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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Late Night Open Thread: Ripples in the Baltimore Stream

Late Night Open Thread: Ripples in the Baltimore Stream

by Anne Laurie|  April 29, 20153:52 am| 20 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Post-racial America, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

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Yep, pure self-indulgence, because you’ve all gone to bed anyways.

Young people link arms, form a line and push crowd back from officers. "We're not doing all that nonsense tonight" pic.twitter.com/Qet9rwDBKR

— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) April 29, 2015

The Guardian‘s liveblog is here. Washington Post‘s is here.

"Well, normally I cover millionaire congressmen calling for dismantling the safety net to preserve deficit neutrality, but I'm needed here."

— Big Sexy Jeb Lund (@Mobute) April 29, 2015

"I came through the train on Baltimore (sic) last night, I'm glad the train didn't stop," – Rand Paul, who wants to appeal to black youth

— jess mcintosh (@jess_mc) April 28, 2015

Dave Weigel, who lives in the area:

… Baltimore is not Ferguson. When the media swarmed that small city to cover the aftermath of a killing, they discovered mostly black neighborhoods run by white politicians, policed by mostly white cops. Baltimore, which is roughly 63 percent black, is governed by a black mayor—even if no one in the city has anything good to say about Stephanie Rawlings-Blake. The police commissioner is black. The police force is mostly black. The state came within a few points of electing a black governor in 2014. (The man who defeated him, Governor Larry Hogan, benefitted when turnout in the city of Baltimore fell by half from 2012.)…

Since 2008, the year the nation elected its first black president, the gap between haves and have-nots in Baltimore has increased by more than 5 percent, as measured by the Gini coefficient, a gauge of income inequality. That compares to 2.5 percent for the country at large, ranking Baltimore thirteenth in the nation in terms of income inequality….

See, they expected chaos tonight. And it's all media out here. The police are riding around in circles out here with nothing to do.

— deray mckesson (@deray) April 29, 2015

Fire beside Pratt library was not caused by Molotov cocktail. The teargas grenade landed on trash and its sparks set the fire. Watched it.

— Jon Swaine (@jonswaine) April 29, 2015

Jamelle Bouie, at Slate:

On Monday night, there were riots in Baltimore, but it’s hard to say Baltimore was rioting. This wasn’t 1968, when fires touched huge swaths of the city and thousands left their homes. Instead, in a few areas around the Inner Harbor and East and West Baltimore, scattered groups of looters smashed stores, set fires, and confronted police, with residents watching from stoops or out of windows…

As curfew passes, only violence where I'm at in Baltimore is people mad at Geraldo Rivera getting in a small shoving match with him

— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) April 29, 2015

Tragic. All the hard work this check cashing company did gouging, cheating, and screwing over the community, gone. pic.twitter.com/GovVwsTKxy

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) April 27, 2015

Also from the Washington Post, “What you really need to know about Baltimore, from a reporter who’s lived there for over 30 years“, and an interview with Kurt Schmoke, Baltimore’s first African-American mayor.

Imagine the right's howls if the National Guard jammed the cell signals of an armed criminal like, say, Cliven Bundy. pic.twitter.com/GYUbVdYzAc

— Big Sexy Jeb Lund (@Mobute) April 28, 2015

Group of young people, some self identifying as Bloods & Crips, moving crowds back from police line at curfew nears pic.twitter.com/TTM5rsPOk4

— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) April 29, 2015

“mlk was nonviolent!” *mlk gurgles on the balcony where he was shot*

— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) April 28, 2015

Governments that want civil order should avoid setting their own legitimacy on fire. http://t.co/TzG7FmLhbH

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) April 28, 2015

they must've recognized them pic.twitter.com/qmBUHwxoRO

— Big Sexy Jeb Lund (@Mobute) April 28, 2015

Met some cool people today who are more upset about a CVS getting looted than a man dying of a broken neck in a police van.

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) April 28, 2015

How the Freddie Gray protests in Baltimore played on newspaper front pages: pic.twitter.com/9N4mlc6ikN

— David Uberti (@DavidUberti) April 28, 2015

We now appear to have a powerful congruence of interest between media, who want a story, and cops, who want payback.

— Billmon (@billmon1) April 28, 2015

translation: "This particular kind of acute, televisable, non-state-sanctioned violence will not be tolerated." pic.twitter.com/bVChfh0q4I

— sara mayeux (@saramayeux) April 28, 2015

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20Comments

  1. 1.

    WaterGirl

    April 29, 2015 at 4:01 am

    Thanks, AL, for the new thread and the great tweets.

  2. 2.

    Mary G

    April 29, 2015 at 4:22 am

    I’m up. I’ve been trying to read the Baltimore Sun, but having trouble loading it. Thanks AL for the interesting Twitter people you find.

