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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Open Thread: Nine… Beeelyun… Dollars!!!

Open Thread: Nine… Beeelyun… Dollars!!!

by Anne Laurie|  June 15, 20159:07 pm| 174 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Election 2016, Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Assholes

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At least Trump is upfront about what's important in politics right now. pic.twitter.com/Y1XhNURzSN

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) June 15, 2015

And the managers at all the very exclusive, high-class restaurants and golf clubs that Trump graces with his world-famous presence pin a note behind the dais: Always run card before seating.

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What’s on the agenda besides the latest GOP irruption of grift and incompetence?

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    June 15, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Apparently nothing.

  2. 2.

    redshirt

    June 15, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    I troll Donald on the reg and it’s sad how often it’s effective.

  3. 3.

    srv

    June 15, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    Both Delaware and Pennsylvania have won approval from the federal government to pursue back-up plans to save their ObamaCare subsidies if the healthcare law loses in court this month.

    The two states have been “conditionally approved” to set up their own healthcare marketplaces, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) announced late Monday.

  4. 4.

    Betty Cracker

    June 15, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    To paraphrase a commenter in the Jeb! thread, Trump’s announcement will be YOOOOGE and classy!

  5. 5.

    Elizabelle

    June 15, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    Bless you, Anne Laurie. For a fresh thread. Even it’s illustrated with Donald Trump.

  6. 6.

    BGinCHI

    June 15, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Trump’s smile says “I’m a bigger dick than I am a fraud,” but his eyes say “Why doesn’t anybody like me?”

    Saddest. Clown. Ever.

  7. 7.

    NotMax

    June 15, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    $9 billion, my Aunt Fanny.

  8. 8.

    BGinCHI

    June 15, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Win/win tonight: we lose, it’s game 7 (I LOVE game 7s), we win it’s all over. Except for the rain. Apparently that never ends.

  9. 9.

    Elizabelle

    June 15, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    PBS in DC (Howard U’s station) running American Experience on Orson Welles’ War of the Worlds.

    Setting the stage for the economic devastation, that Americans kept their radios, despite what else they might have given up. And that they’d witnessed — on the radio — the destruction of the Hindenburg, Hitler’s rise… now Peter Bogdanovich is talking. Why, I do not know.

    Welles was 23 years old. Enfant terrible.

  10. 10.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 15, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    So, what, $9B in assets and $10B in liabilities?

    If Dad hadn’t grub-staked him he’d be selling cars somewhere out on Northern Blvd.

  11. 11.

    Elizabelle

    June 15, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    If Orson Welles was around today, he’d have a meaty role in LOTR, or in Game of Thrones. Or in both. ETA: Might have been in “Wolf Hall” too.

    And he’d be laughing at Jeb! and the Klown Kar too.

  12. 12.

    Iowa Old Lady

    June 15, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    Do you think Trump knows he’s ridiculous?

  13. 13.

    mellowjohn

    June 15, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:
    “The world is made for those not cursed with self-awareness.” –Annie Savoy in Bull Durham

  14. 14.

    David Koch

    June 15, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    Oh shit. OBama really stepped in it this time.

    He compared himself to Washington, Lincoln, and Roosevelt and the fucking media is going nutz

    I know his heart is in the right place, but I wish he wouldn’t do this.

  15. 15.

    NotMax

    June 15, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @Elizabelle

    Would have brought gravitas, depth and nuance to the role of Jabba the Hutt, too.

  16. 16.

    Shana

    June 15, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    @BGinCHI: At least it held off for younger daughter’s graduation from the University of Chicago on Saturday. Although it was a long day and I got a little sunburned.

    Had a lovely celebratory dinner Saturday night with friends and relatives. Wonderful to see folks I don’t get many chances to see lately.

    I’m surfing tonight while hubby shifts back and forth between Rachel, hockey and baseball (go Nats!). I did a ton of laundry today, went to the grocery, stroked the cat now that she’s back from boarding.

    Next weekend: Toronto for a family bat mitzvah. Lot’s of traveling this month, but all for good things.

  17. 17.

    jl

    June 15, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: Trump dunn’t have time for low class clowns and big jerks who’d say insutlin’ tings like dat. Listen to me, you;ll learn someting. ‘Really classy’ is never ridiculous. Remember that. You’ll go far, believe me.

  18. 18.

    Betty Cracker

    June 15, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    @BGinCHI: Let’s go Bolts! Whatever happens, though, it’s been an exciting series.

