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You are here: Home / Past Elections / Election 2016 / Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: “Boardroom Palin”

Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: “Boardroom Palin”

by Anne Laurie|  June 16, 201510:59 pm| 113 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, Clown Shoes

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Unless Trump loses 50% of his support in six weeks, he’s going to keep a legit candidate out of the first GOP debates.

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) June 16, 2015

That said, Trump currently leads Christie, Cruz, Carson and Huckabee in New Hampshire. http://t.co/DZPl8fx3sI

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) June 16, 2015

Mr. Charles P. Pierce, at Esquire:

… Trump’s vaguely paragraph-like globs of words were shot through with magical spells. There’s this doctor he knows who doesn’t like the Affordable Care Act. There’s this manufacturer he knows who’s having trouble with China. They all call Trump — perhaps through his bridgework, perhaps not — and unburden themselves on him because they know that Trump is the person who can solve their problems because he is a problem-solver on the art of the deal, the four bankruptcies notwithstanding.

He is the inevitable result of 40 years of political conjuring, mainly by Republicans, but abetted by far too many Democrats as well. He is the inevitable product of anyone who ever argued that our political institutions should be run “like a business.” (Like whose businesses? Like Trump’s? Like Carly Fiorina’s Hewlett Packard?) He is the inevitable product of anyone who ever argued why the government can’t balance its books “the way any American family would.” He is the inevitable result of the deregulated economy that was deregulated out of a well-cultivated wonder and awe directed at the various masters of the universe. Sooner or later, all of this misbegotten magical thinking was going to burp up a clown like Donald Trump…

Trump: "Thanks to fracking, and the other things, the oil is all over the place." This is basically Boardroom Palin.

— Big Sexy Jeb! Lund (@Mobute) June 16, 2015

.@simonmaloy with a classy, a very bigly classy, take on Trump http://t.co/WtAlJAAHtr

— Jim Newell (@jim_newell) June 16, 2015

Gilded coprolite Donald Trump held a very classy, very beautiful event today at one of his many very classy, very beautiful properties in Manhattan. Trump said many words as part of this event, though I hesitate to call that assemblage of words a “speech,” as that would unjustly imply that any level of organization or forethought went into his remarks. The polite adjective for Trump’s performance is “meandering,” but such courtesies are wasted on that leathery slug. More accurately, Trump offered a roughly 50-minute stream-of-consciousness extrusion of verbal diarrhea that seemed to be influenced primarily by Trump’s garish ego and/or an undisclosed but serious head injury. But sandwiched in between all of Trump’s insane braggadocio and aggressive ignorance was one key phrase: “I am officially running for president of the United States.”

Now, keep in mind that saying it doesn’t necessarily make it so. As of this moment, Trump still has not filed any paperwork with the Federal Election Commission, which one must do to actually run for president. Until such time has he signs on the dotted line with the FEC, he’s just trolling for attention…

Donald Trump: "I identify as a presidential candidate."

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) June 16, 2015

"The American dream is dead," says Donald Trump. Vote for me!

— Matt Viser (@mviser) June 16, 2015

Trump: "When did we ever beat Japan at anything?" CNN voiceover: "… except for WWII." *rolls Hiroshima footage.* This just happened.

— Jared Keller (@jaredbkeller) June 16, 2015

the first draft of history right here https://t.co/TagBGDpHbp

— Big Sexy Jeb! Lund (@Mobute) June 16, 2015

My @realDonaldTrump report card: Style B-. Substance B-. Overall B-. Full report card here: http://t.co/W16URRSqvW pic.twitter.com/DKwSEKg2LH

— Mark Halperin (@MarkHalperin) June 16, 2015

I know everyone focuses on the grades when mocking Halperin but pic.twitter.com/nAxXj2Un5x

— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) June 16, 2015

To recap: Donald Trump ranted about Mexican rapists and how rich he is, and Mark Halperin gave him a B- for substance.

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) June 16, 2015

"My promise: even when I become President, you will still receive the level of quality service you're used to at Donald Trump KIA of Islip."

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) June 16, 2015

CSPAN caller on Trump: [woman with slow, buttery southern black accent] "He may be on drugs."

— Big Sexy Jeb! Lund (@Mobute) June 16, 2015

Our statement on Trump: pic.twitter.com/8I8ilMzwUh

— Holly! Shulman (@HollyShulman) June 16, 2015

Everyone, please stop. This presidential announcement tease is just a ploy to get you to blow up Donald Trump's favstar.

