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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Excellent Links / Excellent Read: “CNN and Baltimore”

Excellent Read: “CNN and Baltimore”

by Anne Laurie|  April 29, 20159:23 pm| 92 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Post-racial America, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?, Our Failed Media Experiment

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Jeb Lund, at Rolling Stone, on “a crossfire with 100% casualties“:

… [Wolf] Blitzer is a man of breathtaking stupidity… His service seems to be offering permanent credulity to power and permanent skepticism to its challengers. He can be induced to parrot talking points by even junior-varsity hacks… If he could reanimate the corpse of someone shot in the back by police to ask one question, it would probably be, “Why did you do this?”

So his interview yesterday with community organizer DeRay McKesson about Monday night’s rioting in Baltimore couldn’t have been more Blitzerian even via the intervention of a force foreign to him, like effort.

Raw Story posted highlights and video, so click over if you want a fuller experience. After asking McKesson about his plan for the day’s protests and ignoring his reply, here are Blitzer’s questions, in order:

1. “You want peaceful protests, right?”

McKesson seems a little stunned, then agrees, then goes on to cite both how police departments have been anything but peaceful and that there had been days of peaceful protests in Baltimore and around the country. Blitzer replies:

2. “But at least 15 police officers have been hurt, 200 arrests, 144 vehicle fires — these are statistics. There’s no excuse for that kind of violence, right?”

McKesson then replies that there is also no excuse for the seven people killed by Baltimore PD in the last year.

3. “We’re not making comparisons. Obviously, we don’t want anybody hurt. But I just want to hear you say that there should be peaceful protests, not violent protests in the tradition of Dr. Martin Luther King.”

It’s all right there, everything in the Dealing With Aggrieved Minorities Playbook, a script even a Blitzer can read.

First, McKesson, a guy who is not a national black leader, has to explain himself. He’s there, so now he’s the representative — because, connect the dots, while that rioting happened, McKesson was also black at the time — and it’s implied that he has to account for things here. It doesn’t matter that McKesson had fuck-all to do with it and lacked the clout to stop it, let alone any contact with the people responsible; he’s on TV.

Second, there’s the instant begged question that what happened must be disavowed. Blitzer hasn’t the capacity to engage the idea that legitimate grievances might underpin what happened in Baltimore, that fire and rage might be ugly manifestations of a greater truth, that rage might have a fuel from an outside source. It has to be condemned first. That’s the only purpose for this segment. That it will be ended before any greater systemic discussion occurs is almost a given; just get the condemnation on the record, then — oops, will you look at that — we’re out of time, back to the studio.

Third, the moment McKesson can use the language of outrage at violence to impugn a system, Blitzer immediately declares that “we’re not making comparisons.”…

…It’s hard to get exciting and memorable footage of systems. Systems take a lot of time to identify and study, and their scope spans more than a day. They take time and perspective to explain. And they’re not very sexy. Ta-Nehisi Coates’ “The Case for Reparations” covered two centuries and required nearly 16,000 words. Techcrunch’s history of redlining and racial exclusion in just the peninsula of the San Francisco Bay Area took nearly 12,000. And you can report those only once… A fire is different. A fire can burn for days. A fire is instantly interesting in a way that those stories are not, and a fire has the gift of being in some ways self-explanatory. “Why are we looking at that?” Because it is fire, and we all are Beavis. “Why is the fire there?” Because something was lit on fire.

… We can all understand a thing on fire or a thing destroyed, because we all to some extent own things. There is an immediate calculable worth or sympathy to the destruction of a property, and almost always our attitude toward that property’s purpose is neutral, meaning that its destruction can always be fascinating but can quite often be pitiable as well. We can project the relative worth of our things onto any property and gain a sense of proportion as to what was lost. Moreover, the destruction of a thing can rarely be blamed on the thing itself, making it (usually) morally neutral and the harm brought to it almost always the agency of someone else. This, amongst other reasons, is why we have a “Broken Windows” police policy instead of a “Broken Peoples” policy. We implicitly understand that someone broke a window, and that it is not the window’s fault. Fixing broken windows is good. A broken person can be blamed on just about anything, but in a pinch, we make it easy on ourselves and just blame them. Fixing them is now a moral hazard.

The resultant constant murmur of this kind of opportunistic filming and morally null thinking is basically “property, commerce, property, commerce, property, commerce” running like a dull pop-punk bass line…

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  1. 1.

