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Wednesday Morning Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  April 22, 20158:13 am| 78 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, General Stupidity

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President Obama is visiting the Everglades today and will call attention to the damage caused by climate change. I hope he sets a record for working the phrase “climate change” into his speech, since our shitty governor allegedly banned it. And if the ambulatory dildo who is our governor bothers to attend the speech, I hope he winces like a salted slug each time the president utters the phrase. Happy Earth Day!

[Photo source: Florida-everglades.com]

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  1. 1.

    Elizabelle

    April 22, 2015 at 8:23 am

    Ambulatory dildo. LOL. And the return of the salted slug.

    Let me know if you hear what time the speech is. Would love to see it. Maybe it will stream, or MSNBC will carry it …

  2. 2.

    Violet

    April 22, 2015 at 8:24 am

    Will Governor Salted Slug try to fine the President if he says “climate change”?

  3. 3.

    Cervantes

    April 22, 2015 at 8:25 am

    Free association: Obama as Lincoln Vail, “the man on patrol in the Everglades.”

  4. 4.

    Mustang Bobby

    April 22, 2015 at 8:25 am

    @Elizabelle: From the local NBC affiliate in Miami:

    Everglades National Park will be closing its main road and some buildings near its main entrance because President Barack Obama is visiting.

    Obama will visit to the park Wednesday afternoon to talk about global warming’s threat to the U.S. economy. The speech isn’t open to the public.

    But check local listings…

  5. 5.

    satby

    April 22, 2015 at 8:27 am

    Reposted from below because YAY!

    And, totally off topic but you all have been my lifeline: tax refund has landed and in 10 minutes the Quicken Loans offices open and I can bring the mortgage current!!! Woo-Hoo

    The long dark winter is over… though we just had a hailstorm that looked like snow on the ground. But that’ll melt!

  6. 6.

    Punchy

    April 22, 2015 at 8:28 am

    Not sure what my responsibilities are on Earth Day. Do I need to hug a compost pile? Re-use my underwear? Save tap water and only drink beer?

  7. 7.

    NotMax

    April 22, 2015 at 8:31 am

    Happy Earth Day!

    Earth?

    Is that old thing still kickin’ around?

  8. 8.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 22, 2015 at 8:33 am

    Wow, quite the mosquito breeding ground in that photo. Still pretty tho.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    April 22, 2015 at 8:33 am

    I hope he sets a record for working the phrase “climate change” into his speech

    I’d settle for a single “ambulatory dildo.”

  10. 10.

    Cervantes

    April 22, 2015 at 8:34 am

    @Elizabelle:

    You can expect the speech around 3:45 or 4 this afternoon. I am told it will be carried live on C-SPAN, at least on their web-site.

  11. 11.

    Mike J

    April 22, 2015 at 8:35 am

    It’s April 21st[1] and everybody knows today is Earth day.

    [1] Or not.

  12. 12.

    MomSense

    April 22, 2015 at 8:36 am

    @satby:

    YES!! I’m going to send you a message on Etsy. Your products are wonderful.

  13. 13.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    April 22, 2015 at 8:37 am

    @satby: Yay!

  14. 14.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 22, 2015 at 8:38 am

    @Mustang Bobby: See, King Obummer is closing another National Park.

  15. 15.

    Cervantes

    April 22, 2015 at 8:38 am

    @Punchy:

    Those are things you should be doing every day, and some of them more frequently than that, even.

  16. 16.

    Elizabelle

    April 22, 2015 at 8:39 am

    @Cervantes: Excellent. Thanks.

  17. 17.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 22, 2015 at 8:39 am

    @satby: WOOHOO! is right. Good for you and many more to come.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    April 22, 2015 at 8:40 am

    @Punchy:

    Re-use my underwear?

    Or someone else’s.

  19. 19.

    Belafon

    April 22, 2015 at 8:41 am

    He needs to include the line “Now, I know some people don’t want to talk about climate change, and they won’t even let those around them talk about it.”

  20. 20.

    Morzer

    April 22, 2015 at 8:44 am

    “Governor Rick Scott and I discussed climate change today.. or as he prefers to call it REDACTED.”