  19. 19.

    mai naem mobile

    June 15, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    Everytime I see the Donald yapping about his wealth, I think of Mark Cubans story of being at a party at Trumps Fla mansion. Cuban was dressed casually and Trump thought he was the mansion staff and told him that Cuban too could get rich if he worked hard. Cuban was already way wealthier than Trump.

  20. 20.

    Shana

    June 15, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Of course you should root for the home team Betty, but don’t you think it’s a little weird to have a hockey team in Florida?

  21. 21.

    Betty Cracker

    June 15, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @Shana: At first it did. Seems normal now after so many years.

  22. 22.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 15, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    Like I’d believe anything The Donald has to say about his own worth, financial, moral or otherwise. This is the guy who declares bankruptcy routinely as a “business” strategy. This is the guy who managed to bankrupt a friggin’ ca$ino, for the love of Bugsy Siegel.

  23. 23.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 15, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: That’s if he’s lucky, mind. More like night manager at a Burger King.

  24. 24.

    Shakezula

    June 15, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    I should be used to it by now, but the press slobbering over this toupeed moron because he MIGHT run for president is pissing me off.

  25. 25.

    Germy Shoemangler

    June 15, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    I fondly remember “Spy” magazine. They famously called Trump a “short-fingered vulgarian” and a few other humorous things.

    Jack Ma, the guy who started “Ali Baba” in China, is worth something like 27 billion. He could buy and sell Trump with a single phone call. Maybe the GOP should recruit him if it’s just a question of who has the most money.

  26. 26.

    Eric S.

    June 15, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    Gooooaaalllll

    (I know, wrong thread but I was here.)

    I mute my TV and I can hear the Clark St bars about 3 blocks away.

  27. 27.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 15, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    Yessss! Go ‘Hawks!!

  28. 28.

    Schlemazel

    June 15, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    @Elizabelle:
    Bogdanovich was talking for the exact same reason he always talks – to let you know how great Bogdanovich is.

    The worst though was a Civil War series on one of the cable channels (TLC, History, I don’t remember) they had a couple of actors and several generals commenting but the WORST was they had that slimeball Ben Stein. WHY? He is a degreed economist and a political hack with no expertise in 1860 America. I finally had to turn it off to make him shut up.

  29. 29.

    Elizabelle

    June 15, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    @David Koch: PBO’s at a Nats game?

    Will they ever let Teddy win?

  30. 30.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 15, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    Very very sad about Stan Mikita, though.

  31. 31.

    Eric S.

    June 15, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    @Elizabelle: Maybe I’m wrong but I thought Teddy got a win last season.

  32. 32.

    Jay C

    June 15, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    @mai naem mobile:

    Great story: We watch Shark Tank a lot, which means we get to see a whole fucking lot too much of Mark Cuban – but all things considered, even a whole fucking lot too much of Mark Cuban is still an exponential improvement over even two minutes of Donald Trump.

    The screencap of the WaPo page at the top of the post cut off, and all it says is “Donald Trump will declare $ 9 bill…” , and the only thing I could think of was that the whole banner would say “Donald Trump will declare $9 bill legal tender in his casinos”. Which would be bout on par with his political aims, in any case…

  33. 33.

    KG

    June 15, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    wait, he’s going to claim a net worth of $9 billion? Last year (as in eight months ago), his estimated net worth was less than half that amount. This should be interesting…

  34. 34.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    or maybe we just should. elect the one percent. admit we’re an aristocracy.

  35. 35.

    John Revolta

    June 15, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    @Elizabelle: Bogdanovich is Orson Welles groupie #1. He was, for a while, Oscar Levant to Welles’ Gershwin.

  36. 36.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 10:25 pm

    or plutocracy.

  37. 37.

    RaflW

    June 15, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    He has (or claims) $9Bn in assets. But what are the liabilities? What’s the all-important net worth? I started hearing years ago that he’s mortgaged to the hilt – which is classic American “wealth.” But he’s no net billionaire, I’m sure.

    Edit: Or, as @Gin & Tonic put it.

  38. 38.

    joel hanes

    June 15, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    @David Koch:

    [Obama] compared himself to Washington, Lincoln, and Roosevelt

    Whoa!

    That’s gonna drive down the probability of his re-election very close to zero.

  39. 39.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    and I think I love the name elizabelle.

