From multitalented commentor Werebear:
My garden, this year.
I invested in this giant bucket of pansies as that is what my money and energy amounts to these days. But it will happily weather a frost should it come and can sit outside my window at work and come home with me on weekends.
Anyone can have a portable garden.
What’s on the agenda for the new day?
raven
MRI at 9. I hope they are digging the footings when I get back!
OzarkHillbilly
A portable garden, love it.
David Koch
if the repukes are allowed to nominate Canadian Rafael Eduardo Cruz, can we nominate Canadian Rachel Notley – she’s smart, a winner, an obot, and sexy.
tybee
the agenda is watching the red X off the coast and calculating how much wind and rain and when.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
and the season begins a bit early this year….
raven
The Hanging Tree is on TCM right now!
raven
@tybee: We’re going to Topsail on the 16th. I’m hoping my sliced pinky doesn’t hamper my fishing. Where you been?
ThresherK
I’ve heard of the bag o’ potting soil garden. Maybe, just maybe, I’ll give it a shot. They say spring is two weeks late this year in my area, so that makes me two weeks less lazyass about it.
tybee
@raven:
loitering in the shadows
PurpleGirl
@raven: Hope the MRI only shows something benign. Also hope the footings are being worked on when you get back.
@OzarkHillbilly: Agreed. It’s a great idea. I should get something like that for my terrace. (Really I need to clean it up and start using it again.)
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: On the wrist?
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: Yea, they picked up a lesion and want to rule out cancer.
ThresherK
@raven: Hoping for nothing for you, in the good way.
raven
@ThresherK: Yea, I pretty sure it’s a scam to get Blue Cross $$.
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: Hopefully yours is like all of mine have been: benign. I actually have a genetic condition that causes tumors to form (call me “Lumpy”) No big deal (all benign so far) but a real pain when one decides to get infected. Especially now that I am on blood thinners.
NotMax
Early TCM alert. All times Eastern.
Friday, 11:30 a.m. – Purple Noon. Stylish French thriller with a very young (and very shirtless) Alain Delon, lovingly photographed Italian scenery, and the sprightly music of Nino Rota. Later remade in Hollywood as The Talented Mr. Ripley (the title of the original novel).
On Monday, a trifecta present for NotMax’s birthday, back-to-back-to-back Margaret Rutherford Miss Marple treats.
6:45 a.m., Murder She Said
8:15 a.m., Murder at the Gallop
9:45 a.m., Murder Most Foul
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: Like the pups!
PurpleGirl
@OzarkHillbilly: For years I had nodules on one ligament in one finger. It never hurt but I could feel if I held the finger. The doctor told me that it would only be a problem if I found I couldn’t extend the finger out flat. Haven’t had one in years now luckily.
raven
@NotMax: I’m DVR’ing the Hanging Tree. I know it by heart but I love it anyway! I always loved Maria Schell as the Lost Lady!
NotMax
@raven
It’s on in the background right now. They’re showing a group of Cooper films (it’s his birthday). Unfortunately, that selection includes The Fountainhead later on.
raven
@PurpleGirl: Yea I hit a couple of studies online and the cancer occurrence is rare. On the other “hand” they do urge one to check it out.
raven
@NotMax:
raven
@NotMax: Ugh, I flipped over to set the dvd for the other films. That is an awful copy of The Hanging Tree.
ThresherK
@raven: That sweet, sweet BlueCross cash. I shoulda known it was another giveaway for the nearly-differently-tendoned.
@raven: I thought that TCM specialized in airing good copies of classic movies. I mean, I don’t buy DVDs, but I do look for Criterion when I’m freeloading off the public library.
WereBear
Thank you, Anne Laurie! I’m in love with my bucket of pansies.
I’m feeling well enough these days to venture into a new blog. Latest post:
The part where everything I was told was wrong
Which will be about my health struggles. Which has a lot of societal dysfunction backgroud :)
Baud
@raven:
So it’s a documentary about the GOP?
Sherparick
There is this, via Atrios, from Digby is such a revealing pieced on the corrupt nature that the U.S. economic and political system has evolved into in the early 21st Century. http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/05/proudly-ripping-off-poor-people-to-help.html
The bankruptcy of Corinthian College and its donor list and the fact that even the meager rules the Obama Education Department has imposed on for-profit colleges are under attack in Congress by creatures like Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan. Ryan, Walker, and Rubio then get “beat” sweetening pieces written up about them by the likes of Jonathan Martin in the N.Y. Times (the so-called liberal media – a preppie out of central casting). Really, these people are just awful sociopaths.
