Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

America is going up in flames. The NYTimes fawns over MAGA celebrities. No longer a real newspaper.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

Republicans do not pay their debts.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

The lights are all blinking red.

Tide comes in. Tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Rupert, come get your orange boy, you petrified old dinosaur turd.

Everybody saw this coming.

In my day, never was longer.

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

How stupid are these people?

The words do not have to be perfect.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

How any woman could possibly vote for this smug smarmy piece of misogynistic crap is beyond understanding.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

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  1. 1.

    PsiFighter37

    Seems like the ‘scandal’ of the day involves George Stephanopoulos giving money to the Clinton Foundation.

    Seriously, the media is a fucking joke. 1) Georgie made a career out of the 1992 campaign, so it’s not like he has to curry any favor with the Clintons; and 2) the foundation, regardless of where its money comes from, seems to be involved in nonpartisan charitable activity.

    Naturally, Georgie is practically on his knees weeping and begging for forgiveness. What a goddamn tool / perfect exemplar of Democrats acting like beaten spouses. Of course, the GOP is just piling on because they know he’ll take it.

  4. 4.

    JPL

    @PsiFighter37: The Clinton Foundation is a charitable organization not a political one. I’d like Steph to fight back against the donations but he won’t.

  5. 5.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @PsiFighter37:

    I heard this, and couldn’t (can’t) understand why it’s supposed to be a scandal at all, and why anyone would think Stephanopoulos wouldn’t donate to the Clinton Foundation. The only thing I can think of (and I haven’t read or heard any details yet, just headlines) is that maybe he was in violation of some ABC regulation?

    It won’t be a story for long. Too many syllables in Stephanopoulos-Ghazi-Gate.

  6. 6.

    beltane

    @SiubhanDuinne: When you consider the extent to which most of the Beltway media is in bed-in many cases actually sleeping with-various lobbyists and politicians, it makes the whole thing even more absurd.

  8. 8.

    Roger Moore

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I heard this, and couldn’t (can’t) understand why it’s supposed to be a scandal at all

    Because the Republicans say so. Look, the latest narrative is that there’s something fishy and wrong with the Clinton Foundation, so anyone who’s associated with it in any way must apologize and promise not to do so again. That’s how the game works.

  9. 9.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @beltane:

    I know. Talk about a non-story. Meant to hurt Hillary, of course. Wonder which of the many GOP candidates or moneybags or media tools decided this was worth putting out there now.

  12. 12.

    jl

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    From the news story below, I can see why it would be an issue. Stephanopoulos probably should have disclosed it when interviewing Schweizer, the bozo who wrote the BS Clinton Cash book. But, I don’t see how it is a ‘Holy Cow!’ major journalistic scandal. We have several recent examples that are much worse: Williams and O’Reilly, for example.

    George Stephanopoulos busted for not disclosing donations to the Clinton Foundation
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/abc-anchor-apologizes-not-disclosing-142931019.html

  13. 13.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Roger Moore:

    Well, I have to agree that the stupidest entity in this whole thing is Stephanopoulos himself, if he’s really doing mea culpas and begging forgiveness. As far as I can tell, he broke no laws nor did anything unethical — unless, as I suggested above, ABC has some kind of rule that their employees can’t donate to presidential libraries.

  16. 16.

    Raven

    @Omnes Omnibus: A couple of years ago she packed right after a “procedure”. I thought she was on top of it but she left all kinds of stuff behind,

  18. 18.

    Felonius Monk

    @JPL:

    I’d like Steph to fight back against the donations but he won’t.

    Of course he won’t. After all this is the guy who was shocked by blow-jobs. He’s now shocked by his own charitable giving which makes him both a dick and a tool.

  20. 20.

    Corner Stone

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Well, I have to agree that the stupidest entity in this whole thing is Stephanopoulos himself, if he’s really doing mea culpas and begging forgiveness.

    Why he gave them anything is a mystery to me. He was a POS moral scold after the Monica stuff, qualing shit like, “He lied to me! To me! About his personal marriage!”
    *faints*

  21. 21.

    shell

    Any good movies on tonight?
    ***********
    Last night TCM showed ‘Zero Hour’. The movie that they based the parody ‘Airplane’ on. You could practically supply each joke to every line of dialogue.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @jl:

    Okay, I didn’t know he had interviewed the guy. Yeah, he could have said a one-sentence disclaimer before the interview aired. I’m surely no fan of the Clinton Guy Shocked By Blowjobs® (thank you, Mr. Pierce), but I just can’t get too exercised about this. Not a big deal. Not even a big fucking deal.