  40. 40.

    tomtofa

    June 15, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    I’ve seen his ties remaindered at Ross and Marshalls. Someone with 9 billion would offer better ties.

  41. 41.

    Brachiator

    June 15, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    I want to see Trump’s tax returns and, just for fun, his long form birth certificate.

  42. 42.

    Redshift

    June 15, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    @Eric S.: If I remember correctly, they let Teddy win at the start of the playoffs, and the team immediately tanked.

    Best not to mess with the natural order…

  43. 43.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    @Brachiator:

    you just want to see the orangutan trying to fill it out.

  44. 44.

    Redshift

    June 15, 2015 at 10:38 pm

    @efgoldman: Not so much, actually. I read up on his bankruptcies the other day, and most of them end up with his creditors owning large chunks of his assets. These were not the “walk away scot free” type of bankruptcies.

  45. 45.

    WaterGirl

    June 15, 2015 at 10:42 pm

    @efgoldman: If you jinx this, I will have to hunt you down.

  46. 46.

    Brachiator

    June 15, 2015 at 10:43 pm

    @Little Boots:

    you just want to see the orangutan trying to fill it out.

    Well, yes.

  47. 47.

    srv

    June 15, 2015 at 10:43 pm

    Andressson-Horowitz-Salesforce CEO Benhioff techie bus service with bar and disabled ADA ramps destroyed by regulators.

    Is it any wonder Donald sometimes has to exaggerate.

  48. 48.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 15, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Yay yay yay yay yay

  49. 49.

    Southern Beale

    June 15, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    Only $9 billion?? Clearly the Obama economy has just been BRUTAL on him. Such a travesty.

  50. 50.

    KG

    June 15, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    @efgoldman: it’s typically his businesses that file for bankruptcy, not Trump as an individual. because of the legal fiction that corporations are separate entities from their owners and from other corporations owned by the owner (which is actually am important legal point that has been taken way too far by the conservatives on the Supreme Court), Trump himself has likely never been insolvent. Of course, it also suggests that he is not a very good businessman and that we should question his judgment – not because he had a business that failed and needed bankruptcy protections, but because it happened 4 times.

  51. 51.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 10:52 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Trump’s announcement will be YOOOOGE and classy!

    Perfect.

  52. 52.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 15, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  53. 53.

    KG

    June 15, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    @efgoldman: the scary part is the four bankruptcies involved hotels and resorts that also had an area where they took bets… HTF do you screw up one of those businesses? Apparently, by over leveraging them.

  54. 54.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 10:56 pm

    Please, please, please jump in with both feet donald, and also demand time on fox news. just, do it.

  55. 55.

    srv

    June 15, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    You know the best part? Rather than have one President McCain on all the Sunday talk shows, we’ll have dozens of choices soon.

  56. 56.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    I’ll say this. this place can be a snakepit, but it’s freakin awake. that’s sometimes all that matters.

  57. 57.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    @David Koch: That was fucking disturbing.

  58. 58.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:02 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: Short-fingered vulgarian was so perfect. I had a subscription to Spy while it lasted.

  59. 59.

    dww44

    June 15, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    @NotMax: Exactly. Back in 2012 or whenever it was that Trump last pretended that he was a serious candidate for President, Lawrence O’Donnell had a running gig over the entire election season that Trump would never declare his candidacy. Primarily because the Donald really needed that income from his CNBC network show since he really really didn’t have any liquid assets. I.e. he had long since ceased being a wealthy man. Just pretended to be one.

  60. 60.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 15, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Apologies. In my excitement over THE BLACKHAWKS, I accidentally commented on the wrong thread.

  61. 61.

    Jay C

    June 15, 2015 at 11:07 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Only four?
    Why on earth would any sentient entity(*) lend him money?

    Donald Trump and his jerry-built “empire” are a perfect example of the old adage:

    “You owe the bank twenty thousand dollars and can’t pay: it’s YOUR problem: you owe the bank twenty million dollars and can’t pay? It’s THE BANK’S problem!”

  62. 62.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:07 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: No apologies necessary. Many of us get it.

  63. 63.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    you are so generous, occasionally.

  64. 64.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:11 pm

    @Little Boots: I like her. And I am gloriously happy tonight – if very tired.

  65. 65.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    well … good.

    I’m glad you are happy.

  66. 66.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    are you gloriously happy?

    well, then, well, damn, I’m happy for you. are you in love?

  67. 67.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    @Little Boots: This is how much of a good mood I am in. I give you your music without you you begging. My last few days have been wonderful.

