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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2016 / Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Cruel, But Irresistable

Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Cruel, But Irresistable

by Anne Laurie|  June 9, 20158:44 pm| 173 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity

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Politico, on a man with a lovely fantasy:

Unmarried Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham says that if he becomes president, he will have a “rotating first lady.”

“Well, I’ve got a sister. She could play that role if necessary,” the 59-year-old South Carolinian presidential hopeful told the Daily Mail Online in an interview published Tuesday. “I’ve got a lot of friends. We’ll have a rotating first lady,” he added…

Lindsey Graham's rotating First Lady, which he keeps in the parlor with his glass menagerie. pic.twitter.com/rQVPbQuGbK

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) June 9, 2015

Full image, for those of you who didn’t have sisters / sentimental grandmas.

Apart from dreams that won’t come true, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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173Comments

  1. 1.

    Another Holocene Human

    June 9, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    What a bizarre thing to say to the press.

    But it keeps them from talking about what a goddamn hawk he is in the Senate.

  2. 2.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    It would make for an interesting reality show.

  3. 3.

    lamh36

    June 9, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    Really Lindsey, really.

    I’m beginning to think Lindsey is trolling us or something. Either that or he really doesnt’ know about the rumours, or he is well and truly trolling us all.

  4. 4.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    The many wives of Lindsey Graham.

  5. 5.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    NBA Finals Game 3!
    We’re at 1-1, people!

  6. 6.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    And also getting bail money together for when Kay finally snaps and punches that POS Arne Duncan right in the fucking kisser.
    Obama should be afuckingshamed of himself on his education bent.
    Asshole.

  7. 7.

    eldorado

    June 9, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    the beardining 2.0

  8. 8.

    mtmofo

    June 9, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Isn’t rotating first ladies just a euphemism for a high-end Call Girl service?

  9. 9.

    beltane

    June 9, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    This could make for an interesting audition process. Maybe even groups of women or men could perform the role.

    James Buchanan, our country’s first confirmed bachelor president, had his niece do all the First Lady stuff. A rotating First Ladyship would be more exciting.

  10. 10.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    I actually kind of like the idea of rotating First Ladies. Myself, I’ve been looking for a spinner for years now.

  11. 11.

    catclub

    June 9, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    @Corner Stone: I am amazed by that 1-1. Either Warriors played badly for 40 minutes both nights, or Cleveland made Warriors play badly. I hope it was the former.

  12. 12.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    Seriously, there’s something in the water. A Facebook group of international soap makers I belong to just blew up when the administrator asked people to restrict their posts to the topic of soap and hold the “all glory be to Jeebus” talk down out of consideration for the non-Christians. The butthurt was truly epic, culminating in weepy GBCWs and a new group, specifically for “Christian” soap makers. Because oppression!
    Sometimes it’s fucking humiliating to be an American.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    @satby:

    What a soap opera!

  14. 14.

    Iowa Old Lady

    June 9, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    @satby: Wow. That sounds epic. LOL

    I’m reading SICKLES AT GETTYSBURG, written by my niece’s husband. It’s well done. He has a talent for tying historical details together to show what they add up to.

    ETA: Good one, Baud!

  15. 15.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @catclub:

    Either Warriors played badly for 40 minutes both nights, or Cleveland made Warriors play badly. I hope it was the former.

    This series could easily be 2-0 either way at this point.
    But you have to look at Game 2 and recognize that Curry shot worse than Dick Cheney the whole game, and GS had like 32% from the field and Cavs still only won by 2 points after OT!
    LeBron is gonna score 40 but who else is left to be second, third and fourth scorer for the Cavs for the next few games? Mike Miller can’t be on the floor more than 10 minutes a game, and Mozgov will get the Cavs killed when GS goes small.
    I hope they go OT a third time! It’s fucking nuts!

  16. 16.

    Schlemazel

    June 9, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    I wonder is, as the second gay President of the US, he might come out and admit he was the first openly gay President?

  17. 17.

    ? Martin

    June 9, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    @satby: First they came for the Christian soap-makers…

  18. 18.

    Laertes

    June 9, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Dude’s got a point. Without a first lady, we’d have… er. I mean, the department of…mumble…would lack direction. Uh.

    Okay, why do we need a First Lady? I mean, I get that the President’s spouse is going to have a hard time doing a regular job. Between the protection detail and the conflicts of interest, it’s got to be nearly impossible for them to do anything other than a White House policy or PR job of some kind or other.

    But unless I’m seriously misreading the situation, the job of First Spouse exists to give that spouse something to do. If there’s no such person, there’s no need to fill the post.

  19. 19.

    ? Martin

    June 9, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    BTW, the women will be those who have had abortions, and they’ll be rotating on a spit over an open fire.

  20. 20.

    raven

    June 9, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    In Mc Cabe and Mrs Miller Julie Christie smokes opium and listens to a little music box that reminds me of the ballerina. Winter Lady is the music, this is from the ending of the film but it is earlier as well.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    @? Martin:

    That’s quite a BTW.