  23. 23.

    Corner Stone

    @Felonius Monk:

    Of course he won’t. After all this is the guy who was shocked by blow-jobs. He’s now shocked by his own charitable giving which makes him both a dick and a tool.

    I’d be laughing about this all if I were WJC.

  25. 25.

    Tommy

    @SiubhanDuinne: It blows my mind. If Bush has a charity (does he?) I wouldn’t question it. Isn’t that what rich and smart people are supposed to do. Improve the world around them. Give back.

    Look if The Clinton Foundation is giving money to shady places I got issues with that. But not heard anybody make that case. Not remotely.

  26. 26.

    jl

    @SiubhanDuinne: Fact that Stephanopoulos started out working for Cilnton campaign long ago would be more of a relevant major conflict of interest when interviewing Schweizer. But that is not even an issue, looks like, it’s assumed everyone knows that.

    Would be interesting to see if GS did break an actual written ABC rule. Or course, I haven’t seen minor details like that in the news stories. If not, then this is more GOP fake scandal nonsense, GS should make a statement and call it a day not grovel, and ABC should maybe re-write its rules if they think, in retrospect, this is some problem.

    I’m no more a fan of Stephanopoulos than any of the other news divas on TV, and he already seems ‘grovelly’ enough when interviewing the various VSP on his show. So, I will ignore the fuss henceforth.

  27. 27.

    piratedan

    it would be nice if George had an American President moment and simply told these asshats that just because it has the name CLINTON in front of it it doesn’t mean it’s political. After all, there’s quite a few of the bullshit Tea Party tax-exempt organizations that do fuck all to help anyone do anything other than elect GOP nutjobs, so these folks can simply piss off.

    It’s no bleeping wonder the Dems can’t attract any talent because it appears that you have to spend all damn day defend decent acts of kindness while these bastards sharpen their knives for the next round. damn shame that we spent more time on this than we did with Senator Coburn being Senator Ensign’s bag man.

  30. 30.

    Felonius Monk

    In other non-news today, John Bolton (who?) has apparently announced that he will not run for president. I’m not sure which presidency he is not going to run for, but the only one that he is qualified for is the presidency of Dickheads of America — and even here he will have some pretty stiff competition.

  31. 31.

    Corner Stone

    @Felonius Monk:

    presidency of Dickheads of America — and even here he will have some pretty stiff competition.

    I’m seeing what you’re doing there but doesn’t it belong in the sex ed thread?

  32. 32.

    NotMax

    @dw

    Others are likely much better at attempting that than I. Most floral scents smell alike to me.

    That said, sort of a syrupy floral perfume. The flowers produce no nectar but fool some moths into pollinating them by giving off a scent which mimics nectar.

    Plumeria trees rampant here and bloom just about year-round. The flowers are commonly used when making leis.

  34. 34.

    Howard Beale IV

    Those people who are bitching the loudest about ol’ George’s donations should cough up their own 1040s and let the chips fall where they may. Douchebags-all of ’em.

  35. 35.

    beltane

    I have only smelled Plumeria in perfumes. It is lovely though sometimes overwhelming. I am envious of Betty Cracker right now.

  36. 36.

    raven

    Tweety is for drones because if we had them in the Nam we could have killed Giap and ended the war. The depth of this motherfucker’s stupidity is unreal.

  37. 37.

    Felonius Monk

    @jl: Groucho was far more qualified for public office than Bolton could ever dream of.

  38. 38.

    Tommy

    @Felonius Monk: Is this you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0mGl7xOt2c

    Not sure why I Googled your screen name. Not something I ever do. I think it was because I am a jazz fan and I was just wondering.

    That above link is so not safe for work but that is an epic rant. I don’t like much of the middle of the video, but the start and if you get to the end is over-the-top in your face. I do like that.

  39. 39.

    Felonius Monk

    @Tommy: Naw, I can’t claim any credit for that. He’s got my nym, but not my face.