  68. 68.

    Mike in NC

    June 15, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Trump’s fingers aren’t his only short assets.

  69. 69.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    @Little Boots: I am just gloriously happy,

  70. 70.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:25 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    well good. this is actually wonderful. you are, I don’t know, you’re still an annoying pain in the ass, but I am really happy for you.

    thought there was somebody else, but any way, happy for you, honey.

  71. 71.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:28 pm

    and for omnes, for no reason:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aZJBLAu1E

  72. 72.

    NotMax

    June 15, 2015 at 11:28 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne

    There goes the excuse for dragging this out, then.

    :)

  73. 73.

    cthulhu

    June 15, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    I have read that many properties labeled as “Trump” are really in name only; it is often simply a branding thing. For example, there was a troubled Trump condo tower at the north end of the Las Vegas Strip that basically went through a bankruptcy after the 2008 crash and it was clear in the filings that Trump had no investment in the property despite having his name in giant gold letters at the top. I think the same article suggested that uncovering Trump’s true net worth was unusually difficult and well-guarded. Thus it neither surprises me that he’s talking asset worth and not net worth with the $9B claim. Further, I would not surprise me if some of that asset value is a very hinky valuation of the “Trump name.”

  74. 74.

    Felonius Monk

    June 15, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    If Donald Trump is so f*ckng wealthy, why does his hair look so f*ckng ridiculous?

  75. 75.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    @Little Boots: Hey, the ‘Hawks win is cool. The rest is just stuff that makes me happy, but not stuff I will share here. N’est ce pas?

  76. 76.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    fine, really? No music? what are the hawks?

  77. 77.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    omnes, you seriously won’t post music? you know how I get.

  78. 78.

    opiejeanne

    June 15, 2015 at 11:37 pm

    @Little Boots: I love that.

  79. 79.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    @opiejeanne:

    appreciation at last.

    thank you.

  80. 80.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:40 pm

    @Little Boots: Hey, you must chill. I don’t want anyone to harsh my happy. Here.

  81. 81.

    Suzanne

    June 15, 2015 at 11:41 pm

    With $9B, you would think the dude could afford better hair. John Edwards’ $400 haircut looks like a bargain now.

    So this is not made up: today, I called my OBGYN’s office to book my annual. I could wait a few weeks to get my regular doc, but if I didn’t want to wait, I could see the new doctor. Who is named, no lie, Dr. Seaman.

    And yes, I laughed right then and there at the nurse because BWAHAHAHAAAHAAAAAA.

    Late, I was laughing about this with a colleague, who said that, coincidentally, a similar thing happened to her recently: her OBGYN left the practice, and she got a letter in the mail stating that she could now see their new doctor, Dr. Beaver.

    There is the soul of an twelve-year-old boy inside this thirty-five-year-old woman.

  82. 82.

    ruemara

    June 15, 2015 at 11:41 pm

    Working on pitch books for SDCC. Wondering if I’m wasting my time and energy on this. I can’t get any feedback on whether things are as they should be and it’s such a fricking crap shoot anyway. It’s hard not to demand the people I asked for feedback from just give me a few fucking minutes to read 4 pages and say if it looks credible or not. Of course, as it drags on, it makes me feel less like doing it.

    I need a tshirt that says “I have no idea what I’m doing”.

  83. 83.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    why I love this annoying bastard.

  84. 84.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:44 pm

    omnes, who are you in love with? can I ask that? is that a thing I shouldn’t ask?

  85. 85.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:45 pm

    I thought there was someone, but now, not so much.

  86. 86.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:48 pm

    @Little Boots: If I am, it is none of your business. Oui? No offense intended.

  87. 87.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:48 pm

    I don’t want to harsh your happy.

    hope you are okay, always.

    love you, but mostly love steeplejack, who is the best, by the way.

  88. 88.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    okay.

  89. 89.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    @Little Boots: You slut.

  90. 90.

    PurpleGirl

    June 15, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    To paraphrase a commenter in the Jeb! thread, Trump’s announcement will be YOOOOGE and classy!

    We’re talking about the fat-fingered vulgarian here… it will be yooooge but not classy!

  91. 91.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    you know I love you. you know I am kind of a pain in the ass. it’s a thing.

    miss you.

  92. 92.

    Eric S.

    June 15, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    @Suzanne: I broke my arm when I was about 10 years old. The break was very close to the elbow and the hospital sent me to a specialists office. Two of the three doctors in the practice were named Mash and Paine.

