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You are here: Home / Politics / An Unexamined Scandal / Open Thread: The Other Ten Months

Open Thread: The Other Ten Months

by Zandar|  May 8, 201512:19 pm| 106 Comments

This post is in: An Unexamined Scandal, Open Threads, Stuff About Black People Written By a Black Person

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TBogg makes this catch from Colorado:

The owner of a Colorado barbecue restaurant is beginning to feel the heat over plans for a “White Appreciation Day,” where only white customers will receive a 10 percent discount on their orders.

According to KUSA, Edgar Antillon and Miguel Jimenez, owners of Rubbin Buttz BBQ defended the promotion, with Antillon noting that there is already a Black History Month.

“We have a whole month for black history month,” Antillon said. “We have a whole month for Hispanic heritage month, so we thought the least we could do was offer one day to appreciate white Americans.”

The owners, both of whom are Hispanic and who recently purchased the restaurant, said the idea began as a joke, but now it has been scheduled for June 11.

All BBQ matters, just some BBQ matters a little bit more, just by complete coincidence over the course of history.

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    taylormattd

    May 8, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    The owners, both of whom are Hispanic

    Ok then.

  2. 2.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    May 8, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    “We have a whole month for black history month,” Antillon said. “We have a whole month for Hispanic heritage month, so we thought the least we could do was offer one day to appreciate white Americans.”

    Gosh, thanks guys! I felt so unappreciated because of my whiteness, but now I don’t.

  3. 3.

    dubo

    May 8, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    He ain’t the first
    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/new-jersey-deli-owners-online-fundraiser-tanks-after-failed-white-history-month-promotion/

    Isn’t it neat how the Randpauls are always telling us it’s not that they’re racist, it’s that we don’t NEED civil rights protections because the free market will put racists out of businesd

    And then when that actually happens, all those same total non-racists band together to try to keep the racists in business

  4. 4.

    Hal

    May 8, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    White folks have had a whole millennium or two.

  5. 5.

    Walker

    May 8, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    The real kicker here is that BBQ, like much of Southern cuisine, is one of the most extreme cases of cultural appropriation ever.

  6. 6.

    scav

    May 8, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    Interesting little detail I’m wondering about is do they offer this 10% off the price deal to the Blacks and Hispanics while they’re being “appeciated” or is that little perq reserved for the poooor neglected Whities?

  7. 7.

    Haydnseek

    May 8, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    Hmmmmm…..picture an extremely busy dinner service, with lots of customers whose race and ethnicity isn’t readily apparent. Let’s all just sit back and watch the fun as the waitstaff and management has to make snap decisions regarding who is or isn’t white.

  8. 8.

    msdc

    May 8, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    I can’t believe the owners of Rubbin Buttz BBQ would be so crass!

  9. 9.

    burnspbesq

    May 8, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    The race for the Republican nomination for Governor of Kentucky has really gotten down and dirty. The other night, one candidate referred to another as “the Christian Laettner of Kentucky politics.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/05/07/christian-laettner-just-became-an-issue-in-the-kentucky-governors-race/

    One of the nice things about being a vegetarian is that it will be easy for me to boycott these clowns when I am in Colorado next week.

  10. 10.

    Cacti

    May 8, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Does the one drop rule apply to this discount?

  11. 11.

    jheartney

    May 8, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    I take it this place isn’t affluent enough to afford legal advice.

  12. 12.

    scav

    May 8, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    What happens if a multiracial family tries to buy some of that tasty bbq — last person to touch the money at the till, is the discount / appreciation priced then, or does everyone have to buy individually?

  13. 13.

    Belafon

    May 8, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    I’m thinking only blonde hair, blue eyed people should get the discount.

  14. 14.

    catclub

    May 8, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    I don’t see this as very different from Ladies Night at a bar. Is it?

  15. 15.

    Cacti

    May 8, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    @Belafon:

    And what about ethnic whites like hispanics or any whose surname ends with a vowel?

