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You are here: Home / Civil Rights / Racial Justice / This Week In Blackness / Blaming Society Isn’t An Apology, White Girls

Blaming Society Isn’t An Apology, White Girls

by Elon James White|  April 17, 20151:42 pm| 38 Comments

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Two white female students at Grapevine High school in Texas are finding themselves in hot water after recording a hateful, racist rap which includes such lovely ideas as hanging black boys from trees. As punishment they were asked to write an apology. Their response shows that they have no idea what they’re talking about:

The girls repeatedly threaten to kill black boys who look at them sexually and make stereotypical references to black penis size, in addition to homophobic comments and offensive remarks about Latino and Asian-American students. The girls, however, insist they are not bigoted. “The song does not portray in any way how I actually feel about people,” one of the girls wrote. “I am a very open-minded person and I enjoy being part of a diverse family and diverse community. I am being raised to be respectful of all people, cultures and differences.” The other girl said they were only mirroring the society they grew up in.

Ah, what? Is there some way we can keep people this dense away from society?

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  1. 1.

    jim

    April 17, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    even money that one of these dim wits ends up representing the great state of texas in congress.

  2. 2.

    Calouste

    April 17, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    The other girl said they were only mirroring the society they grew up in.

    Well, if she means by that that suburban Texas is full of white racists, she might have a point.

  3. 3.

    sweetgreensnowpea

    April 17, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    a complete and thorough side note, with apologies…that pharrel williams “happy” is now the theme song for a pharmaceutical acne prescription drug.
    bullshit is hard to outrun…

  4. 4.

    Arclite

    April 17, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    Podcast direct download link is broken. It’s been broken every single time. Does anyone have an alternative way of downloading the podcast?

  5. 5.

    MaximusNYC

    April 17, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    And it’s double-posted… like always.

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    sweetgreensnowpea

    April 17, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    white/black. gay/straight. rich/poor, beautiful/not so beautiful…there isn;t a day i don’t apologize to the earth for the obliviousness of humans…

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    scav

    April 17, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    White girls admitting they don’t have the internal gumption to be anything but pale, passive, perfectly reflecting surfaces of whatever surrounds or is projected upon them? Don’t mess with Texas, they’re a hall of fun-house mirrors, being all respectful and all with their lynching and shit.
    I mean, a Whole Two Years ago, how could they have a clue about racism, homophobia, basic kindness, indoor plumbing and the fact that the internet is public! 2013, fur gods sake, the Dark Ages, I mean!

  8. 8.

    Mike J

    April 17, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    @Arclite: Add _TWIBnation at the very end, right before the .mp3

    http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/twibiu/TWR_677_TWIBnation.mp3

    If you want you can remove everything before traffic.libsyn.com.

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    Steve

    April 17, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    Those girls are no better, or worse, than the myriad hip hop and rap artists weaving violence and hate against others, including women, into their lyrics. In fact maybe those girls learned from that culture and being from Texas has little to do with it.

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    Amir Khalid

    April 17, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    I had two comments up here and they’ve disappeared. Pout.

  11. 11.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    April 17, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    @MaximusNYC:

    It’s super funkydoodle today, because I get one set of comments if I come from the thread below and a different set of comments if I come from the thread above. That usually doesn’t happen.

  12. 12.

    Betty Cracker

    April 17, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    @Amir Khalid: They aren’t gone — they’re in the double-post comments.

  13. 13.

    Amir Khalid

    April 17, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    It’s weird. I click forwards from John Cole’s Sooner post and I get the comment thread with mine at #1. I click backwards from Zandar’s post about Jeb and I get this comment thread.

  14. 14.

    cokane

    April 17, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    High school students… seriously guys?

  15. 15.

    Shell

    April 17, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    Add this to the list of non-apologies (classic: Sorry if you were offended..)

    Theirs: “It’s not my problem, it’s yours.”

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    Slugger

    April 17, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    Racism’s greatest strength comes from the fact that we only define the most outrageous acts as racist. These girls can and do say that they are not racist because there are worse actors out there. “Good” people can’t be racists, only the Byron dela Beckwiths are racist. In this way good people enable racism.

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    mattminus

    April 17, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    OMG! Two 14 year old girls said something stupid! This is serious business and we should probably make sure that their lives are ruined forever!

  18. 18.

