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You are here: Home / Food & Recipes / Food / Beyond Peanuts & Cracker Jack (Open Thread)

Beyond Peanuts & Cracker Jack (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  April 9, 20154:44 pm| 127 Comments

This post is in: Food, Open Threads, Sports

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If you can endure several seconds of obnoxious, screen-hijacking ads, Esquire has an interesting and timely article posted: What to Eat at Every Single Major League Ballpark. As usual when I encounter a guide that makes such definitive claims, I scroll through to read the recommendation they make on my turf to determine whether the article is full of crap.

And incidentally, it is: Under no circumstances should you or anyone else ever order the absurd “Four-Pound Fan vs. Food Burger” at Tropicana Field, especially when you could sample some regional fare with a Cuban sandwich (the Trop has a perfectly adequate version) or Taco Bus taco platter washed down with Cigar City beer.

But before I scrolled down to the Trop, my eyes were arrested by this creation available at Chase Field, home of the Arizona Diamondbacks:

churrodog

Yes, it’s real. A “hot dog” fashioned from a split éclair into which someone has nestled a churro topped by three scoops, whipped cream, chocolate sauce and caramel sauce. Sweet, weeping Mary in a diabetic coma!

Now I’m not sure why the “churro dog” uses frozen yogurt instead of straight-up ice cream — it can’t possibly be for the caloric savings. But damn.

What’s the most ridiculous dessert you’ve ever personally consumed?

Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    Yippee! Thank you, Ms. Cracker. Fresh thread is good.

  2. 2.

    MomSense

    April 9, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    I was going to say that I’ve only ever eaten a hot dog at Fenway and that is what they chose to highlight. Back in my day there weren’t many other options, maybe peanuts.

  3. 3.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    For ridiculously delicious, I’d say strawberry whipped cream cake, or a good sherry trifle.

    Or something dense and chocolate and not too sweet.

    For ersatz desserts: either didn’t have them, or repressed the memory.

  4. 4.

    muddy

    April 9, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    @Elizabelle: I was thinking about what to make for supper and now all I want is trifle!

  5. 5.

    Karen in GA

    April 9, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Open thread? Iggy enjoys a snuggle.

    Last baseball game I went to was the Gwinnett Braves, just to go to a game. Surprisingly boring — I guess because I didn’t care about either team. Can’t remember what I ate.

    And that added nothing to the discussion. I’ll stop now.

  6. 6.

    jl

    April 9, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    What, no custard? No frosting? I call bullshit.

  7. 7.

    jacel

    April 9, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    Certainly the Ice Kakang, a Malaysian dessert consumed at Banana Island in Daly City (south of San Francisco). Oddly, it contained no ingredients I am allergic to, unlike most desserts. But it did include whole red beans and kernels of corn.

    If you’ve never seen an Ice Kakang, Google that word and look at the incredible variety of images for different ways it has been served.

  8. 8.

    scav

    April 9, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    Can the god-fearing legitimately put that that in their Leviticus-sactioned lips? I mean, hot dogs, symbolic enough, but when made sweet and delicious and dripping — even frothy — and then with added balls? Three strikes of that and you’re out of something.

  9. 9.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 9, 2015 at 4:56 pm

    Best dessert ever, homemade mango ice-cream made with the king of all fruit, the Ratnagiri Hapoos mango at K Rustoms, Churchgate, Bombay (Mumbai), India.

  10. 10.

    ThresherK

    April 9, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    Three Qs:

    Do the Mets serve that a half-sheet pan?

    Fenway’s best food is the frank? Really?

    For Tampa, the food geek in me wonders, Can anyone cook a two-pound burger right, or is it just “stunt food”?

  11. 11.

    dexwood

    April 9, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    Not really a dessert, but the green chile-vanilla milkshake I had in Cuba New Mexico once was surprisingly good. It was in early October so the chile was really fresh. Isotopes season opener this evening. I can’t wait.

  12. 12.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    LA Times got a letter from, purportedly, Robert Durst. PDF link attached. His defense attorney, Dick DeGuerin, says handwriting does not resemble that from the “cadaver” letter.

    Not in green ink; blue this time. Did you all see the HBO documentary? I have not yet, but would like to.

    And what’s up with that guy profiled in “The Staircase”?

  13. 13.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 9, 2015 at 4:59 pm

    Bombay is such a great food city. My visits are usually too hurried and short and too filled with in-law drama to really sample all the great stuff the city has to offer.

