Here’s a photo of the Disneyland employee cafeteria circa 1961:
I’m going to go get some exercise outdoors before that unimaginably huge mass of hot plasma in the sky renders non-air-conditioned activities uncomfortable. Y’all play nice now, hear?
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OzarkHillbilly
Where’s the fun in that?
PurpleGirl
Hope your run goes well, Betty.
In NYC right now it’s foggy and yucky. I hope it clears up and is like the last week. (Weather was really nice those days.)
Baud
It’s a small world after all.
Juju
I wonder how long it took the man in the space suit costume to remove the fish bowl part? Eating would have been difficult if he left that part of the costume in place.
I’m in a baking mood. I was thinking about making some almond biscotti today.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
10 days left to get onboard Becoming Phoebe. I’m still trying to raise enough to do a print edition.
Mustang Bobby
No matter how yucky and humid it gets in here in Miami in the summer, the mornings are always nice and fresh. Then about 9 a.m. the curtain falls.
Liquid
It’s like watching JOI on mute!
Who says Archer doesn’t have educational value?
Germy Shoemangler
Phylllis
@Mustang Bobby: It’s warmed up considerably here in the
filled-in swampSC Lowcountry the past week, but yeah, the mornings still retain a refreshing crispness. The humidity has yet to kick in, so we haven’t yet reached ‘f*ckin miserable’ stage. I fear it’s coming next week though.MattF
Goofy has a sort-of wistful look.
Liquid
This is nothing. Try going to sleep/waking up in Yuma, back in September, when the ~25 yr old A/C died. One hundred and fifteen degrees by three in the afternoon.
OzarkHillbilly
@Germy Shoemangler: Let me be the first to predict he will plead guilty….. To much reduced misdemeanor charges.
Germy Shoemangler
For a real cool behind the scenes look at the Disney studios (circa 1940) watch the Reluctant Dragon.
Some real animators and artists have bit parts in the film. Also, a young, pre-fame Alan Ladd has a small part.
It begins in B&W, and then (like the Wizard of Oz) becomes glorious full color, when we reach the paint-mixing department.
PurpleGirl
@MattF: I wonder if he had to take off the head/mask in order to eat.
OzarkHillbilly
Jade Helm sick of the conspiracy theories, but agrees it’s ‘a kick-ass name’
“My friends seem to delight in posting links to my page: ‘Did you know … Have you seen …What have you gotten yourself into now?’ ” Helm said. “I usually respond that ‘Wine was just my cover. Please don’t blow it.’ ”
One friend asked her what wines went best with multistate military drills, and Helm said she recommended Kung Fu Girl Rising or Boom Boom Syrah.
“Maybe they chose Jade Helm because it is a kick-ass name,” she said. “They could have asked, though.”
Germy Shoemangler
@OzarkHillbilly: Just heard more of the story on Vermont Public Radio… they’re talking about a possible life sentence.
He was pimping out women, transporting them to other farms.
And of course he wants welfare recipients drug tested.
OzarkHillbilly
@Germy Shoemangler: A life sentence for a rich well respected white man who didn’t kill anybody? Color me skeptical.
satby
@Germy Shoemangler: How much you want to bet he’ll claim alcohol or drugs made him do it and he needs rehab? Projection 24/7 with Republicans.
ThresherK
If you’re wondering, haven’t we seen this before?
debbie
@Germy Shoemangler:
A mere coincidence he’s a Republican?
satby
It’s cooler and rainy today and tomorrow here, so the tons of yard work I need to do is out. Yesterday I managed to uncover enough of my kitchen table/desk to set up my white box and finally take pictures to post some new soaps. That should kill several hours. Writing the descriptions is harder than making the soap itself.
satby
Almost forgot: good luck on the 5k Betty!
MomSense
The heat some of y’all are complaining about sounds pretty good to me.
I stepped out to walk the dog and came right back for a jacket to go over my fleece and I grabbed a hat and fingerless mitts.
I’m freezing but at least the pollen is in full swing.
Sigh
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Congratulations on making your initial goal. Should you update the Kickstarter page to mention the stretch goal?
Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
Hawes
If I was the woman in the front of the line, I would stay away from the apples.