    Shell

    April 17, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    A happy article for a Friday afternoon: Doggy Photo booth!

    http://petapixel.com/2015/04/09/doggy-photo-booth-helps-shelter-get-dogs-adopted/

  19. 19.

    Arclite

    April 17, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    @Mike J: Awesome, thanks Mike!

  20. 20.

    Arclite

    April 17, 2015 at 3:56 pm

    @Shell: Or, “It’s not my problem, it’s society’s.”

  21. 21.

    Suzanne

    April 17, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    @Steve: Sadly, I agree with you. Rap is possibly one of those arenas where race is probably less of a knock down the social hierarchy than sex. They hear lots of sexist, hateful lyrics in it….and then make their own racist, hateful words back. People are assholes. News at 11.

  22. 22.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    April 17, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    @Suzanne:

    IIRC, it’s been pretty well demonstrated that the biggest audience for “gangsta” rap is white teenagers. It ended up crowding out s lot of the other genres for quite a while because white suburban teenagers just couldn’t get enough of it. Give the people what they want, I guess.

  23. 23.

    Bonnie

    April 17, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    The whole state of Texas needs to slide quietly into the Gulf of Mexico.

  24. 24.

    Suzanne

    April 17, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne (tablet): Truth.

    From my observation, women of any color are more marginalized in hip-hop (both the performers and the listeners) than minorities. This is one of those social places where I think it is far more advantageous to be male than it is to be white.

    All of which is to say that these girls are assholes, following in a long tradition of assholery.

  25. 25.

    srv

    April 17, 2015 at 4:33 pm

    I, for one, think we should be making examples of 14 year olds.

  26. 26.

    srv

    April 17, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    Check this now radioactive female programmer’s lament about brogrammer’s sensibilities

    http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/programmer-denied-job-clubbing/

  27. 27.

    MomSense

    April 17, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    Squirrel you’re perfect

    LMAO at that whole segment.

  28. 28.

    Karen S.

    April 17, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    @mattminus:
    I grew up in a predominantly white Chicago suburb. I knew white girls like this. When we were all in junior high school and high school together, some of them, when they bothered to notice me, had no problem calling me the N word. Or they’d giggle when their white boyfriends would call me the N word. So yeah, they were 14 when they did this, but you know what? I did have white classmates at that age who somehow knew better than to say anything like that.
    Do I want these Texas girls’ lives ruined forever? No, but I’m glad they were caught, and I’m glad they’re being mocked for it. Maybe that’s just the 14 year old in me who never got back at those bigoted classmates from years ago. It’s petty and childish, I know. I think I’ll now try to be the bigger and better person I guess I’m supposed to be.

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    April 17, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    @Shell: That’s so awesome! I wonder if the flashes are what brings out all the different doggie faces.

  30. 30.

    mattminus

    April 17, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    @Karen S.:

    Their school and parents should definitely be addressing it, but I’m baffled that its a thing that thousands of adults are discussing. And, since the internet never forgets, this is now on their permanent record.

  31. 31.

    kc

    April 17, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    So now we DO think rap lyrics mirror character?

    Just trying to keep up here.

  32. 32.

    Visceral

    April 17, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    @kc: Ironically only when it’s white people doing it.

  33. 33.

    Steve

    April 17, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    Karen s…I assume you are black….have you ever used the n word with your friends? What do you the about blacks calling blacks the n word?

  34. 34.

    Steve

    April 17, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    Think

  35. 35.

    Petorado

    April 17, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    This nation’s rash of school shootings has proved that crazy talk coming from teens can mean that there is something more serious lurking below. The video could have been some girls mimicking what they’ve seen elsewhere, and maybe it’s all a front. But people who know these girls better, and the context of the situation, may see more hiding beneath the surface that is let on in news reports.

    But it’s irksome to see this attitude that saying the words everyone wants to hear about a bad situation somehow fixes everything. Those words are supposed to mean you’ve changed your mentality about the offending actions, and it doesn’t appear these girls get that.

  36. 36.

    Karen S.

    April 17, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @Steve:
    No, I’ve never used that word with among any of my friends who come from a variety of racial and ethnic backgrounds. But I don’t represent ALL black people, because you know we’re not a monolith, so you can shrug off what I’ve said if you like.

  37. 37.

    ItAintEazy

    April 17, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    @Karen S.:

    And just imagine what all those little shitbirds are doing now.

  38. 38.

    Paul in KY

    April 21, 2015 at 9:34 am

    @srv: She was late to the interview. Major no no, there.

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