    I hadn’t seen that before. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

  41. 41.

    thruppence

    We’re thanking Thor for some rare Northern California rain, lightning, and thunder. Won’t break the drought, but at least it will wash some of the dirt out of the air…

  42. 42.

    JustRuss

    My wife’s been trying to raise some plumeria sticks for a few years. They won’t die…or do anything else. Hope they make it, those look amazing

  44. 44.

    gogol's wife

    @shell:

    I was so mad that we missed the first hour of it. But the last half hour was priceless! “I’ve got to get out of here!” “It’s his ship, his command.”

  45. 45.

    Felonius Monk

    @Tommy: Actually, I grew up an Indians fan and have never shaken my fondness for them. Although I have lived in NY (not the city) for the past 40-plus years, I have never been able to become a Yankees fan and don’t care too much about the Mets.

    I was slightly acquainted with Stan Musial’s son while in college — my only tie to the Cardinals.

  47. 47.

    Germy Shoemangler

    In the trailer for Ted 2, newlywed Ted sneaks into Tom Brady’s bedroom, hoping to use him as a sperm donor.

    Angelic choir and bright light when Ted pulls back the covers.

  48. 48.

    catclub

    News Corp, owner of Fox news, gave to the Clinton Foundation. Does Fox News mention this when discussing Clinton Foundation items? I doubt it.

    Also,NewsMax was a donor. Knock me over with a feather.

  49. 49.

    NotMax

    @shell

    The Hurricane blows on to TCM at 2:15 a.m. Eastern.

    Pacing can now and then be a bit pokey, however the special effects still are outstanding. And so far as something to ogle, Dorothy Lamour and Jon Hall ain’t exactly chopped liver.

    And yes, there’s a bit of “white man’s burden” in there but considering it was released in 1937, not excruciatingly overt.

  50. 50.

    Tommy

    @Felonius Monk: My bad. I took “nym” as you were a fan. Nothing wrong with that, just a sport. But us Cardinals fans have long memories. Mom used to joke she put headphones on her belly when I was a fetus so I could hear Jack Buck call a Cards game in 1969. Pretty sure if you cut me I bleed Cardinal red.

  55. 55.

    PaulW

    As part of my busy month, I’m at the Florida Library Association tomorrow to do a presentation on our revised state-level standards for library services.

    I want to remind everyone here that they need to travel to Wesley Chapel on Saturday May 30th from 2 pm to 4 pm to show support for the Local Authors at the Barnes & Noble store. C’mon, if we can get people from all 50 states to show, that might impress the nightly news camera crews…

    Also, Rick “Medicare Fraud” Scott is still a dick. He’s blaming the Senate for the state budget impasse – even when the Senate wants a deal and it’s him and the damn lazy House that won’t – and threatening a state-level shutdown. Sigh.

  56. 56.

    raven

    And furthermore. They put this big ass dressing on my finger/hand and then give me an ice pack to use every couple of hours. It’s never going to get cold!

  59. 59.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    @PsiFighter37:

    What I have been told is that George S. did an investigative report about Hillary’s campaign finances without revealing that he had made a contribution to the Clinton Foundation. So it was doing a story without revealing that potential conflict of interest that got him in trouble.

  60. 60.

    rikyrah

    Right-to-work goes down in flames in Illinois House with zero yes votes
    Posted: 05/14/2015, 04:17pm | Natasha Korecki

    Gov. Bruce Rauner’s desires to have right-to-work in Illinois went down in flames in the House on Thursday gaining zero yes votes in a fiery debate Democrats aimed squarely at the governor.

    The vote tally was 0 yes votes, 72 no votes and 37 voting present, offering a blistering rebuke to Rauner’s anti-union agenda. A handful of Republicans went for a walk during the vote, not publicly falling on one side or another.

    Republicans dismissed the vote as political theater even as Democrats pit workers’ rights against corporate greed and called Rauner “divisive” for touring the state and essentially asking local towns to kick unions out.

    “Don’t be afraid, stay with us, vote no!” state Rep. Jay Hoffman, D-Belleville, said.