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    April 9, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    I’m not that into sweets, but I recently had dinner with my brother and sister at some trendy joint, and my siblings ordered a couple of desserts off the cart, and we all three ended up fighting for the remnants of one, which was some kind of bizarre and imaginative take on s’mores involving cheesecake and ice cream and toasted marshmallow. I was ready to cut a bitch over a crumb!

  15. 15.

    Hunter Gathers

    April 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    Twinkie.

    Not quite sure that they qualify as actual food.

  16. 16.

    Parmenides

    April 9, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    I once made a cheesecake, flourless chocolate cake layer cake with raspberry compote for the filler and Ganache for frosting. Standard size cake fed thirty people.

  17. 17.

    SuperHrefna

    April 9, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    I think the most outrageous dessert I’ve ever had was my twenty first birthday cake. My friend, an excellent chef, made it and instead of making frosting he covered it two inches deep in top notch ganache. So blissful!

  18. 18.

    JaneE

    April 9, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    Any dessert at Claim Jumper. The fudge mountain is a 6 layer chocolate job iced with ganache with extra chocolate chips mixed in, 1 layer per adult to be served works well. The I’dEclaire is probably good for 6-8 adults – it filled about a 11″ plate, 4 or 5 scoops of ice cream, I think, and enough whipped cream to float a battleship on top of the hot fudge sauce. Great for office Christmas dinners, where you could get a dozen or so people and split two or three things.

  19. 19.

    dexwood

    April 9, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Nearly forgot about this – Many years ago, my roommate made ice cream floats with tequila. They were pretty disgusting, but she seemed to enjoy it. Other kinds of alcohol and various illegal intoxicants may have been involved.

  20. 20.

    Barbara

    April 9, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    I don’t usually like churros. I don’t know why, because I like most doughnuts. I think my favorite dessert is a version of profiteroles that I get at a local restaurant, served with creme anglaise, ice cream and whipped cream and chocolate (probably tastes a lot like what is pictured in your post, but made with classic choux pastry, which is baked, and not fried as churros are).

    I also recently had for dessert hot chocolate made with Valhrona chocolate. It was to die for.

  21. 21.

    PD IT

    April 9, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    WANT

  22. 22.

    scav

    April 9, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    Just thought of one. There was a Pear Dame Blanche in a tiny village from the local baker. Granted, I’ve had a few simple lemon and sugar crepes that were more than fine. And a series of lemon tarts. OK, I’ve found the general theme.

  23. 23.

    ruemara

    April 9, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    I can’t answer this question. I bake desserts at the drop of a hat.

  24. 24.

    tom

    April 9, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    Dip that churro in nutella first, please.

  25. 25.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    I love zabaglione (basically egg custard with marsala wine). Here’s super easy recipe from Mario Battali. Have never made zab … but it does not seem hard to do.

    Great over fresh fruit.

    I think marsala makes just about anything taste better. I drizzle some over ice cream, sometimes …

  26. 26.

    hedgehog the occasional commentator

    April 9, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    Can’t say as I’ve had the Rocky Mountain Oysters at Coors (I did try them, once, at another restaurant). Meh. I’d recommend the Rockie Dog (footlong with peppers, sauerkraut and mustard, thank you very much, no ketchup). Most decadent dessert? Erm, does the Reese’s chocolate and peanut butter bunny at Easter count? Maybe not decadent but definitely ridiculous.

  27. 27.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    NY Times:

    It has been falsely predicted many times in the last year, but now it seems to be true: The federal investigation into the lane closings at the George Washington Bridge appears to be coming to a head, with an announcement of indictments as early as next week.

    In recent weeks, people close to the case say, federal investigators have interviewed members of the Borough Council in Fort Lee, N.J., the town gridlocked when its three lanes leading to the bridge were narrowed to one for several days in September 2013 — a move at first bewildering, and later revealed to be the result of orders from aides and allies of Gov. Chris Christie.

    The interviews were said to be largely perfunctory, the kind of t-crossing that investigators would do before wrapping up.

    drum roll …. Please do not let “teflon” Gov. Christie skate on this one.

  28. 28.

    WaterGirl

    April 9, 2015 at 5:22 pm

    @efgoldman: If you pay the postage, I’m sure she will mail you some.

  29. 29.

    Barbara

    April 9, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    @Elizabelle: I love zabaglione! I used to make it whenever I had leftover wine. It doesn’t have to be made from marsala wine. Also, I read his recipe, and I think it will work better if you whisk the sugar and egg yolks together first, until they are “ribbony” when you scrape a spatula through them, and then add the wine (which will bubble up) and then remove from heat when the whole thing achieves a smooth consistency (in a manner of seconds, not minutes). I used to serve it over strawberries or poached pears. Believe it or not, I actually did this when I was single and was cooking only for myself.