Botsplainer
Wife was in the jeep yesterday and stopped for barbecue. She opened the door and it got stuck; a spring fell out and the door got so out of alignment that her efforts impinged the fuck out of the area were the door meets the quarter panel, and she still couldn’t close it. Had to pick her up and have it towed for repair and body work. I assume that some aspect rusted.
So I got that going for me, which is nice.
Germy Shoemangler
@satby: Well then they should have “drug tested” him, the way he wanted to test the welfare recipients.
@OzarkHillbilly: I don’t know what will happen. How does Vermont usually handle such things? I doubt he’ll get a life sentence, no matter what VPR says.
@ThresherK: In “A Hard Day’s Night” Ringo is in a cafeteria full of costumed actors, and one of the “war wounded” applies more ketchup to himself.
Chris
Or, as one of my friends from colder climes calls it, the Cancer Star.
OzarkHillbilly
@Germy Shoemangler: Prosecutors always seek the maximum to pressure defendants into plea bargains. Usually this works.
Cervantes
@Germy Shoemangler:
Not sure if they are pursuing the trafficking charges.
Pretty sure they have him on assault. Among other things he was forcing women to have sex with him (and others) in exchange for rent payments. A prince among men.
OzarkHillbilly
@Botsplainer: Duct tape, don’t leave home without it.
MattF
Speaking of weird objects that you don’t expect to see walking around, there’s this.
ETA: via jwz.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: I’m not allowed to edit the actual goal that shows up in big type. I do mention the new stretch goal down in the body. I’ve edited it to move that announcement towards the top, though, so thank you for the comment.
Botsplainer
@OzarkHillbilly:
Even duct tape wouldn’t work on this – the door is stuck open on a 45 degree angle. Best part – we heard rain starting at 5 am. I wound up driving to the dealer with plastic and duct tape to keep the interior dry since USAA Roadside Assist dragged ass for several hours on the tow, and it got there after closing time.
Just One More Canuck
@MattF: it’s like “Separated at Birth” from Spy Magazine
greennotGreen
Beautiful morning here in the mid south, and I have tons of things I could be doing EXCEPT I’m recovering from chemo I had on Tuesday. Next to the last round, though! And the plumbers are working at the new house so concrete can be poured in the basement, so that’s good. Hope I can get moved in August.
Schlemazel
@MattF:
THAT’S FABULOUS!!
I wonder how long before he threatens to sue?
Schlemazel
Got a 28 mile bike trip planned and the weather is cooperating nicely. Bright sunshine & temps currently in the 60’s, will hit the 70’s easily by the time we are done.
We are starting slow this year because we both had rough winters. Mrs was attacked by one of her charges at school & wracked her back up so she was not keeping in shape and I was having the weird problems that turned out to be a UTI, once on meds I feel human again. But the result is for 2 months we have not really been maintaining regular exercise so this is a spring training run.
Schlemazel
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym:
Wish I had a couple extra bucks as I would really like a hard copy. I am old & never have been comfortable e-reading even though I do it now that the county library has a good selection online.
Currently reading a book of Neil Gaiman shorts. My first encounter with him & I wonder if you would enjoy his work. Its . . . different. Some I like some are just odd. I am thinking about borrowing one of his novels just to see what he is like in long form.
Mike J
Club’s getting two new boats, going for training in a bit. Then a four hour stint watching other people sail and standing by with the rescue boat. Wind is only predicted 5-6, so even the n00bs shouldn’t get in too much trouble.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
True fact: back in the old days, the Disney studio employee commissary served beer at lunch. Sadly, those days are long past.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Schlemazel:
I actually like Gaiman’s novels better than his short stories, though I hated “Neverwhere” for some reason. I would give “American Gods” a try.
Southern Beale
We’ve got us a real genius of a 2nd Amendment Hero today. Dad leaves kids ages 3 and 6 alone in the car with a loaded handgun. Guess what happened next?
Germy Shoemangler
@Southern Beale: The ultimate goal of the gun right is to normalize guns. To make them absolutely ordinary. Keeping a loaded gun in your car, wearing a gun to the shopping mall… the goal is to make this an ordinary part of life.
