The goddess Isis faces the most vexing branding challenge I’ve seen since the Ayds diet candy product ran smack into the 1980s.
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The goddess Isis faces the most vexing branding challenge I’ve seen since the Ayds diet candy product ran smack into the 1980s.
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spudvol
The goddess of bad rhinoplasty.
Bobby Thomson
Oh mighty Isis Isis Isis
WereBear
And she’s one of my favorites!
Crusty Dem
@spudvol:
My first thought, too. But look at that smooth, unwrinkled, never changing, ancient face. Brought to you by Botox(TM).
mai naem mobile
There’s a dog on the super urgent list at the pound in Brooklyn named Isis. WTF? Why would you do that to a rescue dog?
FourTen
UP THE VILLA!
Mike J
Change her name to Daesh.
Felonius Monk
She is such a threat to real ‘Muricans.
John M. Burt
I have always wondered why ardent monotheists would want to use that name.
And then there’s the fact that allowing them that name is a vile insult to 95% of the Muslim world.
We should call them by the Arabic acronym, Daesh. And in keeping with the common Arabic newscaster practice of pronouncing it to sound like a word the Levantine bandits would not like to be called, we should pronounce it “douche”.
Emily68
Lucky for the Earl of Grantham, his faithful doggie, Isis, died before her name became an issue.
raven
@mai naem mobile: The dog in Dowton Abbey was Isis.
Botsplainer
I’m reminded of the time I was just entering the statuary hall of the Louvre and a family of Roma ( one in a wheelchair) rushed in and knocked me down, body falling toward a lifesize marble bust of Louis XIV. It was at the head of a line and SEVERAL would have crashed. I had enough control of the fall to come down rib first on a framework for a knee high cable.
Louis still nearly came down (wobble wobble), but reflex saved me from creating an international incident.
srv
Lone democrat pondering that Irish guy?
Forget his name
Chris
@John M. Burt:
We call it Al Qaeda, not The Base.
We call it Hezbollah, not the Party of God.
We call them Taliban, not Students.
I don’t know why we abruptly changed for this group.
scav
We’ve seriously regressed to the point where we’ve a stack space of oh, about one? “Can’t know you, I’ve already got a Dave.” Reminds me when my cousin’s kid was asking about favorite colors but wouldn’t let anyone have the same one (and was young enough not to believe in salmon, teal, saffron and that tribe). I was lucky and ended up with grey: there were none left at all for my mother.
JPL
@raven: Next thing you know, someone will name their pet Isil and then the media will spend 24 hours discussing it.
Suzanne
So that dumbass in Phoenix (redundant) had his anti-Islam rally yesterday, and nobody stopped him. And thank FSM no one got hurt, even though they all came armed to the teeth.
Culture of Truth
It depends on what the meaning of isis is
mai naem mobile
@raven: I guess I’m rhe only.person on bj who has not watched Dowton Abbey. I, however, love Call the.Midwife.
Emerald
I watch lots of international news on my Roku. Everybody else calls it Isil. Only Americans call it Isis (neither is accurate, but Isil is just a little bit more accurate than Isis: Islamic State in the Levant, according to what I’ve heard.)
Your ‘Murkin media at work again.
JPL
@Suzanne: Now he has to move because his freedom to be an asshole is taken away. Actually what he said is he fears for his safety.
Just Some Fuckhead
This is why She decreed they should be hailed as ISIL.
Culture of Truth
“rhinoplasty”
another bad choice in brand names
Germy Shoemangler
Wasn’t there a Saturday morning live action show back in the ’70s called Isis?
Here ’tis!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ZNf9j8FUs
NotMax
Can we bribe them to change their name to REAGAN?
srv
Mother Isis would never approve:
Chris
@mai naem mobile:
Foyle’s War. Where it’s at.
piratedan
maybe the re-branding should be as cosmetic as GOP policy, both private and public, I propose… Aye-Sis. Just like GOP policy, it’s still crap and as always, only serves the purposes of a select few.
NotMax
@mai naem mobile
You’re not alone. Never watched it; don’t care to.
Gave up on Upstairs, Downstairs decades ago, also too.
Keith P.
I’ve got a puzzle series called The Isis Adventure….very nice puzzles milled out of solid metal, but the name is unfortunate.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Emerald: And Sarah Palin screeched mockingly when President Obama used “ISIL” in a speech. Because if anybody knows the most about world affairs, it’s Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods.
Amir Khalid
“I married Isis on the first day of May, but I could not hold on to her very long …”
Hal
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): this is apparently a real thing in fundy land. I believe Fox news had coverage of this and the right wing was furious because Obama doesn’t want to talk about Syria or something.