— Big Sexy Jeb! Lund (@Mobute) June 16, 2015

Herewith please find documented proof that my net worth is $9,240,299,985.01 pic.twitter.com/h0CILksAB2

— Felix Salmon (@felixsalmon) June 16, 2015

If you're embarrassed that Trump is an actual candidate, remember: Italy elected Silvio Berlusconi prime minister *several times*

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) June 17, 2015

Ted Cruz: “I’m pleased to welcome Donald Trump into the race for the 2016 Republican nomination for President of the United States."

— Matt Viser (@mviser) June 16, 2015

Let's give @realDonaldTrump some credit. He is a lot clearer on Iraq than Bush or Rubio.

— Neera Tanden (@neeratanden) June 16, 2015

Trump isn't really a more ridiculous person than Newt Gingrich, and Newt Gingrich won the South Carolina primary calling for a moon base.

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) June 16, 2015

Hey, @realDonaldTrump — here's our Wednesday front page. http://t.co/m7V8GbV4r7 pic.twitter.com/MMJWECKq02

— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) June 17, 2015

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  1. 1.

    cokane

    June 16, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    Really he deserves to win. He’s the perfect GOP representative of today. A fraud of a businessman, he both somehow devotes his life to wealth and materialism while Christian. Dumbly patriotic and cluelessly racist.

  2. 2.

    John Revolta

    June 16, 2015 at 11:24 pm

    Unless Trump loses 50% of his support in six weeks, he’s going to keep a legit candidate out of the first GOP debates.

    Yah, well first they’d have to………………………….
    oh, fuck it. The snark, it fails me.

  3. 3.

    A Ghost To Most

    June 16, 2015 at 11:27 pm

    @cokane: this

    And Halperin is his prophet.

  4. 4.

    Brachiator

    June 16, 2015 at 11:27 pm

    I want Trump to stay in as long as possible. It can only help the Democrats. Please visit states with large Latino populations Suck up votes. Push the other GOPPERS to the right.

    Trump will eventually bail, probably when he’s asked for his tax returns.

  5. 5.

    max

    June 16, 2015 at 11:28 pm

    Josh Barro: Trump isn’t really a more ridiculous person than Newt Gingrich, and Newt Gingrich won the South Carolina primary calling for a moon base.

    And that’s why WE NEED NEWT! RUN NEWT RUN!

    max
    [‘And also Mittens should undeclare that he isn’t running.’]

  6. 6.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 16, 2015 at 11:28 pm

    @John Revolta:

    oh, fuck it. The snark, it fails me.

    I know just what you mean.

  7. 7.

    ms_canadada

    June 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    Oh, how I love American politics!

  8. 8.

    Hunter Gathers

    June 16, 2015 at 11:31 pm

    Trump’s candidacy just might end up being the greatest work of Performance Art the world had ever known.

  9. 9.

    piratedan

    June 16, 2015 at 11:31 pm

    and the wonderful thing about this, is that it will finally elevate the GOP debates to speak about real imaginary issues to real Americans, who imagine that these are real issues.

  10. 10.

    maya

    June 16, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    The guy has chasmisma.

  11. 11.

    Redshift

    June 16, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    Unless Trump loses 50% of his support in six weeks, he’s going to keep a legit candidate out of the first GOP debates.

    I suppose, in the unlikely event that Kasich is the one on the line who gets bumped out, this statement could actually be true. Calling any of the other mid-level clown car passengers “legit” enough to believe they’re being unfairly excluded is lowering the bar to limbo levels.

  12. 12.

    Brachiator

    June 16, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    I have been having fun with the political attitude quiz originally posted by Elizabelle (I think). My mother and my sister and her family took it as well. We almost all came out Bernie and Clinton or Clinton and Bernie. My niece came out Leftist Authoritarian. My mother is solidly left as well.

    My nephew, a college junior, is an outlier. I will not go into details, but either he is deliberately playing with my sister’s mind, or he has got a lot of explaining to do.

    http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz

  13. 13.

    piratedan

    June 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm

    @maya: if there was an upding or rec mechanism, you’d have one from me :-)

  14. 14.

    Chris

    June 16, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    Unless Trump loses 50% of his support in six weeks, he’s going to keep a legit candidate out of the first GOP debates.

    I just saw this same argument made by the talking heads on CNN a couple hours ago. Good grief.