  22. 22.

    catclub

    June 9, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    @satby: GBCWs ?

    Great Britain Celtic Wiccans? Oh, good bye cruel world

  23. 23.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    It’s amusing that the NBA stated officials missed calls down the stretch in Game 2. No shit. Green holding LeBron down on a jump ball was not in any way obvious people.

  24. 24.

    raven

    June 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    OK, let’s have a great 1st half!

  25. 25.

    Schlemazel

    June 9, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:
    A book I might have to get. I have read by my guess 205 books on the Civil War and this one sounds like it might be worth a read. Was just at Gettysburg this past summer and it was very emotional to stand where the 1st MN stood.

  26. 26.

    Linda Featheringill

    June 9, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    Ahem, Anne.

    Irresistible.

    Love and kisses,

    Grammar Nazi

  27. 27.

    lamh36

    June 9, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    So the McKinney cop resigned huh. My guess, dude had more than just this incident on his 10 year record (friend from Texas said he had a problematic traffic stop involving a possible “anal” search for a traffic stop?? But that just seems um weird, but I do trust this friend, but still) and the city was happy to unload him. Also too, not being forced means he can be rehired somewhere else (lord good luck to that community) and doesn’t lose pension and such.

    The same friend from Texas tells me that the officer has allegedly been receiving death threats, I’m expecting a Go Fund Me account any minute now.

    Ya know what I’m tired of. I’m tired of these folks claiming they are getting death threats. I honestly think it’s just a way to get sympathy and maybe a Go FundMe account going for idiots who support ’em.

    My question is always, First of all, how did they get them? who mails letters anymore. You can’t just get people’s cell numbers anymore. It’s so easy to say you are getting death threats nowadays just so you can get some go fund me. Shit I get calls on my cell from numbers I don’t know..guess what I don’t answer them. If they really want to say something they leave voice mails. Well if u making threats how many would be stupid enough to leave their voices on recording. Also too, it’s isn’t the days of prank calling. that’s been hard to do once they created *69 on landlines. Online death threats maybe? But still, I guess what I’m saying is…there should be more to it than them just saying they receive them.

  28. 28.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    I just don’t know who KFC thinks is buying their fried chicken. Do they think it’s plantation owners?

  29. 29.

    scav

    June 9, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    @lamh36: He probably found a loose bikini top in his sock drawer, then the other half in the laundry room. Totally freaked him out. They wouldn’t move when he yelled at them and they were going to jump him.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Do you find the new Colonel Sanders creepy?

  31. 31.

    Mike in NC

    June 9, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Now I’m seeing Lindsey Graham in a tutu. Thanks.

  32. 32.

    slag

    June 9, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    He’s got a whole binder full of first ladies.

  33. 33.

    Hawes

    June 9, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    And they said Al Gore should’ve gotten a beard…..

  34. 34.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    @Baud: Totes creep. Who the F are they appealing to with that nutjob?
    Their food sucks, btw.

  35. 35.

    Felonius Monk

    June 9, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    One has to wonder about Mr.(?) Graham. Is he a cross dresser? Perhaps, one day he could be Lindsey and the next day Lindsay. Wouldn’t that qualify as a rotating first lady?

  36. 36.

    Tree With Water

    June 9, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    Remember that wire and paper-mache rendering of an oversized rat that attached itself to Joe Lieberman during the 2006 campaign? The democratic party should pay someone to follow this contemptible piece of shit around with an oversized rendering of an inflatable woman..

  37. 37.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Boom!

  38. 38.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    @Baud: I didn’t realize at first it was the SNL guy, Hammond, who did the Bill Clinton impression back in the day. He’s imitating the colonel. Weird.

    In the commercial, the colonel sounds like W.

    I remember the 1970s commercials; they played up the southern fried colonel aspect. Then they switched to “KFC” and went more hip hop urban youth in their marketing.

    Now they’ve come full circle?

    I also remember when Mountain Dew first came out; the early commercials were “hillbilly” lampoons. Real “mountain dew”. And then the marketing dept seemed embarrassed by that, and moved into more X-Games, skateboard, white youth. Maybe they’ll come full circle as well, and produce moonshine commercials.

    The only thing I like about KFC is the biscuits. I’m fussy about chicken.

  39. 39.

    Lawrence

    June 9, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    So some sort of Sit ‘n Spin device?

  40. 40.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    I didn’t recognize Hammond. The character make me think they are selling fried human flesh.

  41. 41.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 9, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @lamh36: I’m beginning to think Lindsey is trolling us or something. Either that or he really doesnt’ know about the rumours, or he is well and truly trolling us all.

    He’s aware of them.

    Graham smirked when I brought this up. “Like maybe I’m having a clandestine affair with Ricky Martin,” he said. “I know it’s really gonna upset a lot of gay men – I’m sure hundreds of ’em are gonna be jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge – but I ain’t available. I ain’t gay. Sorry.”