  21. 21.

    NotMax

    April 22, 2015 at 8:44 am

    @Baud

    Sometimes one is forced to improvise when out of coffee filters…

  22. 22.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    April 22, 2015 at 8:44 am

    @Baud: I’ve seen some for sale on the intertubes, but they’re kinda pricey and they might not fit you.

  23. 23.

    ThresherK

    April 22, 2015 at 8:46 am

    I just want to see Joe Biden zoom by in one of these.

    We all know he’s thinking of it.

  24. 24.

    chopper

    April 22, 2015 at 8:47 am

    would love it if O added something to his speech like “I know this is crazy-pants land where they shoot ‘mud-pooters’ from swamp boats and deep-fry old spray paint cans, but even the boil-backs and yard sleepers here in the Everglades can see that climate change is real”.

  25. 25.

    PurpleGirl

    April 22, 2015 at 8:47 am

    On one of my trips to Florida, my friends took me on a tour of the Everglades. The guide made a point of saying not to put our hands in the water because of alligators and sawgrass. My friend pointed out he’d never buy a house on land from the drained areas because mosquitos still come back every year to spawn. But I did find the Everglades to be beautiful.

    I saw a science show on the Everglades and learned that it is not swamp land but a very wide and shallow slow-moving river. The tour made that real to me.

  26. 26.

    Baud

    April 22, 2015 at 8:48 am

    @chopper:

    That is totally Obama’s style.

  27. 27.

    Vtr

    April 22, 2015 at 8:51 am

    It’s 8:45 am here, and virtually everyone in the neighborhood is celebrating Earth Day as they celebrated yesterday and the day before – by running their gasoline powered leaf blowers. Am I the only one who remembers rakes?

  28. 28.

    NotMax

    April 22, 2015 at 8:51 am

    @ThresherK

    Rode on one of those 50+ years ago.

    Strepitous doesn’t begin to describe it.

  29. 29.

    satby

    April 22, 2015 at 8:56 am

    @Baud: No way! Isn’t that how people get knocked up? I know the nuns told me in the 60s that just touching a boy’s drawers could make me pregnant.

  30. 30.

    satby

    April 22, 2015 at 8:56 am

    @MomSense: Oh, thanks! Only animal they’re tested on is me!

    Edited to add: well, the dogs tested the dog shampoo bars, but they’re human shampoo bars with different essential oils.

  31. 31.

    Violet

    April 22, 2015 at 8:56 am

    @Punchy: If you’re a white person, your responsibilities include turning on all the lights and electrical appliances all day and all night to give the big middle finger to Al Gore (he’s fat, you know) and those soshulist nanny state lieberals.

  32. 32.

    Baud

    April 22, 2015 at 8:57 am

    @satby:

    I suppose it’s possible depending what part of your body you touch them with.

  33. 33.

    Phylllis

    April 22, 2015 at 8:59 am

    @satby: Yay indeed!

  34. 34.

    satby

    April 22, 2015 at 9:00 am

    @Baud: the nuns implied hands… too dirty to think of anything else.
    There’s a reason they call it “Catholic guilt”, but it does give us lots of funny stories.

  35. 35.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 22, 2015 at 9:02 am

    @chopper: What language was that written in?

  36. 36.

    Violet

    April 22, 2015 at 9:02 am

    @satby: Congratulations! What a relief!

    How’s the shop going? Did you implement any of the redesign stuff people mentioned here? Mother’s Day is coming up. Seems like a good time for a promo.

  37. 37.

    MomSense

    April 22, 2015 at 9:05 am

    @satby:

    I’m going to try the shampoo bars next-one for the dog and a couple for the rest of us.

  38. 38.

    Germy Shoemangler

    April 22, 2015 at 9:12 am

    @Vtr: There is a special circle of hell reserved for the man who invented the leaf blower.

