Hey Guys:
When you’re through here, hop on over to Anne Laurie’s Sunday Evening Open Thread (below) for my
Very Important (to me) Announcement! (at comment #15)
Thanks!!!
2.
raven
Just finished Call the Midwife and now on to Mr Selfridge.
3.
James E Powell
Spoiler alert – Cersei is mean to everybody, sometimes for no apparent reason other than that she seems to enjoy it.
Tried to contribute, got hung up in email addresses and password issues. Have no energy to pursue it tonight, but will tackle again tomorrow. It’s a great project, and I’d like to throw a few coins your way!
5.
JPL
@raven: I don’t remember that last seasons Call the Midwife being so darn sad.
6.
JPL
@SiubhanDuinne: Although it sounds like a good cause or idea, I’m waiting to do more research. I tend to be wired that way though, …random person shows up with a good cause seeking money…
7.
Arclite
Computer died while in the middle of a Supreme Commander game. Now it will start partially, but no beeps and no monitor out. Anyone have a site with some good checklists I can run through? I only find ones for building new computers, not ones that had been working and stopped suddenly. My guess is either the video card (2 years old) or the power supply (8 years old), so I’m leaning toward the latter, but need to be sure.
Answered in that thread. Sounds like a good project.
10.
JPL
@geg6: I’m actually find the most uplifting show on Sunday nights is Wolf Hall. It’s not that the programming is bad, the story lines are real downers.
btw.. when I take care of friends dogs of various sizes, I tend to separate them when I’m gone.
11.
Little Boots
oh, johnny, you know you miss me, cause you totally should.
12.
WaterGirl
@JPL: You might feel better if you heck out raven’s exchange with this person on the other thread.
13.
WaterGirl
I am catching up on the last 6 episodes of Madam Secretary. I had kind of forgotten how much I like this show.
14.
WaterGirl
@geg6: Thanks for mentioning The Good Wife. I had forgotten to check on whether it started on time so I could extend the recording time in case it started late. It did start late, so I extended the time.
Steep, if you’re out there, I am sending you the mind meld.
15.
Little Boots
no omnes?
16.
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL: I tend to be somewhat more cautious now that I’m on a fixed income, but I’ve always been a big believer in helping — however modestly — people, causes, and organizations I believed in or thought sounded interesting.
17.
Hawes
“Nobody’s perfect.”
Varis
18.
the Conster
Too much good TV. Make it slow down so I can catch up!! Need to finish Mad Men, Better Call Saul, Nurse Jackie, Broadchurch, The Returned, Wolf Hall, Call the Midwife, Selfridge and about 4 others.
ETA: Mark Rylance as Cromwell is a revelation. Wow.
19.
Little Boots
omnes, or others.
20.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Ajabu: If raven likes it, that’s all the endorsement I need.
21.
Ajabu
@JPL:
That’s why I included my website (http://www.donmoors.com) and I guarantee you that for at least the past five years those repeated clicks Cole gets daily are me.
If I’m going to be a charlatan, wouldn’t it have been easier to go to a right wing website to chase money?
They apparently fall for anything – although I doubt they’d go for this kind of music.
Research away. Thanks for your interest.
22.
Mayur
Wow, I really am the wooly-headedest of animal lovers.
I still can’t watch the chained dragons without getting sad.
23.
Cain
I’m watching Netflix’s Daredevil and it is *EXCELLENT*!
24.
Mayur
BTW why is it that the first episode of every season exhibits such narrative economy and then suddenly we have to get bogged down in episodes devoted to minor plot points? Aargh!
25.
Tracy Ratcliff
@Arclite: No beeps at all, the motherboard is not starting up, so yes probably power supply.
26.
donnah
Daredevil IS excellent! I totally agree. My initial thought was “oh, jeez, not ANOTHER one” but it’s good, crisp writing, the actors are solid, and the story seems to be building in a satisfying manner. I like how the characters are developing.
Also, the opening credit sequence is awesome. True Detective and Game of Thrones also had wonderful opening sequences.
27.