    Illinois House Republican Leader Jim Durkin, R-Western Springs, lambasted Democrats for moving what he said amounted to “sham bills” in the House. The legislation voted on Thursday was not drafted by the governor’s office. Last week, Illinois House Speaker Mike Madigan had urged Rauner to give him language for a bill, needling Rauner that he had talked about right-to-work for 100 days.

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/607377/right-work-goes-flames-illinois-house-zero-yes-votes

  61. 61.

    Tommy

    @raven: Got no issue with Cubs fans. But easy for me to say that because we are good and your team is not. Not even a debatable fact.

  63. 63.

    Germy Shoemangler

    @rikyrah: Interesting, the part you bolded about the republicans who took a walk during the vote.

    They don’t want to be associated with the issue anymore? Does this signal a change in the political zeitgeist?

  68. 68.

    Tommy

    @rikyrah: Hoffman is the Congress person the district next to mine. You can do a lot of things in this state but you don’t mess with unions, which is clear by this vote.

  70. 70.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    Also, too, we’re going to a lecture about Pasadena history at Huntington Library tonight (or, as Roger Moore would prefer me to say, the Huntington). Yes, it’s Date Night for Nerds.

  71. 71.

    Suzanne

    This week has been absolutely nutty at work, and I have a colleague who complained about me to the managing partners. So they organized a meeting where we sat down with a managing partner and a studio director, and he ended up acting like a total egomaniacal asshole and refused to work on my project because he thinks I don’t lick his boots enough. Good riddance, because I have been exceedingly unimpressed with his work, considering that he is the SENIOR MEDICAL PLANNER, as he informed me at least eight times today. Afterward, our studio director told me that despite being much younger than this dude, I am far more mature and professional.

  73. 73.

    Betty Cracker

    @Tommy: Yeah, but now they’ve got Joe Madden! I wouldn’t bet against them in a couple of years.

  74. 74.

    lamh36

    Was reading about this today. At first I was like ooh a Sudanese Princess…yes…then I read the story and was like..um…wtf?

    Disney’s Sudanese Princess Movie Will Have White Main Characters, Be Egregiously Racist

    Yesterday The Hollywood Reporter wrote that screenwriter Stephany Folsom had been tapped to write Disney’s latest princess movie, a “unique princess tale inspired by the true account of an American [white] man claiming a territory in Africa and proclaiming himself and his family its royal rulers,” which, uh…where to begin?

    THR went on to explain that The Princess of North Sudan will focus on

    […] an American dad whose daughter asked if she would ever be a real princess. That question set the man on a search for a region in the world that was disputed, eventually finding a territory named Bir Tawil, an area between Egypt and Sudan. In June of 2014, he flew to the area, planted a flag and, calling it the Kingdom of North Sudan, claimed it for himself and his family

    .

    I mean it’s sorta based on a true story. From Jezebel:

    Disney’s Movie About a White Princess of Sudan Is Probably a Bad Idea

    Disney has a movie in the works about a white man who buys land in Sudan so that his daughter can be a princess. Interesting. Sounds cool.

    In fact, The Princess of North Sudan is based on a true story. In real life, a farmer from Virginia named Jeremiah Heaton traveled through the desert to an unclaimed area bordering Egypt and Sudan, where he planted a flag and the seed for his daughter Emily’s future imaginary kingdom.

    By the time Emily turned seven last year (on June 16), her dad had a literal flag up in North Sudan and declared her a (white Nubian) princess. A cool thing to do if you have the advantage of taking over some far away land…

    Wow. Why do I imagine a room probably mostly absent of non-white folk reading this story and thinking…”hell yeah…now this is gonna be a fun wholesome family film”…yeah for who?

    I mean…no one said, “um guys, I’m not too sure about this one…”

  75. 75.

    raven

    =@efgoldman: We went to see them at County Stadium in 1955. Dad thought it was a night game so we piddled at the Milwaukee zoo for hours. We walked by someone with a transistor and heard the game on! We caught one inning.

  76. 76.

    Germy Shoemangler

    Disney’s latest princess movie, a “unique princess tale inspired by the true account of an American [white] man claiming a territory in Africa and proclaiming himself and his family its royal rulers,”

    What the hell were they thinking greenlighting something like this?

  77. 77.

    SuperHrefna

    Hope you are feeling ok after your procedure Raven!