  16. 16.

    Patrick

    May 8, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    “We have a whole month for black history month,” Antillon said. “so we thought the least we could do was offer one day to appreciate white Americans.”

    He really is clueless about history and what took place a few hundred years ago, isn’t he?

  17. 17.

    Big ole hound

    May 8, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Who gives a shit what some idiots think up over a beer and then use for free advertising. They probably called the TV station who jumped on it because anything with a race factor is big news.

  18. 18.

    Tone in DC

    May 8, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    What The Fuck?

    I am dead serious, here.

    Teh st00pid is getting stronger and stronger, like the gravity from some supermassive black hole. After reading that paragraph, my IQ dropped 20 points.

    These two guys have not been part of the reality based community for a while. After seeing this, I need a drink. And it’s not even past lunch time here.

  19. 19.

    Cacti

    May 8, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    @Patrick:

    “We have a whole month for black history month,” Antillon said. “so we thought the least we could do was offer one day to appreciate white Americans.”

    The day for that has been called 1492 – present.

  20. 20.

    Chris

    May 8, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    Does black history month include black people getting to pay less?

  21. 21.

    Betty Cracker

    May 8, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    These clowns are probably hoping to join the homophobe pizza morans in the wingnut crowdfunding millionaires circle. They’ll never make a go of it otherwise. Rubbin Buttz? Please. I get it — BBQ rub on a Boston butt cut of pork. But it puts one in mind of, well, let’s just not go there.

    Somewhat O/T but related to substandard BBQ establishment advertising strategies: There’s a BBQ joint not too far from me with a sign that brags that it serves ribs so tender that “you don’t even need teeth to eat them!” It might be good, but I don’t know because I’ve never been there — who wants to sit around watching toothless gomers gnawing on rib bones?

  22. 22.

    Zandar

    May 8, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    @burnspbesq: Laettner’s response

    Does that mean he’ll win? #teasing

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    May 8, 2015 at 12:53 pm

    @Betty Cracker

    “It’s gum lickin’ good!”

  24. 24.

    burnspbesq

    May 8, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    @Zandar:

    Christian’s an asshole, but he’s our asshole.

  25. 25.

    burnspbesq

    May 8, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    Good news: Kevin Drum is out of the hospital and continuing his rehab at home.

  26. 26.

    Amir Khalid

    May 8, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    @catclub:
    Plenty different, it seems, to go by the reactions here.

  27. 27.

    Punchy

    May 8, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    This is pure grift, yo. They’re looking for Indiana pizzeria scratch, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. I give it less than 8 hours before the FundMe account goes live.

  28. 28.

    James E Powell

    May 8, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    It started as a joke? “Hey, let’s do something racist” is a joke? What’s funny about this?

  29. 29.

    northierthanthou

    May 8, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Among other objections…

    Strange how white history month seems to mean discrimination. Do they give discounts only to African Americans in February? How are these dedicated months an excuse to treat people differently? The point is usually to think about issues connected with the population and it’s history, not to provide some exclusive benefit. But not in this case, which is damned telling.

  30. 30.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 8, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    @catclub: Vastly.

  31. 31.

    Chris

    May 8, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    @Tone in DC:

    Fully half the country is not part of the reality based community, and they’re getting worse all the time.

  32. 32.

    kindness

    May 8, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    Isn’t this the same as Dinesh d’Souza hating black people?

    No don’t slam me, I know he’s Indian but racists don’t see that as different.

  33. 33.

    Brachiator

    May 8, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    @catclub:

    I don’t see this as very different from Ladies Night at a bar. Is it?

    How about a White Ladies Night?

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    May 8, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    Every day is White Appreciation Day. Just ask any black.

  35. 35.

    redoubt

    May 8, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    @northierthanthou: I’ve been African American all my life, living mostly in two metro areas with a large number of African Americans, and I’ve never gotten a discount in February.