Belafon
@Mayur: Because most shows are required to fill out 13 episodes at 40-45 minutes. Another advantage of BBC (a season is however many episodes) and Cartoon Network (some of their shows are only 12 minutes long).
@Belafon: I do get that; it’s more the fact that the show does have a putative set amount of real estate (i.e. the books) to cover, and that I feel that the episodes just range from pithy to time-wasting when the requirement to fit one book into 500 minutes of television could yield an excellent economy of narrative.
31.
Mike E
Ugh. The Good Wife has jumped the sharknado… and I’m a fan. Shit.
Save me, Battle Creek, please!
32.
Scamp Dog
@Ajabu: I signed up, since I love the vibes. Good luck!
33.
MomSense
I think I have to figure out how to get some snow in my yard once the last of the snow has melted. The poor dog is going from snow island to snow island looking for a place to pooh.
I’m so far behind and the DVR is so full that before I went out earlier today I canceled the recording of Battle Creek. Now I’m home and in the process of watching the two earlier episodes on demand. The one about the captain’s house burning down was pretty good. Now on to the cereal killer.
@Beatrice: I hate that it is only one hour long. I want to binge watch the whole season. NOW!
44.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: just had a great chat with a berkeley cop about whatever since I accidentally bumped into him and he was like no seriously this is the most boring concert I’ve ever been to as an officer. Everybody has jobs. Ask whatever you want.
ETA: Ask me about my cop at a George Clinton show story sometime.
49.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Itd be better if they didn’t have a surprising number of strobe lights. But the Greek in berkeley is idyllic from any angle, so turning around is no trouble.
50.
Beatrice
@Omnes Omnibus: I was just thinking it was a good thing it wasn’t all on Netflix, or I wouldn’t be getting any sleep tonight.
51.
Omnes Omnibus
@Beatrice: With what I have on my plate tomorrow, it will suck anyway.
52.
divF
@Major Major Major Major: There’s a show at the Greek tonight ?
(I live five blocks from there, so I normally notice).
53.
Omnes Omnibus
@divF: B&S won’t attract a particularly loud crowd.
54.
James E Powell
My favorite moment from my two favorite characters:
Varys: You have compassion.
Tyrion: Compassion? I killed my lover with my bare hands. I shot my own father with a crossbow.
Varys: I never said you were perfect
55.
Tree With Water
This occurred just offshore the county that borders my own to the north. The article states the divers were from the east coast, and inexperienced to boot. Those poor guys apparently picked a treacherous patch of water to dive, with underwater rock formations that create vicious currents (it’s illegal to abalone dive with a breathing apparatus).
“Three abalone divers died Sunday afternoon in Mendocino County’s Caspar Cove after a group of five friends set out in search of the prized mollusks and met instead with tragedy, emergency officials said.
Two other men from the party ran into trouble, as well, but were rescued from the rocks at the base of the hundred-foot cliffs that form Caspar Headlands State Beach and Caspar Headlands Natural State Reserve on the central Mendocino Coast, emergency personnel said..”.
How the hell does Mance die? He LIVES through this encounter in the book.
60.
Major Major Major Major
@Tim in SF: Martin and HBO have said they’re not exactly paying the most attention to the books after the first.
61.
Sly
@Tim in SF:
What would Mance’s continued presence add that couldn’t be handled by something more direct?
It’s all about narrative economy. The set photos from this season’s shooting have revealed substantial deviations from AFFC/ADWD, along with the fact that many characters, and their attendant plot lines, have simply been cut altogether. The bulk of what’s been removed pertains to various parties of characters making their way to Meereen. And though this means a bunch of fan favorites like Arianne Martell and Euron Greyjoy won’t be in the series, it also means that the show audience will be spared the biggest clusterfuck of entangled stories in AFFC/ADWD. This gives the showrunners more of an opportunity to focus on the more central plotlines and characters.
62.
