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Apparently Nate Silver is accusing Vox of stealing their charts or something.

 

Team WIN THE MORNING of course has more, but you get the general idea.

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  2. 2.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    I would probably care more save that Nate chucked his credibility a long time ago when he sold out to the NYT, and then turned his site into the shitty linkbait fest it is today.

    All the same, don’t steal charts, quotes, material, music, videos and other internet stuff without asking, folks. Not OK.

  6. 6.

    askew

    I am in a meeting where we are talking about what kind of leadership shadow I cast and something about mood elevators. Kill me now.

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @askew: Well, he seems to be keeping his hand in both milieus. You know, back to his roots (baseball stats) but still looking at political numbers on the side.

  10. 10.

    askew

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Ah, thanks. I have a hard time keeping track of these pundits/bloggers. I thought he did great work in the 2008 primary and general election but I lost track of him after he went to NYT because I am too cheap to pay for a subscription.

  11. 11.

    Amir Khalid

    Someone was asking yesterday, whatever happened to Nate Silver after The New York Times? So now we know.

    In other news, another Republican Boy-Senator has declared his presidential candidacy: Marco Rubio. FiveThirtyEight does seem to like Marco’s chances, at least of getting the nomination.

  13. 13.

    askew

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Sure seems like we’ve been the victim of consultants. A co-worker of mine said his leadership shadow that he cast was aggressively indifferent. I kind of like that response. Meetings like this make me fantasize about winning the lottery.

  14. 14.

    Cervantes

    You do this all the time, to 538 & others.

    When will he publish the statistical analysis that proves this assertion?

  17. 17.

    Mike J

    @CONGRATULATIONS!:

    I would probably care more save that Nate chucked his credibility a long time ago when he sold out to the NYT, and then turned his site into the shitty linkbait fest it is today.

    The stuff he wrote while at the Times seemed to be of the same quality as before, and his current site doesn’t have any stupid “one weird trick” or “watch Jon Stewart destroy X” headlines. They’re all pretty much what they say.

  20. 20.

    MomSense

    It strikes me that it is no wonder we don’t get decent coverage of the value of labor, wage equality, workplace issues, etc when the new business model seems to be news organizations that use content generated by others to build their own brand without attribution or sometimes even paying the creators.

    Huffington Puffington is the big one that comes to mind but there are others and these are supposedly liberal outlets.

  21. 21.

    Hal

    What in he’ll. So Eric Harris wasn’t even shot by a real cop?

    According to Tulsa World, Bates, who has donated thousands of dollars worth of items to the Sheriff’s Office since becoming a reserve deputy in 2008, is a Tulsa insurance company executive. He was working undercover as a member of the Tulsa County Sheriff’s Office Violent Crimes Task Force.

    The World reported that “Bates is classified as an ‘advanced reserve,’ which means he ‘can do anything a full-time deputy can do.’”

  24. 24.

    Violet

    @Amir Khalid: I think 538 has lost their minds with thinking Rubio has a chance at the nomination. There’s no way. I’m hoping he just does some damage to Jeb! in Florida, that’s all.

  25. 25.

    Valdivia

    the drenched in starburst article about Rubio at buzzfeed is an instant classic. By same guy who was on Romney beat in 2012.

    ETA: @Violet: I saw another article at a liberal site saying that he was a great second choice because if he could fool voters about his policies he seems like a great candidate. Wut?

  26. 26.

    scav

    ooooo, we stand enough people casting leadership shadows in a circular meeting on the right morning (we can lure them with doughnuts) we could construct a Leadershiphenge and use the synergy so created to predict future earnings.

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    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @Hal: The whole story is sickening. As they all are. I keep hoping we will pull our collective heads out of our asses in this country and acknowledge the occupation by law enforcement. And how it isn’t exactly safe for the occupied population.

    Of course, when middle class white folks start getting killed at the same rate people of color and those with brain disorders die, things will change. Is it too much to ask that we try to change things before that?

  28. 28.

    Mustang Bobby

    Yo, @voxdotcom: Y’all should probably stop stealing people’s charts without proper attribution.

    I see Nate’s gotten a lot more street since he went to ESPN. He must now be getting down with his bad self.

  29. 29.

    Bobby B.

    Vox articles show up a lot on Yahoo. I bit the clickbait once and my Adblock was sweating bullets (it was already taxed by fending off the Yahoo page).

