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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Open Thread: Jeb’s Business Chickens Are Coming Home to Roost

Open Thread: Jeb’s Business Chickens Are Coming Home to Roost

by Anne Laurie|  March 19, 20155:50 pm| 231 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Republican Crime Syndicate - aka the Bush Admin.

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… And some of them look a lot like vultures. Per the Washington Post, “Jeb Bush’s tie to fugitive goes against business-savvy image he promotes“:

Jeb Bush was a young man building a real estate business in Miami in 1985 when health-care entrepreneur Miguel Recarey Jr. hired him to help locate office space in South Florida.

Bush, then the son of the vice president, later provided another service: opening doors in Washington, where Recarey had mounted an aggressive lobbying effort for a waiver from Medicare rules that would allow his fast-growing company to continue to expand.

Recarey got what he wanted. But two years later, the firm, International Medical Centers, was shut down as regulators searched for millions in missing federal funds. Facing charges of bribery and bilking Medicare, Recarey fled the country to avoid prosecution. He remains a fugitive in Spain, where a court denied U.S. requests for extradition.

The Recarey case illustrates aspects of Bush’s business record that are likely to resurface as he moves closer to a campaign for president. Time and again, he benefited from his family name and connections to land a consulting deal or board membership, sometimes doing business with people and companies that would later run afoul of the law…

Bush’s work with Recarey was one early element in what would become a sprawling business portfolio that he developed before and after his eight years as governor.

He was involved in dozens of businesses, starting in real estate in the 1980s when he joined forces with a politically connected developer, Armando Codina. Bush later established a lucrative consulting practice, becoming part-owner of a professional football team, sitting on corporate boards and, most recently, launching a successful Florida-based investment partnership…

Fifteen years ago, there were rumors that Dubya got first crack at the Oval Office because Jeb had been a little too helpful to various Florida real estate developers who hung onto the evidence. (Nobody ever accused George of doing anything useful for all those cushy “board positions” the Texas business community gifted to their branch of the Bush crime clan.)

This time around, questions were raised as to why “the smarter Bush brother” jumped into the 2016 race so early — wouldn’t it have been more sensible to let the various no-hope pygmies beat each other up at all the interminable Iowa corndog festivals and New Hampshire pie breakfasts? Looks like the answer may be that Jeb’s handlers wanted to get the IOKIYAR mojo working as soon as possible, to give the scandals a chance to fade from the low-info voters’ minds.
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Apart from acknowledging two of the great tragedies of modern American politics — with the Republicans it’s always projection, and we are never going to be rid of the Bush Crime Famly — what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    hoop, serious hoop

  2. 2.

    Baud

    March 19, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    Since WaPo was bought by its current owner, its reporting seems to have improved. At least, it seems to be more evenhanded. Have you noticed a difference, AL?

  3. 3.

    BGinCHI

    March 19, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    A rare evening of cocktails (Ward 8) and dinner (Peckish Pig) with friends.

    Hope I remember how to do it.

  4. 4.

    BGinCHI

    March 19, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    Also, this delicious fact:

    In the first 6 games of the NCAA tournament, 4 teams from Texas lost.

    Bitchin’ karma.

  5. 5.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    @BGinCHI: I’m no SMU fan but that was really really bad.

  6. 6.

    BGinCHI

    March 19, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    @raven: Didn’t see that one. The Baylor meltdown was epic. Hard not to root for GA St. Even for you….

  7. 7.

    BGinCHI

    March 19, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    @raven: Also, seeing UT, Baylor, and SMU lose could have only been more excellent if TCU also went down.

  8. 8.

    srv

    March 19, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    I miss Billy Carter.

  9. 9.

    Betty Cracker

    March 19, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    Jeb is shady as hell, but that’s probably not why the Dumber Bush got first crack at the Oval Office. Jeb lost his first race for FL governor in ’94 and didn’t win until he ran again in ’98. He didn’t assume office until ’99, so he didn’t have the experience under his belt to run for president in 2000.

    I’ve occasionally wondered how things might have been different if Jeb had beaten Lawton Chiles in ’94 (it was close) and then ran in 2000 instead of the Shrub. He would have probably done the same stupid shit W did had he won in 2000, but I’m not sure he would have won it. Ah well, no point in speculating.

  10. 10.

    Baud

    March 19, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Why are you being irresponsible?

  11. 11.

    BGinCHI

    March 19, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    @Betty Cracker: If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.

  12. 12.

    Cervantes

    March 19, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    In the mid-’80s, when former CIA director Bush père was Vice President, Jeb’s now-fugitive associate Recarey was not simply a “health-care entrepreneur” as reported above. His company, International Medical Centers, was not only the largest recipient of federal Medicare dollars, it was also infested with former intelligence operatives.

  13. 13.

    David Koch

    March 19, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    What is great is how Romney is the one leaking these stories.

    With Jeb! floundering in the polls, Mittens will keep this up, hoping the party turns to him in desperation.

  14. 14.

    jl

    March 19, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    I am currently writing the most recent episode into The Annals of GOP Outreach.

    Rick Perry PAC Staffer: Does God Really Want a Female President?
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jamie-johnson-rick-perry-female-president

    Perry is a dolt, who makes even Dub and Sarah look brilliant, and his pres hopes are going nowhere, even with the glasses.
    But the dogwhistles for HRC are going to offend a lot more people, and for most people, the obligatory walkbacks issued whenever the dogwhistles are not properly pitched are going to mean very little.

  15. 15.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    IOKIYR

  16. 16.

    Tommy

    March 19, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    @srv: Oh Billy Beer. I must have been like 12 and saw the beer on a wall on the staircase to my grandparents basement. I asked about it and was told the Presidents brother is a drunk.

  17. 17.

    BGinCHI

    March 19, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    @Tommy: I miss the show “Carter Country.”

  18. 18.