They watched too many westerns when they were kids. The Rifleman, Bonanza, Gunsmoke.
I have a crackpot theory. I call it the “distant dad” theory. Their fondest memories of their fathers is when they were all gathered around the teevee watching these westerns. Or when they were hunting together.
The rest of the time, the old man was drunk and uncommunicative, or away on business.
Germy Shoemangler
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): The Disneyland Memorial Orgy by Wally Wood.
MomSense
@Southern Beale:
“just for a minute or two” is more than enough time for little kids to get into something. I have never found out exactly how you can be a responsible gun owner, especially with kids, and have a loaded gun ready for self defense.
Also, too but these gun fetishists must be complete wusses. I am a skinny woman and I have traveled all over the world and never needed a gun. If you can’t get through an ordinary day of running errands in the US without a gun to feel safe, then you have a problem.
Walker
I am having the annual BBQ for my TAs. Just got the pulled pork off the smoker (from having it run overnight), and about to get started on the hush puppies.
One of my TAs has a sugar allergy, and I am having to treat that separately. It is amazing how much stuff has sugar in it if you start paying attention.
Germy Shoemangler
@MomSense: There’s an element of racism in their need. They believe all minorities are potential violent thugs.
Again, it’s like the old westerns… peaceful settlers being surrounded by homicidal Apaches.
ThresherK
@Germy Shoemangler: How can I have missed that?
As someone whose lineage goes back to Alsace-Lorraine (when it was German), County Cork and County Waterford, I have had the strangest non-relationship with cooking and eating the humble potato. Maybe I never got them cooked right as a child.
So, after everything else I’ve done in my kitchen, I’m actually seriously trying to mash potatoes for dinner tonight.
If it fails I have my main course, a sirloin roast, for which my wife would stab the Pope’s hand were the pontiff going for the last slice. Nice backup plan.
Cervantes
@Germy Shoemangler:
They’re working towards it, certainly, and may have achieved it in some places.
Would you say those characters were more, or less, cognizant of gun safety than our present-day heroes?
MomSense
@Germy Shoemangler:
I definitely think racism is a component. I also think it goes deeper than that. As people feel their place in society, way of life, etc is slipping, guns become the means by which a person can feel powerful.
Botsplainer
@Germy Shoemangler:
I’ve been wondering if there’s a causal connection between the panty-wetting hysterics of the 55+ white male gun buyer demographic and the showing of all of those rancid 40s, 50s and 60s westerns they tend to show on AMC lately. Those things were mostly lousy and shelved for decades, now there’s no escape.
Next thing you know, there’ll be a revival of “The Green Berets” as being other than a masterslop.
Germy Shoemangler
@Cervantes: I honestly don’t know if they were more cognizant of safety back then. It’s difficult to separate fact from legend.
Do you mean the characters in the old westerns? The bad guys were always the careless ones. The good guys, like Chuck Connors Rifleman, were portrayed as more respectful.
MomSense
@ThresherK:
Throw some garlic cloves in salted water with the potatoes and then use a ricer or fine potato masher with plenty of fat (butter) and they will be delicious. If you are using milk, just pour it in very slowly and incorporate as you go. Most important “rule” of cooking is that you can always add more but you can’t take away. Mixers give potatoes the consistency of glue but a ricer will give you creamy potatoes with no lumps. I personally like to mash potatoes with the skins on for a courser texture but my kids love the creamy mashed potatoes.
Botsplainer
@Cervantes:
I’d say that by 1890, the dangers of ubiquitous firearm possession and display had become such an obvious issue in denser population areas that they gave rise to efforts for control and legal reform.
Of course, when innocent victims of negligent firearm handling are presumed to have a quick ticket to the arms of Sweet Baby Jesus to be succored in the afterlife, the situation loses its direness.
Germy Shoemangler
@Botsplainer: I don’t even have cable tv, but broadcast channels like ME-TV and GRIT show a ton of westerns and action gun stuff.
Did the wild west have more gun control than we do today?