  30. 30.

    gbbalto

    April 9, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    Foie gras crème brulee – it was wonderful but just did it once.

  31. 31.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    I’m glad good beer is available at bball games now. Used to be swill; now you get good microbrews and regional stuff too.

  32. 32.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 9, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    Indian desserts usually use enough sugar to make my teeth hurt. The ratio of ghee:sugar:milk/carb is usually 1:1:1. Some desserts are fried and then dipped in heavy syrup. Most religious occasions are associated with their own special dessert. The only saving grace is that people don’t eat these calorie bombs every day.

  33. 33.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    @Barbara: Will try your method.

    Got hooked on zabaglione at a not good Italian restaurant — the food was not special — which took some doing — but the cook shined at zab … so it’s a happy memory.

  34. 34.

    Roger Moore

    April 9, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    Anyone who suggests the food of choice at Dodger Stadium is anything but a Dodger Dog is not worth listening to.

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    April 9, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    @Elizabelle: Well, David Samson just “resigned” from his law firm in the last week or so, so I’m thinking things aren’t going to go well for him.

    In case I’m right about that, I will speculate further… If things don’t go well for Samson, they aren’t going to go well for Christie. Couldn’t happen to a nicer set of people.

    I hope the woman they hung out to dry gets the last laugh. They have certainly done a good job of keeping the lid on this investigation.

  36. 36.

    Betty Cracker

    April 9, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    @Elizabelle: Yeah, the beer selection really has improved! Unfortunately, the prices are absurd, even for the crappy beer.

  37. 37.

    stickler

    April 9, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    Not a dessert, but a German specialty: Hackepeter, in a Berlin kneipe. What is it? It’s a pile of spiced, cold raw ground pork. With a raw egg yoke nestled on top. Served with dark bread, horseradish, and pickles. Actually tasted delicious, but I did have to have a second beer to get up the courage to order it.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    April 9, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    @stickler: I would eat the dark bread, horseradish and pickles. As long as they hadn’t touched anything else on the plate.

  39. 39.

    the Conster

    April 9, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    My late British SIL would have made the contestants on The Great British Baking Show weep in despair. She made a shortbread crust almond pie topped with fresh strawberries lightly dusted with superfine sugar that I will never be able to replicate which gives me a sad. Her trifles were works of art, and her fruit tarts with creme anglaise were too pretty to eat. But I did.

  40. 40.

    Sloegin

    April 9, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    Can’t remember the last time I had an honest to god Banana Split served in a boat dish with all the toppings.

    That abomination at the top reminded me of it.

  41. 41.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    @ruemara: Baking is such a talent. Well done.

    I’m still in shock over the Pigs in the Parlor business. I think you should make some cupcakes or confections to release bad memories there.

    Sometimes a pig is just a pig.

    And how horrible to inculcate young people with that. No wonder that type sees ISIS around every corner.

    (Notice how the pigs on this cover look like the bad ones from Animal Farm.)
    And now I’m afraid of what Amazon will start recommending for me. Jeebus.

  42. 42.

    lamh36

    April 9, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    I would say “almost” perfect accent. I do like the Obama attempts to speak the local colloquialisms when he visits places.

    That cool moment President Obama says “Wah gwan, Jamaica?” in a perfect Jamaican accent. #obamainja #ObamainJamaica https://t.co/4BRz570XDd

  43. 43.

    Abo gato

    April 9, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    Like Ruemara, I bake all the time. It would be really difficult to find a best. What we think is funny though, is that I’ll try a new recipe and we’ll like it, then wonder to ourselves if we’ll ever have it again.

  44. 44.

    Betty Cracker

    April 9, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    @Sloegin: I make an authentic banana split for my hubby every now and then (maybe once or twice a year) because he loves them so. The boats are one of the few special-purpose dishes I keep in my small-ish kitchen.

  45. 45.

    MrSnrub

    April 9, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    The crab fries at Citizens Bank Park are way overrated. Bulls BBQ or Federal Donuts (fried chicken and donuts) are much better.

    Seriously…Old Bay on french fries?

  46. 46.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 9, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    @stickler: So it’s steak tartare, but from the pig instead of the cow.