Baud
Newsmax is back on the mobile site!
NotMax
@raven
Looks fine on my set. Does have that ‘stocking over the lens’ fuzziness used in some Westerns to attempt a softened sepia-like quality.
Schlemazel
@raven:
hope you have a boring time with nothing of interest to report.
Sherparick
@tybee: The Atlantic is very warm right now of the Southeast US. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsst.shtml
Also, that loop of cold water along the Northeast that has retreated to Cape Cod has been the reason for the cold winter and cool spring in the Northeast and mid-Atlantic. Lots of cold fresh water pouring off the Greenland ice sheet.
NotMax
@raven
Ever see Movie Movie?
I tend to run hot and cold on George C. Scott, but he displays quite creditable comedic chops in that one.
ThresherK
@NotMax: Jeez, that is a great, somewhat underappreciated, work. Didn’t Stanley Donen direct it? I vaguely remember how the “Singin in the Rain” aesthetic applied, wherein “Movie Movie” benefitted from having people in on its creation who were there in the 30s.
I especially value it because it was made in the 70s (1977?) when Hollywood and studios were ceasing to exist and nobody knew what was the baby and what was the bathwater.
WereBear
It’s what I call the “normalization of sociopathy.” Look at the MBA programs; people are nothing more than numbers on a spreadsheet. The whole Republican party is now cheering for people dying.
And they keep trying to convince society it’s COMPASSIONATE.
raven
@ThresherK: Hard to tell. There were nothing but crappy copies of Jeremiah Johnson until it finally came out in BluRay.
raven
@NotMax: Seen em all. The Flim Flam Man is pretty good.
raven
@NotMax: Shit it ain’t even 16:9!
OzarkHillbilly
@WereBear: The sociopathy scores another victory. Colorado contraception program was a huge success – but the GOP is scrapping it
@raven: One of my all time favorites. Would buy it in a New York second.
Another Holocene Human
@Sherparick: Rubio and Ryan are both jokes, but Ryan seems safe in his seat for now. Patrick Murphy is running against Rubio in FL … donate early and often.
It’s a presidential election and turnout increases in the Democrats favor so Rubio faces an uphill battle … and he sucks. Crossing my fingers.
Another Holocene Human
@Sherparick: This shit is scary as fuck.
They warned us about it in Scholastic in the late 1980s, but did anybody listen? Apparently you* aren’t smarter than a 5th grader. Guess you won’t be winning that leather sectional sofa.
*=American electorate
Another Holocene Human
@WereBear: Remember when an MBA was a lifetime learning night school degree for middle aged professionals???
And now it’s an undergrad concentration for rich dweebs (who don’t like to study hard)?
This is why MBAs ruin companies, y’all.
WereBear
It’s a political tactic to say, “See, government doesn’t work.”
“Because we sabotaged it” doesn’t get said enough.
WereBear
@Another Holocene Human: The whole “every company can be run the same way thing” drives people mad. The ones who know better.
OzarkHillbilly
@Another Holocene Human: I thought I read that under FL law Rubio is barred from running for President and the Senate at the same time.
Germy Shoemangler
Here are some photos from the construction of the empire state building:
http://mashable.com/2015/03/07/empire-state-building-vertigo/?utm_cid=lf-toc
Featuring builders and window washers with NO fear of heights.
OzarkHillbilly
@WereBear: We had the pipe laid for fiber optic cable on a big loop thru Washington Co right in front of my house back in 2010 (?). I was discussing it with my conservative neighbors, mentioned how excited my wife was about it (work from home anyone?) and that it was coming about because of Obama’s project for rural internet thru the stimulus bill. They immediately said, “Well in that case it will never be finished. Just another waste of money.”
They were of course, right. The pipe is still empty. But they did not like it in the least when I said that if it wasn’t finished, it would be because our GOP Reps and Sens wouldn’t put up the money for it, so they should remember who it is that won’t let them have nice things.
I, of course, was right on the money.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
Didn’t New Jersey lose out on a once in a lifetime tunnel because Chtistie wanted to be president?
And don’t get me started on Medicaid expansion.