    Francis

    March 19, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    A year ago my mother complained that I was looking a little chunky. So I’ve been slowly grinding off the pounds. Today I looked at the NIH’s BMI calculator and it says that someone who’s 6′ 0″ is still normal weight at 138 pounds! That’s insane! I can accept that I’m still high normal at 180 (still a little pudgy around the middle), but if I lost 40 pounds I’d be skeletal.

    Can someone explain how the low end of the BMI Index was calculated? I want to go kick him/her in the ass really hard.

  19. 19.

    Baud

    March 19, 2015 at 6:19 pm

    @Francis: That can’t be right.

  20. 20.

    Tree With Water

    March 19, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    “..and we are never going to be rid of the Bush Crime Family..”.

    Imagine though if the democratic party got serious, and decided as a party to remedy that..

  21. 21.

    David Koch

    March 19, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    @JPL: Not this time The Bush name is box office poison.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    March 19, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    @Tree With Water:

    I’m not sure even John Lennon could imagine that.

  23. 23.

    BGinCHI

    March 19, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    @Francis: No way that’s right. You are looking at the Runway Models column.

  24. 24.

    AnneW

    March 19, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    Kay, there’s some good news out of Arkansas: a school privatization bill has been pulled for now.

  25. 25.

    Tree With Water

    March 19, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    @Baud: Bravo.

  26. 26.

    Tommy

    March 19, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    @Francis: I am 5’4 and 128 pounds. My parents tell me I need to gain weight. If at your height you were told to come down to my weight I am not sure you’d be alive.

  27. 27.

    Elizabelle

    March 19, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    @Betty Cracker: To this day, I will not say that W “won” the 2000 election.

    Never forget the terribly designed butterfly ballot used in Palm Beach County. Over 2,000 Gore votes went to Pat Buchanan by accident. I remember watching TV on election night and — on that very night — Pat B was saying “those aren’t my voters.”

    But there is no remedy for a miscast vote, after the fact.

    PDF: The Butterfly Did It: the Aberrant vote for Pat Buchanan in Palm Beach County

    From the American Political Science Review

    Gore would have won Florida, and the election, without any recourse to the wretched Supreme Court, had Palm Beach’s vote gone smoothly.

    The hanging chads were theatre.

    Gore might have done better by sucking up and relying more on the Big Dog, but Theresa LePore, designer of the butterfly ballot, really f*cked the election. She rolled out a ballot she thought would help her voters, but they did not field test it enough. It was terribly confusing, particularly for elderly voters.

    Gore pulled half a million votes more than W nationally, and should have racked up Florida too.

  28. 28.

    David Koch

    March 19, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    Even Bill Kristol is panicking.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    March 19, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    @David Koch: That’s not good. We want him to be confident.

  30. 30.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    @Tommy: That’s the same weight/height i was as a freshman in college. I’ve given up getting back to that weight, then again that was 30+ years ago.

  31. 31.

    Brachiator

    March 19, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    @Cervantes:

    His company, International Medical Centers, was not only the largest recipient of federal Medicare dollars

    What? Wait. What about the free market and private is better than government?
    @David Koch:

    With Jeb! floundering in the polls, Mittens will keep this up, hoping the party turns to him in desperation.

    The forces that control the universe would never do this twice in a row, would they? I mean, I prayed long and hard to have Romney delivered as the GOP candidate last time, and was amply rewarded. To have his lame ass back in the saddle in 2016 would just be too delicious.

  32. 32.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    @raven: I’ll take what’s given to me, but yeah. The SMU coach bought me a doughnut in college. Larry Brown brought doughnuts for the fans waiting for tickets outside Pauley.

  33. 33.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    @BGinCHI: I have $$$ vested in UAB and the Georgia State win means I’ll probably have to split the winnings on the biggest upset. First time in 20 years two 14’s have won!

  34. 34.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: That was no goal tend.

  35. 35.

    Amir Khalid

    March 19, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    Somehow, I can’t quite imagine having crooks for business partners counting against a Republican presidential candidate.

    I saw Whiplash today. It holds the attention, that’s for sure: it’s been years since I went to a movie and absolutely no one in the audience took out their smartphone to play with. But I wonder, can an instructor get away for so many years with the kind of manipulation and over-the-top abuse that the character Terence Fletcher subjected his students to? It seems to me that the conservatory’s dean of bop, or whoever Fletcher’s boss was, should have become aware of it.

  36. 36.

    Calouste

    March 19, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    @Francis: BMI was designed for measuring populations, not individuals. For a population, funny results at the far ends of the scale even each other out. For individuals, you just have funny results. And using a two-dimensional formula for a three-dimensional body is going to have funny results at the end of the scales, and that doesn’t even have to be the far ends.

  37. 37.

    Mike E

    March 19, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    @raven: I was watching on my smartphone while making my enviro phonecalls… two 14 seeds won and a third came damn close! It’s madness, I tell ya!

    Needless to say, my brackets are busted like a fraternity on Twitter.

  38. 38.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    @raven: Actually, I thought it was a foul. As I said, I’ll take what’s given. Go Bruins!

  39. 39.

    Tommy

    March 19, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: There was a time in college, about 25 years ago, I was a 100 pounds heavier. I am really, really anal about my weight. I weigh myself every day. I just don’t know how somebody a foot taller than me is told to weigh about what I weigh.

    My parents think I am too skinny. I wear 28 pants. But I have a gut. I am not skin and bones.

  40. 40.

    Cervantes

    March 19, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    @Baud:

    !

    @Baud:

    !

  41. 41.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    @Francis: I’m 6’0, 195 and 65 years old. I walked two miles every morning, swim or bike everyday. Haven’t had red meat or alcohol in 21 years and I’m fucking obese according that shit.

  42. 42.

    Gex

    March 19, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    Today is day one of my “getting my shit together, I’ve been “widowed” for two years now, move on” project.

    I’ll start, as ever, by making a list.