    Best dessert I’ve had in recent years was a bit of pink grapefruit with a sort of meringue or panna cotta, at Coi in San Francisco. Two bites, but the memory has stayed with me for years.

  47. 47.

    Violet

    April 9, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    I made this insane concoction myself. Made panna cotta. Froze it. Made a brownie. Refrigerated it. Topped brownie with panna cotta. Whipped up egg whites and covered the entire thing, which made this ridiculously tall mountain on the plate. Put in a hot oven to toast the egg whites. Served with some kind of homemade sauce–can’t remember now if I had butterscotch or raspberry. Maybe both?

    It was really good but the fun part was bringing it out to the table. Well, bringing them out to the table because they were supposed to be individual servings but the egg whites got away from me so each one was huge. Tasted good! It was a sort of modified baked Alaska.

  48. 48.

    dedc79

    April 9, 2015 at 5:41 pm

    Momofuku Milk Bar’s “Crack Pie” was pretty damn decadent.

  49. 49.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 9, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    For the nostalgists among us (too bad BiP’s not around) here’s a banner that recently appeared outside a police building in Moscow. It says “Eternal Glory to the Victors!”

  50. 50.

    Bill Arnold

    April 9, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    Friends’ wedding featured a 3-tier Death By Chocolate wedding cake. That was good. I dread the “cake” served at formula weddings.

    Had a pecan-something at a restaurant somewhere on Long Beach Island on the Jersey shore, sort of a very high density thin pecan pie. Talked the chef into giving me the finicky recipe, made it once, successfully.

  51. 51.

    elmo

    April 9, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    German chocolate cake, from a mix, in a flat sheet.
    Take a wooden spoon and, with the handle, poke holes approximately 1 – 2″ apart all over the finished baked cake, but make sure the holes don’t go all the way through. Halfway through is fine..
    Pour one can of sweetened condensed milk, and one jar of caramel topping, all over the cake so it gets down in the holes.

  52. 52.

    p.a.

    April 9, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    My 1st Bananas Foster was in NOLA. Make it occasionally at home, it’s easy.
    Durian bubble tea. Interesting; sweet but with a definite bite like raw garlic.

  53. 53.

    Heliopause

    April 9, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Weather Channel says tornado warnings in northern part of West Virginia as well as other places.

  54. 54.

    Cacti

    April 9, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    In the spirit of the previous trolling thread:

    The Texas legislature passed stringent facility requirements for abortion clinics in 2013, at the behest of the anti-choice movement…

    Who are now freaking out at the unintended consequence of Planned Parenthood building a state of the art ambulatory surgical center in San Antonio, in accordance with the new guidelines.

    Link

  55. 55.

    Josie

    April 9, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    One of my sons requested chocolate pecan pie last Thanksgiving. It was sinfully good. I think it might become a tradition.

  56. 56.

    ThresherK

    April 9, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    @ruemara: As do I. But that doesn’t mean you’re cheating if you nominate yourself.

    (I’d have replied to you earlier but I’ve just put some dinner rolls to rise.)

  57. 57.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 9, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    OT: Brain is turning to ultra-rapid-cycling ups and downs, so pray for me I guess. This fucking sucks.

  58. 58.

    Kristin

    April 9, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    The Warm White Chocolate-Brioche Bread Pudding at Montrio Bistro in Monterey, CA. So delicious (and I don’t even really like white chocolate!). I make my own version, also, which is also very good.

    I have 1/2 season tickets for a minor league team, and the food is pretty awful. They have a burger that has donuts for the buns. Yikes.

  59. 59.

    cckids

    April 9, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    For Easter dessert, I made a banana cream pie with a peanut butter/shortbread crust, rum-touched whipped cream, and a buttery caramel rum sauce. So yummy.

    For a dessert to (sort of) rival the one Betty showcased: my spouse & in-laws used to order a Spumoni sundae at an Italian restaurant in Omaha. It had what looked like half a quart of spumoni, tons of chocolate sauce & whipped cream & nuts on top. Urgh. I could barely stay at the table when it would arrive.

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    April 9, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    @Elizabelle

    I drizzle some over ice cream, sometimes …

    Simple and elegant:

    A good brand (imported) of framboise (dark and a little syrupy, the kind with the raspberry seeds visible if you can find it) drizzled over vanilla ice cream.

    Yum city.

  61. 61.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    Good. The Walter Scott shooting leads the PBS Newshour. Glad it’s so prominently covered.

  62. 62.

    Mike in NC

    April 9, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    We never order dessert at restaurants or serve it at home, but on our last cruise I had to get the Creme Brûlée after every dinner.