    RaflW

    April 29, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    I heard about 10 minutes of CNN in an O’Hare departure lounge yesterday and I was ready to throw heavy objects at the screen.
    Wolf was letting Don Lemon lecture us on why the mayor was wrong to let kids riot, and besides, most of the 250 people arrested were adults, so, ummm, I dunno. It was all supposed to mean something.
    But all I could hear was whitey butthurt extraordinaire.
    I had to get up and just wander and not be near any of those $@#^ ubiquitous airport TVs.
    I swear peoples IQs must drop measurably for each hour of CNN endured.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    April 29, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    I love columnists like Lund and Pareene, but insiders like Wolf are bullet proof from sarcasm laden jabs. For fuck’s sake, Cohen, Kristof and BoBo all still have columns on prime real estate.
    I’m still in awe of the BriWi takedown. How bad do you have to fuck up to be that guy?

    ETA, IOW, whose possibly underage child did he have sex with to get booted out of the club?

  3. 3.

    mdblanche

    April 29, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    [Wolf] Blitzer is a man of breathtaking stupidity

    Obligatory link.

  4. 4.

    Derelict

    April 29, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    As I posted over at Roy’s place, Wolf Blitzer is far and away the stupidest person on TV. Others act stupid; some actors portray stupid. But Blitzer is genuinely stupid.

    I would not be surprised to learn that CNN has a golfcart and river to ferry Wolf around the CNN studios because otherwise he keeps getting lost and trying to broadcast from the supply closet down on the fourth floor.

  5. 5.

    raven

    April 29, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    Looks like they may be hookin in Times Square.

  6. 6.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    My uncle emailed me a link to this today.

  7. 7.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 29, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    Haven’t clicked on the highlights and video link provided, but I think McKesson was the guy who told Blitzie, “You’re saying that broken windows are more important than a broken spine.” Possibly slightly paraphrased, but that was the message, and it is spot on.

    I noted in a thread downstairs how ridiculous it is for CNN to be running a “Less Than One Hour Until Baltimore Curfew” crawl as a “BREAKING NEWS” story, as though it’s a countdown to the crystal ball dropping in Times Square on New Year’s Eve. It’s not fucking “breaking news,” it’s information that anyone with access to a timepiece and first-grade arithmetic can figure out.

    In its earliest incarnation, CNN was known as “Chicken Noodle Network.” Their reporters learned to be journalists during the first Gulf War, and the network justifiably dominated cable news for several years. But now they’ve reverted to their old “Chicken Noodle” status. It’s like a broadcast version of “shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations.” Sad to see.

  8. 8.

    raven

    April 29, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Rachel started with the same countdown bullshit over and over.

    there she went again

  9. 9.

    Geeno

    April 29, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    Honest to F-ing God, when was the last time Wolf Blitzer said or asked anything that had worth or significance?
    It’s like they throw him out there to get rhetorically pantsed by interviewees for the entertainment value of it. He’s a pure sock puppet for the elite, and he looks every bit as clueless as the elite when confronted by reality.

  10. 10.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 29, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    @raven: I don’t care who does it, it’s fuckin stupid.

  11. 11.

    raven

    April 29, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: yea well, it’s huge fucking banner on MSNBC now.

    BREAKING NEWS

  12. 12.

    cmorenc

    April 29, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    What bothers me is not so much that Blitzer would ask McKesson whether and how the protests he was involved in organizing would be peaceful (legitimate question) but the confrontational and pejorative way Blitzer questioned McKesson about the matter – as if it was fair to presume McKesson intended to organize a violence-prone form of protest, and McKesson had the burden to convincingly prove otherwise. It was as if Blitzer thought he was in a courtroom cross-examining a hostile witness.

  13. 13.

    Geeno

    April 29, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    @raven: BREAKING NEWS WIND

  14. 14.

    raven

    April 29, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    Rachel just reported that there is a story that there was another dude in the van with Freddy and, without being able to see Freddie, says it sounded like he was ” trying to hurt himself.”

    Don’t even think about jumping my ass for this.

  15. 15.

    lamh36

    April 29, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    @raven:

    MUTHA……

    So someone who currently a prisoner, claims that Freddie Gray was banging around the vehicle and saying he was “trying to injure himself”. WTF! Some mofo in jail trying to get out of fuckin’ jail is claiming he Gray I guess severed his own spine. So I guess Gray also broke his own god damn voice box

    This muthas…trying to incite people. CAN YOU BET WHO LEAKED THIS TO THE WASHPO!!!!!

    WashPo link…http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/prisoner-in-van-said-freddie-gray-was-banging-against-the-walls-during-ride/2015/04/29/56d7da10-eec6-11e4-8666-a1d756d0218e_story.html?postshare=2081430357437310

  16. 16.