Sherparick
I think AFFC/ADWD are wonderful collections of short stories, but in doing so Martin indulged his imagination by creating an Army of characters, twisted plot lines, and red herrings. And the whole work is kind of mess which is why I think he is having a problem finishing it. My biggest criticism of Martin is that he and his editors should have kept the plot focused on Tyrion, Daenerys, and the four younger Stark children (and maybe that should just be Sansa, Aarya, and Bran as Rickon seems like the original red herring), and how they would eventually link up and resolve the arc of the story and their tragedies (ASOIAF is an ironic Tragedy and Martin’s way playing homage to Shakespeare’s History Plays and King Lear while tweaking Tolkein’s apparent ‘Happy Ever After Ending” in LOTR (although I disagree with his characterization of LOTR. I don’t think LOTR has a particularly happy ending – I now think of LOTR as another piece of irony, part of the literary tradition of post WW1 U.K., of Parade’s End, Good-bye to All That, etc.).
63.
Mayur
@Tim in SF: no he doesn’t. Reread ADwD. The scene is exactly the same except that he’s in a cage and it’s multiple archers rather than just Jon Snow.
64.
DLG
@Mayur: ADwD has a “twist” several chapters later. LSS Tim in SF is correct, and an entire subplot in the books is dependent on that. The way the show shot the Mance execution scene has made the twist, and thus also the subplot, impossible.
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Ajabu
Hey Guys:
When you’re through here, hop on over to Anne Laurie’s Sunday Evening Open Thread (below) for my
Very Important (to me) Announcement! (at comment #15)
Thanks!!!
raven
Just finished Call the Midwife and now on to Mr Selfridge.
James E Powell
Spoiler alert – Cersei is mean to everybody, sometimes for no apparent reason other than that she seems to enjoy it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Ajabu:
Tried to contribute, got hung up in email addresses and password issues. Have no energy to pursue it tonight, but will tackle again tomorrow. It’s a great project, and I’d like to throw a few coins your way!
JPL
@raven: I don’t remember that last seasons Call the Midwife being so darn sad.
JPL
@SiubhanDuinne: Although it sounds like a good cause or idea, I’m waiting to do more research. I tend to be wired that way though, …random person shows up with a good cause seeking money…
Arclite
Computer died while in the middle of a Supreme Commander game. Now it will start partially, but no beeps and no monitor out. Anyone have a site with some good checklists I can run through? I only find ones for building new computers, not ones that had been working and stopped suddenly. My guess is either the video card (2 years old) or the power supply (8 years old), so I’m leaning toward the latter, but need to be sure.
Little Boots
oh, fine, johnny, don’t you miss me?
geg6
Ugh, no thanks. But The Good Wife should be good.
@Ajabu:
Answered in that thread. Sounds like a good project.
JPL
@geg6: I’m actually find the most uplifting show on Sunday nights is Wolf Hall. It’s not that the programming is bad, the story lines are real downers.
btw.. when I take care of friends dogs of various sizes, I tend to separate them when I’m gone.
Little Boots
oh, johnny, you know you miss me, cause you totally should.
WaterGirl
@JPL: You might feel better if you heck out raven’s exchange with this person on the other thread.
WaterGirl
I am catching up on the last 6 episodes of Madam Secretary. I had kind of forgotten how much I like this show.
WaterGirl
@geg6: Thanks for mentioning The Good Wife. I had forgotten to check on whether it started on time so I could extend the recording time in case it started late. It did start late, so I extended the time.
Steep, if you’re out there, I am sending you the mind meld.
Little Boots
no omnes?
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL: I tend to be somewhat more cautious now that I’m on a fixed income, but I’ve always been a big believer in helping — however modestly — people, causes, and organizations I believed in or thought sounded interesting.
Hawes
“Nobody’s perfect.”
Varis
the Conster
Too much good TV. Make it slow down so I can catch up!! Need to finish Mad Men, Better Call Saul, Nurse Jackie, Broadchurch, The Returned, Wolf Hall, Call the Midwife, Selfridge and about 4 others.
ETA: Mark Rylance as Cromwell is a revelation. Wow.
Little Boots
omnes, or others.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Ajabu: If raven likes it, that’s all the endorsement I need.