    Quite the opposite in fact; there’s what’s referred to as the “black tax”–an extra 15-20% everything, especially services, costs you.

  36. 36.

    boatboy_srq

    May 8, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    @CONGRATULATIONS!: Still do not understand how it is that these idjits don’t see that White Culture (or is that Kultur?) is visible and celebrated every flipping day.

  37. 37.

    Gindy51

    May 8, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    Sounds like they want some free publicity.

  38. 38.

    OzarkHillbilly

    May 8, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Blacks get one month to discuss Black contributions to society over the years. Whites get the other eleven and it still isn’t enuf.

  39. 39.

    Botsplainer

    May 8, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    I’ve been in a lollapalooza with Facebook conservatives over a 40+ year old song, Jethro Tull’s Hymn 43.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LF9NFKPlo

    I describe it as the national anthem of movement conservatives. The butthurt is intense – I’m apparently just like ISIS.

  40. 40.

    Tenar Darell

    May 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    It is so frustrating the very point of Black History Month, which was to bring to the fore the contributions of African Americans to our collective history (since this wasn’t being taught at all) is now used as a cudgel and a fundraising opportunity by the ignorant. African American History is American History FFS! /headdesk

  41. 41.

    Belafon

    May 8, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    @catclub: Do bars justify ladies night by saying that men get a month where they get recognized for doing manly stuff?

    It’s the justification that’s frustrating.

    Edit: Leave out the justification, and it’s racism. The justification is to excuse the racism.

  42. 42.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    May 8, 2015 at 1:30 pm

    @burnspbesq: At least you admit that he’s still an asshole.

  43. 43.

    JustRuss

    May 8, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    @boatboy_srq: Yeah, I have a brother-in-law who’s a little wingnutty and he mentioned how oppressed he was by the unfairness of black history having a whole month dedicated to it. I like to think he’s just fucking with me, but I suspect he was serious. I’ve learned just ignore it, this crap is pretty deeply ingrained, it’s like arguing with a two year old.

  44. 44.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    May 8, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    @Belafon: And isn’t it interesting that the racism that the racism is from a man of an ethnicity that’s GRAW?

  45. 45.

    Kyle

    May 8, 2015 at 1:35 pm

    @Big ole hound:

    Who gives a shit what some idiots think up over a beer and then use for free advertising. They probably called the TV station who jumped on it because anything with a race factor is big news.

    This.
    It’s the rabies right meme of saying contrived “outrageous” things because they feed off attention and get their jollies from pissing people off. Best to ignore it before they escalate to the next stage of flinging poo.

  46. 46.

    gene108

    May 8, 2015 at 1:36 pm

    @kindness:

    Isn’t this the same as Dinesh d’Souza hating black people?

    No don’t slam me, I know he’s Indian but racists don’t see that as different.

    Racism – in a global context – more than White People versus Black People, as it has been for much of U.S. history and more recently White People versus non-White People.

    There are white Latino’s, who do not like their duskier compadres.

    There are Asian Indians, who look down on people darker skinned than themselves.

    I’m sure there different forms of racism among and between Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc. (but I would not know, because I cannot tell them apart).

    Just because the dominant power structure in the U.S. may look at you askance does not mean you were not part of the dominant power structure somewhere else and are used to looking down on others.

  47. 47.

    Mike J

    May 8, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    @catclub:

    I don’t see this as very different from Ladies Night at a bar. Is it?

    Ladies night exists because choose which bar to go to based on how many women are there.

    Do you think more black people will go to this BBQ place because they’ve managed to attract more white people?

  48. 48.

    gene108

    May 8, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    GRAW

    What is GRAW?

    On the internet it comes up as Ghost Recon Advanced Fighter, but I do not think that is what you are referring to.

  49. 49.

    burnspbesq

    May 8, 2015 at 1:55 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    I don’t think I ever disputed that Laettner is an arrogant smart-ass. However, he has the resume to back it up.