    Geeno

    April 29, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    @raven: Is your ass worth risking my marriage to jump?

    @lamh36: Where was he when the this first became a thing?
    Convenient that he should appear after the shit has hit the fan.

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 29, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    @raven:

    Don’t even think about jumping my ass for this.

    As if.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    April 29, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    @Geeno:

    He’s got a new sewer system. Just sayin’.

  19. 19.

    Steve Gravelle

    April 29, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    Wait, this is Rolling Stone criticizing someone’s “journalism?” Irony is dead.

  20. 20.

    raven

    April 29, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    WASHINGTON, April 29 (Reuters) – Freddie Gray, whose death after being injured in Baltimore police custody sparked rioting in the city, was “banging against the walls” of a police van and “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” a prisoner being transported with Gray has said, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

    The prisoner’s account was contained in an application for a search warrant that was sealed by the court, the Post said. The prisoner, who is currently in jail, was separated from Gray by a metal partition and could not see him, the paper said.

    Gray, 25, was found unconscious in the van when it arrived at a police station on April 12. He had suffered a spinal injury and died a week later.

    The Post said the affidavit was part of a search warrant seeking the seizure of the uniform worn by one of the officers involved in the arrest or transportation of Gray. (Reporting by Eric Beech; Editing by Peter Cooney)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3061824/Witness-says-Freddie-Gray-trying-hurt-Baltimore-police-van-Wash-Post.html

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    @Geeno:

    Where was he when the this first became a thing?

    Negotiating his deal.

  22. 22.

    raven

    April 29, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    I’d like to stick around but it’s sleepy time in Georgia!

  23. 23.

    raven

    April 29, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The prisoner’s account was contained in an application for a search warrant that was sealed by the court, the Post said.

  24. 24.

    Elie

    April 29, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    LOL.. its pretty hard to sever your own spinal cord. Honestly, they have to do better lying….

  25. 25.

    Geeno

    April 29, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’ll accept your legal interpretation.

    It’s still pretty ridiculous BS.

  26. 26.

    Elie

    April 29, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    BTW, nice post AnneL.

  27. 27.

    Baud

    April 29, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    @Elie:

    He really wanted to stick it to The Man.

  28. 28.

    SatanicPanic

    April 29, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @mdblanche: That link never gets old. That should be included in future history books (because future history books will show videos on their pages) when people want to know why mass media lost its relevance.

  29. 29.

    lamh36

    April 29, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    So Freddie Gray broke his own spine in 3 fuckin’ spaces, along with his voice box, with his hands cuffed and with a pronounced limp in the video that has already circulated.

    And a prisoner who is currently in jail himself, sure doesn’t have any reason to be “cooperating” or corroborating or fuckin’ lie for the police does he? I mean surely that prisoners’ “not” trying to get in the good graces of local PD and prosecutors.

    Fuq this shit. I’m an even tempered person, but this shit right here has me pissed. This bitch of an old white lady at my job today had to nerve to say “well he (Freddie Gray) deserved what he got…” Bitch…I walked away before I said something at my job to her fuckin ‘ bigotted face.

    Bitch..

  30. 30.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @raven: I wonder how often this prisoner has happened to see or hear things that have been what cops wanted to hear? Every time he’s been in trouble or just most of the times?

  31. 31.

    Corner Stone

    April 29, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: One has to remember that during the GWB admin, prisoners in Gitmo were accused of asymmetrical warfare if they attempted suicide.
    So this all out spine destroying self-move in the back of a van seems about right, if you ask me.

  32. 32.

    Redshift

    April 29, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    @raven: I’m trying to imagine how someone could claim to know the difference between someone throwing himself against the wall and someone else throwing him against the wall. And more to the point, how someone receiving this information could do anything before asking that question.

  33. 33.

    Corner Stone

    April 29, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    @lamh36:

    This bitch of an old white lady at my job today had to nerve to say “well he (Freddie Gray) deserved what he got…” Bitch…I walked away before I said something at my job to her fuckin ‘ bigotted face.

    How does anyone say that? I mean, feel like that, and all that hate and fear? Sure. But say it out loud amongst other humans?

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    @Corner Stone: Your theory is indeed as credible as the accusations of asymmetrical warfare.

  35. 35.

    lamh36

    April 29, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    And some folk want Black people to move on from this bullshit…fuq moving on..

  36. 36.

    Baud

    April 29, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I’m trying to figure out the relevance of this story to a search warrant.

  37. 37.

