so sorry. Lots of love and hugs to you.
I’m just so sorry.
raven
Hold down the fort.
Corner Stone
@raven: You walk your doggie!
/Pacino
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@ms_canadada: I’m so very sorry for your loss.
@Gex: I’m sorry for your loss as well; we know how much Kate meant to you and how difficult the details of the aftermath have been.
raven
@Corner Stone: Already did, in the cold ass rain!
Ruckus
@JPL:
I seem to recall lord and master Cole telling us once that Tunch was heavy enough and normally lackadaisical enough to be useful as a paperweight. A grand paperweight to be sure.
JPL
@ms_canadada: I am so sorry. I can’t imagine how you are feeling but do know there are hugs being sent your way.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@raven: Cold ass rain here, too. Sloppy hoops tonight.
JPL
@Ruckus: I still miss him.
Ruckus
@Gex:
@ms_canadada:
Can not imagine how hard this is for both of you.
Corner Stone
Mmmm…women’s curling…
Corner Stone
What’s the spread for the UK game? +25?
Ruckus
@JPL:
Funny isn’t it. Not our cat, never even saw him in person and we still think about him. Some animals(and human animals!) just hit you the right way and you like them. Frequently you can’t even tell why, you just do. Tunch was one of those.
Botsplainer
@Corner Stone:
True cat haters are pinning their hopes on a first round upset.
Failing that, they hope for a vacated season and asterisks.
JPL
@Ruckus: I hope John sees that comment because it so true.
Corner Stone
@Botsplainer: It’s just the way it is in recent years. A bunch of AAU recruiters getting paid to put a one year team together, year after year.
UNC in 2009 started it as the proto model.
Zinsky
Sorry to interrupt the basketball discussion to get back to the topic of the thread, but the Bush family has always exploited its name and patrician connections to get in on too-good-to-be-true business deals. From Grandpa Prescott arming the Nazi war machine (here), to Dubya getting to buy into a piece of a Major League Baseball team for virtually no money down (here) to the current asshole, Jeb and his highly questionable business investments, these dysfunctional criminal rat bastards have milked their fame worse than the Kardashians!!
Corner Stone
@Zinsky:
Not a problem. Actually I appreciate you pointing out what a fucking disgrace it is that this thread had to be reworked into an NCAA Tourny thread. Fucking disgraceful.
Thanks!
JPL
@Corner Stone: lol
Matt McIrvin
Some of my white dude progressive friends on Google+ are going on and on about how they’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton and you shouldn’t either. They’re gonna vote Green or not vote. One of them was into Rand Paul a while back. Another likes to proudly talk about how he never votes at all.
This is gonna be a long year and half.
ms_canadada
@Gex: Thank you. I see him everywhere.
ms_canadada
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Thank you. Suicide leaves an ache that is almost unbearable.
ms_canadada
@JPL: Thank you. Never saw myself in this state.
Tree With Water
On cable station AHC, I just watched the famous film footage of the attack on the USS Arizona in digitalized form. The result is an astonishingly detailed, split seconds perspective of the death of the great warship, inclusive of the bomb strikes dropped by the squadron that missed, and the 10 foot tidal wave that was created and crashed into Ford Island. The show is listed as Pearl Harbor Declassified, and while I just caught the final twenty minutes, I highly recommend it.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Tree With Water:
On again at 1:00 a.m. EDT (American History Channel).
Tree With Water
@Matt McIrvin: A long year and half? You’re an optimist, aren’t you? Someone, or more like two or three or even four wannabes are even now plotting their 2020 campaign strategy. Presidential campaigns and campaigning will be a 24-7-365 day a year enterprise from here on out, and there ain’t nuttin youz can do about it..
J R in WV
@ms_canadada: I am so sorry for your loss, our loss.
Hang in there, it does get better!
The crowd here will always be willing to talk, especially in the late at night, there’s almost always someone talking about some silly and stupid things at 3 am, and willing to talk to you too, about whatever.
The Fat Kate Middleton
@Betty Cracker: I’m retired, and looking for something to do. I have experience in research and communication – I would LOVE to engage in oppo research re Jeb(!). Somebody call me.
Ruckus
@ms_canadada:
Wow that is tough. I worked on a hotline decades ago and we dealt with this. As @J R in WV: said many of us are night owls and some of the night owls live on the left coast so our late really is. Don’t know if we can be of any help but if you just need to chat, let us know.
opiejeanne
@ms_canadada: I’m so sorry to hear it. I’m not sure how I’d cope if my husband leaves first.
opiejeanne
@ms_canadada: I think, I’m not sure, but I think that makes it even harder to deal with, and you’re still in shock. The hurt is still raw.
It will get better but that just sounds like empty words right now. I know it gets better because it has to.