MomSense
@Chris:
One of the best shows ever. I may have to watch it again.
Ok, I’m going to chip in for Belle the Boxer. Poor thing looks like she just had pups and then was unceremoniously abandoned. I cannot understand that kind of cruelty.
MomSense
@Amir Khalid:
https://vimeo.com/61341838
WereBear
@MomSense: I am constantly baffled by the people who think “getting papers” for a dog is some guarantee of quality when they also look for a bargain and get some puppy mill disaster.
It would be cheaper and better for them to look for the breed traits they want in a mix at the shelter but then I suppose they wouldn’t have bragging material.
If people spent a tenth of the effort they expend to “look good” on actually Being Good, everyone would be so much happier.
dr. luba
@Emerald: ISIS is Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. ISIL is, or so Wikipedia tells me, Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant. Both are equally accurate, but the first is more understandable to those many people who aren’t sure what exactly the Levant is.
Frankensteinbeck
Isis plays the very, very long game. When that word is used, people will still think of the goddess long after they’ve forgotten the nutcase ‘caliphate’.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
@Germy Shoemangler:
I used to LOVE that show. IIRC, it was followed by a kids’ talk show called “Kids Are People, Too.”
dr. luba
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): It’s like when Cokie Roberts went after Biden for (correctly) using the term “Bosniak.”
Dunning-Kruger, as always.
PurpleGirl
When I hear “Isis” I think of the Egyptian goddess. From Wikipedis :
In the typical form of her myth, Isis was the first daughter of Geb, god of the Earth, and Nut, goddess of the Sky, and she was born on the fourth intercalary day. She married her brother, Osiris, and she conceived Horus with him. Isis was instrumental in the resurrection of Osiris when he was murdered by Set.
The Encyclopedia Britannica has a good entry on Isis or Aset/Eset.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/295449/Isis
For images see:
https://www.google.com/search?q=isis+goddess&biw=1244&bih=618&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=qOlpVZDKL4mFsAWvnoDoCg&ved=0CDoQsAQ
What can I say, I’ve been an Ancient Egypt geek since childhood.
gogol's wife
O Isis und Osiris, schenket der Weisheit Geist dem neuen Paar!
That’s what I think of when I hear Isis
MomSense
@WereBear:
I’m afraid I didn’t even look at the breed traits. I knew I wanted a puppy for family and emotional reasons (losing three senior pets in a few months and two kids leaving youngest sibling behind) so I saw a rescue with one female runt who was unspoken for. When I met her, the foster mom picked her up and handed her to me and the tiny little thing looked so intently at me and with such intelligence that I knew instantly she was for me. Totally a love at first sight feeling.
And then a head on collision on the way home and all I could think about was how would I get back to the foster home to pick up the pup with my car totaled.
Mnemosyne (iPhone)
I was able to get out of having to fly back to Florida to help my mom find a short term rental near my brother, but I do have to help her research places on the internet. I’m going to start with a website called FlipKey, but if anyone has any other leads on furnished month-to-month rentals in Naples FL, feel free to let me know.
Woodrowfan
Bob Hitler probably had is worse
SiubhanDuinne
@scav:
Many years ago, there was a cartoon (possibly The New Yorker) of a woman in the classical section of a record store. The clerk suggests she might like Schubert’s Ninth Symphony. “No,” she says, “I already have Beethoven’s.”
PurpleGirl
@dr. luba: Maybe so but they should know what the Levant is and where it is. After all they are always screaming about how important the Middle East is and how sometime soon the End Times will be coming.
MomSense
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
Hmmm, actually I might. Not sure if it is already rented or not but I’ll check now.
Omnes Omnibus
Well, I am going to see if I can get a ride in before it rains again. I am guessing I will get wet.
p.a.
Open thread 1st World whinge: I can’t believe NBC won’t carry 2 game 7 NHL semifinals on network tv. Is it ratings week?
Amir Khalid
@MomSense:
I hope you’re okay. Will you still be getting the little girl with those intelligent eyes?
MomSense
@Amir Khalid:
I’m fine! That was six months ago and I brought her home the next day. We just came back from the farmers’ market where she got a ton of skritches and even some treats. Oh and I think she likes fiddle music since her little tail seemed to be keeping excellent time with the music.
Belafon
If you’re wondering if O’Malley has a chance:
Tripod
I always watched the CBS Saturday AM live action show. Are they rolling her out in the current DC TV-Movie empire?