  93. 93.

    Suzanne

    June 15, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: DT you have a thing with a young piece of grad student ass or something?

  94. 94.

    Suzanne

    June 15, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    @Suzanne: That was “Didn’t you have a piece of grad student ass?”. FYWP. FY like a bitch.

  95. 95.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    I’m gonna play music now:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU615FaODCg

  96. 96.

    Suzanne

    June 15, 2015 at 11:55 pm

    @Eric S.: That shit never gets old. It’s even funnier when it’s the twat or the dick or the ass doctor.

    I still have never figured out what makes otherwise sane people say, “I’d like to look at asses, day in and day out.”

  97. 97.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:55 pm

    still love omnes, dammit.

  98. 98.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2015 at 11:56 pm

    @Suzanne: No. It is something new and something great. Let’s leave it at that. And it makes me really happy.

  99. 99.

    Little Boots

    June 15, 2015 at 11:58 pm

    omnes you are never happy.

    are you actually happy?

    well, damn, okay then.

  100. 100.

    Suzanne

    June 15, 2015 at 11:59 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yaaaaay, that makes me happy for you. Don’t let her read this blog. Ever.

  101. 101.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:01 am

    can we ask who?

  102. 102.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 16, 2015 at 12:01 am

    @Suzanne: Great advice.

  103. 103.

    danielx

    June 16, 2015 at 12:01 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    This is the guy who managed to bankrupt a friggin’ ca$ino, for the love of Bugsy Siegel.

    In Atlantic City, no less. Too much debt for too little cash flow, but this does sorta reflect on the Donald’s dealmaking skills. But he’s kept his personal finances separate from his various corporate personas and as far as I can tell is a living example of the old line about how if you owe a bank $20,000, the bank owns you, but if you owe the bank a billion, you own the bank. Guy is a ten gallon asshat, but he’s got a touch for money – a sticky touch for other people’s money. Fucker pulls down two million a year in salary alone, you’d think he could afford hair transplants or something instead of wearing the worst rug east of the Mississippi.

    But it appears that every billionaire douche canoe out there has sociopathic tendencies to greater or lesser degrees, which is probably a requirement for becoming a billionaire.

    In other news, a federal judge finds that the Federal Reserve treated AIG too harshly(!!!) in 2008 when it took over that firm, also known as Hindenburg, Inc. How can this be, one asks, if the people responsible weren’t left homeless and begging at intersections at best and hanging from lampposts at worst?

    Fear not, banksters, the Honorable Judge Thomas C. Wheeler of the United States Court of Federal Claims has your back. From NYT:

    When the Federal Reserve propped up A.I.G. in September 2008, unlike its approach with most of the big banks, it threw out the company’s chief executive and took control of 79.9 percent of the company, nearly wiping out many of its shareholders. Taxpayers got all of their money back, and then some, receiving a profit of more than $20 billion. (Quite right, one applauds.)

    But in a stunning ruling, Judge Thomas C. Wheeler of the United States Court of Federal Claims said on Monday that those terms were too “draconian.” In other words, he suggested taxpayers should have offered A.I.G. a more generous deal.

    Too draconian? The company’s management and that prick with ears Joe Cassano should have been skinned like rabbits, figuratively speaking, and should have gone to fucking jail. They ought to be working the night shift at a convenience store in Camden or Compton.

    Good to know the Department of Justice sees fit to employ such perspicacious jackasses; clearly my tax dollars are being wisely spent.

  104. 104.

    PurpleGirl

    June 16, 2015 at 12:03 am

    @efgoldman: IIRC, Trump has not declared PERSONAL bankruptcy; his businesses, though have, multiple times. He takes salary and/or consulting fees from various business operations but loads those same businesses with tons of debt.

  105. 105.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:03 am

    just music already, dammit, and stop flirting.

  106. 106.

    Suzanne

    June 16, 2015 at 12:04 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Mr. Suzanne, who was not yet Mr. Suzanne, introduced me to this blog on our first date. (Yes, like the nerds we are, we talked about our favorite politics blogs, since we met on the night of the 2008 Iowa caucuses.)

    So you can all blame him. It’s his fault.

  107. 107.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:06 am

    miss bachelor omnes.

  108. 108.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:08 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    are you okay? are you happy?

    damn.

  109. 109.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:09 am

    miss you, omnes.