  63. 63.

    Kristin

    April 9, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    @efgoldman: Exactly. I’m not all that picky about food, and I like junk food and sweets. But, that is an abomination.

  64. 64.

    burnspbesq

    April 9, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    @JaneE:

    Any dessert at Claim Jumper.

    This. There isn’t enough insulin in the world to counteract a piece of Claim Jumper carrot cake.

  65. 65.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Sorry to hear that. Was it the travel circadian rhythm disruptions? Hope you are feeling like yourself soonest.

    And put up some pics of your Asian travels, when you can. I’ve never been. Bucket list.

  66. 66.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    @NotMax: that sounds wonderful too. I love kind of simple desserts with good ingredients.

  67. 67.

    NotMax

    April 9, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    @efgoldman

    It’s been a thing at some ball parks for quite some time. Wouldn’t touch it myself.

    Almost always made with those round abominations from Krispy Kreme.

  68. 68.

    burnspbesq

    April 9, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    No matter where your seats are at Citi Field, it’s worth walking out to the joint behind the right field bleachers for the fried calamari.

  69. 69.

    evap

    April 9, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    My college roommates and I used to make a pan of seven layer cookies during finals week and consume the whole thing. What are seven layer cookies? Melt butter in a pan, sprinkle graham cracker crumbs, sprinkle chocolate chips, butterscotch chips, nuts, shredded coconut on the crumbs. Now pour a can of sweetened condensed milk over everything and bake in the oven until it starts to brown. One of the best sugar/fat/calorie bombs around!

  70. 70.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    PBS reports this is the 150th anniversary of the ending of the Civil War. And the top story was shooting of an unarmed black man by a police officer (who lied and would have prevailed without a 21st century Mathew Brady on sight).

    NOTE: they don’t have much more about the shooting. It’s straight into Iran, Christine Lagarde interview, and then Amazon drones. Biz as usual for PBS.

  71. 71.

    gene108

    April 9, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Indian desserts usually use enough sugar to make my teeth hurt. The ratio of ghee:sugar:milk/carb is usually 1:1:1. Some desserts are fried and then dipped in heavy syrup. Most religious occasions are associated with their own special dessert. The only saving grace is that people don’t eat these calorie bombs every day.

    Americans try Indian Desserts for the First Time

    I’m a big fan of the whole series of “‘x’ people try ‘y’ groups food for the first time”.

  72. 72.

    lamh36

    April 9, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    so don’t run, you get shot it the chest (Trayvon ), run and you get shot in the back! Either way if you’re Black u end up dead.

    The dash cam shows #WalterScott leaving car, running away after a traffic stop before he was shot dead by S.C. cop: http://t.co/YkzUFqX7Ja

    ETA: Didn’t the cop claim there was a struggle? Another lie!

  73. 73.

    Cacti

    April 9, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    And may yet prevail.

    He’s going on trial for homicide of a black man in the cradle of secession to protect slavery.

    I wouldn’t put his odds of conviction above 50%.

  74. 74.

    gene108

    April 9, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    OT: Brain is turning to ultra-rapid-cycling ups and downs, so pray for me I guess. This fucking sucks.

    Saying a prayer. Hope you get feel better soon.

  75. 75.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 9, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    @gene108: They should have tried one of those heavy syrup dipped calorie bombs like jalebi or gulab jamun.

  76. 76.

    gene108

    April 9, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    They tried both towards the end.

    EDIT: On the bright side, I’ve probably never seen anyone binge eat Indian sweets like they do a bag of potato chips, so you eat a bit and savor it.

  77. 77.

    burnspbesq

    April 9, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    Dessert to die for? Canteloupe ice cream from this joint.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Van-Dyks-Homemade-Ice-Cream/113503902016882

  78. 78.

    kindness

    April 9, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    I typically sneak in beers as I am not going to pay $10 for a beer but I will buy garlic fries. God they are good. The really sad thing is that at the Giants park, AT&T, the food is really good and there is so much stuff. But I don’t go to games to eat. I go to watch the game and catch a buzz. There again now I have to sneak my vaporizer as AT&T has made those illegal now too. (They can take my vape pen from my cold dead hands)

  79. 79.

    JPL

    April 9, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    @lamh36: At the point he ran, the police officer should have called for backup.
    The man obviously didn’t want to be arrested because he didn’t have insurance.
    This happened in GA.. I posted it yesterday and someone mentioned that the homeowner could be protecting an adult son. You would think that they would want to look for shell casings or something.