    Wow those flowers are pretty.

    I got lucky today and was able to see the NT Live broadcast of George Bernard Shaw’s Man or Superman starring Ralph Fiennes. I knew it was going to be thought provoking but I was blown way by how funny it was into the bargain. Truly a splendid production and I’m so glad I got to duck out if a slow day to be blown away by it.

  78. 78.

    Tommy

    @Betty Cracker: LOL. How many years do I need to hear the Cubs will win the World Series? I’ve heard it my entire life and they never done it.

  80. 80.

    scav

    @lamh36: Congrats probably due to Sudan and Egypt for their measued response to the crazy oyibo out in the dessert crowning things.

  81. 81.

    Mike J

    @Germy Shoemangler: Even skipping the racial overtones the story is one big WTF. Buying land in a disputed border area so you can call your daughter a princess? That’s mental illness.

  83. 83.

    SFAW

    @Felonius Monk:

    : Groucho was far more qualified for public office than Bolton could ever dream of

    And had a better mustache. Well, at least he did in Night at the Opera.

  86. 86.

    skerry

    I’m back in Baltimore from a visit to NYC to see daughter #2 conclude her college career at NYU.

    Found a seat on the Bolt Bus since Amtrak is still out of service. Not fun. Can’t get through to the customer service to get my refund. Maybe next week.

  87. 87.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    @lamh36:
    @Germy Shoemangler:

    The writer says she’s not doing a true story and that the HR is distorting what the film will actually be.

    Sometimes studios end up having to buy the rights to people’s stories if they’re vaguely similar to a studio project, so it may not have a whole lot to do with the guy’s story. There’s just not enough detail right now for me to get a handle on what’s actually happening.

  88. 88.

    PaulW

    @efgoldman:

    Florida Man actually has state-level standards for libraries? A minimum of ten books? Jeff Davis’ biography? Allen West’s latest tome? A shelf of cheap Roanne novels?

    Florida library standards cover such things as ensuring enough public computers to serve the needy, a sizable collection of library books and AV materials based on demographics, free ownership of library cards, effective collection management to keep Allen West’s self-serving work of glaring inaccuracies off the fiction shelves, and expansion of services to include creativity workspace.

    You’d be amazed how popular libraries are in Florida. Nearly every bond/tax hike vote in the last 15-20 years has been Yes for library funding. Even in conservative places like Jacksonville.

  89. 89.

    Zinsky

    Anything and everything Bill and Hillary Clinton have ever done in their lives is a scandal according to conservatives. The right wing is masterful at spinning every action they take into a misdeed or crime – Drudge is masterful at it. In the end, I don’t think any of these pseudo-scandals will make a popcorn fart’s difference and Hillary will win in a landslide in 2016, due to a combination of a recognition that America needs a woman president and overall fatigue with the Republican Party.

  91. 91.

    scav

    @Mike J: The tightly bound and presumably re-enforced linkage of social-status, wish-fulfillment, money and love is also thrillingly Disney. I guess. Or is this the lens-flare signature of the edgy reboot?

  94. 94.

    Shana

    Those flowers are beautiful. Thanks for the pic.

    I’m happy that our landscaping is finally done around the addition/kitchen remodel that took almost all of 2014 due to fraud – yes, we’re going to court. It looks fabulous, both kitchen and landscaping.

    Looking forward to Hubby coming home tomorrow although late after a week in Orlando on business. The weather has been lovely the last couple of days, which my hot flashes appreciate. I can’t take HRT because of a family history of breast cancer and I’ve been taking Brisdelle for a couple of months which seems to help. Not sure how well it will work once the DC summer kicks in full time. Tell me it doesn’t last forever. Please.

  95. 95.

    lamh36

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Ok. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you either work for or once worked for the Mouse House company?

    If that’s not you, then no matter. So taking Disney out of it then. What about the story is supposed to be wholesome family fun?

    The part where some random American decided to squat on some REAL overseas country’s land and claim it at his own by virtue of what?

    What exactly is wholesome about that? This is not “We Bought A Zoo”. I’d love to hear how one makes such a story wholesome?

    I mean they are not even using a fake country and this is a real life dude. Just cause a story if for sale, doesn’t mean it just HAS to be told.