Ajabu
@JPL:
That’s why I included my website (http://www.donmoors.com) and I guarantee you that for at least the past five years those repeated clicks Cole gets daily are me.
If I’m going to be a charlatan, wouldn’t it have been easier to go to a right wing website to chase money?
They apparently fall for anything – although I doubt they’d go for this kind of music.
Research away. Thanks for your interest.
Mayur
Wow, I really am the wooly-headedest of animal lovers.
I still can’t watch the chained dragons without getting sad.
Cain
I’m watching Netflix’s Daredevil and it is *EXCELLENT*!
Mayur
BTW why is it that the first episode of every season exhibits such narrative economy and then suddenly we have to get bogged down in episodes devoted to minor plot points? Aargh!
Tracy Ratcliff
@Arclite: No beeps at all, the motherboard is not starting up, so yes probably power supply.
donnah
Daredevil IS excellent! I totally agree. My initial thought was “oh, jeez, not ANOTHER one” but it’s good, crisp writing, the actors are solid, and the story seems to be building in a satisfying manner. I like how the characters are developing.
Also, the opening credit sequence is awesome. True Detective and Game of Thrones also had wonderful opening sequences.
Belafon
@Mayur: Because most shows are required to fill out 13 episodes at 40-45 minutes. Another advantage of BBC (a season is however many episodes) and Cartoon Network (some of their shows are only 12 minutes long).
Juju
@James E Powell: Jeeze!! You rooned it for me.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Dragon Chow?
Mayur
@Belafon: I do get that; it’s more the fact that the show does have a putative set amount of real estate (i.e. the books) to cover, and that I feel that the episodes just range from pithy to time-wasting when the requirement to fit one book into 500 minutes of television could yield an excellent economy of narrative.
Mike E
Ugh. The Good Wife has jumped the sharknado… and I’m a fan. Shit.
Save me, Battle Creek, please!
Scamp Dog
@Ajabu: I signed up, since I love the vibes. Good luck!
MomSense
I think I have to figure out how to get some snow in my yard once the last of the snow has melted. The poor dog is going from snow island to snow island looking for a place to pooh.
MomSense
@efgoldman:
I may have to go get a truckload of the stuff. Or maybe I could get the shavings the zamboni drops from the ice rink. Poor thing has only known snow
WaterGirl
@MomSense: Henry did the same thing! But once it was all gone, he adjusted without skipping a beat.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@WaterGirl:
I’m so far behind and the DVR is so full that before I went out earlier today I canceled the recording of Battle Creek. Now I’m home and in the process of watching the two earlier episodes on demand. The one about the captain’s house burning down was pretty good. Now on to the cereal killer.
Omnes Omnibus
God damn, Wolf Hall is well done.
max
@Omnes Omnibus: God damn, Wolf Hall is well done.
Seconded. I was thinking I wasn’t going to buy it but Rylance is awesome.
Real shame about Mance Rayder.
max
[‘I think they managed to wedge everyone but Arya and the Boltons into this episode.’]
WaterGirl
@Mike E: I am watching The Good Wife now. I have to ask, was it the “between two ferns” reading that led you to write that?
Major Major Major Major
At the all ages matinee Belle & Sebastian show in Berkeley
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Is it wicked not to care?
Beatrice
@Omnes Omnibus:
Thirded. Amazingly good.
Omnes Omnibus
@Beatrice: I hate that it is only one hour long. I want to binge watch the whole season. NOW!
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: just had a great chat with a berkeley cop about whatever since I accidentally bumped into him and he was like no seriously this is the most boring concert I’ve ever been to as an officer. Everybody has jobs. Ask whatever you want.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: No one gets my jokes.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: well I did. But I had an anecdote to tell.
Let’s see. Well they’re playing Boy with the Arab Strap now so bye
mouse tolliver
Michiel Huisman. Oh yeah.
And he’s on Orphan Black too.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: I feel better now. Enjoy the show.