  33. 33.

    shortstop

    @Hal: The fact that dorky wealthy cop wannabes can pay to play sheriff—”Please, let me tase him! Let me!”—is appalling. Jesus god, the corruption. Add the deputy who told a dying (at his “colleague’s” inept hands) man to “Fuck his breath” and the whole story makes me so mad I start shaking every time I see a reference to it.

  36. 36.

    Mike in NC

    Rubio’s vanity campaign looks to have a life expectancy of about six weeks before getting buried by JEB!

  37. 37.

    pete

    Hmm. Yglesias’s piece opens (with links both to the site and the article):

    Nate Silver and his team at FiveThirtyEight put together this great graphic …

    It does, below, reprint the graphic but it’s hard not to read Silver’s complaint as him being butthurt about criticism, since Yglesias basically says his own chart shows he’s full of shit. In that context, I think it’s fine to print the chart, so long as you attribute it, which he did.

  38. 38.

    Amir Khalid

    @Hal:

    The Tulsa County Sheriff’s Office classified a 73-year-old man as capable of doing a full-time deputy’s job. Does it employ 73-year-old deputies? Would it?

    Robert Bates is a rich insurance man who has donated thousands of dollars worth of weapons and vehicles to the TCSO, and US$2,500 to the current Sheriff’s reelection campaign. It appears from the story that TCSO commonly appoints rich people as deputies and they give it donations of cop gear. I really, really hope there is no connection between Mister Bates’ appointment and his donations.

  39. 39.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Amir Khalid:

    I really, really hope there is no connection between Mister Bates’ appointment and his donations.

    Hahaha. You are a very droll man.

  40. 40.

    Mike J

    @pete: The voxmaps twitter feed prints the graphic with no attribution, just a link to Vox.com. The “story” there is generally a paragraph, the graphic, and a link to the source.

  41. 41.

    scav

    Should this go out with or without attribution to original in this thread? Leadershiphenge says cloudy, uncertain.

    I always will remember it was a year ago November
    I went out to play policeman on a morning bright and clear
    I went and shot the maximum my toy badge will allow
    Two bystanders, seven suspects and a cow.

    I was in no mood to trifle I took down my trusty rifle
    Went out to stalk my prey, what a haul I made that day
    Evidence was planted and we covered up somehow
    Two bystanders, seven suspects and a cow.

    The law was very firm it took away my permit
    The worst punishment I ever endured
    It turned out there was a reason, cows were out of season
    and one of the suspects was being filmed.

    People ask me how I do it and I say there’s nothing to it
    Shiny badge and blue suit and when something moves you shoot
    And theres ten stuffed heads on the precinct wall right now
    Two bystanders, seven suspects and a pure-bred Guernsey cow.

  44. 44.

    askew

    @Violet:

    Rubio seems like a total joke candidate. I think Cruz has more of a chance than Rubio but the media is sure taking Rubio more seriously.

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    @Violet:

    I think 538 has lost their minds with thinking Rubio has a chance at the nomination.

    They’re trying to use a data-driven model, but as far as I can tell they don’t have nearly the quality of data they do with their polling aggregation. They still feel like they need to say something about the election, so they’re coming up with excuses to play the horse race.

  46. 46.

    Violet

    @askew: I think Rubio’s going to be eaten alive by Cruz. They can both play the Cuba card and Rubio looks like a baby while Cruz plays True Believer much more convincingly. I think Walker will make a clumsy attempt to send in some goons to kneecap them first. That would have been Christie’s role but he’s a laughingstock now.

    @Roger Moore: Yeah, I think it’s all bout the horse race. They don’t play that game, they don’t get clicks, they don’t get ads and they don’t stay afloat.

  47. 47.

    RSA

    @Roger Moore:

    They still feel like they need to say something about the election, so they’re coming up with excuses to play the horse race.

    I got this same impression reading 538’s take that Clinton winning the next election is a 50/50 proposition. Not because I strongly disagree, but because the data require so much interpretation at this point to make that argument.

  48. 48.

    EriktheRed

    One of the developments in GoT which a brought a smile to me face is seeing Sansa’s bratty mama’s-boy cousin Robin sent off to military school (or at least their version of it). I know it’s not really his fault, but that kid definitely needed a smack upside the head.

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    @Ripley: That was funny. I don’t think I’ll ever order the Wednesday special again – “the cuban” – without laughing.

  51. 51.

    cokane

    A lot of ppl on here probably like Vox because they’re sufficiently liberal. But they are garbage journalism. They rarely produce any kind of original reporting, rarely interview, and rarely do any of their own deep analysis. Silver is right to call them on their bullshit.

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