  15. 15.

    SarahT

    June 16, 2015 at 11:43 pm

    I love you, NY Daily News – Cannot wait to see this on newsstands tomorrow.

  16. 16.

    cokane

    June 16, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    @Chris: What’s sad is that this is possible. So weird what US politics has become.

    Normally I’d say polls this far out (and even later in Nov) don’t matter. But, they’re going to use such polls to decide debate participation. And that’s going to have a ripple effect on the campaign.

    Frankly the GOP deserves this shit. For attempting to run the goddamned country like shit, they’ve succeeded wonderfully into turning their party into a damn TLC show.

  17. 17.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 16, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    @cokane: Counsel for TLC are on the line for you. Something about defamation, I believe…

  18. 18.

    Ruckus

    June 16, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    @piratedan:
    Needs a like button.

  19. 19.

    workworkwork

    June 16, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    @maya: Terry Pratchett had the proper word for this: Charisn’t-ma.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    Too much Trump. Way too much Trump.

    And not word one anywhere on the front page acknowledging the 800th anniversary of Magna Carta.

    :(

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 16, 2015 at 11:56 pm

    @NotMax: We won’t get anything on the bicentennial of Waterloo on Thursday either.

  22. 22.

    Ruckus

    June 16, 2015 at 11:56 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I’d bet it’s definition, not defamation.

  23. 23.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 16, 2015 at 11:58 pm

    @Ruckus: Perhaps it was damnation. My one ear is a bit plugged right now.

  24. 24.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2015 at 12:01 am

    I actually think that Trump will be a boon to the other GOP candidates, as none can match him for buffoonery.

    His notoriously thin skin and tendency toward personal insult could also create some fairly colorful debate moments.

  25. 25.

    Ruckus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:02 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Whatever it is, they know what they are, it’s just haggling over the price. And if they can get anyone to pay.

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    June 17, 2015 at 12:03 am

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Indubitably. Thousands of words about a glorified carnival barker suffering from ingrown ego, though.

    (The “Zeus descending from Olympus” entrance on the escalator was an obvious tell. Surprised that artificial clouds hadn’t been created, pierced by the beam of a million candlepower amber spotlight.)

  27. 27.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:04 am

    @Brachiator: Good to hear. Thanks to my bud Larry on Facebook for putting up that quiz.

  28. 28.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:06 am

    @Elizabelle: It seems to be making the rounds.

  29. 29.

    joel hanes

    June 17, 2015 at 12:09 am

    @Brachiator:

    I came out Bernie 97 %, HRC 76 %

  30. 30.

    sm*t cl*de

    June 17, 2015 at 12:22 am

    The guy has chasmisma.

    Chasmiasma.

  31. 31.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:23 am

    @Redshift: The NYTimes is already fellating Kasich too. Their Jeb! horse is faltering. Need an establishment, non-Klown Kar candidate.

    John Kasich, Ohio’s Republican Rebel, Nears Run for President

    blurb: Mr. Kasich, the moderate[!], shoot-from-the-hip Republican governor of a crucial swing state, is expected to announce his entry into the race in July.

    Described within the story as

    **” ambitious congressman”

    ** “impatient, edgy politician known for his voluble personality and unorthodox views.” [So that means he’s not like those icky, awful, mean Republicans? Amiright?]

    ** “hoping his résumé —former chairman of the House Budget Committee, former Fox News host, retired Lehman Brothers investment banker and two-term governor of a swing state — might give him a second chance.”

    ** candidate describing himself to a PR maven: “Who has national security experience? Who was involved in changing Washington to the tune of a balanced budget and working hard on welfare reform? Who spent 10 years in the private sector and then was an executive of one of the most important states of America and had success? So you tell me — you’re a P.R. person. Does that sound like a good way to talk about it?”

    …. “Part of the argument for Mr. Kasich is his record as a two-term governor in a state critical to winning the presidency. Traveling the country, he promotes what he calls his “Ohio story” of economic recovery; on his watch, an $8 billion deficit has turned into a surplus, he said, of nearly $2 billion.

    John Weaver, Mr. Kasich’s newly hired chief strategist, has a frame of his own. “I like to say he’s a rebel who can govern,” Mr. Weaver said.

    The rebel tag is apt, but it may go only so far with conservatives. Mr. Kasich has expanded Medicaid under President Obama’s health care law, embraced the Common Core educational standards and said he was open to a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants — policies that he might have a hard time explaining to conservatives in Iowa.”