    Peale

    April 29, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    @Elie: yeah. It’s really designed to handle falls and whatnot. At least the kind that one can have in a van, which has at least two cells inside. Did he take a running leap from three feet? Even if he tried to hang himself…from what? The vans roof beam?

    I believe I read in the Sun summary of the awful police cases that the police tried to claim that one of the victims fractured he own skull, which is more plausible than this.

  38. 38.

    trollhattan

    April 29, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    @Derelict:
    Steve Doocy is holding for you on line…oh, wait, there’s no “Line Green” and other oops, he’s fallen, dropped the phone potato and can’t get up.

  39. 39.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    @Baud: Back story?

  40. 40.

    Peale

    April 29, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    @Corner Stone: death penalty for being out in your own neighborhood?

  41. 41.

    Baud

    April 29, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I suppose. The article said they wanted the officer’s shirt. I’m trying to envision the connection.

  42. 42.

    sharl

    April 29, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    Deray is back out there again; his twitter feed is on fire with updates and Vines (short videos).

  43. 43.

    Jay S

    April 29, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    @Baud:

    I’m trying to figure out the relevance of this story to a search warrant.

    Might be trying to provide an out for the judge not granting a warrant.

  44. 44.

    gwangung

    April 29, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    @lamh36: Ought tell the assholes to TRY HARDER.

    Kinda insulting that after all this time, the best they could do is come up with this limp,weak excuse.

  45. 45.

    Tree With Water

    April 29, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    Deadspin.com eviscerated both ESPN and its columnist Jason Whitlock a couple of days ago, drawing a compelling picture of the white, conservative shot callers at the network cultivating Whitlock because he’s a black conservative who essentially parrots their bankrupt worldviews. The same holds true with CNN and the whole rotten lot of their hires. Frankly, I don’t think that Blitzer is particularly stupid. He’s merely a typical hire, made by out-of-touch corporate careerists with political agendas.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    First as farce, then as tragedy?

    Prosecuting Counsel Constable, will you please tell the court in your own words what happened?

    Constable Oh yes! (refers to his notebook) I was proceeding in a northerly direction up Alitalia Street when I saw the deceased (points at Njorl) standing at an upstairs window, baring her bosom at the general public. She then took off her … wait a tick. Wrong story. (refers to his notebook) Ho yes! There were three nuns in a railway compartment and the ticket inspector says to one of them. (the superintendent shakes his head) No, anyway I clearly saw the deceased…

    Clerk Defendant.

    Constable Defendant! Sorry. Sorry, super. I clearly saw the defendant … doing whatever he’s accused of…Red-handed. When kicked… he said: ‘It’s a fair … cop, I done it all … Right… no doubt about… that’. Then, bound as he was to the chair, he assaulted myself and three other constables while bouncing around the cell. The end.

  47. 47.

    Hal

    April 29, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    How does anyone say that? I mean, feel like that, and all that hate and fear? Sure. But say it out loud amongst other humans?

    After Walter Scott was shot a friend of mine posted some meme I guess is going around that said; “Your’re being treated poorly by the police? Have you tried not breaking the law?”

    Poorly mind you. Not killed. Not shot in the back. Not crush larynx or severed spine. Just, meh, treated poorly. He thought it was pretty funny and his post received almost 3 dozen likes, so I’m sure he’s secure in his belief that this is all just black people behaving badly.

  48. 48.

    Jay S

    April 29, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I don’t think you need to postulate a professional liar for this kind of testimony. Hell, if I were in that van and I knew what happened to the other guy, I’d be saying what ever it takes to keep the same from happening to me.

  49. 49.

    Hal

    April 29, 2015 at 10:23 pm

    @raven:

    Freddie Gray, whose death after being injured in Baltimore police custody sparked rioting in the city, was “banging against the walls” of a police van and “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” a prisoner being transported with Gray has said, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

    Sigh. I’m sure people who have had nothing to say about this case will be on social media forwarding this story everywhere in no time. Reminds me of that old Wonkette post when Obama was first running that said something along the lines of the only time your aunt has ever sent out an email. I think it was one of the first crackpot birther stories in late 2008 as the election approached.

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2015 at 10:23 pm

    @Jay S: That is plausible as well. What isn’t plausible is the dude’s story.

  51. 51.

    lamh36

    April 29, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    Local reporter in Baltimore saying on Lawrence that she was aware of the report has been aware of report for some time. They didn’t use it because the timeline it gives doesn’t fit the evidential timeline.

    Fuq WashPo and fug the intended leaks.

  52. 52.

    Jay S

    April 29, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s consistent with some of the earlier police stories about him banging around in the van. Not very plausible in explaining his injuries as we understand them, but it’s their story.