  43. 43.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    @Tommy: I think the lowest I got down to when I was low carbing was about 140. I’m down from my high of about 200.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    March 19, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    @Tommy:

    I wear 28 pants

    Doesn’t that make your balls sweat?

  45. 45.

    Betty Cracker

    March 19, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    @Elizabelle: Yeah, it was a perfect storm of thievery and fuck-ups. It’s scary to think that history turns on such axes, but ’tis true.

  46. 46.

    JustRuss

    March 19, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    @Elizabelle: Just for funs, I googled the butterfly ballot, and was reminded that Lieberman was Gore’s VP pick(high on my list of things I’d rather forget, so thanks for that). Cheney already had the asshole vote sewn up, what voters did they think that Lieberman could deliver?

  47. 47.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    @Mike E: We do a calcutta, 10K pot and I bought UAB for $45. That should pay 5% but the tiebreaker is point spread and that is a tie as well. I suppose they’ll split it but, with my luck, a 15 will win and my “the biggest upset in the first round” will evaporate.

  48. 48.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    @Baud: It’s been a cold winter, with snowballs and the like on Capitol Hill.

  49. 49.

    Gex

    March 19, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Also I am delighted by the idea of Romney going after Jeb.

  50. 50.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    @JustRuss: Joementum? Maybe purity as a contrast to the Clenis.

  51. 51.

    BGinCHI

    March 19, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    @Baud: Win.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    March 19, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    @Gex:

    It would be the most productive thing he’s ever done.

  53. 53.

    jl

    March 19, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    @Brachiator:

    ” I prayed long and hard to have Romney delivered as the GOP candidate last time, and was amply rewarded. To have his lame ass back in the saddle in 2016 would just be too delicious. ”

    Please continue your prayers, do 108 bows every morning and 108 prostrations every night, help each little old lady you see cross the street, and walk around with plenty of change for hungry beggars.

    I will do the same.

  54. 54.

    Elizabelle

    March 19, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    The Bushes as “business-savvy?”

    The actual word is “crony capitalists.”

  55. 55.

    Violet

    March 19, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    I have a meeting to go to. Tired of dealing with this already and not in the mood. Ugh.

  56. 56.

    Botsplainer

    March 19, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    @David Koch:

    Jesus, he’s supposed to be always wrong.

  57. 57.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    March 19, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    @Francis:

    It’ll be a bony ass, I’m guessing.

  58. 58.

    Mike E

    March 19, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    @raven: I hope it’ll be higher than an 8 seed…it’s been 30 years since Villanova won in the very first 64 team tourney: They wore white home unis when they played #9 Dayton in their opening game, in Dayton…they beat Michigan, Maryland, North Carolina and (the then-called) Memphis St before playing Georgetown, for the 3rd time that season, beating them in probably the most exciting game of my sports watching life.

  59. 59.

    Betty Cracker

    March 19, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    @Elizabelle: Yep. Even the odious Laura Ingraham gets that:

    “I think a populist pitch is a winner across the country —in Hispanic, white, black communities, I’m telling you it is a winner,” Ingraham said on her radio show on Thursday, according to The Hill. “We can peel off some minority voters, focus on their wages, their renewal. I’m telling you, it’s a winner. Not this old Chamber of Commerce, faux-conservative, big business message. That is a crony capitalist disaster. And I’m sorry, but that’s what the Bush folks represent and that’s what the Bush nomination will do. It will lose.”

    May she turn out to be as prescient a prophet as the equally odious Ann Coulter was last time.

  60. 60.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    @Mike E: Illinois was the home team AT Bama Monday in the NIT because of work on the arena in Champaign. I have never been so disgusted with and Illinois team.

  61. 61.

    jl

    March 19, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Netanyahu’s walkbacks of his reactionary pandering in last days of the Israeli election are interesting. I was going to type ‘amusing’ but that is not really the right word for it.

    I had a feeling, and maybe even typed a comment about how, we need to remember that Netanyahu is the kind of politician who will say whatever he needs to say to get through to the next day. Whatever keeps him in power will turn out to be what he really wanted to do all along, so realpolitik will run his policies.

    TPM blog says that Netanyahu seriously damaged all the parties to his right (at least, to his right in terms of national security) in his scramble to survive the elections. Will be interesting to see what that does for his wriggle room going forward.

  62. 62.

    Botsplainer

    March 19, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    @raven:

    Guy here in the office went to an old money Calcutta last night at a gentlemen’s club (think “Trading Places” club, not a strip joint). Dollar amounts were off the charts insane – thing raised $160,000.00 total. UK was bought for $22,500.00.

    I liked the numbers of categories on the percentage splits – there were awards for the biggest loss, combo bets out the wazoo related to who beat you and how far forward they went, etc. so everybody has rooting interests all the way through.

    He spent $350.00 buying Coastal Carolina.

  63. 63.

    Pogonip

    March 19, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    @Tommy: So how did you end up losing 100 pounds, and have you written a book about it?

  64. 64.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 6:59 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    He spent $350.00 buying Coastal Carolina.

    That’s a good deal, a lot of shoreline for $350.

  65. 65.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 6:59 pm

    @Botsplainer: Yea, I like it way better than the regular brackets but I’ve really been priced out of it by the young lawyers and shit that come not. It’s only a $10K pot but I was fortunate to get 4 teams for under 2 bills. Last year I won $700 by buying the team that lost by the most.

    This one in the ATL is more like your example

    More than $135,000 and two loaded handguns were seized in the Monday night police raid of an illegal basketball betting game run out of a popular Alpharetta eatery, police said Wednesday.

    Twenty-one people were arrested in the bust of the NCAA basketball tournament gambling pool, including eight who were charged with felony commercial gambling and 13 others who were arrested for misdemeanor gambling, police said. The investigation continues, and more charges and arrests are possible.

  66. 66.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 6:59 pm

    @Botsplainer: @Botsplainer: Yea, I like it way better than the regular brackets but I’ve really been priced out of it by the young lawyers and shit that come not. It’s only a $10K pot but I was fortunate to get 4 teams for under 2 bills. Last year I won $700 by buying the team that lost by the most.