Belafon
If you’re wondering if O’Malley has a chance:
Emerald
@dr. luba:
That’s actually a pretty good point. So as per usual, ‘Murkins are less educated than the rest of the world, as our intrepid media know so well.
Suzanne
@JPL: He SHOULD fear for his safety. He hangs out with crazy bastards with lots of firearms. They’re all white and ostensibly Christian, I’m sure.
On a lighter note, I found out that the dude at work who was giving me problems by throwing a temper tantrum and refusing to work on the project has, in fact, done this at least five times previously. He doesn’t want to be involved in any project unless he can run it, but then he doesn’t want to do any of the work of managing the project. He wants to design it, and then give it to the production department. Hint: THERE IS NO PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT. So hasta la bye bye, a-hole. Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
MomSense
Has anyone “seen” Violet or WaterGirl lately?
mai naem mobile
@Mnemosyne (iPhone): look at the sublet on craigslist. Don’t know how long she’s gonna be there but if there’s a Uni in Naples, you should be able to find a bargain. Also HomeAway, AirBnb and Trip Advisor has one of their own with some odd name.
mai naem mobile
@Chris: that sounds really good. I used to like All Creatures Great and Small, To Serve Them All My Days and there was a series about two girls left penniless after.their dad does and their journey to fashion designer stardom around the time of flappers. I can’t remember the name but good series.
shell
@MomSense: Hope you’re okay. Dear God!
*********
Just checked Belle’s YouCaring page and it’s almost hit the 1500 goal. Yay!
scav
Sarko’s going for a rebrand, UMP to les Républicains: always guessed he was a cheap, derivative knockoff. And, speaking of a trailing cain moment, Berlusconi showed up at the wrong rally, “asked someone for the name of the candidate, and then encouraged people to vote for him”.
shell
It was the ‘House of Elliot’. I liked it too. I think it’s available on Netflix.
Elizabelle
@shell:
@Amir Khalid:
Thread on MomSense’s Korra, the girl dog with the intelligent eyes.
The car accident was months and inches of snow ago. All survived; Korra thrived.
shell
Looking forward mightily to the new ‘Poldark’ on June 21. Was a fan of the original but thought the character, Elizabeth was always a bit of a drip.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Amir Khalid: So I cut off my hair and I rode straight away to some wild unknown country where I could not go wrong.
Warren Terra
BBC Radio 4 did a documentary on the subject of people name Isis having to deal with the notoriety of ISIS/ISIL a couple months ago.
WereBear
@MomSense: Hey, I’m a HUGE fan of pet choosing chemistry.
Glad everything worked out so well.
Germy Shoemangler
@shell: I was shocked when I learned the actress who played Elizabeth in the original had died at such a young age.
rikyrah
PUT THESE EVIL MUTHAPHUCKAS UNDER THE JAIL
……………………………..
A Choice for Recovering Addicts: Relapse or Homelessness
By KIM BARKER MAY 30, 2015
After a lifetime of abusing drugs, Horace Bush decided at age 62 that getting clean had become a matter of life or death. So Mr. Bush, a homeless man who still tucked in his T-shirts and ironed his jeans, moved to a flophouse in Brooklyn that was supposed to help people like him, cramming into a bedroom the size of a parking space with three other men.
Mr. Bush signed up for a drug-treatment program and emerged nine months later determined to stay sober. But the man who ran the house, Yury Baumblit, a longtime hustler and two-time felon, had other ideas.
Mr. Baumblit got kickbacks on the Medicaid fees paid to the outpatient treatment programs that he forced all his tenants to attend, residents and former employees said. So he gave Mr. Bush a choice: If he wanted to stay, he would have to relapse and enroll in another program. Otherwise, his bed would be given away.
“‘Do what you do’ — that’s what he told me,” Mr. Bush recalled.
Mr. Bush, rail-thin with sad eyes, wanted to avoid the streets and homeless shelters at all costs. He turned to his self-medication of choice: beer, with a chaser of heroin and crack cocaine. Then he enrolled in a new program chosen by Mr. Baumblit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/31/nyregion/three-quarter-housing-a-choice-for-recovering-addicts-or-homelessness.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1
Ruckus
@Belafon:
Saw a report on his time as mayor and the police dept “broken windows” policy and said the same thing, he’s going nowhere.
Ruckus
@Emerald:
Our intrepid media aren’t better informed than the rest of us, they are us. The Ugly American was published in 1958, and how much has changed?
Southern Beale
What’s the difference between ISIS and ISIL? I thought the L stood for “Levant.” So let’s call it ISIL and leave the goddess Isis alone.