    Larry Craig maintains he’s not gay, and I’m sure on some level believes that’s the choice he’s made.

  42. 42.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    June 9, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @satby: One of the Dishers alluded to that drama in Off Topic (where I often post selected texts from last night). She didn’t describe it, or specify that it had some Jeebofascist drama llamas. Wounds like fun./snark

    She said giving up FB soaping groups. The Dish FB group is pretty much all pets all the time, with the occasional political statement thrown in.

  43. 43.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    I remember reading a story about Colonel Sanders. After he sold off his company, one day he tried some KFC.

    Said it was terrible.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    I wonder if they rank above BJ

    Newsmax Named Among ‘Top 15 Most Popular Political Websites’

  45. 45.

    Denali

    June 9, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    Just finished The Invention of Wings, story of a young girl and her slave growing up in pre-Civil War Charleston. Kind of brought to life my slave-owning ansestors in North Carolina.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    @Tree With Water:

    Remember that wire and paper-mache rendering of an oversized rat that attached itself to Joe Lieberman during the 2006 campaign?

    Isn’t that what Carly Fiorina is trying to do to HRC?

  47. 47.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    Uh huh

    Uh huh

    ………………

    Rauner’s $250k education secretary reveals she reports only to governor

    WRITTEN BY NATASHA KORECKI POSTED: 06/09/2015, 06:05PM

    Gov. Bruce Rauner’s $250,000-a-year secretary of education, Beth Purvis, testified before an Illinois House panel on Tuesday, saying she is charged with handling education matters from “cradle to career” for children in the state of Illinois, but indicating she reports only to the governor.

    Purvis’ testimony revealed her contract does not require her to hit certain benchmarks or produce reports to the state or the Illinois General Assembly to measure progress with respect to her duties.

    “I report on a regular basis to the governor and discuss the activities that I’m doing,” Purvis said.

    The discussion came as the House Appropriations-Human Services committee called Purvis to testify about her duties with the state.

    At issue is why the governor’s $250,000 hand-picked education secretary is being paid out of a budget meant for the state’s most vulnerable rather than the governor’s own personnel budget. While Purvis is a full-time employee, she is being paid under a personal services contract and is not receiving state benefits. Purvis declined to answer when a committee member asked whether she volunteered not to take those benefits.

    The hearing was called in response to a report in the Chicago Sun-Timesthat revealed Rauner had been taking part in a practice that other governors had indulged in before him – that of “off-shoring” their own personnel onto other agency budgets to make their own appear more lean.

    The DHS had been the target of $26 million in cuts aimed at autism, epilepsy and burials for the indigent. The cuts took place just weeks after the governor’s office signed Purvis’ contract.

    While those services were restored, DHS faces additional cuts over the next year.

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/676494/rauners-250k-education-secretary-reveals-reports-governor

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 9, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    My fatalist sense still says Jeb’s the favorite for the nom, and if does lose it won’t be for lack of cash but you’d think the Smart One would be better at stuff like this

    Sam Stein ‏@ samsteinhp 1h1 hour ago
    NYT 6/8/15: Bush aides say he’ll raise $100m

    WaPo 6/9/15: Bush likely to fall short of $100m

    We lower expectations, children, lower them…

  49. 49.

    Josie

    June 9, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    @Corner Stone: I just finished telling my son I hate the new Colonel Sanders. I hate the look and the voice. I cannot imagine who thought this was a good idea. These people have no clue about how a southern gentleman would express himself.

  50. 50.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Isn’t that what Carly Fiorina is trying to do to HRC?

    Her one and only job is to give cover for all the male GOP candidates to viciously attack HRC.
    If CF said it, also with lady parts, then maybe it has to be talked about, hmmm?

  51. 51.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    June 9, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @lamh36: I did kinda like that the McKinney chief announces that officer racist roid rage’s actions were “indefensible.” And who is the chunky white guy in shorts who’s every fucking where in that video, including way too close to the excessive takedown to be technically out of range for officer racist roid rage to avoid interference? Why is no one discussing that?

  52. 52.

    lamh36

    June 9, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: My first thought on reading that…he’s got a thing for Ricky Martin. Now I love me some Ricky Martin since his Menudo days, but no way is he the “first” gay dude I think of when I think of clandestine affair.

    I mean, maybe we’re seeing inside Lindsey’s mind?

  53. 53.

    Doug R

    June 9, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    @Schlemazel: closets are for hangers

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    June 9, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I’ve been wondering who da fuq that dude was too. At one point he was right behind the young girl when she was left sitting on the ground and it appeared as if he was monitoring her compliance.

    I see that people figured out who the woman was how was fighting with a teen in that other video, but so far no one has said anything about that dude

  55. 55.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @Josie:

    I hate the look and the voice. I cannot imagine who thought this was a good idea.