  67. 67.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    More than $135,000 and two loaded handguns were seized in the Monday night police raid of an illegal basketball betting game run out of a popular Alpharetta eatery, police said Wednesday.

  68. 68.

    Pogonip

    March 19, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    @Baud: Maybe he can give Cole a few pairs.

  69. 69.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    I can’t post a link to the story in the Atlanta paper about the big calcutta bust Monday night.

  70. 70.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 19, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    @David Koch: And that would be one hell of a desperation. I don’t know if Queen Ann would subject herself to all you people scrutinizing her finances again.

  71. 71.

    Mike E

    March 19, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    @raven: My Temple plays GWU on Sunday… we was robbed out of going to the Big Dance!

  72. 72.

    Amir Khalid

    March 19, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    @Pogonip:
    Tommy’s 5 foot 4 with a 28-inch waist. I don’t think John Cole has lost enough weight yet to fit into trousers that small.

  73. 73.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    @Mike E: Yup.

  74. 74.

    Cacti

    March 19, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    @jl:

    I had a feeling, and maybe even typed a comment about how, we need to remember that Netanyahu is the kind of politician who will say whatever he needs to say to get through to the next day. Whatever keeps him in power will turn out to be what he really wanted to do all along, so realpolitik will run his policies.

    Agree that Bibi would say or do anything to keep his hold on power.

    However, I think the last few days were the closest thing you’ll ever see to complete honesty from him. He hates Arabs and has no interest in ending the oppression of the Palestinians. I don’t think he had to act much for those two positions, as he was speaking straight from his pitch black heart.

  75. 75.

    Germy Shoemangler

    March 19, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: But we didn’t scrutinize them the first time, did we? How much did he release?

    I think we found out about the tax-deductible horse therapy. Maybe she’s pissed about that. “None of your business!”

  76. 76.

    Mike in NC

    March 19, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    The new show “American Crime” is on tonight, but to my knowledge none of the characters is named Bush.

    The shenanigans the Bush family got away with in Florida in 2000 were something most people in this country expect to take place only in deeply corrupt Third World places. The media was basically MIA.

  77. 77.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    @Mike in NC: One of them is the guy that called goal tending against SMU!

  78. 78.

    Germy Shoemangler

    March 19, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    @Cacti: And he sounded like every republican politician complaining about blah people being bussed in by liberal groups to invade the polling places.
    That point has been made before, here and elsewhere, but it’s worth repeating.

  79. 79.

    bemused

    March 19, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    @jl:

    I know Republican women not what I would consider wingnutty who would be mightily pissed off by that statement.

  80. 80.

    jl

    March 19, 2015 at 7:13 pm

    @Cacti: You are probably right. But he will swallow his own racism and hatred for power.

    So far I think the bland and ingenuous manner of Obama’s reaction is good. Glad Obama called and gave congratulations, with some appropriate diplomatic commentary on the apparently very difficult excruciating decisions the US faces now, wrt, for example, some possible UN votes.

    Wonder if some more pointed backchannel comments prompted Netanyahu’s very quick backpeddling.

  81. 81.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 19, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Yet Ingraham and her ilk support voter suppression laws which could hinder minorities from voting in the first place — for any party.

  82. 82.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    VCU los choke el grande!

  83. 83.

    Mike E

    March 19, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    @bemused: The binders will fall from their eyes.

  84. 84.

    jl

    March 19, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    @bemused: But surely all will be forgiven for any GOP nominee, when comments like that are declared to have been misunderstood a day later. Right?

  85. 85.

    Baud

    March 19, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    @Pogonip:

    I think the pants should go to someone who would use them.

  86. 86.

    Tree With Water

    March 19, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    @Elizabelle: “Get over it”… ha,ha..

  87. 87.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 19, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: Well whatever you people did was enough to infuriate Queen Ann. The White House would probably be a downgrade for her.

  88. 88.

    Betty Cracker

    March 19, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Naturally. It’s all about how it looks to Ingraham, Coulter, et al. They don’t dislike Jeb for his plutocrat-friendly policies; after all, they are highly paid servants of the plutocrats themselves. They just don’t want to lose.

  89. 89.

    Violet

    March 19, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    @bemused:

    I know Republican women not what I would consider wingnutty who would be mightily pissed off by that statement.

    And this is exactly why some of those Republican women will vote for Hillary. The anti-woman stuff will be coming from all directions. From loud and proud to dogwhistles to whispers. Women have been hearing it their whole lives but when it’s coming from men over and over again. Well…don’t think it won’t get heard. It isn’t going to do them any favors.

  90. 90.

    trollhattan

    March 19, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    @Amir Khalid:
    The wags are thinking the 28th pair have got to be pretty close to Cole-sized. I believe Dr. Seuss wrote a book about a multitude of hats….

  91. 91.

    WereBear

    March 19, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    @David Koch: I haz a happy!

  92. 92.

    bemused

    March 19, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    @jl:

    So true, the tribal system is just too strong.

  93. 93.

    Mike E

    March 19, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    @raven: Director of officials said it was the right call.. it was assumed to make it to the basket, though not actually go in it.

  94. 94.

    Germy Shoemangler

    March 19, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    I’m not sure who I found more inauthentic: Ann Romney or Callista Gingrich. They both sort of remind me of the martian lady in “Mars Attacks”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDAaTzccCik

  95. 95.

    trollhattan

    March 19, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    Speaking of protecting the plutocrats, this seemed par for the (golf) course.

    A Riverside County Superior Court judge this week ruled that the Coachella Valley Water District doesn’t need to disclose its private customers’ groundwater use data.

    The First Amendment Coalition filed a lawsuit against the agency in August to make records of businesses, such as golf courses, accessible to the public. But a judge shot down the request on Tuesday.