Guns were obviously widespread on the frontier. Out in the untamed wilderness, you needed a gun to be safe from bandits, natives, and wildlife. In the cities and towns of the West, however, the law often prohibited people from toting their guns around. A visitor arriving in Wichita, Kansas in 1873, the heart of the Wild West era, would have seen signs declaring, “Leave Your Revolvers At Police Headquarters, and Get a Check.”
Elmo
So after almost six years away from it, and a resulting 30lb weight gain, I’m back seriously on the treadmill. I started my routine again last Saturday, and managed to also do Sunday, Wednesday and now again this morning.
I actually do enjoy it, because I treat it like dancing – whatever song is on the iPod, I have to keep that beat. So sometimes I run, and sometimes fast walk, and sometimes just walk at a good clip, but the rule is that I have to keep the beat for the whole song.
Back when I was going on the regular, I went five days a week and worked up to 3 miles in 40 minutes (I know that doesn’t sound like much, but it was a big deal for me). I lost 30lbs in 6 months. Then I broke my ankle – stress fracture.
Now all the weight is back plus a little, and I’m not getting any younger. So encourage me, Juicers! I gotta do this!
ruemara
Headed out to our local hippie festival today and tomorrow. Otherwise I might stay home and catch up on all the various house projects that need doing, plus the outstanding work from the tv pilot. Good luck on the run. I may have to change up the diet and exercise program. I’m just huge and Comic-Con is 2 months away. Intense diet and nothing is coming off. I’m just fucking solid and I want skinny. I’d try running but knees. You must have admirable knees, Betty.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Germy Shoemangler: Mickey shooting smack is a nice touch. :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
MattF
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Also, the ‘Lucky Pierre’ adventure of the three little pigs.
Davis X. Machina
@MomSense: In Maine, we have all four seasons: Winter, June, July and August.
MomSense
@Davis X. Machina:
I thought we had only three. Winter, mud, and road construction.
Southern Beale
@Germy Shoemangler:
Yes they are trying to normalize that which will never be normalized.
Davis X. Machina
@MomSense: I voted, a few years ago when the chickadee came in, and replaced the lobster on the license plate, to put a frost heave on it.
The complaint about the lobster was that it was narrowly coastal.
The potato, one suggested replacement, was considered too Aroostook-County-specific.
But we raise a fine crop of frost heaves right across the state.
Southern Beale
@MomSense:
How many times have I heard a distraught parent say, “I left my kids alone with a pile of meth just for a minute or two!”
/sarcasm
Why do we need gun control? Because people are fucking morons.
Germy Shoemangler
@Southern Beale:
People are morons with cars and trucks. Take a trip on any highway or side street and see some astounding idiocy on display. I certainly don’t trust anyone waving a firearm around.
Elmo
@MomSense: Johnny Carson once said California had four: Fire, Flood, Mud and Drought.
MattF
@Southern Beale: True, there’s really no need to work at normalizing stupidity.
MomSense
@Davis X. Machina:
My dad wanted to put the unofficial state flag on the license plate. It’s also known as the blue tarp.
NotMax
@ThresherK
Decadent mashed potatoes.
ThresherK
@MomSense: Thanks, but I don’t have a potato ricer. (And everyone raves about them, I know.) That does sort of put me in a circular argument, where I’ve been for the last 20 years about having one.
I have a potato masher, with square 1/4″ holes with 1/8″ separation; don’t know if that’s coarse or fine, but it does the trick for when I’m mashing bananas. The “paring knife” test will take me to the edge of properly cooked russets, I hope.
Maybe one of the slow-cooker recipes I’ve found, simply for the luxury of a bigger landing target, and plenty of opportunity to drag my wife over to tell me when I’ve done enough cooking or mashing.
Mike J
@MomSense: Blue tarp camper, you’re one of us.
Amir Khalid
@Southern Beale:
What amazes me about having a gun in America is that if you leave it lying around and your little boy ends up shooting his sister, it’s not even a sure thing that you’ll be prosecuted for criminal negligence.
MomSense
@ThresherK:
If you boil them with the skins on, they will absorb less water and soak up more fat and milk. That masher sounds like it would work.