  50. 50.

    different-church-lady

    May 8, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Oh, so blacks get 10% off at that joint the entire month of February? Cool!

  51. 51.

    Mayur

    May 8, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    @gene108: Generally Recognized As White.

  52. 52.

    Bobby Thomson

    May 8, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    @burnspbesq: that’s really stomping below the belt.

  53. 53.

    James E Powell

    May 8, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    @boatboy_srq:

    Fish, water, etc.

  54. 54.

    Marc

    May 8, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    This sounds like a very, very fast way to generate a mountain of trouble. Hey, let’s give white folks a discount – there’s no way that charging a black or brown person more money for the same thing can possibly go wrong! And somehow I doubt that they give minorities discounts during black history month.

    I’m sure that no one will think to get a few cameras rolling, have people make some orders, document the racial bias, leave, lawsuit.

  55. 55.

    MomSense

    May 8, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    That Laettner thing happened 23 years ago? And I thought Boston fans held a grudge.

  56. 56.

    Randy P

    May 8, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    @catclub: Actually, the concept of Ladies Night has had some issues.

    Many years ago (being a curmudgeon means I remember this like yesterday’s news), when I lived in Maryland, the popular Woodside Deli had a Ladies Night. A group of customers complained and the owner ended up changing it to “Wear a Dress Night” or something like that. You got a discount or wearing a dress, regardless of gender.

    Can’t find an article on the actual incident, but it’s mentioned in this obit.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A241-2004Dec14.html?nav=E8

    I’m appalled to see that it happened in the 80s, probably before most of the BJ readership was born.

  57. 57.

    gvg

    May 8, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    @catclub: It is different than Ladies night. The point for bars having ladies night is that if guys know there will be lots of ladies that night, more of them will make a point of coming in that night to meet the ladies. The bar owner profits. They are trying to attract MORE males, not exclude them. It works too, which is why you can’t sue based on it.

  58. 58.

    trollhattan

    May 8, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    And in the blind-pig-discovers-delicious-acorn category: Geraldo compares Pam Geller to Aryan Nation and KKK. On Fox, to boot; not to disappoint, the others disagreed with him.

    “That’s nothing like this organized campaign to incite, to insult (Muslims), and it is bad for the Jews,” Rivera countered. “It makes us look like we are all as hateful as Pamela Geller. She plays right into their propaganda. It is absolutely appalling, and every time I see her on television, I want to take a shower.”

    .

  59. 59.

    VincentN

    May 8, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    @catclub:

    To be fair, there have been people who have sued over the concept of Ladies Night as a form of sex discrimination. And one can make a reasonable argument for that. As for your statement as to how a White Appreciation Day is any different from that… well, Ladies Nights are done rightly or wrongly as a way to drum up more business overall with both men and women through alcohol sales and while this restaurant stunt will mainly drive up business by bigots.

  60. 60.

    Tree With Water

    May 8, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    That’s like a waiter pointedly “joking” about food poisoning as he shows you to a table. I’ve got a feeling they’re going to lose money on this restaurant gamble.

  61. 61.

    Randy P

    May 8, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    @Mike J: That wouldn’t be a selling point for me but you never know how some people think.

    Long ago on my first trip to California (Monterey) it struck me that this would be a good opportunity to experience real Mexican food. So I asked the lady at the desk to recommend a Mexican restaurant. She sadly said there was no good restaurant within 15-20 miles and directed me to a couple. In Carmel, I think.

    I got back to my room and saw a few of the maids taking a break (this was midday). I asked them the same question and got the response that they didn’t speak English. Repeating my question in Spanish, they immediately brightened up and started telling me about places. Oh yeah, there are many! There are three great restaurants right around here they said. There’s one right across the street! Good food, cheap prices, great family place.

    The maids were right of course. But I always wondered what the desk clerk considered a “good Mexican restaurant” and why she didn’t think to tell me about Jose’s across the street. Probably because it was popular with, you know, Mexicans.