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    raven

    April 9, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    @Elizabelle: My wife is from Appomattox and is there. I just talked to her and she was really moved by the ceremony and events. I asked if she saw anyone she knew and she said, no, there were so many folks there from all over but she didn’t see anybody she knew.

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    schrodinger's cat

    April 9, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    @gene108: I have, guys competing as to who could eat most jalebis

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    JPL

    April 9, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    I’ve always preferred pastries and pies to cakes. Many, many decades ago, I would save my allowance and walk to the polish bakery and buy their version of creamed horns. They had pretty good eclairs, too.

  83. 83.

    geg6

    April 9, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    No dessert can ever beat a really well made tiramisu. Believe it or not, the local grocery chain, Giant Eagle, makes an absolutely to die for tiramisu. Costs like $15 but worth every penny.

    And they picked the ultimate ‘Burgh food at PNC Park in my preferred version. That is one delicious sandwich and is just as good as the ones you get at the original Primanti’s. Highly recommend.

  84. 84.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    @Cacti: Yeah. At least the police department fired his ass.

    It’s beyond time to discuss, intelligently, why we have so many shootings of black men (and the occasional extremely unlucky woman of color).

    I think the fact the streets are awash in guns, and the police are scared of the community, plays a big part. Although these are unarmed victims. And the police take themselves for military occupiers.

    Which is not to say that all police are bad. Hardly. But something’s going really, really wrong.

    For example, a white working class dude, John Geer, was shot in his own home a few miles from me, here in Northern Virginia, by police using SWAT tactics. Turned out it was one officer who shot; the other four were witnesses. And then it was 70 minutes before they approached to give medical aid.

    It has now been 18 months since Geer, standing unarmed in the doorway of his home in Springfield, was shot and killed by a Fairfax County police officer, and no one has been charged or cleared in the case.

    As a result of recent developments, we now know that Officer Adam D. Torres, 34, shot Geer in August 2013, and Torres repeatedly told investigators he did so intentionally and without regret. We also know that four other officers and two civilians contradicted Torres’s claim that Geer rapidly jerked his hands to his waist, causing Torres to shoot. Geer had shown Torres a holstered gun, but he placed it on the floor and then kept his hands above his head for 42 minutes before Torres suddenly fired one shot into Geer’s chest, the six other witnesses said. Torres remains on paid administrative duty.

    This happened in a “leafy” and neat little townhouse development. Happened late afternoon on a sunny August day. Geer’s family was shocked to get home and find out what happened. There has been no cohesive explanation, and a lot of dodging by the police.

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    Jacks mom

    April 9, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    My sister makes a trifle with lemon curd, pound cake and fresh berries that is to die for. She’s a good cook.

  86. 86.

    Tommy

    April 9, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    Kind of proud my Cardinals have this Kohn’s Killer Kosher Pastrami Sandwich. If I could just mix that with some of the fries from the other stadiums I’d be in heaven.

    When I used to live in DC and go to a lot of games in Baltimore (before the Nationals were around) there was a kiosk in right field that served the best, bar none, ribeye sandwich I’ve ever had.

  87. 87.

    Valdivia

    April 9, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    It is definitely worth watching. I was stunned at the end.

    ETA: that letter is…something.
    Looks to my untrained eye like the writing made illegible on purpose.

  88. 88.

    Bill Arnold

    April 9, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    @Cacti:
    Hah. Planned parenthood is building the Abortionplex for real!

  89. 89.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    @raven: I wish I had thought of going. Appomattox Court House (name of community; not just a building) is so beautifully preserved, and beautiful rolling hills. Today was kind of grey and rainy.

  90. 90.

    raven

    April 9, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    @Elizabelle: She said she was really cold. She was a twirler at an event 50 years ago so it was special for her. They rang bells at 3:30 to mark the moment the document was signed and and African American rang the first one.

    ps Her dad did the millwork when they rebuilt the McClean house for the Centennial.

  91. 91.

    Betty Cracker

    April 9, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    @lamh36: Even if there was a struggle that somehow occurred between when WS ran out of the dash cam’s field of vision and into that brave fellow’s phone camera range, what the phone camera showed was an unarmed man running away and posing no conceivable threat and being shot in the back. In other words, murder. The struggle, if it happened, is irrelevant at that point.

  92. 92.