  39. 39.

    rikyrah

    April 22, 2015 at 9:12 am

    Luvvie’s written about the Michael Eric Dyson/Cornel West Beef

    as only Luvvie can….LOL

    …………………………

    Love and Hip Hop Academia: The Michael Eric Dyson Takedown of Cornel West

    CHILEEEEEEE… listen. You know I love me a good read and wig snatch. Well it was served up on a platter last night when The New Republic released an essay, penned by Dr. Michael Eric Dyson. It was title “The Ghost ofCornel West“ and it was a 10,000 word epic takedown of the Afro’ed Intellectual that many respect and some revere. It is the talk of social media right now because so much tea was spilled.

    Let the record show that I am neither Team Dyson nor Team West. I am Jon Snow (I know nothing) to the intricacies of Black Academia. I am not in that space so I am going off what I read here and the little I’ve known before.

    What are my thoughts on the whole thing? I’m glad you didn’t ask, because I have questions.

    * What made Michael Eric Dyson write this piece right now?

    Again, I know I am not on their jock to know what both are up to enough but what made Dyson drop this ETHER at this moment? I know that West has come for him hard in the past so it ain’t crazy out of the blue but I’m trying to figure out what made him do it right now.

    http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/2015/04/michael-eric-dyson-cornel-west.html

  40. 40.

    satby

    April 22, 2015 at 9:14 am

    @Violet: I have been able to implement some suggestions and I have more to do this weekend. The downside of more hours at work is less hours for the online stuff, and making, staging, taking decent pictures, writing good descriptions, and posting the whole lot is more time consuming than I expected, especially when there are animals demanding attention too. But slowly I’m getting the suggestions done, they were a big help.

  41. 41.

    WereBear

    April 22, 2015 at 9:17 am

    And today is Eddie Albert’s birthday:

    How Earth Day & the Hapless Farmer from Green Acres Are Related

    He made a specialty of playing bombastic fools and sniveling cowards, and he was neither one.

  42. 42.

    satby

    April 22, 2015 at 9:17 am

    @satby: Speaking of: keep watching the Etsy shop, I will have Mother’s Day baskets available for shipping May 1 ready this weekend. And a promo just for Juicers. Thanks Violet!

  43. 43.

    Germy Shoemangler

    April 22, 2015 at 9:21 am

    @rikyrah: Chauncey Devega posted some interesting thoughts on the subject, comparing it to professional wrestling feuds.

    http://www.chaunceydevega.com/2015/04/what-are-drums-saying-booker-michael.html

  44. 44.

    Violet

    April 22, 2015 at 9:28 am

    @satby: Yeah, running your own one-woman business is hard work. Lots to do. Some you probably love like making the soaps. Some you may not like perhaps the marketing or something else. Lots to do for sure.

  45. 45.

    rikyrah

    April 22, 2015 at 9:34 am

    Campaign cash becomes early differentiator between parties for 2016
    Rachel Maddow contrasts the rush to court billionaire among Republican hopefuls for 2016 with the Democrats’ and Hillary Clinton’s campaign posturing against the role of big money in politics (though obviously no less willing to spend to win).

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/campaign-cash-becomes-early-2016-difference-431827523774

  46. 46.

    currants

    April 22, 2015 at 9:39 am

    Related Question: not so long ago I saw an old movie/documentary in a Natural Resources class about the Everglades, and their filtration function. Great maps (and wildlife images)–showing how water moved all through central FL down to Everglades, and how development was cutting off that water flow. It was from the 70s or 80s, and I don’t know who made it. Does anyone here know anything about that or of any similar film/video that does a very meticulous job documenting the water pathways? (I’m lookin’ at you especially, Betty!) I have to go out and can’t hang around here but will scour the thread later for any suggestions you may have–and thank you in advance.

  47. 47.

    mainmata

    April 22, 2015 at 9:46 am

    Is that a photo of the Everglades or a close-up of a Chia Pet plant?

    South FL is ultimately doomed with respect to salt water intrusion. Until about 23 million years ago, FL was under the ocean and it is mostly made up of limestone and sediments from the erosion of the Appalachians. With sea level rise, this porous geology leaves the state irreversibly vulnerable. Short of a massive building of energy intensive desal plants or piping in water supplies, the long-term future of South FL is not good, I’m afraid.