    “CVWD fought this lawsuit because we believe it is important to protect private customer data, whether that customer is a homeowner, a business or a private pumper,” board president John Powell Jr. said in a statement.

    “We also understand the importance of transparency, especially during this significant drought, which is why we will continue to provide aggregate groundwater pumping data and CVWD’s well pumping data.”

    Peter Scheer, executive director of the San Rafael-based watchdog group, said he would consult with an attorney before deciding if his group would appeal the ruling, which had him “extremely disappointed.”

    “In my view, that’s just dead wrong,” Scheer told The Desert Sun. “The notion a public records act is supposed to protect the privacy of large corporate customers, especially during a drought, is just nuts.”

  96. 96.

    WereBear

    March 19, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    @Gex: Well, it takes a while. Damn.

  97. 97.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    The White House would probably be a downgrade for her.

    The living quarters are rather small, and it’s public housing.

    @Violet: Carly 2016! Halprin was saying she was thought of well in their focus groups of Rethug women. Then again, I know, Halprin.

  98. 98.

    jl

    March 19, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    @bemused: Maybe for most committed wingnut GOP women. I don’t think so for anyone else. And I think a few loud and proud wingnut GOP women may have a forever secret oopsie in the voting booth, if this keeps up. Especially if HRC is running.

  99. 99.

    Violet

    March 19, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Demon sheep Carly? Oh yeah. She’ll do great.

  100. 100.

    Mike E

    March 19, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: In defense of Callista, though, she was lobbying Newt pretty hard for a moon colony.

  101. 101.

    Germy Shoemangler

    March 19, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    @Mike E: She wanted to live among her people?

  102. 102.

    mdblanche

    March 19, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    So the President has finally called Netanyahu to congratulate him on winning a plurality.

    “So that’s a really interesting election system you got. Very different from ours. I remember the time I ran for the Senate and won the biggest landslide in Illinois history. My opponent got a slightly larger share of the vote than you did.”

  103. 103.

    trollhattan

    March 19, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:
    Lady Ann would take a page directly from the Book of Nancy Reagan and declare the White House “a firetrap” and instead live in a REALLY fine donor-supplied home. If Willard actually deigned to live there, I’d start a pool as to when the giant angel Moroni statue would be installed atop the WH.

  104. 104.

    bemused

    March 19, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    @Violet:

    The drip, drip, drip will drive some of them to do that. Only for Hillary though. I can’t imagine many of the fed up voting for any other Dem, male or female.

  105. 105.

    bemused

    March 19, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    @Mike E:

    Good one.

  106. 106.

    dmbeaster

    March 19, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    @Elizabelle: Even more devastating was the removal of tens of thousands of minorities from the voter rolls for various nefarious reasons. Its what Jeb did that really won the State for his brother.

  107. 107.

    jl

    March 19, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    @Violet: We Californians were way too cosmopolitan and sophisticated to fall for demon sheep. But all you rubes out in flyover country? And with a bigger budget for CGI demon sheep? Oh hell yeah, that commercial be a winner.

    Oh, hell yeah… for sure… it’ll work. Be the greatest thing since flying toasters or new coke or coke zero. Even better than Zima!

  108. 108.

    Patrick

    March 19, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Halperin lost any credibilty he may have had with his childish remark about President Obama.

  109. 109.

    bemused

    March 19, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @jl:

    That I could believe. A liberal friend told me about an older couple she knew. He was very Republican and his wife whispered quietly to my friend that she voted Dem. Hubby didn’t know. Makes me smile every time I think of that.

  110. 110.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @trollhattan: I visited the “Firetrap” back in the 70’s.

  111. 111.

    Mike E

    March 19, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: My GOS sig line is a Tom Hanks quip on that very subject:
    Citizen #6 on Moon Base Callista

  112. 112.

    trollhattan

    March 19, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @Violet: Dem ad campaign: each day, another HP employee shares his/her thoughts of Carly Fiorina. There’s corporate experience and there’s corporate incompetence. It would be open season. “Let a thousand Benghazis rain.”

  113. 113.

    Germy Shoemangler

    March 19, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @dmbeaster: Lots of them were innocent people with the same last names as people with records. I think it was sorted out after the election. Maybe not.

  114. 114.

    bemused

    March 19, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Carly is vile. She makes my hair stand on end.

  115. 115.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    @bemused: But, she’s run a bidness (into the ground).

  116. 116.

    trollhattan

    March 19, 2015 at 7:42 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:
    My kid went on the tour, probably grade 4 or so. Loved it, especially the stories of the Brown kids’ hijinks (evidently, before the Jesuits got hold of Jerry).

  117. 117.

    Tree With Water

    March 19, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    @trollhattan: @jl: The United States need only take him at his own word, to justify a major pivot in our policies vis a vis the state of Israel. I for one think we should avail ourselves of the opportunity.

  118. 118.

    Turgidson

    March 19, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    I actually found Ann to be authentic in her elitism and insularity. Other than her “I’m a woman so women should vote GOP” convention snoozer, she didn’t really try to be anything but an insulated snob.

  119. 119.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 19, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    @trollhattan: Either Nancy or Patty painted the toenails on the base of the tub with red nail polish.

  120. 120.

    Turgidson

    March 19, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Halperin: “Devastating ad highlighting how Fiorina ran HP into the ground is good news for…Carly Fiorina!”

  121. 121.

    Germy Shoemangler

    March 19, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    @Turgidson: In the “Mars Attacks” clip I linked above, is Martin Short playing a character based on the “Clinton Guy Shocked By Blowjobs”?

  122. 122.

    WaterGirl

    March 19, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    @jl: I was really happy to see someone from the Obama Administration saying something like “you can’t unring that bell”.

    I would love to see us stop blocking the UN recognition of Palestine.

    I would bet that President Obama hates being lied to, hates having his time wasted, and hates being disrespected. Bibi had gotten himself a hat trick, and I hope the president finds a way to crush him.