    ** described as being one of a trio of “other Republican mavericks” — John McCain and Jon Huntsman. [Media darlings, both. ] And

    ** “drawing attacks from conservatives like the commentator Erick Erickson, who wrote, “One does not run for president in the Republican Party by hiring consultants who hate the Republican base.”’

    And this is all one mid-sized article. Before the guy even formally declares.

    Villagers, start your engines.

  32. 32.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:23 am

    @joel hanes: I was 98% Bernie, 90% Hillary, but only 81% O’Malley. Maybe the fact that I used the first names of the first two and the last name of the third signifies something.

  33. 33.

    srv

    June 17, 2015 at 12:24 am

    As someone on /showerthoughts said, the Donald & I are worth $9B dollars, give or take.

    No riots yet. Most excellent esoteric yell outside? “Heyyy Warriors, come out and play”

    The streets, they have memory.

  34. 34.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 17, 2015 at 12:26 am

    I was about 95 Bernie 75 hillary but when I dug into why it was mostly because they counted things hillary hasn’t opined on yet as “disagreements”. Mostly.

  35. 35.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:27 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Good quiz. Might surprise some folks. I was surprised to be so far into the Bernie Sanders camp.

    Not that hugely helpful, because I would not vote for a Republican — ANY Republican — for president if my (non-existent) dog’s life was at stake.

  36. 36.

    Chris

    June 17, 2015 at 12:27 am

    @max:

    Trump isn’t really a more ridiculous person than Newt Gingrich, and Newt Gingrich won the South Carolina primary calling for a moon base.

    Let’s be a little more comprehensive:

    Newt Gingrich said he’d build a base on the moon. (Because reasons).

    Rick Santorum said rape constituted a gift of life.

    Jeb Bush said that he would have invaded Iraq even knowing what we now know.

    Scott Walker said that refusing to give in to peaceful protesters was like fighting ISIS.

    Rand Paul said that for doctors to have to treat patients was like slavery.

    Rick Perry was adamant that there were three federal agencies that had to be abolished, but couldn’t remember them all.

    Marco Rubio said that it was a “great mystery” whether the Earth was created in seven days.

    Ted Cruz self-identified as the future answer to an obscure Trivial Pursuit question. And as a “proud wacko bird.”

    These are the candidates who’re supposedly “too serious” for the indignity of Donald Trump’s competition.

    The defense rests, Your Honor.

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:30 am

    @Chris: THAT belongs on Facebook. It should go viral.

    Funny. And true.

  38. 38.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    June 17, 2015 at 12:31 am

    Sooner or later, all of this misbegotten magical thinking was going to burp up a clown like Donald Trump…

    Magical thinking indeed…

    And whilst magical thinking can be charming in a five yr old, it’s absolutely revolting in an adult…

  39. 39.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:32 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Oh yeah. Def making the rounds. But you have no idea how small my FB presence or exposure is!

  40. 40.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:33 am

    @Chris:

    Scott Walker said that refusing to give in to peaceful protesters was like fighting ISIS.

    I was in the protests in Madison almost every day. I have yet to behead anyone. I do own several razor sharp knives though.

  41. 41.

    piratedan

    June 17, 2015 at 12:34 am

    @Chris: tbh, the only one who sounds sane is Gingrich, at least a moon base project would be worth a few jobs and isn’t anti-science

  42. 42.

    Chris

    June 17, 2015 at 12:36 am

    @Elizabelle:

    I am happy to be plagiarized, if you like.

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    What are you waiting for?

  43. 43.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:36 am

    @Elizabelle: Other people have put it out there.

  44. 44.

    catclub

    June 17, 2015 at 12:36 am

    @Elizabelle:

    And this is all one mid-sized article. Before the guy even formally declares.

    I would not worry. Huntsman got all kinds of good press. Didn’t do any good.

  45. 45.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:39 am

    @Chris: Willingness to die for the cause. Me, I have things in my life right now that make me very unwilling to do that.

  46. 46.

    trollhattan

    June 17, 2015 at 12:41 am

    Colbert weighs in on the Donald. I can’t wait until September.

  47. 47.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2015 at 12:41 am

    Donald Trump might also be the single best living, breathing example of why decedents’ estates should be taxed at about 99% for anything over the first million.

  48. 48.

    Tommy

    June 17, 2015 at 12:41 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yes that. I don’t want to die for any cause.