  48. 48.

    raven

    April 22, 2015 at 9:48 am

    @mainmata: I was interested to learn that the white sand of the panhandle beaches was just that sediment from the erosion of the Appalachians

  49. 49.

    raven

    April 22, 2015 at 9:50 am

    @WereBear: It was always hard to shake his role in Attack.

    “Was an active participant in the battle of Tarawa (Nov. 1943), one of the bloodiest battles of World War II and in the history of the U.S. Marine Corps. Albert was credited with rescuing up to 70 wounded Marines while under enemy fire. He was awarded the Bronze Star with a combat “V”. He did not speak about this publicly until it was mentioned in several television documentaries about the battle in the 1990s.”

  50. 50.

    Betty Cracker

    April 22, 2015 at 9:52 am

    @rikyrah: OMG, that was hilarious!

    @currants: I have a friend who is something of an expert in the field. I will ask her and let you know!

  51. 51.

    PaulW

    April 22, 2015 at 9:52 am

    the good news is I always feel a thrill when Obama happens to be in the same state I’m in.

    the bad news is he’s not here to arrest Rick “No Ethics” Scott for his many and varied violations of state sunshine laws and federal electioneering and finance reporting laws.

  52. 52.

    WereBear

    April 22, 2015 at 10:03 am

    @raven: It was always hard to shake his role in Attack.

    I love that movie, and he’s one of the main reasons. There’s no reason for it to be as obscure as it is!

  53. 53.

    Violet

    April 22, 2015 at 10:06 am

    @rikyrah: I did not know there was a feud. That article was funny. Man, did Michael Eric Dyson really go after Cornel West. Ouch.

  54. 54.

    raven

    April 22, 2015 at 10:07 am

    @WereBear: I’m glad you brought him up. I looked for more info and he was a boat officer on the USS Sheridan. Their website included this picture of the ship and the destroyer in the upper right is the kind my dad was on. They were in several actions together so it might be the Crosby.

  55. 55.

    japa21

    April 22, 2015 at 10:10 am

    April 22nd is always a special day in our household. Second because it is Earth Day. First, because it is Mrs. Japa’s birthday. And this year she is thrilled that the weather has cooperated here in Chicago by spitting snowflakes from the sky.

    Well, maybe thrilled is not the right word.

  56. 56.

    Tree With Water

    April 22, 2015 at 10:10 am

    I’d like to see Obama rake that idiot governor of yours over the coals whether he’s in attendance or not. The president could and should call him out as someone without the sense to dig latrines downstream, unworthy of the power invested in his office by the people of Florida. Obama won’t, of course, but just once I’d like to see him unleash his inner Chang.

  57. 57.

    Cervantes

    April 22, 2015 at 10:15 am

    @currants:

    not so long ago I saw an old movie/documentary in a Natural Resources class about the Everglades, and their filtration function. Great maps (and wildlife images)–showing how water moved all through central FL down to Everglades, and how development was cutting off that water flow. It was from the 70s or 80s, and I don’t know who made it. Does anyone here know anything about that or of any similar film/video that does a very meticulous job documenting the water pathways?

    Take a look at Water’s Journey: Everglades by Karst Productions (2006).

  58. 58.

    Mike in NC

    April 22, 2015 at 10:21 am

    @Tree With Water: “Obama vs Florida Man”, coming soon on SyFy channel.

  59. 59.

    Cervantes

    April 22, 2015 at 10:23 am

    @Tree With Water:

    just once I’d like to see him unleash his inner Chang.

    He is going to Florida to beat Rick Scott about the head with climate change.

    That is his “inner Chang.”

  60. 60.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 22, 2015 at 10:29 am

    @Cervantes: I shoulda known, Wes Skiles. A great cave diver, died way too soon.

  61. 61.

    the Conster

    April 22, 2015 at 10:30 am

    Jeebus, I’m going to miss this president’s style and grace. It’s remarkable that he’s been able to retain his equanimity after the rafts of shit he’s been given for 6 years.

  62. 62.

    shortstop

    April 22, 2015 at 10:35 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Wow, quite the mosquito breeding ground in that photo. Still pretty tho.