  110. 110.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 16, 2015 at 12:10 am

    @NotMax:

    That’s both bafflingly wonderful and amazingly bizarre. Or vice versa.

  111. 111.

    PurpleGirl

    June 16, 2015 at 12:12 am

    @cthulhu: A number of properties in the Palm Beach/West Palm area had the Trump name on them but he had only sold rights to use his name to the developers. He actually had nothing invested in them and potential buyers were surprised to learn this. A number of those projects also went under when units couldn’t sell.

  112. 112.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:13 am

    needs more omnes.

  113. 113.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 16, 2015 at 12:16 am

    @Little Boots : I am still happy. Have this,

  114. 114.

    PurpleGirl

    June 16, 2015 at 12:16 am

    @Suzanne: There is/was a urologist named Dr. P*nis. Not joking. And we put references to several of his publications in several of medical-legal books published by Matthew Bender. (I worked there as a proof reader and copy editor.)

  115. 115.

    Full metal Wingnut

    June 16, 2015 at 12:18 am

    @Suzanne: That is some nominative determinism right there.

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2015 at 12:18 am

    @Little Boots

    While you’re marking time, a forgotten hit.

  117. 117.

    Aleta

    June 16, 2015 at 12:20 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: I drove across the country from the West with Rumours and the ’75 album and (vehicle) speed the only constants. It was late 80s; a friend gave me the cassettes right before I left. (Hadn’t heard of Fleetwood Mac because I hadn’t been in the US.) I was headed east for the guy I was wildly in love with, and those songs and some Dylan drove me for the whole trip. I still see the desert and feel my heart then when I hear The Chain, etc Some of the best love songs.

    Life is so very wow.

  118. 118.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:24 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    love you, but … I won’t ask. love you.

  119. 119.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:25 am

    @NotMax:

    and REALLY love you.

  120. 120.

    PurpleGirl

    June 16, 2015 at 12:26 am

    Halp… I have a comment in moderation (#120). I used one of those bad words but didn’t correct it before submitting the comment. Halp!

  121. 121.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2015 at 12:26 am

    @Little Boots

    As we’re doing music, what ought by rights to be the theme song for the FOX Republican “debate.”

  122. 122.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:27 am

    no, I will ask you. omnes, what is going on with you?

  123. 123.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2015 at 12:28 am

    @Little Boots

    In that case, hello.

  124. 124.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:31 am

    @NotMax: you are terrible, and wonderful.

  125. 125.

    Petorado

    June 16, 2015 at 12:33 am

    @Little Boots: Your eponymous band

  126. 126.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2015 at 12:35 am

    @Little Boots

    Sort of like the lady in this tune?

  127. 127.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:37 am

    @NotMax: you are terrible, and wonderful.

    when did omnes get happy? omnes is not happy.

  128. 128.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:43 am

    the hell is omnes?

  129. 129.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:44 am

    or better yet, steeplejack, or billin. the best.

  130. 130.

    fuckwit

    June 16, 2015 at 12:44 am

    @mai naem mobile: Trump out-douched MARK CUBAN??? Jeebus…. that was a douchebag cage match, and Trump walked away with it.

  131. 131.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 12:45 am

    @Little Boots: Little Boots?

  132. 132.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:46 am

    everybody is angry now. why?

  133. 133.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 12:48 am

    @Little Boots: Little Boots?

  134. 134.

    fuckwit

    June 16, 2015 at 12:48 am

    @Little Boots: The last vestiges of the Old Republic have been swept away…

  135. 135.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:51 am

    okay,fine, everybody is doing a thing. okay.

  136. 136.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2015 at 12:52 am

    @Little Boots

    Personally, mellow due to the paint fumes from beginning a shelving project in the kitchen.

    Too much wind-blown dust outside to do the painting there.

  137. 137.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:55 am

    @NotMax:

    yes, all that.

  138. 138.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:55 am

    why is omnes happy?

    it’s not like it’s wrong for him to be happy. but, um, it’s unusual.

  139. 139.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 12:56 am

    Little Boots?

  140. 140.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:56 am

    @redshirt:

    um, what?

  141. 141.

    Aleta

    June 16, 2015 at 12:57 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3O1O76aAg&list=PL4294D0D20AECCE30&index=11

  142. 142.

    fuckwit

    June 16, 2015 at 12:58 am

    @Suzanne: We follow politics, willingly, for free, and that’s the same thing.