  53. 53.

    CzarChasm

    April 29, 2015 at 10:29 pm

    Baltimore is a damn tragedy. Wolf is the uncomfortable parts of BBC’s Office Space.

    I’ve already posted this on other threads, but I’m a frickin’ masochist:

    A comic book geek tries to simplify what is happening in Baltimore.

    Thanks for your time.

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    April 29, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    @JamilSmith
    That the @BaltimorePolice would leak such bullshit shows they don’t have any respect for the pain and anger being expressed this week. Zero.

    Baltimore Police Will Not Publicly Release Findings of Freddie Gray Investigation

    “There is not a report that is going to be issued,” Kowalczyk said. “What we are going to do, which is unique, is turn over all of our findings, all of our investigative efforts, to the state’s attorney’s office.”

    Kowalczyk pledged accountability, but said they cannot release all of the information to the public because the “integrity” of the investigation will be lost if there will be charges brought forth. Therefore, Kowalczyk said, the police department is working to quickly give all appropriate documents to the state attorney’s office in order to ensure accountability.

    “We are being accountable to them so that we can be accountable to the public,” Kowalczyk added..

    “integrity” of the investigation…oh but someone’s leaking shit to WashPo…”integrity” my azz!

  55. 55.

    Cervantes

    April 29, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    @Steve Gravelle:

    Wait, this is Rolling Stone criticizing someone’s “journalism?” Irony is dead.

    Actually, Lund (or Rolling Stone) deserves some sort of Pulitzer just for using “begged question” correctly.

  56. 56.

    Anne Laurie

    April 29, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    @lamh36: If you read the whole WaPo article (it’s not mentioned in the Daily Mail link), it’s careful to say that “The document” was “written by a Baltimore police investigator” — and that their reporters have not actually been able to locate the prisoner who’s supposed to have been riding along. They’re not actually calling the police report a lie, but they make it clear so far it’s only an unsourced story presented by a department with, shall we say, a not unblemished record of truthfulness.

    For another angle, here’s an earlier WaPo story with details about Freddie Gray I’ve seen widely cited:

    … In 2008, a lead-paint lawsuit was filed on behalf of Gray and two of his sisters against the owners of the home in which they grew up. Court papers described his difficult upbringing: a disabled mother addicted to heroin who, in a deposition, said she couldn’t read; walls and windowsills containing enough lead to poison the children and leave them incapable of leading functional lives; a young man who was four grade levels behind in reading.

    Such lawsuits are so common in Gray’s neighborhood that the resulting settlement payments — which Gray lived off — are known as “lead checks.”…

    As you know & I know & everyone who’s raised kids in an urban area during the last 40 years knows, apart from a reduction in IQ performance, the main symptom of chronic low-level lead poisoning on growing brains is “reduced impulse control“.

    So there’s a narrative — not necessarily a defining or a true narrative — that Gray was a brain-damaged urban casualty, “incapable of leading [a] functional life“, who might’ve banged himself around in the police van, made one last bad choice in a sadly brief life of bad choices. I most sincerely doubt he’d have wanted or been capable of breaking his own neck this way, but I’m sure we’ll hear the ‘mitigating circumstance’ repeated that if he hadn’t panicked & banged around in the crate like a cat being taken to the vet, he wouldn’t have died.

  57. 57.

    Mike in NC

    April 29, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    Larry Wilmore showed where as bad as the CNN coverage was, FOX News was 100% more despicable, with Hannity and the rest of the racist scum ranting about Black Guerillas.

  58. 58.

    Cervantes

    April 29, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    @CzarChasm:

    I don’t want ANY Hulks in the world. Instead, I just want Bruce Banner (and the people that he is the metaphor for) to thrive and be happy, so Green Hulk doesn’t come back. I want Grey Hulk to just go away, as he is always just awful. And while Current Red Hulk is terrifying, I want him to work on reforming himself to a point where he can look at himself in the mirror and see that he wanted the same thing that Bruce Banner wanted all along.

    Words to live by, thanks!

  59. 59.

    Anne Laurie

    April 29, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    @Baud:

    The article said they wanted the officer’s shirt. I’m trying to envision the connection.

    The lawyers representing Gray think the officer in question will have “Gray’s DNA” (blood) on his shirt, and that would indicate a level of contact beyond the “we threw him inna cage, no idea what happened after that” defense. The lawyers representing the officer, and the BPD behind the officer, have no intention of releasing that shirt until the judge insists they do so. The longer the process takes, the more chances for the shirt/evidence to become “damaged” therefore inadmissible, or even “lost”.