    I had the same trouble some years later in San Diego trying to talk some of my colleagues into having lunch with me at the burrito shack I’d discovered in the neighborhood bordering the Naval Base. Some days I had three meals there. But I never got another gringo to accompany me.

  62. 62.

    Paul in KY

    May 8, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    @burnspbesq: Mr. Comer had to admit he recieived (and liked) a book by Sen. Lowell Weicker of Connecticut. For your Republican primary voter, that’s about like getting a book by V.I. Lenin or Eleanor Roosevelt!.

  63. 63.

    catclub

    May 8, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    @trollhattan:

    blind-pig-discovers-delicious-acorn

    Rotten Mangoes (h/t Sadly, No!)

  64. 64.

    Paul in KY

    May 8, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    @Botsplainer: Pretty apropos, I’d say.

  65. 65.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    @JustRuss: To make him feel better, tell him it’s the SHORTEST month.

  66. 66.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    @gene108: Doesn’t it boil down to how close your ancestors were to the equator?

    What is it with the equator? Folks who come from far away from it feel superior to folks who come from close to it.

  67. 67.

    Paul in KY

    May 8, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    @Randy P: You woulda got me!

  68. 68.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    @gvg: Heh heh… imagine that? Sorry dude… this is ladies night. You can’t come in.

  69. 69.

    boatboy_srq

    May 8, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    @gene108: The Asians get very granular. I once had two colleagues who were terminal unfriends because one decided to strike up a conversation (in Mandarin) with the other, and by doing so mortally offended the other one (who spoke Cantonese). As Fierstein would say, “way beyond ‘oops.'”

    @Randy P: Patronized by, run by, whatever. It’s amazing how that works. I keep trying to tell friends going to SFO to skip Chinatown: the best Asian food is in the Richmond and Sunset, and the prices are better (they’re catering to the locals and not soaking the tourists).

  70. 70.

    raven

    May 8, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    @boatboy_srq: My buddy and his Chinese-American wife took os to the Koi Palace in Daly City, awesome!

  71. 71.

    Citizen Alan

    May 8, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    @gene108:

    There are white Latino’s, who do not like their duskier compadres.

    I’ve always been struck by the extent to which Mexican telenovelas are dominated by what appear to be white people with good tans. A lot of them look like Germans who speak excellent Spanish. Invariably, the ones who appear “Mexican” as racist whites would identify them (i.e. the ones whose ancestry includes some black and indigenous heritage as well as Spanish) are either the villains or the servants,

  72. 72.

    raven

    May 8, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    @Citizen Alan: The Ricans and Mexicans in the Army hated each other. . . and the Cubans!

  73. 73.

    Zinsky

    May 8, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    Maybe they can show Birth of a Nation or some home movies of lynchings.

  74. 74.

    Doug r

    May 8, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    @Chris: no it’s more like 29% you know the same amount that approved of President Voldemort.

  75. 75.

    germy shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    I’ve always maintained that what the human race needs is an invasion by giant extra-terrestrial insects. Then all people of the earth could put aside our petty differences as we fight them with flame throwers.

  76. 76.

    Gravenstone

    May 8, 2015 at 3:54 pm

    @Randy P:

    I’m appalled to see that it happened in the 80s, probably before most of the BJ readership was born.

    I know you’re not new here, but you do realize that a very large contingent of this joint is in the 50-75 cadre?

  77. 77.

    catclub

    May 8, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    @germy shoemangler: Read about the Fermi paradox. You will really not want that invasion.

    (Any race that can travel across space will treat us as vermin/food/speedbump. or worst of all – competition.)

  78. 78.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    May 8, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    @Betty Cracker: That should be an interesting case study – is the urge to celebrate oppressed whiteness stronger than the urge to hate on Hispanic immigrants? It’s kind of a catch-22 for the racist elements of the right wing.

  79. 79.

    Randy P

    May 8, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    @Gravenstone:

    you do realize that a very large contingent of this joint is in the 50-75 cadre?