    It’s time for someone to post the link to the interview where the presidents ends with “I will crush them”.

  123. 123.

    Chris T.

    March 19, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    @David Koch: Huh … is it the case that the Rmoney’s have decided that to fulfill the White Horse prophecy, someone must come to them and beg for Mitt to run?

  124. 124.

    David Koch

    March 19, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    @WaterGirl: http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2011/12/then-i-will-crush-them.html

  125. 125.

    WaterGirl

    March 19, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    @David Koch: Thanks for that! I watched the clip just now – it always make me feel better. This time I bookmarked it. :-)

  126. 126.

    Turgidson

    March 19, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    That seems like a possibility, I think.

  127. 127.

    Betty Cracker

    March 19, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    @WaterGirl: Most of the Democrats in Congress are reflexively servile to Israel. I doubt very much PBO will overtly smack Netanyahu down, as satisfying as that might be for us onlookers. Instead, he’ll be the grownup (as usual) and allow Netanyahu’s insulting behavior and indefensible remarks give Democrats the excuse they need to prevent Congress from vetoing an agreement with Iran.

  128. 128.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 19, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    @raven: Which demonstrates conclusively that it is, indeed, shit.

  129. 129.

    divF

    March 19, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Lady Ann would take a page directly from the Book of Nancy Reagan and declare the White House “a firetrap”.

    The old CA governor’s mansion was well-known to be a firetrap long before Gov. Reagan. When Earl Warren was governor in the late 40’s, Joan Didion went to the same high school as one of the Warren daughters. In her essay in “The White Album”, Didion quotes the persistent warning, “no smoking above the third floor. Mrs. Warren says” because of the fire hazard.

    ETA: I highly recommend that essay, and in fact the whole collection.

  130. 130.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    @Turgidson: I don’t know. She came across as ignorant about the lives of others, when she said that he they had to sell stock to get by while Mitt was in college.

  131. 131.

    Patrick

    March 19, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    It says a lot about the Democratic party representatives in Congress if they are going to override Obama’s veto on the Iran deal.

  132. 132.

    Tree With Water

    March 19, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    @WaterGirl: There was a Roman- whose name escapes me- who ended his every address to the Roman senate by saying, “Carthage must be destroyed”. I say congressional democrats should substitute ‘the republican party’ for Carthage, and from here on out end every address on their respective floors with that appeal.

  133. 133.

    Roger Moore

    March 19, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Carly 2016!

    Only if she sticks with the same people who made the Demon Sheep ad.

  134. 134.

    Iowa Old Lady

    March 19, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    @Gex: Go you. Also, lists are always my tactic of choice.

  135. 135.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Her claim to fame is Hewlett Packard. How’d they perform under her leadership. I don’t get it.

  136. 136.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    March 19, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    I had a really shitty day in court. The Chief District Court Judge insisted on trying a case against our client before my boss could get there. Our client was a 17 year old girl. She was terrified. Background, the ADAs told me they had all their witnesses there even though it was clear that they only had one of the five they needed to try the case. Right before they called the cases for trial they took a dismissal of the five charges that they didn’t have witnesses for and proceeded with the one misdemeanor that they did have the witness for. My boss was not in court because we had been waiting for them to have the witnesses present. Talk about drive by justice. Judge found her guilty and we appealed. The Judge (who has been a friend of mine for 20 years) told me off for practicing law without a license when I told our client to plead not guilty before the boss got there. He actually called me up to the bench and said “what the hell is going on”? I tried to tell him that my boss was on the way but he insisted on going ahead with the trial anyway. These people are going to give me a heart attack.

  137. 137.

    Xantar

    March 19, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    Oh this isn’t good.

    Missing black man in Mississippi found hanging from a tree.

  138. 138.

    WaterGirl

    March 19, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    @Tree With Water: Sounds like a good idea to me.

  139. 139.

    Roger Moore

    March 19, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:
    Isn’t that what people used to describe as being railroaded? Is there any chance of charging the judge with misconduct?

  140. 140.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    @Xantar: I saw that earlier and I am embarrassed to say this, but I hope that it was suicide. May he rip

  141. 141.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Ya’ll see Coach Hunter fall out of his chair after his son hit the three than won the game?

    He ruptured his achilles Sunday while celebrating their conference game and now this!

  142. 142.

    Mike E

    March 19, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    That Ellis kid no longer wants to be there…flagrant 2.

  143. 143.

    WaterGirl

    March 19, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    @Xantar: I saw that earlier and thought “so we’ve come full circle to the point where it’s acceptable to lynch black people again?”. The thought makes me sick to my stomach.

  144. 144.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 19, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    These people are going to give me a heart attack.

    I’d skip the house in Hackensack, too.

  145. 145.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    @Mike E: I remember them and all Huggins loudmouth shit when they tried to get rough with the Ilini. We ran their asses out of the gym.

  146. 146.

    Peale

    March 19, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I did not like that film, but I think I might be the only one. I feel strange. An outcast man of no taste. Although the best supporting actor nod was earned, I could not figure out why critics were so excited to watch the same charlie Parker story repeated.

  147. 147.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    @WaterGirl: That’s why I hoped it was suicide. It’s horrible.
    Boston.com has a story about a NH 4th grade class trying to introduce a bill to make the red tail hawk the state raptor bird. link A representative got up and said it was better suited for planned parenthood because the way they tear open their prey. He then explained that he had first amendment rights of free speech. wtf..

  148. 148.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    March 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    My boss is pissed as you can imagine and is not going to let this go. As it turns out he is the sixth lawyer that he has done this to. I think it is about time someone fought back. The good news is that our client was a little tiger on the stand and she really stood up for herself even though she was in tears the entire time. The stupid part is the court asks all defendants if they want to waive their rights to counsel all day and every day and yet this Judge made our client try a case without waiving her right to counsel. Stupid.

  149. 149.