Beeb
@Germy Shoemangler: If you mean Jill Townsend, she is very much alive. She stopped acting in the late 70s (according to her website) or mid-80s (according to Wikipedia.)
http://www.councilofgrandmothers-ojai.org/about-us/jill-townsend-sorel/
Bobby Thomson
@Belafon: O’Maley is polling at 2% among Maryland Democrats.
He’s not the liberal alternative to Clinton. He’s not even the technocratic alternative to Clinton. He’s the “Clinton just got hit by a bus” alternative to Sanders for centrist/”pragmatic” Dems.
rikyrah
this went through an entire food chain of executives and nobody said..
THIS IS A BAD PHUCKING IDEA.
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The Hunger Games: New CBS reality show exploits poor families by making them grovel for $101,000
30 MAY 2015 AT 09:59 ET
As if to prove there are new depths to be plumbed in the world of reality television (because who knew?), CBS just debuted The Briefcase, a show which takes poverty porn, class anxiety, emotional manipulation and exploitation and packages them all neatly into a pretty despicable hour of primetime television. Kicking off each episode with the question, “What would you do with $101,000?” the show then deep-dives into a competition that asks two unwitting, financially strapped families to choose between two no-win options: being financially solvent yet appearing heartless and greedy, or drowning in debt yet having audiences recognize them as selfless and giving.
It’s hard to imagine a network executive didn’t get the idea for this show from the “Button, Button” episode of the Twilight Zone. The Briefcase focuses on two “middle-class” families—a questionable but highly American take on the phrase, since both are debt saddled, with one primary breadwinner, and essentially living on the edge of financial ruin. Both are told they’ll be participating in a documentary about money. Instead, a producer from the show unexpectedly comes to their house with a suitcase full of cold, hard cash: $101,000 to be exact. That could be a life-changing – and in the case of families so near the financial cliff, nearly life-saving – sum of money. But this being reality TV, instead of just giving them the cash, there’s a major catch.
Both families are informed that somewhere out there, there’s another family “who’s also in need,” and are given a choice: “You can keep all of the money, you can keep some of the money, or you can give it all away.” Neither family knows that the other family also has a suitcase full of cash and is debating how much, if any, they’ll share. And since both families were originally told they were merely going to be the subjects of a documentary, neither of them really signed up for this exercise in televised torture.
What follows, predictably, is a gut-wrenching look at the two families being guilted this way and that over whether to choose charity or financial survival. In the first episode, the Bergins of North Carolina, a family of five—mom, Kim; dad, Drew; and three teenage daughters—are trying to make do on Kim’s salary of $15.50 an hour, since Drew’s ice cream truck business is failing. And in New Hampshire, the Bronsons—featuring dad Dave, an Iraq war vet who lost his leg in combat—are scraping by on the earnings of mom Cara, who works the night shift as a nurse and is pregnant with their second child.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/the-hunger-games-new-cbs-reality-show-exploits-poor-families-by-making-them-grovel-for-101000/
Omnes Omnibus
@Beeb: She seems to have led an interesting life.
Valdivia
@Warren Terra:
thanks for that BBC link. Really excellent. I love listening to their radio shows and radio documentaries. The BBC rocks.
SRW1
@scav:
Too bad Sarko can’t give himself a do-over. Probably his biggest obstacle on the way to an encore in the Elysee.
Chris
@scav:
With his shtick of “winning voters back from the FN” (or as they call it in America, the Southern Strategy), Sarkozy has long struck me as France’s Nixon.
So the renaming is appropriate, though I doubt if it’s inspired by America.
Germy Shoemangler
@Beeb: My mistake. I got her mixed up with Angharad Rees.
Ms. Rees was the reason I watched the original.
WereBear
@rikyrah: So once again the movie Network proves true.
I just can’t be cynical enough for the times we live in.
Southern Beale
Guess what’s growing in the petri dish of Reaganomics?
rikyrah
BWA HA HA AH HA HA HA HA
You better believe you open your mouth to apologize real quick if you slammed the door…..
OR THAT DOOR WOULD BE OFF THE HINGES FOR AN UNDETERMINED AMOUNT OF TIME.
every morning, Mama would stroll by as you come out of the bathroom, because you can’t dress in your room anymore BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO DOOR.
‘ I bet you wish you could take that slam back, don’t ya?”
and don’t even THINK about asking when the door would return.
https://twitter.com/TheRealMikeEpps/status/604689806736683008
Jim, Foolish Literalist
FoxNews speaks
Valdivia
@scav:
We tend to recycle our politicians in Latin America but I have never understood the longevity of Berlusconi.