  3. 3.

    Kathleen

    April 29, 2015 at 4:48 am

    Great roundup. Thanks.

  4. 4.

    OmerosPeanut

    April 29, 2015 at 5:51 am

    Great roundup but flinching at Weigel’s interpretation of the Gini coefficient depending what he’s referencing by “5%”.

  5. 5.

    ThresherK

    April 29, 2015 at 6:47 am

    “I came through the train on Baltimore (sic) last night, I’m glad the train didn’t stop,” – Rand Paul, who really needs to speak at an HBCU again for anyone who thinks his appearance at Howard U wasn’t a total disaster.

  6. 6.

    Ryan

    April 29, 2015 at 7:35 am

    @ThresherK: Must’ve been talking behind closed doors. In hushed tones.

  7. 7.

    Jerry

    April 29, 2015 at 8:52 am

    Rand Paul says that he came through the train? Ew. Please set that train on fire and push it down that bottomless hole Siberia.

  8. 8.

    Joel

    April 29, 2015 at 9:44 am

    I’m loathe to endorse violence.

    But for a check cashing/payday loan spot…

    Relevant link.

  9. 9.

    Honus

    April 29, 2015 at 10:08 am

    Rand Paul using the evil socialist Amtrak instead of his private car?

  10. 10.

    Paul in KY

    April 29, 2015 at 10:23 am

    @Honus: He has a weak spot for trains and railways. No one knows why…

  11. 11.

    Mike in NC

    April 29, 2015 at 10:24 am

    The old joke about Pennsylvania was that it was Philadelphia in the east and Pittsburgh in the west, with Alabama in between. Maryland is Baltimore in the middle with Alabama to the north, south, east, and west (not counting the DC suburbs where I used to live).

    It was and remains a border state, as much a part of the South as the North. The naval academy was moved from Annapolis to Newport, RI during the Civil War because it was considered to be hostile territory.

  12. 12.

    boatboy_srq

    April 29, 2015 at 10:58 am

    @Honus: @Paul in KY: It’s every objectivist libertarian’s right to save wear and tear on their personal vehicles by using FascoSoshulist public transportation transit built and run with other people’s money trains and buses.

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    Bubblegum Tate

    April 29, 2015 at 10:58 am

    This is nutpicking, I admit, but it’s the first strain of Baltimore Trutherism I’ve seen:

    Has anyone else noticed something really strange about the riots in Ferguson, Staten Island and Baltimore. To the best of my knowledge, no one has died in the riots. You have people throwing Molotov Cocktails, stones and bricks, all brought in by mostly outside agitators, and not a single death. It’s like it’s all staged. Now I’m not advocating that they ramp up the deaths, but something’s fishy in Denmark.

  14. 14.

    Peale

    April 29, 2015 at 11:10 am

    @Bubblegum Tate: Actually, thousands are dead and no one is telling the truth. Riots have spread to all of our major cities which are burnt shells at the moment.

    I felt that weirdness over the reporting over Ferguson last summer. My FB feed got full of nuts writing as if the entire country was on fire, when the riots never really extended outside of a few blocks of one town.

    I think it would be fun to turn the fear on its head. No longer should we be afraid that our cities are in flames. Instead lets be afraid that our cities aren’t in flames. Every day that they aren’t burning is a sign of a dark manipulation. That’s real conspiracy and weapons grade paranoia. Truthers unite.

  15. 15.

    sparrow

    April 29, 2015 at 11:24 am

    @Bubblegum Tate: It’s shocking for the reason that somehow when tons of media is on them, the Baltimore police are capable of behaving professionally and not killing and injuring people. Suddenly the “accidents” stop.

  16. 16.

    slag

    April 29, 2015 at 11:24 am

    @Paul in KY:

    He has a weak spot for trains and railways. No one knows why…

    Haha!

  17. 17.

    Elie

    April 29, 2015 at 11:51 am

    This is a must read interview with David Simon (creator of “The Wire”). Wow — very well written but Simon’s thoughts are like a sledgehammer of truth — indicting many including O’Malley — Opened my eyes wider for sure…

  18. 18.

    JustRuss

    April 29, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    @Paul in KY: Oh, well played.

  19. 19.

    Paul in KY

    April 29, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    @JustRuss: Thanks to you & Slag for the shoutout! Am reading ‘Atlas Shrugged’ right now, so it just popped out.

  20. 20.

    CzarChasm

    April 29, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    Hello.

    I think I have a good metaphor to help explain the underlying forces involved with the current situation in Baltimore, using The Hulk:

    http://czarchasm.livejournal.com/102638.html

    What do you think? Does it need work?

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