    Jacks mom

    April 9, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    @Jacks mom: that should be”triffle “

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    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    More on John Geer case: white dude shot in his own suburban doorway on a sunny afternoon:

    WUSA – CBS local affiliate — Friday, we learned that the Fairfax County police officer who shot John Geer during police response to a domestic violence call was the subject of four internal affairs investigations.

    …The soon to be released reports may shed light on whether officer Adam Torres is prone to anger and whether he was disciplined for cursing out a commonwealth attorney in the courthouse.

    The Geer family wants to know what police supervisors knew about Torres and why they allowed him to be there that day with his gun drawn and pointed.

    That IA investigation of the shooting did not start until the civil suit was filed this past September. Geer’s attorney said the delays smell of a cover-up and seem to be calculated to the detriment of the truth. The judge did not buy any of the counties arguments for not releasing the internal affairs reports.

    The judge also ordered the county to explain whether policies changed in the police department after another police shooting a few years ago,

    The officer who shot Geer in August of 2013, Adam Torres, is still on the force. Four other officers, plus Geer’s father and best friend, all say Torres shot Geer as he stood in the doorway of his house with his hands up.

    Got that? Loads of witnesses, including 4 fellow officers, and this is still 18 months on without charges ….

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    raven

    April 9, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    @Elizabelle: Also, there are events through the weekend.

  95. 95.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    @raven: I’m glad she got to be there. How special to return after 50 years. I’ll search the local news (there and here) for footage.

  96. 96.

    goblue72

    April 9, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    Some of those ballpark items looks quite tasty (Garlic Fries in SF, the Pastrami Sandwich at Busch, Boog’s Pit Beef at Camden, the Pulled Pork in Cincy, the Dungeness Crab in Seattle, even the Ceviche in Miami) But a fair number look like heat lamp Aramark garbage (almost all the other ones)

  97. 97.

    Bill Arnold

    April 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    @Kristin:

    They have a burger that has donuts for the buns. Yikes.

    Don’t know who invented the donut burger, but the Paula Deen donut burger remix videos are worth watching if you like this sort of thing.

  98. 98.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    @raven: What makes me sad is we’re getting so close to the 150th of Lincoln’s murder.

    That is one of the worst events in US history, bar none. John Wilkes Booth did the worst damage imaginable. It’s sad to think how much better Reconstruction could have gone with Lincoln at the helm, and not the clueless Andrew Johnson.

  99. 99.

    MomSense

    April 9, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    @lamh36:

    ..or if you play your music too loud, or need roadside assistance and knock on someone’s door for help, or if you look at a cop with attitude.

    A friend of mine spoke about having “the talk” with her son and she was so distraught about it because there are no rules about what not to do if you are black. She could not guarantee that her advice was right or would work. Infuriating and terrifying are not strong enough words to describe what is happening.

    ETA I guess if I had to pick one word to describe how my friend feels, it is anguish.

  100. 100.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    I’m glad to hear there is still “local color” in the food offerings at ballparks. And some good food out there.

  101. 101.

    lamh36

    April 9, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    So the RWNJ brigade probably figured the dash cam would show a struggle ala Mike Brown allegations, instead it shoes Scott running away? Not struggling for taser, not lunging at officer, but running away.

    so now the “see he struggled” brigade has to say ” he ran” and then defend shooting a man in the back for a traffic stop. So now they say so sad…bullshit, I say make the bastards defeND the bullshit.

    Again, we have the earlier traffic stop in SC where the guy didn’t run, he still got shot.

  102. 102.

    Kristin

    April 9, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    @evap: My uncle makes those, and they are some of my favorites. YUM.

  103. 103.

    MomSense

    April 9, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Praying for you.

  104. 104.

    RSR

    April 9, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    Oh, FFS, crab fries? It’s old bay on fries. And Chickies and Petes was involved in wage theft from their non-ballpark locations employees.

    As mentioned above, FedNuts is a good choice. Or the Schmitter sandwich.

  105. 105.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 9, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Thanks everybody. Yeah, I dunno what it is, other than my general personality deterioration since I started commenting here :P but yeah. We’re talking five cycles a day so far recently.

  106. 106.

    JPL

    April 9, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    @Elizabelle: wow..

  107. 107.

    MomSense

    April 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    @ThresherK:

    Fenway’s best food is the frank? Really?

    Really.

  108. 108.

    shell

    April 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    From my teenaged years, some fuzzy memories of strange layered desserts always involving Cool Whip

  109. 109.

    Mike E

    April 9, 2015 at 6:46 pm

    @MrSnrub: To each, his/her own…the Phanatic’s stand is the hook up for cheap dogs, Harry The K’s is a good spot to eat a sammie and catch some early innings out in left field.