Why would Sarko rebrand with that name? Won’t everyone simply think of the GOP?
Amir Khalid
@rikyrah:
Indeed, the consensus was apparently that taunting poor people by making them weigh their own need against their conscience would make excellent television.
SRW1
@Chris:
The weird thing is that for some time ‘Die Republikaner’ was the pendant of the FN in Germany.
Also, too: A wanna-be Napoleon re-naming his ‘movement’ into ‘les Republicains’. Probably his Hungarian ancestry showing through.
scav
@Chris: He always struck me as Bush-Lite, but that would probably have been long before his catering to the toes of LePen castoffs. The “pretending to speak for all French” is more more the thing, the appropriating of symbols belonging to the whole nation trick. Can’t think that even he thinks naming a party deliberately after our lot of politicos is going to win over anyone over there.
Amir Khalid
@Valdivia:
Well, French people would associate Les Républicains with the modern French republic, rather than the American one.
shell
@Amir Khalid: I can’t believe this isn’t some made-up parody. So when do we start making them compete in the arena?
andy
@Germy Shoemangler: Yep! It’s always the first thing that pops into my head when I hear the word ISIS.
Beeb
@Germy Shoemangler: I watched it for Robin Ellis, but to each her own. :>) Seriously, though, I thought everyone in it was good. Not sure how I feel about a remake.
Valdivia
@Amir Khalid:
Thanks for clarifying that. I wasn’t sure if the ubiquitousness of our crazy brethren would have overtaken the French association.
Omnes Omnibus
@Valdivia:
Or 1930s Spain and I really don’t think Sarko wants that.
scav
@rikyrah: They’ve all gone nuts, the Beeb has one too: BBC defends reality show involving poor, dubbed ‘Hunger Games’
I don’t think Britain’s Hardest Grafter quite makes the cross-puddle translation intact. . .
Amir Khalid
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
It doesn’t work that way, Geraldo.
SRW1
@rikyrah:
What, you don’t think watching the worms squirm makes for great entertainment?!
Btw: The BBC had a similarly great idea of making some poor suckers fight it out for scrabs.
If the Beeb is now at this stage I am trending towards the idea that maybe the meteor is overdue.
Eta: I see scav got to that BBC Story already.
Omnes Omnibus
@SRW1: I suppose “Bum Fights” is next.
Chris
@scav:
Yes, your article mentioned that a lot of people were pissed because “ALL French are republicans!” And I agree with you – that’s exactly the point. Appropriate a generic and universal symbol of the nation, then tar all those who won’t follow you as antipatriotic. Textbook right wing.
WereBear
@Omnes Omnibus: They will be as cruel and callous as we allow them to be.
Since I’m already boycotting network, I can’t threaten to do it more.
But, sadly, I’m not surprised.
Valdivia
@Omnes Omnibus:
See that would have been my prefered association. But most definitely not one that would help Sarko with his rebranding.
Costa Rica had a lot of exiled Republicanos from Spain, always much respected them, was fascinated by them.
Steeplejack
Mildly disappointed that ISIS on Archer—the International Secret Intelligence Service—got scrubbed and “disappeared” with nary a mention. I thought the show is semi-edgy enough that they could have had at least one episode addressing the “branding” issue, if nothing else.
P.S. Apparently FX had a lot of ISIS merchandise that they had to send to the landfill.
SRW1
@Amir Khalid:
And there I thougt Sarko’s ambition was to reconstitute L’Empire du Grand Corse.
Germy Shoemangler
Mystery chord solved
Hard Day’s Night opening chord, deconstructed by Randy Bachman (with help from Giles Martin)
burnspbesq
Boring, boring Arsenal.
Germy Shoemangler
@Amir Khalid: If I thought for a nano-second that Jerry Rivers (as Kurt Vonnegut, his ex-father in law called him) would come to the same conclusion if the exact same charges were brought against a democrat, I wouldn’t despise him quite as much as I do.
Which is quite a lot.
Steeplejack
@p.a.:
Blackhawks-Ducks game is on NBC at 8:00 p.m. EDT tonight.
ETA: Unless your complaint is that both of them weren’t on network TV. The one last night was on NBC Sports Network.
heckblazer
Time for the goddess to drop the Greek name and go back to her Ancient Egyptian roots with “Iset”.
Valdivia
@burnspbesq:
At 3:30 espn2 is showing the Copa del Rey between Barca and Atletico de Bilbao. I always enjoy watching Messi play (even with Suarez on the pitch. Not a fan of Suarez)
satby
Wow! I got back from the funeral and see that Belle is well on her way to heartworm treatment! Hooray! Once that’s out of the way, a spay and tumor removal will really help that sweet girl feel better!