  49. 49.

    Chris

    June 17, 2015 at 12:42 am

    @piratedan:

    I don’t mind a moon base, all things being equal. I just doubt if the tech’s up to it, and can think of a lot of more urgent things to spend the $$$ on.

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Ah, that pesky survival instinct.

  50. 50.

    max

    June 17, 2015 at 12:42 am

    @piratedan: tbh, the only one who sounds sane is Gingrich, at least a moon base project would be worth a few jobs and isn’t anti-science

    EXACTLY! AT THIS POINT, NEWT IS THE TRUE REPUBLICAN MODERATE!

    Bahahahahahahahaha.

    max
    [‘We need just 4 more candidates for a Sweet Sixteen bracket.’]

  51. 51.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:43 am

    @Chris: Yes. And the fact that I like my knives. I don’t want them to be sullied.

  52. 52.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:46 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: You gots your very own jihadi Jane (except not really a jihadist)? Life is good.

    Incidentally, for having identified the guy, they have not apprehended Jihadi John (or whatever his real name is) yet, have they? That kind of fell off the front pages …

  53. 53.

    srv

    June 17, 2015 at 12:48 am

    Why isn’t there already an ActBlue for Donald?

  54. 54.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:50 am

    @trollhattan: That’s excellent. Colbert’s hair is not quite aerodynamic enough, but he’s got the language and voice and mannerisms.

  55. 55.

    RaflW

    June 17, 2015 at 12:51 am

    @Brachiator:

    I have been having fun with the political attitude quiz originally posted by Elizabelle (I think).

    I’m thinking this was floating around that there Book-o-Faces lately, hadn’t taken it. But with the BJ imprimatur of fun-ness, I just did.

    It says I’m with Bernie 98%, Clinton 83%, O’Malley whocares%, and (shockingly) Jeb! 43%.

    I also noticed that it wanted me to sign up to receive Bernie’s informative newsletters. I declined.

    *You can deduce that I’m between 83 and 43% O’Malley inclined, but again … who cares?

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    June 17, 2015 at 12:52 am

    @srv

    Donald don’t do blue; it’s all about the green. Shill, baby, shill.

  57. 57.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:52 am

    @srv: Candidate does not want just ActBlue. He wants ActBlueChip.

    A very classy, very pretty account.

  58. 58.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:53 am

    @Elizabelle: Jihadi Jane? I am not familiar.

  59. 59.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:54 am

    @Elizabelle: It’ll be yoouge.

  60. 60.

    Ruckus

    June 17, 2015 at 12:54 am

    @Chris:
    A moon base would be a great place to send the entire klown kar. With all occupants of course.

  61. 61.

    joel hanes

    June 17, 2015 at 12:55 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I was in the protests in Madison almost every day.

    Thank you.

    I couldn’t be there; I sent pizza every few days, and sent money to the TA’s union to help cover the costs of cleaning the Capitol.

    Fscking working for money can keep a man from doing what’s right.

  62. 62.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 12:56 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Something the jihadists often lack.

    Well, Jane (real or virtual partners) and real jobs and prospects and a functioning government.

    (You mentioned you had something to live for…. assuming it’s beyond music links… or us.)

  63. 63.

    RaflW

    June 17, 2015 at 12:59 am

    @srv: OK, that’s actually funny. Or I’m really tired.

    In fact … g’night, y’all!
    Signing off in CDT-land.

  64. 64.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 1:00 am

    @joel hanes: It was interesting to see Wobblies and cops agreeing. I lived six blocks away. Being there was the right thing to do. No thanks are necessary. I couldn’t have lived with myself if I hadn’t been there.

  65. 65.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 1:01 am

    @catclub: True that re Huntsman. And — except for the Sunday shows — we did not get President McCain.

    But I worry about media fluffing of Kasich or whoever is the “establishment” candidate, especially since they denigrate HRC and ignore Sanders as much as possible.

  66. 66.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 1:02 am

    @Elizabelle: (

    You mentioned you had something to live for…. assuming it’s beyond music links… or us.)

    Dear god, I would certainly hope so.

    ETA: Although music is important, FFS.

  67. 67.

    David Koch

    June 17, 2015 at 1:06 am

    I was watching MSNBC tonight and they had a poll showing Bernie Sanders is surging in New Hampshire and after only a couple of weeks he has cut her previous 50 pt lead to just 10 points.

