Game of Thrones Open Thread by John Cole| April 26, 20158:39 pm| 43 CommentsThis post is in: TelevisionFacebookTweetEmailEnjoy!
efgoldman will be pissed off – Montreal beat Ottawa in hockey.
Sunday night is PBS night.
Wolf Hall is really good. Mark Rylance is a revelation. I’ve never seen him in anything, and what a performance.
@the Conster: Yep, you can see his Cromwell quietly taking mental notes and storing them away for later use. And the calm and matter of fact way that he took apart the young Percy was scary.
@the Conster: I definitely agree but I still want to know how Thomas Brodie-Sangster, hasn’t aged since Love Actually. I want what ever he is taking.
@JPL: He’s gotten taller.
@Omnes Omnibus: I could live with that trade-off. Gotta admit when I first saw him, I was taken aback and used to google to confirm my suspicion.
Howard Beale IV
@Thor Heyerdahl: And the WIld play the Black Hawks in the next round. Now the Lighting have to face the Wings in Hockeytown.
D’oh! Forgot to turn on the HBO East. Getting off the computer now for fear of spoilers, although it seems like hardly anyone talks GOT on these threads.
Most of the drama takes place in the close ups on his face. That’s some acting job, when you understand what’s at play by the way he looks at someone.
Khaleesi is going to Westeros!
Still LMMFAO at POTUS last night.
The way he stands there, absorbing the verbal blows. Exactly how it was in the book!
I love the music! It goes so well with his face.
My one question in this episode is whose agenda is better masked: Littlefinger’s or Bolton’s. If the latter, I don’t know how much concomitant abuse of Sansa I could take.
Okay, tonight was a big reveal of a book divergence in GOT. Anybody see it and want to chat about it?
Mike in NC
David Benioff, producer of GoT, wrote a fabulous novel called “City of Thieves” loosely based on the experience of his grandfather in Leningrad during WW2. Hope they make a movie someday.
Major Major Major Major
Shameless plug, The Fish #5 is up
That Sansa meets and maybe marries Reek/Ramsey?
That Jamie goes to Dorn to rescue Myrcella?
There’s not really many of the book subplots left in the TV show.
I think this will be the season that the TV series jettisons the book completely and goes its own GRRM authorised way.
Trying to remember where Sansa is in the books at roughly this point. Way I remember it, Bolton passes off Jeyne Poole as one of the Stark girls and marries Ramsay to her. Sansa remains in the Vale pretending to be nobody much? Have I got that about right?
@gogol’s wife: I also enjoy the performance of the actor who plays Norfolk.
An interesting angle in in tonight’s Wolf Hall was More vs. Cromwell on torture.
One death on tonight’s episode that I’d been waiting a long time for. And it was even more pitiful then it was in the book. At least in the book the guy wasn’t crying like a baby.
Basically, yes. Baelish eventually tells her that his plan is to reveal her identity and reconquer the North in her name after she marries Harrold Hardyng, the heir presumptive of Robert Arryn. Whether or not he’s being honest is subject to debate.
@Mayur: @Laertes: @Viva BrisVegas:
I knew they decided to jettison the books, but I was surprised anyway. (I wasn’t really thinking about Jaime from last week). The key plot change tonight was the Jeyne subplot was jettisoned entirely in favor of Sansa. And yes, that disturbs me, because I don’t know how much of Ramsay’s probable abuse of Sansa I can handle. After Season 3 and the torture scene(s) with Theon and the scene in Season 4 with Jaime raping Cersei, I’m not sure what I can handle. At a certain point fast forwarding just ruins the story.
Beware of angry dwarves in need of brothels.
@Lavocat: Words to live by, I am sure.
Ultimately, this depends on how quickly Stannis gets to Winterfell. Or, more to the point, how quickly Sansa gets to Stannis.
Yes, well, we’re getting towards the end (in some ways) of book V. And book VI is brewing.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the divergence of the disappearance of Stoneheart and the Bortherhood without Banners, and thus Brienne chasing after Sansa.