Germy Shoemangler
@OzarkHillbilly: There are times when I’m at dial-up speed here. I saw a TWC truck outside yesterday. No internet for about four hours. It’s finally up again, but at times it’s slow, sometimes it’s fast, sometimes it’s non-existent.
I wish my bill would reflect that. But no, every month I get my bill with no deductions for down time. I don’t have two hours to spend on the phone with them trying to upsell me to a complete tv package I don’t want.
Didn’t someone do a comparison of internet speeds and costs here versus Europe?
Germy Shoemangler
@Baud: How about what they’re doing to the poor post office?
MomSense
@raven:
Sending good thoughts for your hands and footings.
My cold is back with a vengeance. I thought I was pretty much over it so I started back on my exercise routine. Big mistake. I was asleep by about 7 last night and felt like I had been boxing all night when I woke up 12 hours later.
Work should be terrific today.
debbie
@Another Holocene Human:
The day a MBA walked into the publishing house where I worked was the first day of the publisher’s descent into mediocrity.
Baud
@Germy Shoemangler:
The list goes on and on…
PurpleGirl
@Germy Shoemangler: A good number of those construction workers were Native Americans from upstate NY. They were known for being able to work high up without problems.
Another Holocene Human
@Germy Shoemangler: Republicans.
PurpleGirl
@Baud: Yup and they had to pay back a big chunk of money to the Feds.
OzarkHillbilly
@Germy Shoemangler: I have Hughes Satellite and for the most part it is good (heavy snow and ice can mess it up). My wife’s work is tech security for a major corporation so the increased internet security would be a great boon for her as there are some things she just can not do from home, and while speeds are fine for me, sometimes they really drag down for her.
Germy Shoemangler
@PurpleGirl: I remember my father telling me that when I was a child. My father remembered the construction. It’s a beautiful building.
What impressed me about the photos was how open the early observation deck is. Nowadays I think it’s built to discourage jumpers. I guess they learned the hard way.
Sherparick
From Daily Kos is a reference to this great column by Randy Balko. If he does not watch out, Randy may end up a New Deal Democrat.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/05/06/this-isnt-1968-baltimore-isnt-watts-and-hillary-clinton-isnt-michael-dukakis/
Apparently, unlike the Times, WaPo does not mind one columnist calling out another by name.
PurpleGirl
@Germy Shoemangler: Comparisons have been done, I don’t any cites for them. But Internet speeds in Europe are faster and costs are lower. Internet providers gotta have their outsized profits, you know.
Germy Shoemangler
@PurpleGirl: Years ago internet was a fun, hobbyish thing.
Nowadays my son needs it for his education, my wife needs it for her work, I need it for my work. It isn’t a luxury anymore. Which is why I resent the monkeybusiness from the provider.
Another Holocene Human
@Baud: If Millennials start voting (hrm, wait 15 years?) we can get in the right people to pay for infrastructure replacement along the Northeast corridor. Some of that shit is well over 100 years old and even the stuff that isn’t doesn’t meet the needs of today (or yesterday). Since Amtrak was founded it’s stayed in business by funnelling NEC revenues to the long distance trains. They had to do that and it’s not ridiculous–regulation era Greyhound did similar things. (In the industry we call it “cross subsidization”.) But while the LD routes rely on the big RRs to do infrastructure improvement–neglected for years, now playing catchup because RR business is on a secular upswing–Amtrak and other public entities own the NEC infrastructure. Stuff came up for replacement but the NE states had financial problems, dropping relative population, aging population, waning influence in US Congress, and so on. While they could have financed upgrades (see Massachusetts, Big Dig) it wasn’t always politically feasible (see: Baltimore to TF Green).
So it’ll happen, just not right away, and the point where it was needed has already come. Enjoy the bus fumes, everybody.
Another Holocene Human
@PurpleGirl: I’ll tell you what happened: Gore and Clinton wanted to upgrade US internet for competitiveness, etc. So Newt Gingrich did up a bill that gave away millions of public money to Verizon (Bell Atlantic) and some others without checking up after them. Verizon pocketed the money and never laid the first foot of fiber optic cable.
MomSense
@WereBear:
Thanks for that post, Werebear. I’m on a similar journey with my health.
Jacks mom
I’m going to an acupuncturist for the first time today. I hurt my back a few weeks ago and have done all the conventional medicine (medical insurance approved) stuff but nothing has worked so I’m trying acupuncture. If it doesn’t work I don’t know what I’ll do. This freaking hurts.