    And it makes me wonder, what will Hillary’s supporters do if he wins. Will they be as upset as they were in 2008 or will they be more resigned to it?

  68. 68.

    Chris

    June 17, 2015 at 1:10 am

    @max:

    Barry Goldwater remembered sharing a moment with Bob Dole in the late nineties when they realized “we’re the moderates of the party now, can you imagine that?” Barry effing Goldwater.

    @Ruckus:

    What has the Moon ever done to you?

  69. 69.

    Elizabelle

    June 17, 2015 at 1:10 am

    WaPost website headline:

    ‘Decapitation’ strikes have killed leaders, not al-Qaeda

    Somehow, decapitations seem more civil when they’re done with drones rather than knives/swords.

    /semi-snark

  70. 70.

    Cacti

    June 17, 2015 at 1:12 am

    This is my first spring in the Pacific northwest (Washington), and I have to say…

    Holy balls does it stay light for a long time here in late spring.

    It’s 10:09 p.m. and still not completely dark. And the longest day of the year is still 4-days away.

    No wonder the state’s an agricultural powerhouse. With sunrise around 5:00 a.m., that’s about 17-hours of sunshine a day during peak growing season.

  71. 71.

    Chris

    June 17, 2015 at 1:16 am

    @Elizabelle:

    CNN was talking about how “if you cut off the head of the snake, all you get is more snake heads.”

    Can’t believe they passed up a chance at a HYDRA reference.

  72. 72.

    Brachiator

    June 17, 2015 at 1:47 am

    @RaflW: I wondered a bit whether the test is weighted to push toward Bernie or other candidates, but I don’t look at the thing as being definitive, and it has led to some fun discussions of real political issues. Go figure.

    The one thing that’s fun is that none of the responses lead to this conclusion: “both sides, no difference.”

  73. 73.

    jl

    June 17, 2015 at 2:12 am

    Dammitall. Simon Maloy says the sleazebad hasn’t filed the papers. Was we all punked by Trump today? I hope not. I want to see him up there on the stage at the first debate. He’s just as qualified to be president as half of the GOP candidates. Trump is just as classy, just as qualified and just as deserving.

  74. 74.

    Ruckus

    June 17, 2015 at 2:12 am

    @Chris:
    Let’s see…..
    Hasn’t made me long for green cheese.
    When full has kept me awake on camping trips.
    Kept my boat in the harbor because of low tide.

    OK the moon is too close and hasn’t done me that wrong. Now the sun, there’s a good place. I don’t think it would be damaged in any way. Alright maybe a small burp, but how would you know?

    ETA Of course they’d have to go at night so that the sun couldn’t see them coming.

  75. 75.

    Ruckus

    June 17, 2015 at 2:17 am

    @jl:
    He’s just as qualified to be president as half all of the GOP candidates.

    Needed a touch of fixing.

  76. 76.

    Jerzy Russian

    June 17, 2015 at 2:19 am

    @Cacti: You are in the sweet spot where it is daylight for a long time and where the Sun has a reasonably high elevation at noon so that it can do some good. If you were in Fairbanks you would have nearly 24 hours of continuous daylight but would have much cooler weather to deal with since the Sun is much closer to the horizon.

  77. 77.

    jl

    June 17, 2015 at 2:19 am

    @Ruckus: Forget the moon. The moon is for losers. It’s small and drab, no class. It’s basically a slum. Trump will announce the Trump Jupiter Base soon, you watch. Private public partnership, highest quality work. I’d start scraping together the cash for early discount memberships in the Trump Jupiter Gold Star Club for special executive perks on your visits.

    A Jupiter Base will be on Jupiter and Jupiter is big, it has class, its a big colorful, very colorful and special planet, it’s the biggest there is, and America deserves the best and the biggest. It will inspire the country to do great things.

  78. 78.

    Mike G

    June 17, 2015 at 2:20 am

    “Thanks to fracking, and the other things, the oil is all over the place.”

    One true statement, as it stands. I live near Refugio Beach, California, which is currently covered in 100,000 gallons of the stuff after a criminally negligent and under-regulated oil company let their pipe rust through.

  79. 79.

    ruemara

    June 17, 2015 at 2:35 am

    I’m exhausted. Got one more day to help a rhino out. https://experiment.com/projects/using-high-tech-toys-to-improve-foraging-in-captive-rhinos?s=discover

    our giant herbivores need help surviving at all and if they have to be in captivity, we need enrichment toys. SO if you have some scratch, let the rhino win.