    Seriously, I’m trying to find the wholesome aspect of this whole thing.

  96. 96.

    Betty Cracker

    @PaulW: I may be alone in this, but I don’t blame Madden for leaving and am grateful for what he did to advance the club during his tenure. Ownership was clearly set on a fire sale.

  99. 99.

    raven

    You know I have friends who have had incredible fights against odds they knew they could not overcome. Then a gifted young man kills himself today and I’m just at a loss.

  100. 100.

    SFAW

    @PaulW:

    We Rays fans

    Well, everybody’s gotta be something, I guess.

    But, who are “the Rays”? Is that the Devil Rays?

  102. 102.

    beltane

    @lamh36: This movie sounds like a fairy tale version of Cecil Rhodes life, if he had aspired to be a princess. It’s hard to imagine something like this would be even considered in 2015.

  104. 104.

    scav

    @beltane: Cecil Rhodes in a tiara and high heels in a desert? Is so totally now I think it’s a remake so even more totally.

  105. 105.

    lamh36

    You can check out a pic of the dad “planting his flag” on his new country “The Kingdom of Northern Sudan”! I kid you not!

    http://wonkette.com/585626/youre-gonna-love-disneys-new-white-african-princess

    …NOW you see why Disney bought the rights to this heartwarming story, The Princess Of North Sudan. Disney says it is NOT telling a story about an idiot white hick claiming African land to give to his white snowflake baby, it just bought the rights to a story about an idiot white hick claiming African land to give to his white snowflake baby.

    The Hollywood Reporter says that the Disney version will focus on “the relationship between the father and daughter set against a backdrop of a fantastical adventure,” awwwww. Because there is nothing more magical than teaching your baby girl how to declare herself the benevolent dictator of African people…

    As for the real Jeremiah Heaton, he says that at the moment, he’s trying to “establish positive relationships with neighboring nations of Sudan and Egypt by converting his newfound sovereignty into an ecologically and agriculturally sustainable nation where his family can live together and reign as the royal family.” African warlords won’t have any problem with this, don’t be silly. And guess what! He’s CROWDFUNDING for his “Kingdom Of North Sudan”:..

  107. 107.

    Peale

    @raven: wow. You are so wrong! Things that dropped bombs were in such short supply in Vietnam. I could really see drones being decisive since we were so reluctant to do any damage over there. We practically limited ourselves to bayonets and cross bows.

  109. 109.

    SFAW

    @lamh36:

    And guess what! He’s CROWDFUNDING for his “Kingdom Of North Sudan”:..

    Another anti-Obamacare whiner?

  112. 112.

    jibeaux

    Those flowers are so stunning, I had to Google what zone they grow in.
    10.
    GTH, Betty. Or I guess just wait a month without leaving the state.

  114. 114.

    scav

    @SFAW: Opportunity to tie-in with the movie. Sorta like pet rocks, buy a little bit of magic soil and your wee snowflake can be a (Cabbage?) Princess too!

  115. 115.

    askew

    @PsiFighter37:

    I am fine with it because George was the most inept moderator in the entire 2008 cycle when he moderated the Obama/Hillary debate. He spent the whole time talking about flag pins, Rezko and Rev. Wright.

    Unfortunately and inexplicably, he is only withdrawing from the GOP debate but not the Dem one. His bias towards Hillary in the Obama/Hillary debate was painful.

  117. 117.

    Hal

    Oh Lord Hey-Zeus! Can someone please take Raven-Symone aside and talk some sense to her?

    http://hellobeautiful.com/2015/05/14/raven-symone-race-harriet-tubman/

    I think we need to move a little bit more forward … I understand, let me just preface that I understand the history, I get it, trust me , I was taught, I’m in that culture …
    … Me personally, I would have chosen Rosa Parks. I would have chosen someone that is closer to the progression that we’re doing now. And I know you have to understand history so that you don’t repeat it, but that doesn’t really happen in our world, because we still repeat history of hating other cultures over and over again. So I would choose a different one, no offense.

    Wanting Rosa parks is one thing, but she seems to think Tubman isn’t a modern enough symbol in today’s world. I’m honestly surprised she didn’t want all lives matter on the 20 instead. Raven-Symone needs to drop the provocateur, new black persona. She’s turning into Elizabeth Hasselback.