[‘It suddenly feels like it’s going too fast.’]
God, where are the Wolf Hall people?
The disappearance of LSH/BWB was a big topic of discussion last season. Now the big kerfuffle is mostly related to the disappearance of “Griff” and the Golden Company, with a side order of Arianne Martell and the Greyjoy brothers.
@Omnes Omnibus: Sorry man, I switched things up and watched GOT tonight. I’ll probably watch Wolf Hall tomorrow.
@Tenar Darell: I’ll let it go this time. Don’t let it happen again. Or there will be consequences or something….
@max: Well, there’s always the possibility that they show magic coming back with more than the dragons, white walkers, three eyed crows and twitching corpses. Lady Stoneheart would be so cool. Wandering the Vale or terrorizing the Freys.
@Sly: And maybe some extra spies to help things along too. (ETA too)
@Omnes Omnibus: Well, I can’t plead the dog ate my homework or any throne-involving rationale, but they’ve not even released it online yet please don’t hurt me, I’m already weak, wounded and vulnerable from refreshing . . could I attempt something proufound about a minor character or backdrop detail to redesm myself? I’m really hoping to see more of Anton’s/More’s specs? The real exchequer board? Will that suffice?
Sorry, I went to bed. Yes, Bernard Hill is amazing!
Those specs are so cool!
@gf120581: Yep, pretty much right with the book on that one. And the little nod that Stannis gives John Snow at the end. An acknowledgement that they share more than most in this show in character and belief.
I thought they all were! Especially that exchange with Alice More. They rerun it here tonight, and I can’t wait to see it again.
Anyone watching with HBO Now? On my Mac I got about 1/2 hr in and then things started freezing for 5-10 seconds at a time, until it became unwatchable.
Just like last week.
Anyone else encounter this? Fixed it?
We get it again on Thursday night.
@BretH: I use HBOGo, and had no problem watching episode two on Friday. I’d try running speedtest (ookla has a decent one) while playing HBONow and then run speedtest while it’s not but you’re streaming a free tv show, like via the PBS or CBS Apps, that way you can verify its definitely HBONow. Then email tech support. It’s also possible that it was simply really high demand. Maybe it won’t happen today.
I never read the books, so I have nothing invested in old storylines. Fearful for Sansa, too, but I suspect a alliance with Theon/Reek, who seemed to hint from his various reactions that part of him knows what’s going on, hates what he sees, and is bubbling back up to the surface.
Waiting for Sansa to recognize Theon. He does hide his face every time he sees her.
I hope this turns into more than “let’s torture Sansa until Stannis shows up.” That’s not what I gathered, given the interviews I read–those indicated that Sansa would be an active player now. I read rumors of her being folded into both Jeyne Poole and Lady Stoneheart storylines. Now wondering if she will be a combo of both. If the Sansa who had to be stopped from pushing Joffrey off the top of the tower comes to the fore again, things could get interesting.
Though truth be told, I’m more concerned about Ramsay’s crazy gf than Ramsay himself. She’s bound to go off on someone, and I don’t think she possesses brakes. At least Ramsay has his dad to step on him when needed.
I always liked Sansa–never got the Sansa hate. Hoping for the best here, which I know is bound to lead to tears.
Three plotlines headed toward Winterfell. Holding my breath.
IMO Sansa hate mostly comes from the books. GRRM really tries to get into the character of a sheltered 13-year-old medieval girl with her… Which leads to a great deal of stupid behavior, dithering, and helplessness that modern readers are bound to find frustrating. Also, she takes five books to really begin showing the kind of strength and subtlety that she evidences in S4E8 when covering for Littlefinger.
I’m one of those people who has been very glad with the different direction the show has taken; I agree sometimes with the book purists about individual moments, but many of those (Jaimes rape of Cersei, for example) have been acknowledged as directorial missteps, which are going to occur in any TV show.
It’s also nice to know that if I really want loads of naarative about ironborn and two(!) multi-book red herring subplots, I can read the books and have them.