    Betty Cracker

    March 19, 2015 at 8:43 pm

    @Patrick: I screwed up my comment; what I meant to say is that I think Obama will use Netanyahu’s awful behavior to rally the Dems to sustain his veto. But yeah, it sucks that it took Netanyahu acting like a toddler to make that a possibility. Spineless, ass-kissing jackwagons, the lot of them.

  150. 150.

    WaterGirl

    March 19, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    @JPL: I am rapidly concluding that virtually all elected Republicans are sociopaths. Seriously.

  151. 151.

    TS

    March 19, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    @David Koch:

    Even Bill Kristol is panicking.

    A real worry if Kristol thinks a dem can win – he is ALWAYS wrong

  152. 152.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    @WaterGirl: It’s their first amendment right though. I’m so glad that we got rid of political correctness because it allowed these assholes to come out of the closet.

  153. 153.

    opiejeanne

    March 19, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    @Tommy: I’m 5’3″ and remember being told I was overweight when I weighed what you weigh. I was not overweight, I was just not a teenager any more; I was in my late 20s, had had a baby, and my hips had decided to make an appearance. Really, I wish I weighed 145 right now.

  154. 154.

    Calouste

    March 19, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: You’re not giving Fiorina the credit she deserves: she ran two businesses into the ground, although they were so good at cooking the books at Lucent that she managed to escape to HP before that all came to light.

  155. 155.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    For those watching the ncaa tournament, please explain the coke ad to me. I think our world is really on fire.

  156. 156.

    WereBear

    March 19, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    @Calouste: Republicans are the people who meet their doctor at the Club and they all get drunk out of their gourds and then they consult the doctor professionally when they get sick.

    Risk! It’s a way of life!

  157. 157.

    Redshift

    March 19, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    @bemused: My favorite event like that from 2008 was the woman who stopped by the Dem table at our polling place and told us that she and her friends were Republicans who had worked in the Reagan Administration, and they were all voting for Obama.

  158. 158.

    mai naem mobile

    March 19, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    I just want to point out that Rick Scott an executive at the co..involved in the largest Medicare settlement ever for wrondoing, is currently governor of Floriduh. Granted Floriduh is Floriduh and it is not the USA but still they elected Rick Scott.

  159. 159.

    Ruckus

    March 19, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    @Francis: Former co-worker is 6’10” and weighs 180. He doesn’t look like a stick at all.

  160. 160.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Even though some disagreed, IOKIYR. Sad but true.
    As far as Jeb goes, only other repubs can attack him. I’m not saying he will win, because it will be difficult for a repub to win the general election.

  161. 161.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    @Ruckus:

    Former co-worker is 6’10” and weighs 180. He doesn’t look like a stick at all.

    Bullshit. 6’10” and 180 is a scarecrow.

  162. 162.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    @Ruckus: Some are just big boned. I remember a cat that graced our presence that was just big boned. rip tunch

  163. 163.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    Harvard makin a run at Carolina.

  164. 164.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @Mike E:

    That Ellis kid no longer wants to be there…flagrant 2.

    He threw that forearm and I was like, “WTF?”. “You can’t do that shit.”
    Just about the same time the announcers said similar.

  165. 165.

    Turgidson

    March 19, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    @JPL:

    Agreed, that was her one attempt that I can recall where she tried to convince us that she’s “just like us” – but still, she was authentic in her ignorance in that that’s who she really is.

  166. 166.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    Game over, man. Game over.

  167. 167.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    @Corner Stone: what game I’m watching purdue and cinci

  168. 168.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    I’ve been anti-Cincy since K-Mart days but that kid who got ejected needs to take a good long look at his stupid ass self.

  169. 169.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    @JPL: Yep, that game. Over.

  170. 170.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    Ohhhh!!!

  171. 171.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    I still have 7 seconds

  172. 172.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @Corner Stone: Man that kid from Harvard should have gone to the rack, there was no one near him. Shame.

  173. 173.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    @JPL: Harvard NC probably.

  174. 174.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    @JPL: WOOOOO!!!

  175. 175.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    Damn, roll on the rim much! JUST!

  176. 176.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    so perdue/cincy isn’t over

  177. 177.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    @JPL: OT

  178. 178.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    @JPL: If Perdue loses this game their coach should box up his junk and drive off with the lights off until he clears the county line.

  179. 179.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    @Corner Stone: Purdue, Perdue is chicken.

  180. 180.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @Corner Stone: You know Bruce Hornsby’s kid is on LSU?

  181. 181.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @raven: whatever, I just got through rewinding that nasty post up drop step for my son about a zillion times.

  182. 182.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    @raven: That’s just the way it is.

  183. 183.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    @Corner Stone: He walked didn’t he?

  184. 184.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    @Corner Stone: If you really don’t care who wins, this is a great o.t.

  185. 185.

    ms_canadada

    March 19, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    @Gex: Widow for 2.5 weeks. It’s so hard.

  186. 186.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    @JPL: This slate of games has taken the sting out of the Illini quitting.

  187. 187.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    @raven: Hell no. Power dribble.
    All bless Hakeem.

  188. 188.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    Wow.. I change my mind.. what sloppy ball playing

  189. 189.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    Airball?!

  190. 190.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    Jesus this some sloppy shit.

  191. 191.

    Botsplainer

    March 19, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    Jesus, this is sloppy ball.

    Bets on double OT?

  192. 192.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    @Botsplainer: If it takes a 3 by the Boilers? I’ll take that for a Fresca.

  193. 193.

    Botsplainer

    March 19, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Purdue could gut this out.

  194. 194.

    Botsplainer

    March 19, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    Not a lot of clock burnt on the inbound.

  195. 195.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    @Botsplainer: hahahahahahah

  196. 196.

    Botsplainer

    March 19, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    Cincinnati got lucky.

  197. 197.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    @Botsplainer: That sucked and I don’t even care.

  198. 198.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    Nice moving screen to clear that.

  199. 199.