    I’m aware of that and debated replacing the word “most” with “many”. But on reflection I decided to gamble that “most” might still be true, and went with it for dramatic effect.

    Do we actually have any idea of the demographic breakdown?

  80. 80.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    @catclub: Well, it would at least unite the human race for a few brief days before our total annihilation.

    Perhaps the insects could be sickened by the sight of Ted Cruz. Or shrivel at the sound of Carly Fiorina

    Work with me here, I’m trying to come up with some happy ending scenarios.

  81. 81.

    Waysel

    May 8, 2015 at 4:07 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/eantillon
    http://edgarantillon.com Romney campaign hispanic outreach leader. Gun fetishist. Log cabin republican fan. Ran for office as republican. Yeah, could be a grift. Sho enuff getting lots of PR for the new restaurant.

  82. 82.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    Like this:

  83. 83.

    Citizen Alan

    May 8, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    What is it with the equator? Folks who come from far away from it feel superior to folks who come from close to it.

    I don’t remember if it was in the Cornerstone Speech or the Mississippi Articles of Secession, but there was a specific reference in one of them basically claiming that peoples indigenous to equatorial regions were uniquely suited for picking cotton in the American South and therefore were clearly intended by God for that purpose.

  84. 84.

    Citizen Alan

    May 8, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    @germy shoemangler:

    I’ve always maintained that what the human race needs is an invasion by giant extra-terrestrial insects.

    I was just commenting last night that I refused to see The Watchmen when I found out that Zach Snyder left out the Giant Alien Squid. To me, the whole point of the story was the idea that we won’t ever be able to let go of our bigotries against each other until we have a common (alien) enemy.

  85. 85.

    Gravenstone

    May 8, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    @Citizen Alan: You should see it. Extremely faithful to the graphic novels, aside from the squid. Snyder substituted another “external” threat intended to force the nations to work together. I thought it all worked quite well together.

    And Jackie Earle Haley was great as Rorschach.

  86. 86.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    @Citizen Alan: Yes, I saw that on a civil war documentary a few days ago. They basically said the negro had no problem with the harsh tropical climate and so it was not cruel to have them work in it.

    Insane.

  87. 87.

    Gravenstone

    May 8, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    Oh Australia, whatever will we do with you? Aussie PM’s adviser claims global warming is a hoax intended to allow the UN to implement the New World Order.

    Sounds just like your common American conspiracy theorist.

  88. 88.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    @Gravenstone: And now Snyder is getting BATMAN V SUPERMAN ready for release next year.

  89. 89.

    Mike in NC

    May 8, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    Reading idiotic stories like this prompted me to send off for Martin Mull’s “History of White People in America”. Hope to start it soon.

  90. 90.

    Gravenstone

    May 8, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: Saw the trailer, looks like they’re trying to play off the big confrontation in Miller’s “Dark Knight Rises”. (Which he’s now apparently working on a third volume of now. Can’t imagine the train wreck this one will be after the second one a few years back). I’m not hopeful. And what the fuck is with the “Batman” growl? Seriously, just get Kevin Conroy to do the voiceover and be done with it.

  91. 91.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    @Mike in NC: I remember Martin Mull playing the blues on a ukulele. He dedicated a song to his grandfather who had “done quite well” in real estate. He said his name was “Blind Lemon Pledge.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVGpYSXi97A

  92. 92.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    @Gravenstone: The guy who wrote “Argo” was brought in by Batman to re-write the script. It might be good.

    I try not to expect too much.

  93. 93.

    Jerry

    May 8, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    Couldn’t they have at least waited until Juneteenth for this promotion? I mean, if you’re gonna be an asshole about things, go all out and *be* an asshole. Buncha cowards.

  94. 94.

    The Gray Adder

    May 8, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    Something like this could be seriously tongue-in-cheek fun. I think Martin Mull once did a bit like that, but it would still be taken in the wrong way. Pity.