  60. 60.

    lamh36

    April 29, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    @Anne Laurie: and yet the local reporter on Lawrence O’Donnell just who’s been investigating this story before the MSM news caught wind of it says she knew of the source material for the WashPo article, but instead of running with that leaked source, they compared it to video evidence and official statements from BPD and felt that the leaked source wasn’t consistent with the timeline and BPD evidential sources.

    Yet WashPo reporting uncorroborating information, is any lame person reading that gonna connect those dots…hell naw.

  61. 61.

    Cervantes

    April 29, 2015 at 10:56 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Pb

    I do wonder how credibly this element can be implicated in the many “rough ride” lawsuits settled by various police departments around the country.

  62. 62.

    scav

    April 29, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    @lamh36: So, the same police that won’t release information from a report to the public because it will have an impact on the integrity” of the investigation, this very PD will show up and here I quote the Guard Livebog “An hour ago, Baltimore police commissioner Anthony Batts brandished a rock that had been thrown at one of his officers at a press conference” because apparently that won’t have any impact on the integrity of their so-called management of a volatile situation.

    So, they’re playing the same fucking PR-first policing as Ferguson, and seem to be going for a slight variant by pulling the document dump on the attorney’s office instead of the grand jury. Paper shuffling behind the curtain of joined at the hip mutually back-scratching organizations. Oh, goody.

  63. 63.

    Mandalay

    April 29, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    @RaflW:

    I heard about 10 minutes of CNN in an O’Hare departure lounge yesterday and I was ready to throw heavy objects at the screen.

    Here’s a deranged CNN reporter alleging that veterans in Baltimore were “ready to do battle“:

    There’s a lack of emotional investment. And a lot of young people — and I’ve been talking about there so much. A lot of young people — and I love our nation’s veterans, but some are coming back from war, they don’t know the communities, and they’re ready to do battle.

    WTF? When she got called on it, she made things worse by following up with a non-apology tweet:

    Folks. Please don’t misunderstand me. Dear friends/family of mine are veterans. I was repeating a concern vocalized to me lately. That’s it.

    That’s it? She eventually did a grovelling apology on air, and looked shit scared doing it. I’m assuming that she is now hanging on to her job by the skin of her teeth.

  64. 64.

    lamh36

    April 29, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    Here is the local investigative reporter Lawrence O’Donnell was talking to .

    Her name is Jayne Miller and she works for WBAL-TV.

    Here is what she tweeted 6 days ago:

    @jemillerwbal
    BPD Comm Anthony Batts says 2nd prisoner in van with Freddie Gray reports no erratic driving by van driver and Gray mostly quiet

    https://twitter.com/jemillerwbal/status/591401433725014017

    And now WashPo leads with the headline about his “trying to injure himself”

    Lead ticker on CNN: WashPo: Gray Tried to Hurt Himself

    Like I said, the headline is what will lead most people and it was deliberate by WashPo

  65. 65.

    sukabi

    April 29, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    @lamh36: the first cell phone video that was released clearly showed Gray severly injured BEFORE he went into the van… screaming in pain, legs limp, flopping unnaturally, and he’d lost bladder control… the versions of the video I’ve seen since have been cropped, shown from the waist up…

  66. 66.

    fuckwit

    April 29, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    “Why are we looking at that?” Because it is fire, and we all are Beavis. “

    I love this line so much, I want to marry it.

  67. 67.

    Gian

    April 29, 2015 at 11:41 pm

    @raven:

    It makes me feel like the cable networks are rooting for violence in order to get ratings, the whole people getting hurt or killed is just collateral to the ratings.

    that and it can be decades before the buildings are rebuilt:

    Construction began Wednesday on a $200 million retail center being built on a vacant lot that has been mostly empty since the 1992 Los Angeles riots. Kareen Wynter reports from South Los Angeles for the KTLA 5 News at 1 on April 29, 2015.
    http://ktla.com/2015/04/29/construction-begins-on-new-retail-center-at-site-of-1992-l-a-riots/

  68. 68.

    Aleta

    April 29, 2015 at 11:44 pm

    @mdblanche:
    “What is fettuccine ?” Come on now.

  69. 69.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 29, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    The goal in Baltimore is the same as the goal in Ferguson: to so muddy the waters as to make any attempt at proving anything “beyond a reasonable doubt” impossible.

    Thus the guilty will be allowed to go free.

  70. 70.

    Kryptik

    April 29, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    @lamh36:

    The most depressing thing is that it’s likely going to work, and all most people will know in a few days is ‘Gray tried to kill himself to make police look bad’. Doesn’t matter if it’s bullshit when you look at it deeper, most people don’t want to look deeper. They want an excuse to dismiss the story as ‘just thugs being thugs’ and leave it at that.