Juicers rock.
Steeplejack
@mai naem mobile:
The House of Eliott (1991-94).
SRW1
@Valdivia:
Not a fan of Suarez either, but if you look at how far Liverpool have fallen this season without him and how much better Barca performs with him compared to the beginning of this season when he was still ineligible, Suarez seems to be a guy who can lift the game of his team mates quite significantly. Too bad something appears to have gone wrong with/for him somewhere along the way
Steeplejack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Hmm, Rivera himself has suffered allegations of sexual misconduct.
Amir Khalid
FIFA president Sepp Blatter says the US is out to get him. Vladimir Putin says the US is out to get the 2018 World Cup moved elsewhere, as a hostile move against Russia. True or not? Salon movie critic/political pundit Andrew O’Hehir can’t make up his mind. I think that as a tactical objective, neither Blatter nor the location of the World Cup matters enough for the US — for the Obama administration, anyway — to be doing that..
Steeplejack
@Germy Shoemangler:
Cool.
sharl
@rikyrah: Salon’s Elias Isquith also wrote about “The Briefcase”, per link (which I modified) in one of his tweets:
Someone who self-describes as a producer of “The Briefcase” – and the very active defense of the show in that twitter account’s timeline would seem to verify that – replied to the tweet:
Sooo… if you’re looking for new and exciting definitions of poor or poverty, Mr. Broome’s ur man, apparently!
Amir Khalid
@SRW1:
Make Suarez wear a dog muzzle to play. Problem solved.
The Thin Black Duke
@Steeplejack: Well, these creeps like Denny and Jerry do belong to the same fucked-up club, right? And they do look out for each other, too. As I said: creeps.
Valdivia
@SRW1:
I have to agree with you. It is actually kind of amazing to see El Tridente del Sur (Messi, Suarez, Neymar) on the pitch. They play at a completely different level together. But as good as Suarez is, there is something off with him. I am very curious to see him next week at the Champions League with Chiellini playing for Juventus. Will he bite him again?
@Amir Khalid: we’ll see next week how good the treatment has been. They better have that muzzle ready though….
Gin & Tonic
@Amir Khalid: I’m sure BiP would have an opinion.
guachi
@Southern Beale:
I’m sure you’ve heard the acronym Daesh, which is used by Arabic speakers.The ‘D’ is for State. The ‘A’ is for Islamic (The Arabic acronym changes the pronunciation slightly from the original ‘I’ sound to an ‘A’ so the ‘A’ is actually fairly accurate). The ‘E’ is for Iraq and it’s a fair transliteration of the sound Iraq actually begins with in Arabic. Think of saying ahhhhhh and then constricting your throat. The ‘SH’ is for Sham and that’s where the translation of the name of the organization has problems. The translation of Sham is something like Greater Syria but it’s also a nickname for Syria itself. So do you use Syria or Levant as a translation? As for me, I’d probably go with Levant to give the wider sense.
Or you can just use Daesh if you want to sound cool.
MazeDancer
@Mnemosyne (iPhone):
If you’re doing it from afar, TripAdvisor.com and AirBnB have reviews. And usually lots of pictures. They seem more up to date than VRBO.com. But perhaps in Florida there is so much more vacation action all the rental sites are more visited.
But I’ve had good luck with accuracy in Trip Advisor reviews.
Valdivia
my god, Messi is such an artist with the ball.
If anyone is interested, here is Daniel Alarcon at The New Yorker with an ode to his play.
that gol was epic.
Sorry live blogging a game no one is watching here.
Steeplejack
@Valdivia:
He just sliced through the Athletic defense like butter on that goal. Amazing.
Valdivia
@Steeplejack:
yay someone else saw that!
all by himself, that was truly one for the ages.
Loving those ESPN2 guys, they don’t even know what to say anymore about him.
ThresherK
@Steeplejack: “Are we not using phrasing any longer?”
@Valdivia: I’m watching it. Of all the soccer teams I root for, Barca is the most accomplished. And Burton Albion is the tastiest (or so I’m told by reputation).
PS Even before the edit window runs out, it’s 2-0.
Steeplejack
@Valdivia:
Loved the guy with the Scottish accent saying the defense was “bamboozled—befuddled!”
That stadium is huge! And it’s packed.
I made sure to watch this because I missed the F.A. Cup final earlier. My brother called me at the last minute to go to lunch.
I’m getting ready to go into fútbol withdrawal for the summer. Even though I’m not a rabid fan, I do like having the games on the in the background, and usually there’s at least one match a week that I really watch.