    I honestly keep expecting the guy to rip off his facial hair and be Jon Stewart as he does his GWB, “Heh heh heh” routine.
    I’m still looking for a bullwhip handle somewhere in those commercials.

  56. 56.

    JPL

    June 9, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): The young man who posted the youtube was white and the officer just ignored him. I will say that a few of the police officers did the right thing.
    In a perfect world, the police officers who did the right thing would not want to protect the rotten among them.

  57. 57.

    Doug R

    June 9, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    @Baud: anytime Darrell Hammond gets work is good although he is getting kind of skeezy

  58. 58.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    I tried to tell everyone – Dallas is full of assholes.

  59. 59.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 9, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    @efgoldman: He wants to be Minister of War, Glorious War, Eternal War, Cleansing War

  60. 60.

    Elizabelle

    June 9, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    @Schlemazel: If Lindsey Graham is the first openly gay president, I will be hearing that news from Paris or wherever else I flee to ….

  61. 61.

    khead

    June 9, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I agree with this. And the stuff about the new Colonel Sanders being creepy. And KFC being full of suck.

    I also thought GS looked like a team that had been reading its press clippings* in Game 2.

    * – I guess nowadays it’s “watching ESPN highlights”. Get off my court while I practice underhand free throws.

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    June 9, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    @Corner Stone

    For whatever it may be worth, KFC has more outlets in China than in the U.S. at this point.

  63. 63.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    June 9, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    @lamh36: He *may* be the guy who’s saying on camera officer racist roid rage did everything appropriate for the out of control mob of teens, and it’s been suggested that he called 911. It’s also been suggested that his wife was the puncher of the older teen – the fight that started it all. I can’t recall where I read it but it seems his name is Toon or Dunn or something like that.

    Whoever he is, he seems to have the run of the scene, acting like he’s some kind of assistant to officer racist roid rage. I just wish someone would loudly ask who he is and why is he not told to get the fuck out of the way and let the police manage things.

  64. 64.

    jl

    June 9, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    From the interview in the link:

    ” There’s an important question nagging Lindsey Graham as tries to become the first bachelor in White House since Woodrow Wilson. ”

    I don’t see why that is an important question, especially at this stage when it is unclear whether McCain’s miniature war-pup will even get on the big stage TV debates. Looks like the newspaper asked it. Daily Mail. some Brit paper, I can’t keep track of them. Is the Daily Mail a serious paper?

    OK, so top of my agenda right now is to forget I ever saw this.

  65. 65.

    SuperHrefna

    June 9, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    @satby: That’s hilarious! In a sad, sad way, to be sure, but seriously funny for all that. Plus now you don’t have to deal with the talibangelical soapers, so you win!

  66. 66.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @jl:

    Is the Daily Mail a serious paper?

    It’s my impression that it is the UK’s version of Newsmax.

  67. 67.

    SuperHrefna

    June 9, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @jl: The Daily Mail is what the UK has instead of Fox News.

  68. 68.

    sharl

    June 9, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    @satby: I’ve been meaning to ask if you’ve had direct experience making translucent soap (or as it’s called less accurately, transparent soap). There is a lot of information already on the web, including recipes. The use of large amounts of ethanol, along with water and sugar/polyols, is the key apparently. But the production process looks very time-consuming and labor intensive.

    If you know: are there any quirks or tricks in making those soaps that don’t show up in the commonly available recipes?

    [FWIW, I have a work colleague who is interested in the underlying chemistry, though not for making soap, but rather as a possible means of providing a mechanism to enable controlled outward diffusion of materials incorporated into an insoluble polymer matrix (think “controlled-release” of materials, the kind of thing one might find in pharmaceuticals or environment-responsive coatings and other high surface_area:volume materials).]

  69. 69.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    @jl: Wilson was a widower, not a bachelor, when he was elected. That fact should make the question even less important.

  70. 70.

    NotMax

    June 9, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    @satby

    Make up some travel size soaps in the shape of crosses and undersell the cretinous whiners.

  71. 71.

    SuperHrefna

    June 9, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @Baud: It’s an incredibly bigoted, small minded right wing nut job echo chamber.

    Its international web operation is quite deceptive because it focuses on tabloidy click bait, but the actual UK news arm of the Daily Fail is a seriously scary element in British politics.

  72. 72.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 9, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I had a friend who use to refer to it as “K.Y. Fry.”

  73. 73.

    Pogonip

    June 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    @Baud: Darn you, you beat me to it!

  74. 74.

    Baud

    June 9, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    @SuperHrefna:

    I figured. The dudebros on Reddit link to it a lot, and the stories are all of the same type, if you get my drift.

  75. 75.

    kindness

    June 9, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    I can’t wait to read the comments in Wonkette on that line of Lindsey’s.

  76. 76.

    Pogonip

    June 9, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    @Schlemazel: I think Buchanan already took that slot. Certainly his contemporaries were well aware of it.