  95. 95.

    burnspbesq

    May 8, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    @Bobby Thomson:

    My kitteh is named Laettner. I’ve been trying for years, without success, to find an Aminu Timberlake doll for her to ritually destroy.

  96. 96.

    Brachiator

    May 8, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    @Citizen Alan:

    To me, the whole point of the story was the idea that we won’t ever be able to let go of our bigotries against each other until we have a common (alien) enemy.

    But this is a kinda dumb idea, and not original. It’s been played out in a lot of SF in the last, what 50 years or so.

    And when you think about it, it’s not really solving a problem, but just pushing it off on ETs, who begin the new enemy that can be misunderstood and hated.

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    And now Snyder is getting BATMAN V SUPERMAN ready for release next year.

    Heaven help us all. I didn’t hate “Man of Steel,” but I was decidedly underwhelmed. This movie should be almost a no-brainer hit (Batman, Superman, maybe Wonder Woman in a movie together), but so of the stuff that has been leaked and hinted at so far is bland. On the other hand, “Avengers: Age of Ultron” is not as good as it might have been, and this may reset expectations and give Snyder some room to knock it out of the ballpark.

  97. 97.

    Mayken

    May 8, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    @Tenar Darell: Yes, this! So much this!

  98. 98.

    SWMBO

    May 8, 2015 at 5:07 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: Feed the Republicans to them. It will inflame their natural paranoia that they are being exploited, being persecuted as Christians and their need to follow in lockstep with each other. WIN for everyone else!

  99. 99.

    Germy Shoemangler

    May 8, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    @SWMBO: Best idea yet.

  100. 100.

    Steeplejack

    May 8, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    I saw Mull do that in concert back in the ’70s, before he got (semi-)big on Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman. He used a baby bottle to do a bit of slide uke. Awesome.

  101. 101.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    May 8, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    I’m sure there different forms of racism among and between Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc. (but I would not know, because I cannot tell them apart).

    @gene108: Like you would not believe. I’m not Asian but worked with almost all of the Asian nationalities for a couple of decades (and the term “Asian” as a catch-all pisses them off, because they really think you’re lying about not being able to tell them apart) and yeah, there is a pecking order, some psychotic racism that you would not believe, and just all kinds of fun stuff. The only thing any of them agree on is that Japan, due to some actions committed by that nation a few decades ago, are a bunch of assholes.

    ETA: Except, of course, for the Japanese, who think they are the master race. And I’m not joking about that.

  102. 102.

    Brachiator

    May 8, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    @CONGRATULATIONS!:

    (and the term “Asian” as a catch-all pisses them off, because they really think you’re lying about not being able to tell them apart)

    Not lying, honky round eye. Just stupid.

    The only thing any of them agree on is that Japan, due to some actions committed by that nation a few decades ago…

    Would this be WW II, or a particularly sloppy tea ceremony?

  103. 103.

    Felonius Monk

    May 8, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    The owners, both of whom are Hispanic

    Does that make these guys “Uncle Tomas’s”?

  104. 104.

    Ruckus

    May 8, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    @boatboy_srq:
    Brought a new house once, had next door neighbors from India. Very nice folks. A family from Pakistan wanted to purchase the house next to them but when they found out where the first family was from they refused to purchase the house and bought one a couple doors down. They could live in the same neighborhood just not that close. Bigotry is world wide. Preconceived notions about groups of people is a learned experience, just learned at an early age. We won’t get over this to any great extent for a long time. And we won’t stop fighting wars over it any time soon either. Look how much people around here debase the south, like our racism comes from there.

  105. 105.

    JustRuss

    May 8, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    @germy shoemangler: You had me at “flamethrowers”.

  106. 106.

    Will Reks

    May 9, 2015 at 10:40 am

    @Randy P: Yep, I went through something similar a couple of years ago. I found the best Mexican food in nearby Seaside and Marina. Also some great Vietnamese food. I stayed away from Carmel for the most part.

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