  110. 110.

    Tommy

    April 9, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    @Elizabelle: I wish I could have gone. My father’s PH.d is in Civil War history. When most of my friends were going to say Disney World for their summer vacation I was going to Civil War battlefields. I kind of hated it at the time, but now many years older I find it kind of the coolest thing my father every did, and he did a lot of cool stuff for me.

  111. 111.

    Emma

    April 9, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    The most ridiculous dessert I ever was served — notice I didn’t say I ate — was at a conference dinner. It had been a perfectly acceptable dinner; actually decent identifiable food, not chicken surprise. Then they came out with these neat little plates lined with edible leaves and flowers and three chocolate covered ice cream balls sitting right in the middle.

    Unfortunately, they had kept the ice cream in the freezer until the last minute. Which is fine for the ice-cream, but the chocolate had become basically concrete. We sat around trying to break into them politely until one of the guys, frustrated, tried spearing through with his fork. The little chocolate ball flew off at an angle and landed on someone’s lap.

    We left the hotel as soon as decently possible and crossed the street to the local Dairy Queen.

  112. 112.

    shell

    April 9, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    Today was kind of grey and rainy

    Every day has been grey and rainy. What a fucking Spring.

  113. 113.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Tom’s put up a fresh thread on “Appomattox Day.”

    And Bob Schieffer is retiring from CBS this summer.

    Who else is going to interview John McCain and Lindsey Graham constantly? (I like Bob S; despise the Sunday shows, though.)

  114. 114.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    @Emma: #Dessertfail.

    They weaponized it.

  115. 115.

    Elizabelle

    April 9, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    @Tommy: My sister lives not far from Cold Harbor, and it chills to think what happened in that vicinity.

    It’s interesting to drive the rolling countryside — through all of Virginia and Maryland and PA, and where it hasn’t been developed — thank dog — you can imagine the armies traveling.

    Such a loss.

  116. 116.

    ThresherK

    April 9, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    @MomSense: I went to Fenway once, when Seattle’s Kingdome was falling down and the Mariners took their show on the road. We got to sit 15 rows up from the 3B dugout. And the food I had was a Fenway Frank.

    And in twenty years it hasn’t changed?

    I loves me some Olde Newe Englande tradition, but this is just silly.

  117. 117.

    ThresherK

    April 9, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    @Elizabelle: So that’s what the Schieffer spot was about? I tuned away by instinct; nothing they could tell me about him would make it worth my time by this point.

  118. 118.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    April 9, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: You’re in my thoughts. I’m hoping your doc has some time to get you in soon to address the issue – that many cycles so shortly separated is getting close to a mixed state.

  119. 119.

    WaterGirl

    April 9, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: That has to be hellish. What does your doctor say?

  120. 120.

    chopper

    April 9, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    @jacel:

    But it did include whole red beans and kernels of corn.

    are you sure it wasn’t one of sandra dee’s quote-unquote inventions?

  121. 121.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 9, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): @WaterGirl: of course it sucks and of course it’s hellish.

    Sorry.

    Well, my doc says I’m still bipolar, and a three-week-long globespanning trip was maybe a terrible idea. As I knew. So hopefully

    I can’t finish that thought I’m sorry.

  122. 122.

    chopper

    April 9, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    s’mores pie, bitches.

  123. 123.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 9, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    ETA (edit still isn’t working on my browser, I can give the blogmeister a browser dump if I need to) thanks for everybody who wrote in response

  124. 124.

    cdmarine

    April 9, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    God damn it, that looks fucking amazing.

  125. 125.

    Justawriter

    April 9, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    http://petapixel.com/2015/04/09/doggy-photo-booth-helps-shelter-get-dogs-adopted/#more-162954 for all the puppy lovers out there

  126. 126.

    Tehanu

    April 9, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    A “hot dog” fashioned from a split éclair into which someone has nestled a churro topped by three scoops, whipped cream, chocolate sauce and caramel sauce. Sweet, weeping Mary in a diabetic coma!

    Alas, I have diabetes (type 2) … otherwise, I’d be making this myself instead of posting a comment!

    Also, they have garlic fries at Dodger Stadium and they’re great. The Dodger Dog is only edible if you get the footlong, though.

  127. 127.

    Amir Khalid

    April 9, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    @jacel:
    Tsk, tsk. That’s “Ice Kacang” with a C. (Or “Ice Kachang” in pre-1970s Malay spelling.

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