    Botsplainer

    March 19, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Rule follower…

  200. 200.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    @Botsplainer: Except on walks.

  201. 201.

    Gex

    March 19, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    @ms_canadada: I’m so sorry. Lots of love and hugs to you.

    I’m just so sorry.

  202. 202.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    Hold down the fort.

  203. 203.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    @raven: You walk your doggie!
    /Pacino

  204. 204.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 19, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    @ms_canadada: I’m so very sorry for your loss.

    @Gex: I’m sorry for your loss as well; we know how much Kate meant to you and how difficult the details of the aftermath have been.

  205. 205.

    raven

    March 19, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    @Corner Stone: Already did, in the cold ass rain!

  206. 206.

    Ruckus

    March 19, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    @JPL:
    I seem to recall lord and master Cole telling us once that Tunch was heavy enough and normally lackadaisical enough to be useful as a paperweight. A grand paperweight to be sure.

  207. 207.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    @ms_canadada: I am so sorry. I can’t imagine how you are feeling but do know there are hugs being sent your way.

  208. 208.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 19, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    @raven: Cold ass rain here, too. Sloppy hoops tonight.

  209. 209.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    @Ruckus: I still miss him.

  210. 210.

    Ruckus

    March 19, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    @Gex:
    @ms_canadada:
    Can not imagine how hard this is for both of you.

  211. 211.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    Mmmm…women’s curling…

  212. 212.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    What’s the spread for the UK game? +25?

  213. 213.

    Ruckus

    March 19, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    @JPL:
    Funny isn’t it. Not our cat, never even saw him in person and we still think about him. Some animals(and human animals!) just hit you the right way and you like them. Frequently you can’t even tell why, you just do. Tunch was one of those.

  214. 214.

    Botsplainer

    March 19, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    True cat haters are pinning their hopes on a first round upset.

    Failing that, they hope for a vacated season and asterisks.

  215. 215.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    @Ruckus: I hope John sees that comment because it so true.

  216. 216.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    @Botsplainer: It’s just the way it is in recent years. A bunch of AAU recruiters getting paid to put a one year team together, year after year.
    UNC in 2009 started it as the proto model.

  217. 217.

    Zinsky

    March 19, 2015 at 10:14 pm

    Sorry to interrupt the basketball discussion to get back to the topic of the thread, but the Bush family has always exploited its name and patrician connections to get in on too-good-to-be-true business deals. From Grandpa Prescott arming the Nazi war machine (here), to Dubya getting to buy into a piece of a Major League Baseball team for virtually no money down (here) to the current asshole, Jeb and his highly questionable business investments, these dysfunctional criminal rat bastards have milked their fame worse than the Kardashians!!

  218. 218.

    Corner Stone

    March 19, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    @Zinsky:

    Sorry to interrupt the basketball discussion to get back to the topic of the thread

    Not a problem. Actually I appreciate you pointing out what a fucking disgrace it is that this thread had to be reworked into an NCAA Tourny thread. Fucking disgraceful.
    Thanks!

  219. 219.

    JPL

    March 19, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    @Corner Stone: lol

  220. 220.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 19, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    Some of my white dude progressive friends on Google+ are going on and on about how they’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton and you shouldn’t either. They’re gonna vote Green or not vote. One of them was into Rand Paul a while back. Another likes to proudly talk about how he never votes at all.

    This is gonna be a long year and half.

  221. 221.

    ms_canadada

    March 19, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    @Gex: Thank you. I see him everywhere.

  222. 222.

    ms_canadada

    March 19, 2015 at 11:02 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Thank you. Suicide leaves an ache that is almost unbearable.

  223. 223.

    ms_canadada

    March 19, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    @JPL: Thank you. Never saw myself in this state.

  224. 224.

    Tree With Water

    March 19, 2015 at 11:11 pm

    On cable station AHC, I just watched the famous film footage of the attack on the USS Arizona in digitalized form. The result is an astonishingly detailed, split seconds perspective of the death of the great warship, inclusive of the bomb strikes dropped by the squadron that missed, and the 10 foot tidal wave that was created and crashed into Ford Island. The show is listed as Pearl Harbor Declassified, and while I just caught the final twenty minutes, I highly recommend it.

  225. 225.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    March 19, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    @Tree With Water:

    On again at 1:00 a.m. EDT (American History Channel).

  226. 226.

    Tree With Water

    March 19, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: A long year and half? You’re an optimist, aren’t you? Someone, or more like two or three or even four wannabes are even now plotting their 2020 campaign strategy. Presidential campaigns and campaigning will be a 24-7-365 day a year enterprise from here on out, and there ain’t nuttin youz can do about it..

  227. 227.

    J R in WV

    March 19, 2015 at 11:40 pm

    @ms_canadada: I am so sorry for your loss, our loss.

    Hang in there, it does get better!

    The crowd here will always be willing to talk, especially in the late at night, there’s almost always someone talking about some silly and stupid things at 3 am, and willing to talk to you too, about whatever.

  228. 228.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    March 19, 2015 at 11:58 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I’m retired, and looking for something to do. I have experience in research and communication – I would LOVE to engage in oppo research re Jeb(!). Somebody call me.

  229. 229.

    Ruckus

    March 20, 2015 at 12:14 am

    @ms_canadada:
    Wow that is tough. I worked on a hotline decades ago and we dealt with this. As @J R in WV: said many of us are night owls and some of the night owls live on the left coast so our late really is. Don’t know if we can be of any help but if you just need to chat, let us know.

  230. 230.

    opiejeanne

    March 20, 2015 at 12:33 am

    @ms_canadada: I’m so sorry to hear it. I’m not sure how I’d cope if my husband leaves first.

  231. 231.

    opiejeanne

    March 20, 2015 at 12:38 am

    @ms_canadada: I think, I’m not sure, but I think that makes it even harder to deal with, and you’re still in shock. The hurt is still raw.

    It will get better but that just sounds like empty words right now. I know it gets better because it has to.

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