MomSense
@Mike J:
HA! All my camping pictures from last year have us sitting or standing under blue tarps!!
satby
@greennotGreen: Feeling better is the main thing, so I hope you do soon!
mai naem mobile
@Germy Shoemangler: any.bets.on.whether FOX.will describe him as a Democrat because Vermont.and.Volvo driving latte drinkers
Randy P
@Southern Beale: The only defense against a 6 year old with a gun is another 6 year old with a gun.
Or something.
Emma
@Germy Shoemangler: That’s how I remember it too. The Rifleman explaining to his small son that a gun should only be used as a last resort and how careful you had to be.
NotMax
@Emma
Write your own The Rifleman caption.
@ThresherK
Same kind of masher I use. Works fine. Switch to whisk when mixing in butter, milk, etc.
Oh, and make sure to use a good starchy tater for mashed potatoes. Russet is ideal.
satby
@Elmo: I won’t only encourage you, I’ll join you on my elliptical. My only excuse is that I’m a stress eater, and it’s been non-stop stress for the last 10 years, first on my job, and then losing that hellish job and not having enough to live on. Things have been improving and I need to address the extra poundage now. My 60th B’day is only 9 days away and I want the next decade to feel better than the last one!
Cervantes
@Emma:
Right — so then I wonder if the problem really is that these lunatics “watched too many westerns when they were kids.”
What’s the median age, I wonder, of these people who have such poor gun hygiene. They seem young to me, what with all their gun-slinging toddlers, but I haven’t actually looked at the statistics.
Cervantes
@Amir Khalid:
It is amazing, but it also shows you what our true priorities are, at least in the jurisdictions where these decisions are made.
Botsplainer
@Cervantes:
The poor gun hygiene people are the sons and daughters of exurban Boomer watchers of too many Westerns, who themselves were young Nixon and Wallace voters in 1968.
Jasmine Bleach
@MomSense:
Yep, that’s it exactly. As people lose real power–incomes declining, jobs being shipped overseas, prices increasing, environmental pollution (e.g., contaminated water, etc.), destructive weather (drought, bigger storms, flooding, etc.) due to the changing climate, and other things an average person has no direct control over–coupled with the right-wing media (Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, etc.) linking all of it to minorities–you have a classic storm of declining power and someone to blame for it. I can totally see the attitude of “At least I still have my guns and that makes me strong!” as an easy way to cope psychologically, even if it’s not going to solve any of the real problems people have.
As wealth continues to transfer to the top 0.1%, as the environment gets more hostile in coming decades, and as taxes inevitably rise to pay for the shortfalls (e.g., raiding or destruction of social security, etc.), it’s just going to get easier to make the above case to more and more people as fear, poverty, hunger, etc. takes over. Even if what they’re pushing is totally against people’s real interests.
I’d love to be wrong, but unless we actually do get an FDR-like reformer and an agreeable congress in place to enact wide-sweeping reforms to solve some of this stuff, I just have to expect things will eventually break down in some way, or go into some sort of “police state” end game. I don’t know what it’s going to look like, but it probably won’t look much like Disneyland!
srv
35 years ago, the US followed the UK with the election of a right firebrand. Who will follow the Tory Revolution of 2015?
shell
Betty,
They said the first tropical storm of the season was heating up. Is that past you by now?
Doug R
@Schlemazel: Why don’t you watch Coraline?
Cervantes
@srv:
Allow me to ask you a question about “the Tory Revolution of 2015.”
Let’s look at two of the major parties in the 2015 election. Call them A and B, and let’s focus on England. Compared to the result achieved in the previous election, A gained more than 3% of the vote, while B gained a little more than 1% of the vote. Can you identify parties A and B? (Thanks.)
Amir Khalid
@srv:
I have a suggestion: Füttern wir nicht den Troll!
Botsplainer
@srv:
President Cruz is just what is needed to a awaken Americans from their slumber to rise up, vote, and Constitutionally demand universal, single payer health care, wealth redistribution, breakup of the banks and an end to the corporate personhood fiction, guaranteed minimum income, mandated veganism, a prohibition on the private ownership of firearms, the abolition of the U.S. Military (with complete disarmament), and freedom for Mumia.
srv
@Cervantes: I don’t think you understand how the UK works. All of Labours leaders are gone – it’s like Reid, Pelosi, Warren, Schumer all lost their elections. Thirty eight Labour MPs and counting.