    It’s going to work, because no one with media megaphones and levers of power will report otherwise. And as much as Twitter can be a boon, it’s also as much of a bane and for everyone sharing the truth, there will be 5 reporting the bullshit and repeating it as gospel truth.

  71. 71.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2015 at 11:59 pm

    @Kryptik: No, it is building. White people are starting to notice that black people are being killed at random. Racist and racist-curious people won’t care, but people who have liberal instincts but were brought out to trust the police and never had any person reason not to do so are seeing cell phone images that will disturb them.

  72. 72.

    Cacti

    April 30, 2015 at 12:00 am

    @lamh36:

    So Freddie Gray broke his own spine in 3 fuckin’ spaces, along with his voice box, with his hands cuffed and with a pronounced limp in the video that has already circulated.

    But for the surreptitious video of Walter Scott getting shot in the back while fleeing, the national media would peddling accounts of how he was charging backwards at Officer Slager.

  73. 73.

    fuckwit

    April 30, 2015 at 12:02 am

    Obama’s HackProm speech was so perfect in so many ways.

    He said the only people you see impersonating journalists on CNN are journalists on CNN. The crowd booed that one, but it is totally correct. Yay Obama.

    And he pointed out MSNBC a joke too.

    And at the end, he toasted the actual journalists who risk their lives to speak truth to power, and shamed all the bulllshit celebrities in that stupid fucking hackprom.. As he should have.

    A real journalist would have broken the story about Baltimore’s corruption years ago, and a real media would have kept the story alive and hyped the hell out of it.

    There’s a serious problem in this country with income inequality, police brutality, among other things.. And a press that cared about giving voice to the voiceless and fighting injustice would have more than enough work to keep it busy, if it were so inclined.

  74. 74.

    Cacti

    April 30, 2015 at 12:04 am

    @fuckwit:

    A real journalist would have broken the story about Baltimore’s corruption years ago, and a real media would have kept the story alive and hyped the hell out of it.

    The Baltimore Sun published an article last September about how the City had settled over 100 lawsuits against BPD since 2011 for brutality and civil rights complaints.

    Crickets from the national media.

    Worthless courtiers the lot of them.

  75. 75.

    Howard Beale IV

    April 30, 2015 at 12:18 am

    FYI; Jeremy Scahill from The Intercept is having a knock-down nasty-ass Twitter fight going on right now.

    I include myself in that. The best white people can do is recognize we’re recovering racists. We’re born into a system that tells us we rule

  76. 76.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 30, 2015 at 12:21 am

    @Howard Beale IV: The link you gave only provides Scahill’s tweets. It doesn’t show up as a fight at all.

  77. 77.

    Peale

    April 30, 2015 at 12:43 am

    Back to the original story, about how quickly Wolf Blizter gets to declare civil rights activists guilty of betrayal.

    Baltimore Sun Story from January when decided that the very same McKesson was carrying on his legacy.

    Also too, noting that there have been several protests that Wolf hasn’t been paying attention to that weren’t riots. In fact, pretty much all of them until Monday.

  78. 78.

    fuckwit

    April 30, 2015 at 2:57 am

    There are some journalists who love to speak truth to power. Sadly, there are not enough of them.

    The “journalists” on the TV seem more to love to speak power to truth.

  79. 79.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 30, 2015 at 3:47 am

    @fuckwit:

    And a press that cared about giving voice to the voiceless and fighting injustice would have more than enough work to keep it busy, if it were so inclined.

    They are not so inclined. They are comfortable…far more comfortable than the vast majority of Americans. They’re more concerned with what’s on the menu for Sally Quinn’s next party than they are for the plight of other citizens.

  80. 80.

    BlueDWarrior

    April 30, 2015 at 3:59 am

    You know, what CNN has done during this entire debacle, combined with the ‘strong takes’ being blasted all over Facebook and various other social media outlets, leads me to further belief that absolutely nothing that Blacks and other political and ethnic minorities do will be good enough for a lot of them.

    We can dance the dance of WASPism as best they can, but we[minorities] are fundamentally tainted. Perhaps we can get like Whitlock and be “the black guy we go to when we need someone to denounce black culture”, but never anything better.

    It is incredibly frustrating to deal with, especially online when you lose that subconscious communication that helps tamp some of this down IRL.

  81. 81.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 30, 2015 at 4:45 am

    @Cacti:

    Worthless courtiers the lot of them.