Oh and I’m expecting the mister to get served for that divorce he wants today. Don’t know how that’s gonna go either.
rikyrah
oh Jeb…
these stories tickle me….
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Did Jeb Bush invest taxpayer money in porn?
The Hill
Tim Devaney
Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush is coming under scrutiny from social conservatives for investing taxpayer money in a company with ties to pornography.
The former Florida governor invested $1.3 million from the state’s pension fund into Movie Gallery, a film rental company that offers X-rated films in addition to comedies and action movies, according to a report in the International Business Times.
The report examined thousands of emails from during his tenure that show a strained relationship between Bush and the “religious right.”
One voter wrote Bush was supporting a company that was “enslaving men and women to its addiction.”
American Family Association founder Donald Wildmon, in particular, took offense to Bush’s ties to pornography. He wrote a mass email rallying social conservatives against Bush.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/did-jeb-bush-invest-taxpayer-money-in-porn/ar-BBjjltp?ocid=HPCDHP
rikyrah
@Jacks mom:
Good luck, Jacks mom on the personal stuff today.
Another Holocene Human
@PurpleGirl: Some neat quotes about that if you follow the link.
Really gross how the Mohawks were forced off their land in the 19th century by white RE speculators (many of them immigrants, to me that kind of twists the knife even more).
Also–irony?–so many places that the government went to so much trouble to steal the land from Native Americans the white people they planted there are suffering with poverty, unemployment, poor health, etc. Although Upstate NY was prosperous at one time. Appalachia was a disaster from day one, it seems.
Germy Shoemangler
@Another Holocene Human:
That seems to be their culture. For decades we had our verizon landline. We finally cut the cord. They sent me a final bill that was twice the normal size. LIke a fool I paid it (I didn’t want them messing with my credit rating). Next month they sent me a “negative number” bill, telling me I’d be reimbursed for the extra forty bucks I’d paid. That was two years ago. No check ever came.
For fun, I tried calling them. Horrible experience, snarky phone rep, and nothing was resolved.
May Ceiling Cat Above rain kitty litter on their heads.
MomSense
@Germy Shoemangler:
Here’s an article with links to the study by Akamai. We have improved to #17.
http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2015/01/08/state-of-the-internet-us-connection-speeds-rank-17th-in-world/
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
Grumpy today. Working on a clusterf#ck, over the phone, from the dentist’s office, because somebody decided to roll a new label process (complete with never before used stock provider AND a never before used size) without consulting IT. In my absence, they managed to break a primary AND a backup printer at the start of the production day. I had a brief, frank, and decidedly unambiguous conversation with the person who caused this.
Love it when my boss has my back.
Germy Shoemangler
@MomSense: Thank you for that link.
MomSense
@Jacks mom:
{{{{{Jacks mom}}}}} I’m so sorry you are going through such a tough time. I hope the acupuncture helps with the pain.
satby
@Sherparick: and two of those big student loans are held by me (PLUS) and my son for his attendance at Wyotech. The promise of a 99% employment rate for graduates was made. Since they chose their victims carefully, I assume the GED holding son of a single mother looked like a good bet.
I can’t find any information on how to challenge repayment based on that fraud, but I will. They’ve gotten thousands from me already, but I can’t pay anymore on my current earnings anyway, so I think it’s going back up.
PurpleGirl
@Another Holocene Human: When I first moved into the Woodside Co-Op, I called Verizon to ask about internet service and was told my area hadn’t been wired for it yet. And they didn’t know when it might be — it was done some ten years later. Time-Warner Cable on the other had upgraded their system for internet service. Who do you think I signed with cable and internet service?
WereBear
Can’t be said enough times. Because their heads seem to be made of cement. No matter how many times their “philosophy” fails, it’s never their fault.
Germy Shoemangler
@satby: I see there have been layoffs at Wyotech. About three dozen employees were let go because of low enrollment.
I feel bad for the students who have to suffer because of this.
http://www.kgwn.tv/home/headlines/Layoffs-at-WyoTech-302485341.html
OzarkHillbilly
@WereBear: I see a lot of my wife’s difficulties in that. Weight has always been an issue for her. Now reading the preceding and this rang especially true:
What kind of daughter are you to not do anything asked of you by your aging parents?