Sully must be dancing naked in the streets.
Cervantes
@srv:
No, I didn’t think you’d answer the question, either.
PurpleGirl
@Germy Shoemangler: I forget the name of the store now but there was a sex shop on Second Avenue in Manhattan — all kinds of stuff, serious and silly. They had a T-shirt with Raggedy Ann and Andy on it performing a sex act. They had a catalog of their wares and it included a picture of the T-shirt.
Doug R
@srv: Alberta, the heart of Canada’s Conservative movement, just elected a Social Democratic government after 44 YEARS of Tory rule. I think England is the outlier. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/alberta-election-2015-ndp-sings-for-joy-harper-s-caucus-like-morgue-1.3063472
Ruckus
@Germy Shoemangler:
I must be weird then. I watched a lot of westerns as a kid and I think all these guns are stupid. Like jacked up 4x4s that never, ever seen dirt. Or supercars that never see a race track. There must be an awful lot of small dicks out there, compensating by being big dicks to the rest of us.
srv
@Doug R: The Saudis may be able to do for Alberta what they did to Syria, but they can’t deliver Texas to Hillary.
Germy Shoemangler
@Ruckus: You’re not weird. You’re smart.
Germy Shoemangler
@PurpleGirl: And I thought raggedy Andy was always limp.
Botsplainer
@srv:
Sullivan is a submissive’s submissive. Always ready to roll over on his back and pee all over himself for Big Daddy Tory.
Germy Shoemangler
@Cervantes:
Well I said my theory was crackpot. I allow myself one crackpot theory a week.
ruemara
@Elmo: You can do it. I’m good at cheering on others. Go team, ELMO!
@Amir Khalid: Be black and you will. Be white and you’ve suffered enough.
Cervantes
@Germy Shoemangler:
Oh, I don’t know. Your theory may still work — we just haven’t gathered enough evidence one way or another!
NotMax
@Germy Shoemangler
Q: Why didn’t the Dairy Queen have children?
A: She married Mr. Softee.
/7th grade humor
Germy Shoemangler
@NotMax:
reminds me of the classic “Why does doctor pepper come in bottles? Because his wife left him.”
Ruckus
@MomSense:
I think that people have always thought that their place in society is not all that secure. OK, maybe if you lived on a farm 30 miles from anyone else, but then you aren’t really living in society at that point. Not saying you aren’t correct but I think there is more to it than that. Crime is way down, especially violent crime and yet many seem to be scared of their own shadows. But in most urban areas there is a much more of a cultural mix than 30-50 yrs ago. I think that subtle racism (and in many, a not so subtle racism) is a big part of the reason that many are scared. People are scared of the unknown and the NRA is taking huge advantage of that. Let’s face it, to many americans the rest of the world is an unknown and they like it that way. It was this way 40 yrs ago, when on liberty in europe I’d go ashore and have a grand time, trying to talk to people and going to museums or just hanging out and observing. Back on the ship, some fellas would come back complaining about how no one spoke english or the beer didn’t taste like watered down piss and I’d wonder how we both walked off the same gangplank and ended up in two different worlds.
lol chikinburd
@ThresherK: Disappointed that “They lose me after the bunker scene” didn’t show up in the first twenty comments in this thread. It should have been the first thing that came to mind.
WereBear
Some people have zero tolerance outside of their tiny comfort zone. Like children, when you cut the vegetables a different way.
It’s a combination of upbringing, personality, and opportunity. My brother and I; same parents, same house growing up, yet he’s inflexible as all get out out, and I’m the opposite.
NotMax
Anyone watching Schitt’s Creek?
Haven’t done so yet, because while like Eugene Levy and Catherine O’Hara, loathe Chris Elliot.
PurpleGirl
@Germy Shoemangler: Why did Bach have so many children?
.
.
.
His organ had no stops on it.
(Told to me by a Lutheran musician.)
Ruckus
@Germy Shoemangler:
For me it’s always been smart-ass. Guess that’s better than dumbass.