  77. 77.

    jl

    June 9, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    @lamh36: @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): From what I’ve seen and read, there were a couple of middle aged and rather ‘chunky’ (aka ‘fat’) white residents who started it, and I gathered that the cops just assumed that they were the ‘good citizens’ who should be in charge, so they were allowed to wander around, mouth off, and do as they please.

    The white kid who took the video of the girl being taken down, who had been invited to the party, noted the racism. He said that if you were white, it was ‘like you were invisible’ to the police and could do as you please. I guess he meant to include the other white police officers who at least acted sensibly, but may have revealed an unconscious bigotry in that one regard.

    If some of the kids’ stories are true, those white neighborhood middle aged racists (the ‘good people’) started it, and physically assaulted a couple of people when they did not obey orders to go back to section 8. If they stick by their stories, maybe there will be assault charges. Though maybe not, since all the police, not only Officer Rage, decided their job was to roust the blacks rather than do a responsible investigation.

  78. 78.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: I think he was especially disappointed in the gravy, I don’t remember him saying that about the chicken. I always thought the gravy was bad, even when Sanders still owned the company.

  79. 79.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    this is so true

    ……………………………….

    One Republican lying is a joke, all Republicans lying is a strategy

    by LOLGOP on JUNE 9, 2015 in AFFORDABLE CARE ACT

    We got a preview of the clusterfuganonsense that our politics will descend to if the Supreme Court decides to deny 6.5 million Americans tax credits to buy health insurance on Monday.

    After President Obama, in his role as President Obvious, said the Supreme Court shouldn’t have even taken King v. Burwell, Senator John Thune sent out a tweet that was widely mocked but geniunely reflects the GOP’s strategy to place the blame for their intentional gutting of Obamacare on Obama.

    When one Republican lies, it’s a joke. But when all Republicans get on the same page and start repeating the same lie, it can be devastatingly effective.

    Conservative commitment to calling the Stimulus “the failed Stimulus” helped brand the most successful government intervention in the economy since the New Deal as a disaster even though nearly all economists agree it reduced unemployment and theclean energy revolution sparked by the bill — along with some effective activism by Beyond Coal, as Politico‘s Mike Grunwald explains — has led to more Americans working in the solar industry than in coal. Anti-stimulus propaganda was so effective that Democrats never even mention the bill that helped set us on a path to the best job creation of the century.

    Republicans have also effectively smeared Obamacare with absurdly circular arguments and horror stories that have proven to be more stories than horror. Republicans hate Obamacare so much that they nominated the guy who invented it to destroy it? The fact that the ACA is really a conservative plan is betrayed whenever Republicans offer a replacement plan that resembles Obamacare.

    …………………….

    Republicans won’t do that, as The Washington Post‘s Greg Sargent keeps explaining. They’re planning on passing a “fix” that breaks the law and then blaming Obama for vetoing it. There’s no question this will be their path because any fix that restores the law is an admission that the law is working. That’s an admission Republicans can never make given that the 37 percent that hate the law almost all vote in Republican primaries.

    http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/06/one-republican-lying-is-a-joke-all-republicans-lying-is-a-strategy.html

  80. 80.

    raven

    June 9, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): The fat guy in the tan shirt?

  81. 81.

    NotMax

    June 9, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Quite a few of us here who can remember back to when it was both tasty and a treat.

  82. 82.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    @opiejeanne: He was certainly a fascinating character. Born in 1890, a real 20th-century success story. A showman with the costume and dyed hair.

    I’m not sure how he’d feel about seeing himself imitated like that. But I guess he knew what he was doing when he sold his company and his image.

  83. 83.

    jl

    June 9, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    @rikyrah: Wonder what they press will report when dishonest testimony from GOPers and their flunky nutcase lawyers is conveyed to the justices on the SCOTUS. Will it bother them at all, or will honestly reporting the scandal betray a lack of proper balance?

  84. 84.

    Tree With Water

    June 9, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    Chris Heston of the San Francisco Giants just threw a no-no in NYC.

  85. 85.

    JPL

    June 9, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    @efgoldman: Gosh when mine were little decades ago, I would ask them to substitute the fish for the burger. Of course, I paid for the upgrade but they wanted a happy meal without the beef.
    This was thirty years ago and the franchises that we visited accommodated our request. Now neither one frequents the chain.

  86. 86.

    Shana

    June 9, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    @beltane: I hear Mitt has binders full of women. He could borrow it.

  87. 87.

    lamh36

    June 9, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    @jl: they is a photo floating around of the woman who some have identified as the woman seen fighting with the teenager in another pic/video at the pool.

    The woman identified supposedly worked for BOA as someone who approves loans, I believe. So you had a bunch of people tweeting and emailing and calling (I assume) BOA. The heat was on BOA so bad, that they responded on twitter about it:

    @BofA_News
    We’ve concluded our investigation and the woman identified is not a Bank of America employee but works with a vendor company (1/2)

    @BofA_News
    We have asked the vendor to investigate and take action (2/2)

  88. 88.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: I haven’t seen the new ads.