ETA: Ask me about my cop at a George Clinton show story sometime.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Itd be better if they didn’t have a surprising number of strobe lights. But the Greek in berkeley is idyllic from any angle, so turning around is no trouble.
Beatrice
@Omnes Omnibus: I was just thinking it was a good thing it wasn’t all on Netflix, or I wouldn’t be getting any sleep tonight.
Omnes Omnibus
@Beatrice: With what I have on my plate tomorrow, it will suck anyway.
divF
@Major Major Major Major: There’s a show at the Greek tonight ?
(I live five blocks from there, so I normally notice).
Omnes Omnibus
@divF: B&S won’t attract a particularly loud crowd.
James E Powell
My favorite moment from my two favorite characters:
Varys: You have compassion.
Tyrion: Compassion? I killed my lover with my bare hands. I shot my own father with a crossbow.
Varys: I never said you were perfect
Tree With Water
This occurred just offshore the county that borders my own to the north. The article states the divers were from the east coast, and inexperienced to boot. Those poor guys apparently picked a treacherous patch of water to dive, with underwater rock formations that create vicious currents (it’s illegal to abalone dive with a breathing apparatus).
“Three abalone divers died Sunday afternoon in Mendocino County’s Caspar Cove after a group of five friends set out in search of the prized mollusks and met instead with tragedy, emergency officials said.
Two other men from the party ran into trouble, as well, but were rescued from the rocks at the base of the hundred-foot cliffs that form Caspar Headlands State Beach and Caspar Headlands Natural State Reserve on the central Mendocino Coast, emergency personnel said..”.
Major Major Major Major
@divF: matinee. Belle & Sebastian
divF
@Major Major Major Major:
Missed it completely. And I was out doing the grocery shopping this afternoon, so I would have noticed the traffic.
A low-key crowd that takes public transportation ?
Major Major Major Major
@divF: the cop did say it was the most boring show he’d ever been on duty for.
Tim in SF
How the hell does Mance die? He LIVES through this encounter in the book.
Major Major Major Major
@Tim in SF: Martin and HBO have said they’re not exactly paying the most attention to the books after the first.
Sly
@Tim in SF:
What would Mance’s continued presence add that couldn’t be handled by something more direct?
It’s all about narrative economy. The set photos from this season’s shooting have revealed substantial deviations from AFFC/ADWD, along with the fact that many characters, and their attendant plot lines, have simply been cut altogether. The bulk of what’s been removed pertains to various parties of characters making their way to Meereen. And though this means a bunch of fan favorites like Arianne Martell and Euron Greyjoy won’t be in the series, it also means that the show audience will be spared the biggest clusterfuck of entangled stories in AFFC/ADWD. This gives the showrunners more of an opportunity to focus on the more central plotlines and characters.
Sherparick
I think AFFC/ADWD are wonderful collections of short stories, but in doing so Martin indulged his imagination by creating an Army of characters, twisted plot lines, and red herrings. And the whole work is kind of mess which is why I think he is having a problem finishing it. My biggest criticism of Martin is that he and his editors should have kept the plot focused on Tyrion, Daenerys, and the four younger Stark children (and maybe that should just be Sansa, Aarya, and Bran as Rickon seems like the original red herring), and how they would eventually link up and resolve the arc of the story and their tragedies (ASOIAF is an ironic Tragedy and Martin’s way playing homage to Shakespeare’s History Plays and King Lear while tweaking Tolkein’s apparent ‘Happy Ever After Ending” in LOTR (although I disagree with his characterization of LOTR. I don’t think LOTR has a particularly happy ending – I now think of LOTR as another piece of irony, part of the literary tradition of post WW1 U.K., of Parade’s End, Good-bye to All That, etc.).
Mayur
@Tim in SF: no he doesn’t. Reread ADwD. The scene is exactly the same except that he’s in a cage and it’s multiple archers rather than just Jon Snow.
DLG
@Mayur: ADwD has a “twist” several chapters later. LSS Tim in SF is correct, and an entire subplot in the books is dependent on that. The way the show shot the Mance execution scene has made the twist, and thus also the subplot, impossible.