It is not that her parents ever asked much of her, it was that they weren’t able to because she was 6,000 miles away. She will always feel guilty that she, an only child, took their only grandchild to another continent for her own “selfish reasons”.
Back to the rest of it.
PurpleGirl
@Jacks mom: When I first had the herniated disk, I found that cold packs worked better than hot packs. Also, Laying down with my legs up on two (or more) pillows helped a lot. I learned how to sleep on my back with my legs up, it pulled the vertebra open and relaxed my spine.
ETA: Hope those ideas help although you didn’t say kind of back pain you had. Hope you feel better.
satby
@Jacks mom: good luck on all fronts today! Take care of you.
Germy Shoemangler
I know we’re taking a brief sanity break on this thread, but I just saw this:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/world-passes-critical-global-warming-milestone/
Tom
After I see my wife off to her day program, I have to get to the grocery store and back before the plumber gets here.
We’re getting our hot water heater replaced (It’s not broken, just old.) This is Phase II of Home Improvement-Palooza 2015. (Phase I was replacing the kitchen counters, III will be re-painting.)
Meanwhile, I’ve got to catch up on my grading for my online classes and I’m holding office hours (via Adobe Connect.)
If I have time, I’m going to attend a webinar on using Scrivener to blog a book.
I like to keep busy.
PurpleGirl
@Germy Shoemangler: but, but, but,… the world is only 6,000 years old. The Bible tells us so, or so that fundy minister who calculated the age of the earth in the 1800s claimed.
WereBear
I KNOW I’m not the only one! So come on board and strap in.
It’s going to be a bumpy night :) But there’s a hope of happy landing.
rikyrah
not that we didn’t already know this
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The Crisis in Black Homeownership
How the recession turned owners into renters and obliterated black American wealth.
By Jamelle Bouie
In 2005, three years before the Great Recession, the median black household had a net worth of $12,124. Yes, this was far behind the median white household—which had a net worth of $134,992—but it was a huge improvement from previous decades, in which housing discrimination made wealth accumulation difficult (if not impossible) for the large majority of African-American families.
By the official end of the recession in 2009, median household net worth for blacks had fallen to $5,677—a generation’s worth of hard work and progress wiped out. (The number for whites, by comparison, was $113,149.) Overall, from 2007 to 2010, wealth for blacks declined by an average of 31 percent, home equity by an average of 28 percent, and retirement savings by an average of 35 percent. By contrast, whites lost 11 percent in wealth, lost 24 percent in home equity, and gained 9 percent in retirement savings. According to a 2013 reportby researchers at Brandeis University, “half the collective wealth of African-American families was stripped away during the Great Recession.”
It was a startling retrenchment, creating the largest wealth, income, and employment gaps since the 1990s. And, if a new study from researchers at Cornell University and Rice University is any indication, these gaps are deep, persistent, and difficult to eradicate.
In the study, called “Emerging Forms of Racial Inequality in Homeownership Exit, 1968–2009,” sociologist Gregory Sharp and demographer Matthew Hall examine the relationship between race and risk in homeownership. Simply put, African-Americans are much more likely than whites to switch from owning homes to renting them.
“The 1968 passage of the Fair Housing Act outlawed housing market discrimination based on race,” explained Sharp in a press release. “African-American homeowners who purchased their homes in the late 1960s or 1970s were no more or less likely to become renters than were white owners. However, emerging racial disparities over the next three decades resulted in black owners who bought their homes in the 2000s being 50 percent more likely to lose their homeowner status than similar white owners.”
This wasn’t a matter of personal irresponsibility. Even after adjusting for socio-economic characteristics, debt loads, education, and life-cycle traits like divorce or job loss, blacks were more likely to lose their homes than whites.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/07/black_homeownership_how_the_recession_turned_owners_into_renters_and_obliterated.html
NotMax
@PurpleGirl
YMMV, of course, but this helped alleviate this codger’s back pain tremendously while sleeping.
Raven
@satbyMy sis lost her job in LA when the real estate bubble burst. California had a retraining program and she got hustled into that medical transcription bullshit. She never made a dime a wasted a chance at being trained for something useful.
Mike E
@Germy Shoemangler:
It delivers internets for those who don’t have tubes!
Jacks mom
@PurpleGirl: it started in my lower back and has kind of moved to the right hip. X-ray showed a little arthritis in that hip but according to the doc not enough to cause this degree of pain…….maybe I’m just a wose.