Ruckus
@WereBear:
I’ll second the little children part. Always looking for the negative, never that doing things different or that a different beer might, just might be better.
MomSense
@Ruckus:
I think racism is a huge component as they look around and feel that their status as white males is slipping. I think women are a threat to them as well. Women who are active in gun control issues experience terrible harassment that their male colleagues do not.
You hear these gun fetishists talk about government tyranny but when a black male is killed by police they are on the side of tyranny.
Doug R
@srv: Alberta’s turnout was about 54%. If Texas does that, it’s blue.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Botsplainer:
Along those lines, Smartypants reminds us today:
Unpossible!!1
Cheers,
Scott.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Ruckus: Yup. Even Dirty Harry was obviously play-acting. The Rifleman’s gun didn’t have any recoil and neither did any of the others. It was obvious even to a little kid that they were little more than glorified cap guns.
But I doubt that most of the current young gun nuts are influenced by old TV shows. It’s probably another reflection of tribalism.
My dad sent me this link that was going around his friends – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrhSf8CEgC8 (1:46). See, guns are fun fashion accessories! :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
Jasmine Bleach
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
But the issue was never single payer at all–it was Public Option. Not the same thing. Strawman agrument being presented there as single payer was never even on the table or being discussed as a realistic option. Sure, progressives commented that they wanted single payer, but what progressives were fighting for was a Public Option to be included with the ACA.
Not one mention of the Public Option in that article.
I love (not) how folks like those at the link you provide try to change the narrative to a false one in order to try to change historical facts to support their current views. In effect, it actually undermines their argument as the actual facts become apparent.
But, nice attempt to try to make progressives seem unrealistic! Yet again. Happens every day it seems. It’s like another version of Fox news, only difference is the people saying they’re on the same side as you before presenting the BS and using that as a basis for argument.
Davis X. Machina
@srv: Balls lost his seat. The rest just resigned their positions in leadership. That happens here, cf. Newt in ’98.
Germy Shoemangler
I’ve always wondered that about TV & Movie guns. I know they’re blanks, but how loud are they?
Whenever I see someone in “real life” at a gun range or testing a firearm, they have earplugs or other hearing protection. But on the shows, characters are blasting away. Do they dub in the noise later? Or do actors go deaf from all the takes and re-takes?
Davis X. Machina
@Jasmine Bleach: The public option was a shibboleth.
It could never have delivered what people expected from it, even its proponents knew that it would cover a fraction of the newly insured — and those are the people who even knew what it was.
I gave up counting the times I saw ‘single payer public option’, elided just like that, on DemocraticUnderground.com, e.g.
Cervantes
@Davis X. Machina:
Well, Jim Murphy and Douglas Alexander lost, too.
But yes, when someone says “I don’t think you understand how the UK works,” and then proceeds to display their ignorance in living color (as it were) …
Tenar Darell
@Schlemazel: If you don’t want something long, try Stardust or The Graveyard Book or even Odd and the Frost Giants. They’re all rather enjoyable, and actually sound really good read aloud. They are essentially YA and Juvenile novels, but that doesn’t mean they’re simple. He really doesn’t write down at all.
Davis X. Machina
@Cervantes: The reason why they failed to hold those seats though had little to do with Labour’s present problems, and everything to do with Scots nationalism. Alexander wasn’t run out because Labour’s foreign policy stand was what kneecapped Labour.
Once the election became Referendum 2.0, the ordinary analysis went out the window.
Tenar Darell
Oops, put in too many links to Neil Gaiman books in my comment to Schlemazel. Please fish me out?
opiejeanne
@ThresherK: A cast of thousands, and my grandfather.
https://flic.kr/p/kS7ts
Cervantes
@Davis X. Machina:
I mentioned the two only because it is not the case that they “just resigned their positions in leadership.”
Davis X. Machina
@Cervantes: It’s true, but largely irrelevant. In other words, the good sort of quibble, but a quibble.
Cervantes
@Davis X. Machina:
Can’t quibble with that!