    Yes, I remember reading about him taking his recipe on the road, essentially. I think his restaurant had failed/been bypassed by a highway or something, and he was just about broke.

  89. 89.

    NotMax

    June 9, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    With all the KFC talk, leave us not forget the Chicken Corsage.

  90. 90.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    June 9, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    @raven: Yup. You got a clue?

    @jl: The other 2 officers seemed to be interviewing teens to investigate, but it all went to hell when officer racist roid rage went off. They had to deal with that and try to settle him down before he shot somebody, Sadly they didn’t get him calmed down enough.

    @lamh36: There’s another woman who may be fat guy’s wife. I wish I could remember where I saw all that. Probably rawstory.

  91. 91.

    JPL

    June 9, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    @efgoldman: That’s the consensus now but back then it was a decent substitute. Next time try Long John Silver’s. Just as bad but with more swagger.

  92. 92.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @Shana: FTW

  93. 93.

    Shana

    June 9, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @Baud: The new Colonel is Darrell Hammond.

  94. 94.

    JPL

    June 9, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): The video showed four officers and three acted appropriately. I do think if the other officers threw this guy under the bus, so to speak, it would help.
    They can’t continue to protect bad cops.

  95. 95.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    @lamh36: Wow. Getting BofA to do something like that is amazing. Their service and systems here in Washington were so bad that we finally, after having an account with them for over 60 years, closed everything down and moved all of our banking to a credit union. Not all CUs are created equal but this is one of the very good ones, and it’s such a relief to not have to chase after fees repeatedly deducted from our account “by mistake” just because BofA renamed the type of account we had with them. Idiots.

  96. 96.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    @JPL: I remember decades ago bringing our kids for their happy meals. There was a little play area with bouncy balls and a slide.

    I wish I still had some of the toys. Back in ’89 there was a Batman tie-in and the happy meal toy was a beautiful little batmobile.

    Wonder if it’d be worth any money today? It’s long gone.

  97. 97.

    Valdivia (The Terrible)

    June 9, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    @Shana: where can I send you the internets?

  98. 98.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    @efgoldman: It’s a brotherhood. They’ve got each other’s backs.
    They don’t police each other.

    Look how NY cops treated their mayor during a funeral. Imagine what they’d do to a “co-worker”

  99. 99.

    Shana

    June 9, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Thank you. That’s my first. Night now.

  100. 100.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    Man, LeBron can’t make shit nor shinola this quarter.

  101. 101.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    @Shana: Perfect, you knew to drop the mic.

  102. 102.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 9, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: Wonder if it’d be worth any money today?

    No.

  103. 103.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Then I don’t feel bad.

    Although I did have a batmobile I bought back in 1966. It shot little yellow missiles. It was well-made, metal with rubber tires. I misplaced it years ago.

  104. 104.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    @sharl: I haven’t ever tried, it’s complicated enough and I don’t care for translucent soap enough to bother, so I would rely on the same internet recipes. Sorry :(

  105. 105.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    go read the letter from someone helped by Obamacare. it will bring tears to your eyes.

    I wish one of the FPagers would post it.

    https://twitter.com/Holst44/status/608313075838664704/photo/1

    My favorite sentence in the letter:

    We the people at the bottom of the ladder love you for the hand up

  106. 106.

    Ryan

    June 9, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    I’m sorry, but is there something wrong with not having a first lady? We won’t if Hillary gets elected. Or does the whole being single thing touch some nerve?

  107. 107.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    @rikyrah: Thank you for that link.

  108. 108.

    sharl

    June 9, 2015 at 10:29 pm

    @satby: Thanks! I figured it wouldn’t hurt to ask, and you certainly confirmed that it is as labor and time-intensive as online sources indicate.

    BTW, your Skinluvvers site has a lovely selection of soaps, just like others here have said.

  109. 109.

    Little Boots

    June 9, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    oh good god, girl, just, it’s not that big a deal anymore, just come out already.

  110. 110.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:34 pm

    “He’s feeling himself” ?
    That does not seem appropriate during a finals game.

  111. 111.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    @Ryan: Couldn’t give one damn less about religion or marriage status.
    He’s done because he wants to re-engage on troop conflict in MENA.

  112. 112.

    Little Boots

    June 9, 2015 at 10:38 pm

    @Ryan:

    yes, being single. that’s the nerve. that’s the thing being touched here. there can be no other.

  113. 113.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    Mmmm, In N Out Burger…

  114. 114.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    BANG!

  115. 115.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:42 pm

    BANG-O!

  116. 116.

    SRW1

    June 9, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    I have a hard time deciding whether the rotating thing is progress over the binder full thing. It smells too much as if its the same kind of derp.

  117. 117.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    @Little Boots: It’s not a big thing for anyone except the troglodytes and ogres he needs to get to vote for him in the GOP primary.

  118. 118.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    B@NG!