  143. 143.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 16, 2015 at 12:58 am

    @Little Boots: No one is angry.

  144. 144.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 12:59 am

    @Little Boots: [img]http://i.imgur.com/KTch70s.jpg[/img]

  145. 145.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 12:59 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I don’t trust you. you worry me.

  146. 146.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 1:03 am

    @Little Boots: Little Boots?

  147. 147.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 1:04 am

    @redshirt:

    you are such a goob. I’m starting to like you.

  148. 148.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 1:05 am

    @Little Boots: Isn’t it annoying?

  149. 149.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 1:06 am

    @redshirt:

    no

  150. 150.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 1:07 am

    still miss omnes.

  151. 151.

    Aleta

    June 16, 2015 at 1:07 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFvTVQObI5I

  152. 152.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 1:09 am

    @Little Boots: Little Boots?

  153. 153.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 1:10 am

    @redshirt:

    you are such a damn goob.

    again, think I like you.

  154. 154.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 1:12 am

    @Little Boots: What’s a goob?

  155. 155.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 1:13 am

    @redshirt:

    you. when you are in a mood.

  156. 156.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 1:15 am

    @Little Boots: Hmm. Little Boots?

  157. 157.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 1:16 am

    @redshirt:

    don’t you start.

  158. 158.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    June 16, 2015 at 1:16 am

    In honor of tonight’s win, my favorite clip from the all-time greatest hockey movie:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n_w4MV_LwMw

  159. 159.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 1:18 am

    which you care to post awesomeness, redshirt?

  160. 160.

    Little Boots

    June 16, 2015 at 1:22 am

    okay, fine, hey child, stay wild:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8zksSKb9Zg

  161. 161.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2015 at 1:24 am

    @Little Boots: Log!

  162. 162.

    A non mouse

    June 16, 2015 at 2:10 am

    @Suzanne:

    In WV there was an OB named Dr Harry Beaver. Toledo, OH has a urologist named Dr Dick Tapper.

    My inner 12 year old laughed everytime Dick Tapper was overhead paged.

  163. 163.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2015 at 2:27 am

    @A non mouse

    Could have been worse, could have paged Dr. Seymour Head. :)

  164. 164.

    opiejeanne

    June 16, 2015 at 2:53 am

    @Little Boots: I’m sleepy, my name is Jeanne, but I wasn’t a homecoming queen.

    I’m fairly cheerful right now.

  165. 165.

    bago

    June 16, 2015 at 2:56 am

    And now, angry ticks fire out of my nipples.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGqJ8vwpOJY

  166. 166.

    opiejeanne

    June 16, 2015 at 3:28 am

    @bago: My spoon is too big

  167. 167.

    bago

    June 16, 2015 at 3:32 am

    @opiejeanne: For these nipples, you bet your ass!!

    Damn. It’s hard to do an Andrew Dice Clay voice in text.

  168. 168.

    Botsplainer

    June 16, 2015 at 3:52 am

    Locally, there was a gyno named Dr Hyman.

    There was also a proctologist named Dr Heine.

  169. 169.

    Valdivia

    June 16, 2015 at 5:54 am

    well, obviously I missed an epic thread because I was too exhausted and fell asleep at 10:30. That will teach me.

  170. 170.

    FortGeek

    June 16, 2015 at 8:39 am

    @Botsplainer: One of the actors on the 70s TV show “Emergency!” was a fire captain playing himself: Dick Hammer played Captain Hammer.

  171. 171.

    Quaker in a Basement

    June 16, 2015 at 11:27 am

    “…Stubby index fiiinger…looking like a toad….”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Vk0mDCXBo

  172. 172.

    gocart mozart

    June 16, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    Ben Stein. WHY? He is a degreed economist and a political hack with no expertise in 1860 America. I finally had to turn it off to make him shut up.

    Stein is not really even an economist, he only has a bachelors in econ, he just plays one on TV. I have a bachelors in philosophy, does that make me a philosopher?

  173. 173.

    gocart mozart

    June 16, 2015 at 1:12 pm

    @Botsplainer:
    Best name headline : “Grand jury indicts former Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner Richie Farmer.”
    http://www.kentucky.com/2013/04/22/2610643/richie-farmer-indicted-by-federal.html

  174. 174.

    Rasputin's Evil Twin

    June 16, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    @Suzanne: The OBY/GYN in my hometown for years was Dr. Seymor Weiner.

    God’s sense of humor is bizarre.

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