Thanks to you all for your kind words. I know we’ve all got our ups & downs. I’ll get thru this and all the other. Got good kids and grandkids and a damn fine sis & brother so on that front I am blessed.
Germy Shoemangler
@Mike E: With ice cream?
MomSense
@WereBear:
I’m dealing with different symptoms but have bumped into similar problems in that the recommendations made me worse–much worse. I’m trying to build the confidence to do my own thing when it comes to my diet. In addition to problems with wheat, soy turned out to be a huge problem for me.
PurpleGirl
@NotMax: TY for the link. It made me look for the pillow I used — a wedge shape.
http://www.amazon.com/InteVision-Wedge-Pillow-Quality-Removable/dp/B009HHLBKK
You put the very thin edge at your backside and drape your legs over the high point of the wedge. I still use it sometimes.
Mike E
@Germy Shoemangler: Different truck, but there’s one that brings even moar.
Germy Shoemangler
@Mike E: We used to have one of those trucks visit a place I used to work. Every week he’d show up and deliver food. I bought corn dogs a few times. The guy wanted me to sign up and fill out all kinds of forms. I told him I just wanted some corn dogs. I wasn’t looking for a lifetime membership.
But the corn dogs were great, as great as corn dogs can apparently be.
rikyrah
they’re still trying to find the ‘Whitey’ tape
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Wednesday, May 6, 2015
Michelle Obama is Accused of “Playing the Race Card.” Let’s Check it Out.
One of the conservative’s favorite tools for blaming racial polarization on the current occupants of the White House is to accuse them of “playing the race card.” It happens every time one of them mentions racism as a factor in our country.
Usually the signal to noise ratio around such remarks by the President is so loud, it is difficult to unpack it all with much clarity. But recently some right wing publications accused First Lady Michelle Obama of “playing the race card” in her remarks at the opening of the Whitney Museum. It was a fairly quiet event, so let’s take a look and see what we can learn about how this kind of thing happens.
Here’s the quote from the First Lady’s remarks that they zero in on:
That’s it. According to these folks, that’s “playing the race card.” It boggles the mind, doesn’t it? If anyone had any doubts that First Lady Michelle was speaking the truth, all you’d have to do is visit a local museum and count the number of young people (much less young people of color) who are there.
http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/05/michelle-obama-is-accused-of-playing.html
MomSense
@rikyrah:
The conservatives do boggle those of us with minds. Their f*cked up world is changing and they don’t like it one bit.
OzarkHillbilly
@rikyrah: I’m surprised they haven’t accused environmentalists of playing the race card. Then again, they probably have, I just don’t know it.
WereBear
@Jacks mom: Well, as we all know, stress makes any situation that much worse.
My mom is finding great relief with the system of exercises (some of them just lying on your back with your legs up in a particular way, known as the Static Back Press) that comprises the Egoscue Method.
I can’t say enough good things about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7Vs5Y6gDw
OzarkHillbilly
@WereBear: When I first got separated from my ex, there was of course a lot of stress. What amazed me was the amount of relief I felt that it was finally over.
WereBear
@OzarkHillbilly: Anytime we lay down the Impossible Task We Nonetheless Think We Are Supposed To Do, the relief is immense.
WereBear
@MomSense: Oh, I know, they were pushing soy as the answer to women’s issues, when it’s really terrible for everyone!
Can you say “market for industrial waste”? Because that’s what we were told to consume.
TaMara (BHF)
@WereBear: That was a good read. Thanks for sharing.
Mandalay
No doubt to the great distress of NSA supporters here:
Shit, meet fan.
OzarkHillbilly
@WereBear: Exactly.
Germy Shoemangler
@WereBear: All I know is, anytime I consume anything with soy in it I get splitting headaches.
Soy milk, soy in peanut butter… it triggers headaches. Took me a while to figure that out.
MomSense
@WereBear:
Soy messed up my thyroid–or rather my immune system which attacked my thyroid.
WereBear
@MomSense: That is so common! And yet you still run across “health” sites pushing soy!
I think its high protein content attracted the vegetarians. Judging from the faux cheese and meats I see in the local health food store, as I’m reaching past for my free range eggs, it’s still very popular. Because of its versatility I suppose, but I just wouldn’t call it food.
The Raven on the Hill
Consumerist:
Yup. I’m keeping my broad-network plan, so long as I can afford it.