  119. 119.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    @Corner Stone: Righteous link, bro.

  120. 120.

    Little Boots

    June 9, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    which they won’t anyway, cause they get it too. and he’s just being ridiculous. trying to be the warmonger to end all warmongers. it just … oh, hell, lindsey, just come out already nobody frigging cares at this damn point.

  121. 121.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    @Baud: there was 139 (still climbing) comments on that and not one person thought of using that.
    Neither did I, dammit.
    You have the gift.

  122. 122.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Damn FYWP won’t let me post BANG over and over.
    Dammit.

  123. 123.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 10:52 pm

    @Corner Stone: We all have our crosses to bear.

  124. 124.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: This series is fucking nuts. I guess it’s just me on a lonely Tuesday night.

  125. 125.

    opiejeanne

    June 9, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    @Corner Stone: don’t start. We don’t have them here and are overdue for a road trip to SoCal.

  126. 126.

    JCJ

    June 9, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Good evening. I think I remember you having stated that you are a fan of Garbage, and I assume that is required of all residents of Madison. They will be playing at the Orpheum on October 18.

    http://www.etix.com/ticket/p/6813187/garbage-madison-orpheum-theater-madison?c=EML_LN_661576&camefrom=EMLN_661576

  127. 127.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    Waive it off, Steph Curry. Waive it off.

  128. 128.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    When all is dark within the house,

    Who knows the monster from the mouse?

  129. 129.

    Little Boots

    June 9, 2015 at 10:57 pm

    @JCJ:

    it is, and he should post.

  130. 130.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    @opiejeanne:

    We don’t have them here and are overdue for a road trip to SoCal.

    For years it was one of the first things I did when I arrived in Vegas. We all piled into the taxi from the hotel and went to In N Out and gorged ourselves.

  131. 131.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Oh my lord the drama. And that doesn’t even touch on the animal fat / vegetable fats donnybrooks that make the Apple/PC wars look like lovefests.
    I just wonder why so many Christalibans believe in a god so picyune as to need public praise after a successful soap cupcake gets finished.
    Oh, yeah, don’t even start me on the ones who make imitation food out of soap. With glitter.

  132. 132.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    @JCJ: Cool. Thanks. When in town, they’ve been known to hang out in the Corral Room bar under the Tornado Steakhouse.

  133. 133.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    McDonald’s, which has seen flagging sales and increased competition from healthier “fast-casual” restaurants, has hired Robert Gibbs, the former White House press secretary, to be its top spokesman.

  134. 134.

    hamletta

    June 9, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    I used to think being Lindsay Graham’s beard would be a good gig. I could live in a nice house in Charleston and host an annual Douglas Sirk film festival.

    It would be fabulous!

    Also: Woodrow Wilson’s wife basically stepped in for him after he had a stroke. They’d prop him up for press photos.

  135. 135.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 11:02 pm

    @Corner Stone: We don’t have that particular chain in our neck of the woods. Curious name… were they inspired by Clockwork Orange?

  136. 136.

    Little Boots

    June 9, 2015 at 11:02 pm

    fine, garbage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRGnueg8Lo

  137. 137.

    PhilbertDesanex

    June 9, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    First Lady as a job sounds like a fine idea, and for married Presidents going forward, make some new title for it I guess. It’s a job and a big one. Why should the wife be so required to have such a demanding and all-encompassing job?

  138. 138.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    @SuperHrefna: now I feel like I have to stay to support the poor group admin (who is Australian) when I was about to ditch them all. I mentioned the soap cupcakes, right?
    Reams of post about getting the soap frosting piped JUST RIGHT.

    We’re talking nail gun to the temple worthy.

  139. 139.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 11:07 pm

    @Little Boots: You will believe in me. And I will never be ignored.

  140. 140.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 11:10 pm

    @sharl: thank you!

  141. 141.

    Little Boots

    June 9, 2015 at 11:10 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    you, by all accounts, are not the problem here.

    except sometimes.

  142. 142.

    JCJ

    June 9, 2015 at 11:10 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Is it even remotely possible to ignore you?

  143. 143.

    JCJ

    June 9, 2015 at 11:11 pm

    Heckuva fourth quarter so far by Golden State

  144. 144.

    Valdivia (The Terrible)

    June 9, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    @satby: Sorry to ask, what is a soap cupcake?

  145. 145.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 9, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    Mad Fright NIght

  146. 146.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 11:14 pm

    @Valdivia (The Terrible): I am guessing it is a cruel joke.

  147. 147.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 11:14 pm

    @Valdivia (The Terrible): When they make soap into cupcake shapes.

  148. 148.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: if you try to use one to wash with especially. You know how scratchy glitter is?

  149. 149.

    Valdivia

    June 9, 2015 at 11:18 pm

    @satby: Ahhh. But not for using, so for decoration?

    @Omnes Omnibus: if you end up washing with scratchy glitter I am sure it is!

  150. 150.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 11:20 pm

    Throws it down!