Southern Beale
I’m pumped for the Blackhawks/Ducks game tonight. Kinda rooting for the ‘Hawks only because they beat us in round 1 and if we had to get pushed out of playoff contention I want it to be by the Western Conference champion.
Steeplejack
@ThresherK:
We’re done with “phrasing.”
Germy Shoemangler
Paris Flood of 1910
Valdivia
@Steeplejack:
wow, they just walked into the Atletico net like it was their home.
That Scottish guy is my favorite, his turns of phrase are poetic.
The Copa America is beginning in a couple of weeks so maybe you won’t have to have too much withdrawal. :)
@ThresherK:
I confess that I usually root for Real Madrid, but how can you not love watching Barca play when they play like this?
Steeplejack
@Valdivia:
True, but I like the week-to-week routine of league play
Roy G.
Why ISIS? I’m guessing it’s because ‘Legion of Doom’ was already taken.
Steeplejack
Shnikeys. Just saw the recap of the F.A. Cup final. Arsenal rout. Not so sorry I missed it now.
JCJ
@Valdivia:
I saw it, too. Just clicked to this thread. I e-mailed two Messi fans as soon as that goal happened!
Valdivia
@Steeplejack:
yes, the one month cup country competition is not the same. I think Copa Libertadores is still going on in South America if you are willing to put up with things like Boca fans throwing pepper gas at the River players.
@JCJ:
:) I am still shaking my head at how amazing that was.
FourTen
@FourTen: …bugger
Botsplainer
Nearly put the dog in a bad way unintentionally. Went for a hike, it’s about 90. We were making a solid pace of about 22 miles/minute in fairly rugged terrain with a significant uphill (he’s done this exact hike with us about 3 times since March). I stopped to share some handfuls of water with him along the way, and when we were about at the two mile mark on the uphill stopped for lunch. He rejected his food, was panting hard, was unenthusiastic about his water and frantic to eat grass and plants. We realized he was having a heat reaction, poured his water bottles (we carry two big bottles for him, together with our camelback bladders) over his head and neck, and took the wimp out spur to avoid the extra 3.5 miles.
He’s fine now, but please be careful with active dogs in summer heat.
Valdivia
@Botsplainer:
glad he’s ok.
Omnes Omnibus
@Botsplainer: What summer heat? It’s 54 and drizzly here.
JCJ
@Omnes Omnibus:
Wow! It is hot over there in Madison. In Brookfield it is 47!
Valdivia
@Omnes Omnibus: Sigh. It’s 90 with 50% humidity here, I am very very jealous of your weather.
Omnes Omnibus
@Valdivia: Well, the drizzle does count as humidity.
@JCJ: When I was out cycling earlier, there was a 20mph wind out of the north east. And the drizzle. All in all, a rather miserable ride.
Botsplainer
@Valdivia:
He’s looking a little pathetic and feeling sorry for himself since we’re completely wiping his ass out of guilt, but is enthusiastic about his food and the ice in his water bowl.
Little shit really had us worried!
Steeplejack
@Botsplainer:
LOL, maybe don’t run the dog at “22 miles/minute.” That’s speedy! Glad he’s okay.
Valdivia
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well I was focusing on the 54 temperature, but still, a drizzle is always preferable to the DC stickiness that clings like a second skin. ETA: but since you were out cycling that drizzle with the wind was probably worse, I give you that!
Linnaeus
@Southern Beale:
I can never cheer for the Blackhawks, and I don’t care much for the Ducks, so I’m just going to watch for the hockey.
Botsplainer
@Steeplejack:
We were feeling kind of badass. We’d done 11 miles last Sunday without him at a 25 minute/mile pace, no problem. We know his limit is at about 6 miles, but the pace today was just too fast.
I want to do at least a half marathon next year. I’m kind of a fat ass heading toward the wrong side of middle age, but my BP is good, my musculature and endurance are good and I have none of the joint problems that afflict my friends.
JCJ
Messi again!
Steeplejack
@Valdivia:
First subjective day of summer for me, i.e., first time I got in the car and it was boiling hot. Immediately ran the windows down and blasted the A.C.
Steeplejack
And Barca makes it 3-0. It’s over.
Valdivia
@Botsplainer:
I know how that feels, poor guy. Really glad he’s ok.
And Messi does it again. This guy makes it look easy.
@Steeplejack: yep, it’s over. The Scottish guy was so funny.
@JCJ: like he walked in.
Steeplejack
Oh, now Athletic decides to play. All right, then.