  118. 118.

    PsiFighter37

    @lamh36: Wait, Disney actually paid real money (i.e. not Bitcoins) for this, and made it into a movie? I could sell them a soundtrack of my post-drunk night shits and it’d be a) more realistic; and b) a more interesting way to get people to part with their money to experience the joy of Dolby-quality flatulence.

    As long as they don’t screw up the new Star Wars movie, I guess…

    PF37 +3

  119. 119.

    askew

    @Tommy:

    Look if The Clinton Foundation is giving money to shady places I got issues with that. But not heard anybody make that case. Not remotely.

    This article on the Clinton Foundation and Haiti is depressing and eye-opening. I don’t think they are giving money to shady people but they definitely over-promised and under-delivered in Haiti. It also shows what a clusterfuck of disorganization the CF seems to be, which isn’t terribly surprising considering Hillary’s 2008 campaign and Bill’s WH.

  122. 122.

    MomSense

    I designed something really pretty with some hand painted silk and SeaCell (a seaweed fiber) yarn that was given to me. Now I have to soak and block it to show off the lace. I found a woman to photograph my designs but she is leaving soon for a few months so I have to get all my projects ready for her in a hurry.

  123. 123.

    jl

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): The nubbin of substance to the Stephanopoulos mega scandal of the day is that he did not disclose that he contributed money to the Clinton Foundation while doing an interview with the bozo who wrote the BS scandal book, Clinton Cash, which concerned the Clinton Foundation. I’m not sure exactly how that constitutes a conflict of interest, since Steph gave money to the foundation, and did not receive any consideration in return, and did not get money. But let’s humor them for the sake of argument.

    Why this is a huge ‘win’ for the right wing (a story I just saw on the Yahoo news), or why Steph has to grovel and beg and cry and be all very very sorry instead of just clarifying the record, or why anyone cares whether this particular goofus moderates any debate whatever, or ever judges a HS debate again ever for the rest of the life of the universe, or whatever, is beyond me.

    But, it seems to make some GOPer hacks and reactionary loons happy, and maybe will keep them out of trouble for a few days, so I guess that is the silver lining.

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    lamh36

    @PsiFighter37: Apparently they bought the rights, but as Wonkette said so if they plan to write a completely different story, why pay all this money for rights to this story…?

  126. 126.

    gwangung

    @lamh36: Oh, that’s one’s easy. To save on court costs from sue happy wannabes. Had acquaintances who had story rights bought up when their story had nothing to do with the eventual project, but the fees were substantially lower than the projected court costs.

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    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @raven: There aren’t really adequate words, but even gifted people can feel trapped and despairing. It’s a neurotransmitter issue, and it’s real. I know this from experience.

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    raven

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): The outpouring just on his Facebook is overwhelming. This is one example

    I really can’t believe what I’m reading. It’s obvious that he has passed, but in the most befitting way possible, the outpouring of love and respect is wonderful to see. He was a great friend and the nicest and kindest person I knew. I have not seen him in over a decade, but knowing about his activism and care for the community in Athens has always been a joy to follow. We all think of him as a great musician. I choose to think of him as someone who loved everything and everyone unconditionally. I would love if someone could message me and let me know what happened. Thanks.

    So at this point I guess I should say that it is not confirmed that it was suicide.

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    Peale

    @lamh36: the Disney employed commenter named after a muse is probably correct. There is probably enough similarity between the stories that they didn’t want to be sued eventually. It may have even been in a pitch. Or they don’t want someone else buying the rights and making a similar movie to what they plan to make here. Disney does make bad movie choices from time to time, but I very much doubt they are in the business of funding a breakaway state.

  131. 131.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @raven: That’s very sad, which is an understatement. But I get it from his view, especially if he did not have treatment.

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    Tenar Darell

    @lamh36: There’s a black guy in the currently posted board of directors. I don’t know if it would make a difference, but maybe he has some influence? The management looks pretty vanilla, which could explain pretty easily why no one said “wait, what?”

  136. 136.

    Tehanu

    @beltane:
    My memories of plumeria are all from vacations in Hawaii. The most wonderful scent especially in the early evening. Didn’t realize they have it in Florida.

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