  151. 151.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    @Valdivia: I think so. It takes a certain talent for sure, but kinda loses the plot, you know?
    End of the day (and frequently during it :), soap is to wash with. I’m old fashioned like that.

  152. 152.

    Valdivia

    June 9, 2015 at 11:24 pm

    @satby: :D
    yes me too.
    I know they make candles in all sorts of shapes too, but at least those you can use for their intended purpose!

  153. 153.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    @satby: What does one do with such a soap?

    ETA: I don’t really grok decorative soap.

  154. 154.

    Valdivia

    June 9, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: hard to grok that I think. Though obviously some people do if there’s a market for it.

  155. 155.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 11:44 pm

    This game is fucking nuts.

  156. 156.

    Corner Stone

    June 9, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    CAVS!

  157. 157.

    satby

    June 9, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It is to sit and apparently never be used in someone’s guest powder room, at least until the color scheme is changed. I have no idea myself.

    I go for the “10 test soaps in every soap dish” look myself. People visiting me get choices!

  158. 158.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 10, 2015 at 12:06 am

    @satby: I have a bar of soap in a soap dish next to the sink. But then I am single guy who is not in the soap business.

  159. 159.

    Brachiator

    June 10, 2015 at 12:08 am

    @PhilbertDesanex: A presidential wife isn’t required to do anything. There has always been a ceremonial and social side of Washington, and the first lady served as a hostess for many of these functions. When Jefferson, a widower, was prez, Dolley Madison served as his hostess. Some wives hate the job. I suppose that you could easily hire someone to do the job, though I bet you that the wives of some foreign dignitaries would see this as a snub. Obviously though, the prospect of a woman president will bring changes.

  160. 160.

    NotMax

    June 10, 2015 at 12:18 am

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Place it precisely in counterpoint to the fancy little guest towels, which no one living there is allowed to use and guests are timorous about using.

  161. 161.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 10, 2015 at 12:20 am

    @NotMax: I don’t really grok those either.

  162. 162.

    NotMax

    June 10, 2015 at 12:20 am

    @Omnes Omnibus

    A soap dish?

    First step on the road to degradation.

  163. 163.

    NotMax

    June 10, 2015 at 12:22 am

    @Omnes Omnibus

    I never have either. And as they are untouched, they end up being one more blasted thing to dust.

    For those who dust. :)

  164. 164.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 10, 2015 at 12:24 am

    @NotMax: In my defense, i got while I was married. Before that, the soap sat in the little depression thing on the rim of the sink.

  165. 165.

    Smiling Mortician

    June 10, 2015 at 12:33 am

    I’m probably not the first to note this, but I’ve had a long, long, long day at work and I can’t be arsed to read all 170 comments before saying Lindsey Graham is only 59 years old? I am seriously surprised.

  166. 166.

    joel hanes

    June 10, 2015 at 12:48 am

    @? Martin:

    First they came for the Christian soap-makers…

    Then they came for the Essene soap-makers,
    but I was not Dr. Emmanuel Bronner,
    nor was my label covered with syncretic exhortations in a minute typeface.

  167. 167.

    karen marie

    June 10, 2015 at 12:54 am

    @JPL: “Acted appropriately”? By corralling all the black males, leaving the white males to wander unmolested, while telling the black females to go home?

  168. 168.

    joel hanes

    June 10, 2015 at 12:56 am

    @sharl:

    Have you soapmakers read Gain, by Powers ?

    Splendid, and full of historical and technical detail.

  169. 169.

    joel hanes

    June 10, 2015 at 1:05 am

    @satby:

    a god so picyune as to need public praise

    Jesus had some very unflattering things to say about such people.
    The term of art is “whited sepulchre”

  170. 170.

    satby

    June 10, 2015 at 7:52 am

    @joel hanes: @joel hanes: @joel hanes: Good morning and thank you! A LOL and book rec is a great way to start the day.

  171. 171.

    evodevo

    June 10, 2015 at 8:25 am

    @Germy Shoemangler: The guy who bought out Col. Sanders doesn’t like the new commercial, either, so there’s that …..http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2015/05/27/colonel-sanders-fans-find-new-ads-distasteful/28037491/

  172. 172.

    joel hanes

    June 10, 2015 at 11:24 am

    @satby:

    You’re most welcome.

    ALL ONE!
    Dilute! Dilute!

  173. 173.

    FortGeek

    June 11, 2015 at 4:12 am

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): The 911 caller’s name is Sean Toon…and his wife was one of the two women fighting/yelling at some of the kids as seen in the pre-police-call video. This came up in a Little Green Footballs thread Tuesday.

    Toon himself has quite the criminal background. He and three other guys got busted for beating some animals (including a flock of turkeys) and spray painting them.

    Should note that Toon is a different guy from the big polo-shirt guy who was “assisting” the psycho cop. I think I heard on Maddow that he’s with the pool management, but don’t quote me on that.

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