Ruckus
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
True about the acting. When I first fired a gun I knew there was going to be recoil, I had actually seen a real one fired. But feeling it brought perspective to those movies, like the war ones with a hand carried machine gun. On the ship we had to fire the weapons we carried, supposedly to “qualify.” So the gunners mates brought out a BAR, which is a fully auto 30-06. It has a kick, to say the least. One gm fired a full clip fully auto, barely moved. He had done this before. Next gm started firing, by the time he got his finger off the trigger he had rotated 90 deg and everyone else had hit the deck, out of fear for our lives. Knowledge of what guns can do and everyone who they can do it to seems to be something that no one is talking about. At least no one on the pro side. It is an embarrassing (at least to the pros) issue that a gun without a well reasoned operator does kill. And as we know many people are not well reasoned operators. Not of guns, not of cars, anything really. Lawn darts were a bad idea, given that humans would be operating them, and they have a limited range and killing power compared to guns and cars.
Could we do better as humans? Sure, given our current level of stupidity improvement is quite possible. But given our current level of stupidity it is also quite improbable. We have made cars safer, because we refuse to make the operators better and because there are limits to what can be done to change humans, and we need to do the same for guns. But we won’t. Because reasons.
Cckids
@Cervantes:
IMO, they’re the people who grew up in the modern NRA; the “all guns all the time ” era. Back in the 60’s & 70’s, the NRA was mainly about safety & education.
Davis X. Machina
I’m wondering when the Tories finally figure out that there just aren’t enough Labour seats south of the Tyne, in a world where SNP rules Scotland, to ever threaten their parliamentary majority again — if they just let the sweaties go.
Permanent hold on power v. sentimental attachment to the Union? Once the Tory leader is no longer a Scotsman, I bet the Conservatives take the deal.
It’s dishing the Whigs on a grand scale.
vheidi
@ThresherK: i got a ricer, it’s supposed to be for spatzle, but it makes the fluffiest mashed potatoes ever, and easy
vheidi
@vheidi:
Fywp no edit, but I see MomSense got there first
John M. Burt
@Chris: I have been known to call it the Unshielded Nuclear Reactor.
Ruckus
@Chris:
Sounds about right.
@John M. Burt:
True but a bit long winded. I like Chris’s better, puts the results right up front.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Davis X. Machina: Thanks.
Oh Jasmine, I was only responding to Bot’s mention of single payer because I saw Smartypants mention Bernie’s comments on it. Thought it was interesting. That is all.
Cheers,
Scott.
John M. Burt
@Tenar Darell: Agreed, Gaiman’s writing usually sounds good read aloud. That may even be his ideal medium, which seems a bit ironic considering he began his career writing comic book scripts.
John M. Burt
@NotMax:
Q: Why didn’t the Dairy Queen have children?
A: She married Mr. Softee.
Yes, but the Dairy Queen did eventually get pregnant, because the Burger King couldn’t handle his whopper.
ThresherK
@lol chikinburd: Heehee, yes. This crowd has sorta set a standard for itself, hasn’t it?
There may just no longer be enough of a shared culture about Ye Olde Movie Studio Days for that to work any longer except in a sense of nostalgia. First, one would have to setup what a movie studio is, the physical thing, to about anyone under 40 (which means “about the entire audience that drives mainstream movies to get made”).
See “S.O.B” (1981?) and “Who Framed Roger Rabbit”, made a mere 14 years after “Blazing Saddles” and itself now 27 years old (!), as perhaps the last ones able to mine that seam of ore. With people who were there.
As for moderns, I guess my standouts are “The Player” and “Tropic Thunder”. There are always going to be movies about movies, and they have to keep up with the truth or they just don’t feel right.
@opiejeanne: Neat! All those cowboys and only one hunchback.
Jay C
@NotMax:
I dunno: from the look on Chuck Connors’ face, I thinking it’s something like:
“Hit me with those logs again you little shit, and I’ll kick your ass – publicity or no…”
Brachiator
@Germy Shoemangler: Guns have always been normalized in America, and always a mixed blessing or mixed terror.
TV westerns idealized guns, but did not create their appeal. On tv, the heroes always shoot straightest, and never kill the innocent or the wrong person.
Brachiator
@srv: Tory Revolution? Very droll contradiction of terms.
I will call your Tory Revolution and raise you one SNP butt kicking.