    The third baseman and I are huge fans of the Everglades — love the birding, the gators, the other wildlife, the peace once you get off road — but we never get bitten as much as we do there, even during the winter months. We’ve even been deep into Amazonia and the Pantanal, and those were mosquito cakewalks compared to the ‘glades. Still worth it, though.

  63. 63.

    Tree With Water

    April 22, 2015 at 10:36 am

    @Cervantes: I’m telling you Obama will pull his punches. I don’t doubt that he possesses one of the meanest mouths (in the best sense of the term) in American political history, but he’s only allowed the American people brief glimpses of it as POTUS. Which might be all for the best. I shall ever remain a “go for their collective throat 24/7” type of guy where the GOP is concerned.

  64. 64.

    shortstop

    April 22, 2015 at 10:40 am

    @rikyrah: That was a combo platter of tasty and delicious.

  65. 65.

    Betty Cracker

    April 22, 2015 at 10:53 am

    @shortstop: I am so looking forward to West’s inevitable retaliatory screed too! I can’t abide either one of them, so watching them club each other like baby seals will be an unmitigated pleasure!

  66. 66.

    J R in WV

    April 22, 2015 at 11:00 am

    Closest I’ve ever gotten to the Everglades is driving to Miami across Alligator Alley.

    Have visited other FL state parks with swamps as the core attraction, and enjoyed seeing the wildlife. On the whole, I prefer skeeter-free natural wonderlands.

    Even the Arizona deserts.

  67. 67.

    Betty Cracker

    April 22, 2015 at 11:12 am

    @J R in WV: You’ve been right in the thick of it, then. Skeeter repellent with a high DEET percentage is the key to enjoying the Glades.

  68. 68.

    Cervantes

    April 22, 2015 at 11:13 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I shoulda known, Wes Skiles. A great cave diver, died way too soon.

    Yes.

    National Geographic published a lot of his work. Here’s an example from around the time he died.

  69. 69.

    Southern Beale

    April 22, 2015 at 11:17 am

    Welcome to America, NRA-style. Can’t wait to see how this lawsuit plays out.

  70. 70.

    Betty Cracker

    April 22, 2015 at 11:30 am

    @Southern Beale: Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ! I hope the lawsuit utterly bankrupts every organization and official involved in approving, designing and implementing those drills.

  71. 71.

    shortstop

    April 22, 2015 at 11:41 am

    @Betty Cracker: The mosquitoes I’ve met in the ‘glades are all, “Oh, you’ve got Deet? FUCK YOUR DEET!” Then one of them gets under each elbow and they lift me off my feet and carry me through the air before unceremoniously dropping me.

    Still, like I said, totally worth it. It’s a magical environment. Unlike our friend JR, I feel very at home in swampy surroundings, which probably says something about my level of evolution.

  72. 72.

    Felanius Kootea

    April 22, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    @rikyrah: You know, the whole thing leaves me embarrassed for both West and Dyson. And publishing it in the New Republic 20 years after Wieseltier’s takedown of West in that same mag was a dick move! But something terrible is going on with Cornel West and I hope he has good friends that he listens to. I hope the higher power he believes in gives him the strength *not* to reply.

  73. 73.

    Cervantes

    April 22, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    @Felanius Kootea:

    And publishing it in the New Republic 20 years after Wieseltier’s takedown of West in that same mag was a dick move!

    Could not agree more.

  74. 74.

    JustRuss

    April 22, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    Going to Florida on Earth Day to speechify about climate change. Brilliant. I have to say Obama is about the best lame duck ever, I wish he’d gone into “I drank your milkshake!” mode sooner.

  75. 75.

    Original Lee

    April 22, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    The end of the world is near. I actually agree with McMegan almost completely on something.

  76. 76.

    EthylEster

    April 22, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: think pythons!

  77. 77.

    currants

    April 22, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @Betty Cracker: THANK YOU! It was a grainy, old video, but nonetheless visually incredibly powerful.

  78. 78.

    currants

    April 22, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @Cervantes: Thank you–will do. I’m sure that is much more recent (by decades) than the one I saw, but it still might be useful. Much appreciated!

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