Botsplainer
@Steeplejack:
Ohhh…that’s what I get for posting into the rum.
JCJ
That was a nice goal for 3 – 1.
Steeplejack
@Botsplainer:
Thanks for not making me explain it. :)
MomSense
For once I win the best weather of the day. 72 and breezy.
@Botsplainer:
Glad the little shit is ok.
Don
Or, you could just go with the ancient Egyptian spelling (Isis is the Greek spelling), which is probably something like “Aset” or “Iset.” Might be difficult to get everyone on board except the ancient Egyptian linguists, though.
sharl
@sharl: David Broome, producer of the new CBS show “The Briefcase” (see rikyrah‘s comment at #76), elaborates further on the people chosen for his show (bolding is mine):
So could it be that this new show doesn’t so much mock poor people, but rather mocks people who can’t budget worth shit? If so, not sure I’d like it much better. Genuine, real life poverty/econ researcher Matt Bruenig certainly doesn’t like the show’s concept:
SRW1
@Valdivia:
I hear the ladies also have a tournament starting soon. World Championship in Canada or something.
Valdivia
@Steeplejack: @JCJ:
they had to have a dignity gol. glad they got it!
@SRW1:
yes I had forgotten about that. hhis.
PurpleGirl
@sharl: I’m having flashbacks to Queen for a Day, wherein contests told their sob stories and the audience got to vote on who told the sobbiest sob story and got to win the new car, appliances, furniture, etc. I’m not sure, but I think, the winners had to pay income taxes on the winnings’ values.
JPL
@sharl: One family is earning $15.50 an hour which comes out to 32,000 plus.
I call bullshit unless that person is working a ton of overtime. They would have to average 70 hours a week.
opiejeanne
@PurpleGirl: I hated that show.
sharl
@PurpleGirl: I don’t plan on watching this new show, but I’m curious about whether its producer is gonna run out of the twitter-lipstick he is generously applying to his pet pig.
I’d forgotten about Queen for a Day, and I only have dim, distant memories of it. Variations of that show’s approach have been successful in the past, so who knows, maybe this thing will find an audience (the coveted Honey Boo-Boo/Duggars fan base, maybe?).
opiejeanne
My youngest just texted us that she’s engaged. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry; she’s the child with commitment issues but she’s old enough at 32 to know her own mind, as if she didn’t come out of the womb knowing her own mind. She’s been engaged twice before and “ran off to join the circus” both times. She came home in December, had had enough circuses she says. She and he met while working together on a traveling show about a year before quitting and moving to Seattle.
Sent us a photo of her ring, nice ruby and two diamond chips in an “antique” setting; the style reminds me of the 50s/60s.
fuckwit
@rikyrah: Three hots and a cot, as they say. Another “choice” to avoid homelessness is prison. Knock off a liquor store in a way that guarantees you get caught and you have a place to sleep for the night at least.
This country is monstrous.
opiejeanne
@fuckwit: Just don’t get shot by the guy who owns the store.
The Almighty Dollar is King.
PaulW
None of y’all showed up for my Local Author event in Wesley Chapel today.
(openly cries)
PaulW
@PurpleGirl:
I’d much rather take my chances on the Gong Show.
Chris
@scav:
Thread probably dead, but a longer response;
Sarkozy was both smarter and much more of a hands-on control freak, both things that remind me more of Nixon than the lazy frat boy we had in the Oval Office more recently. There were no Cheneys and Rumsfelds pulling Sarkozy’s strings, or that he was outsourcing entire government portfolios to. He was the Decider, a real one.
But yeah, the messages he’s riding into office, it’s all (in American terms) late-sixties-right-wing-backlash stuff. Look at the response to the Paris riots and his calls to “clean out the scum.” Out with the old-fashioned, overt, unreconstructed Vichyists with the Holocaust denial and Jewish bankers conspiracy theories… In with the new, mainstreamed racism hiding behind a paper thin veneer of law and order, immigration restrictions, etc.
graham
@Amir Khalid: You beat me to it….but it was the 5th day of May….what a great fucking song. That Rolling Thunder tour was something else too. SO glad there is an official release from that tour….
Aleta
@Frankensteinbeck: good to remember
low-tech cyclist
Also affected by the branding challenge:
She said “Where’ve you been?” I said “No place special.”
She said “You look different.” I said “Well, I guess.”
She said “You’ve been gone.” I said, “That’s only natural.”
She said “You gonna stay?” “If you want me to, yes.”
-Dylan, “Isis” (from the Desire album)
gian
@sharl:
Or playing to middle class insecurity