    From your perspective, from my perspective, they are despicable, worthless toadies.

    From the perspective of the .01% they’re valuable minions who do a good job of keeping most of the serfs under some control.

    Tonight I experienced this first hand on WoW trade chat, which is usually a sewer regardless, but has been particularly bad with people who cannot see past the TV coverage and its bias. As Jeb Lund points out, the only thing they can perceive is the property, commerce, property, commerce aspect of this event. They bemoan the damage to the buildings, to “innocent businesses”, and fail to comprehend that this shit doesn’t just happen…that the conditions that make opportunistic violence and rioting possible have been percolating for years in Baltimore.

    White people suck. That’s just all there is to it.

  82. 82.

    Zinsky

    April 30, 2015 at 5:17 am

    Collective punishment is a defining hallmark of all fascist regimes. You are black? You need to answer for the misdeeds of anyone and everyone with your skin color. This is how the fascist thinks. It’s ugly and it needs to be over.

  83. 83.

    patrick II

    April 30, 2015 at 5:18 am

    @Derelict:

    Brian Kilmeade is the easily the stupidest man on television. Wolf is slow, but Kilmeade is quickly and aggressively vacuous.

  84. 84.

    brantl

    April 30, 2015 at 7:36 am

    that fire and rage might be ugly manifestations of a greater truth, that rage might have a fuel from an outside source.

    The people that committed the looting in Baltimore, of their own area, are selfish, criminal pricks. The people who set fire to their neighbor’s house? Their criminal pricks. Nothing excuses the fire and the looting. Nothing, period, full stop. Don’t even go there, it’s just stupid. Does every kind of police mistreatment that went on in Baltimore need to be investigated? Youdamnbetcha, it does. But anybody trying to intimate that this is a perfectly understandable extension of protest deserves to be laughed off, forever. Was it predictable? Sure. Defensible or understandable? No, hell no.

  85. 85.

    Peale

    April 30, 2015 at 7:58 am

    @brantl: I will argue with you about “predictable”. I’m researching this. And as far as Baltimore is concerned, protests and demonstrations, even those that are about police brutality, have not predictably led to riots. In fact, the instances are 0. I’ve only covered 5 years back, but no. There is noting normal or predictable about Monday night,

  86. 86.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 30, 2015 at 8:41 am

    At this point we could basically replace all our prison cells with gas chambers and Auschwitz ovens and march every black man in America into them, and the story would be that they all stumbled into them in a series of unfortunate accidents while resisting arrest, and besides they were probably guilty of something.

  87. 87.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    April 30, 2015 at 8:42 am

    3. “We’re not making comparisons. Obviously, we don’t want anybody hurt. But I just want to hear you say that there should be peaceful protests, not violent protests in the tradition of Dr. Martin Luther King.”

    The correct reply to Blizer should be “so the fatal beatings will stop, once moral improves? Is this what you are suggesting Mr Blizer?” Ask them to explain how exactly one should reply to someone attacking one, outside Second Amendment solutions.

  88. 88.

    Cervantes

    April 30, 2015 at 8:44 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    besides they were probably guilty of something.

    Calling each other “nigger,” at the very least.

  89. 89.

    chopper

    April 30, 2015 at 8:52 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Hanna: How long have you lived in this constituency?

    Blackadder: Since Wednesday morning. I took over the previous electorate when he, very sadly, accidentally brutally cut his head off while combing his hair.

  90. 90.

    Jado

    April 30, 2015 at 9:19 am

    @Corner Stone:

    You said it yourself – fear. And the vocalization of fear is just a plea for confirmation. She wants to be sure she isn’t the only one so very scared that she thinks he got “what he deserved”.

    It’s a different version of looking up at you with puppy-dog eyes and saying “you’re scared just like me right? I’m not the only one, right?”

    The fact that she might be the only one so scared is even more terrifying, and as Master Yoda said, Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, and Hate leads Suffering. Fear is the path to the Dark Side.

    Approximately 27% of the country is currently flirting with the Dark Side. Cause they are SCARED.

    And if they would just admit that they are scared, we might have pity on them and help them. But I have no pity for someone who deals with fear by lashing out.

    http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

  91. 91.

    brantl

    April 30, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    @Peale: I’m talking about rioting being predictable as a possible outgrowth of scumbags seeing a large protest, and taking advantage of it, and that friction between an aggressive, hostile police force and a large protest, as well. And it is predictable. “Sure as God made little green apples”.

  92. 92.

    JimL

    April 30, 2015 at 12:16 pm

    How does a man with his head so far up his ass keep his hair so white? Only Wolf Blitzer knows!

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