    Also, fuck Donald Trump.

  80. 80.

    Aleta

    June 17, 2015 at 2:40 am

    He is the inevitable product of anyone who ever argued that our political institutions should be run “like a business.” (Like whose businesses? Like Trump’s? Like Carly Fiorina’s Hewlett Packard?)

    Well, for sure like the savings and loan business .

    The Bush family’s dealings illustrate some of the ways this S&L loot was extracted. In some loan transactions, money was simply siphoned out fraudulently to outsiders under lucrative arrangements with bank directors; Neil Bush’s record illustrates these type of transactions. In other instances, as exemplified by Jeb’s S&L dealings, loans were made for speculative investments or ventures without attempts to secure repayment if they were not profitable. Political connections often helped protect S&L misconduct;9 in the Bush’s case, George senior’s record demonstrated laxity toward the perpetrators, several of whom were in his own social circles.

  81. 81.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 17, 2015 at 2:44 am

    It’s so appropriate that he chose Trump Tower to make is big announcement, as the place is so crass that Midas himself would blush.

  82. 82.

    Kropadope

    June 17, 2015 at 2:50 am

    @ JoshBarro:

    Trump isn’t really a more ridiculous person than Newt Gingrich, and Newt Gingrich won the South Carolina primary calling for a moon base.

    What’s wrong with a moon base?

  83. 83.

    Aleta

    June 17, 2015 at 2:52 am

    @Ruckus:
    from Sailing Alone Around the World, written by Joshua Slocum (around 1900)

    The fog lifting before night, I was afforded a look at the sun just as it was touching the sea. I watched it go down and out of sight. Then I turned my face eastward, and there, apparently at the very end of the bowsprit, was the smiling full moon rising out of the sea. Neptune himself coming over the bows could not have startled me more. “Good evening, sir,” I cried; “I’m glad to see you.” Many a long talk since then I have had with the man in the moon; he had my confidence on the voyage.

  84. 84.

    NotMax

    June 17, 2015 at 2:55 am

    @jl

    The clock starts ticking on the filing when (1) an announcement of candidacy is made and (2) $5,000 is spent on the campaign. Papers must be filed no later than 15 days after both those things occur.

    Whether or not he will actually file is, well, a crapshoot.

  85. 85.

    Kropadope

    June 17, 2015 at 3:02 am

    @RaflW: I got something like:

    Bernie 87%
    Clinton 70
    O’Malley 54
    Rs <= 20*
    Cruz 7

    *Huckabee may have made it into the 30s

  86. 86.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 17, 2015 at 3:11 am

    I don’t think they’re shilling for anybody (the quiz site). I’ve used that every election over the years I think and I always got like 98% Green Party, then dean or Edwards or what have you, then whoever actually got the nomination.

  87. 87.

    Aleta

    June 17, 2015 at 3:18 am

    acapella
    When the Moon Shines in the Evening

    When the moon shines in the evening
    And the trees glow with a silver light
    I go out and I watch and wonder
    That I live to see this night

    When the moon is a silver fire
    In the east burning soft and low
    All my sorrows rise and leave me
    None can see them as they go

    by Stanley Scott ©1983 Stanley Scott Music
    Recorded on Angels in Daring Kallet, Epstein and Cicone Overall Music OM-1 http://www.cindykallet.com

  88. 88.

    TriassicSands

    June 17, 2015 at 3:31 am

    Unless Trump loses 50% of his support in six weeks, he’s going to keep a legit candidate out of the first GOP debates.

    Funny, I can’t identify a single “legit” candidate in the entire GOP.

  89. 89.

    TriassicSands

    June 17, 2015 at 3:52 am

    I don’t see sociopaths as “legit” candidates.

  90. 90.

    sharl

    June 17, 2015 at 4:04 am

    ~~~BREAKING~~~BREAKING~~~BREAKING~~~BREAKING~~~

    John Cole @Johngcole

    Woo! Nightmares!

    3:54 AM – 17 Jun 2015

  91. 91.

    Citizen Alan

    June 17, 2015 at 4:39 am

    @Brachiator:

    I just took that quiz earlier this evening. 96% Bernie, but a still respectable 81% Hillary. O’Malley at 64%, Christie (inexplicably) at 34% and the rest in single digits.

  92. 92.

    Amir Khalid

    June 17, 2015 at 5:29 am

    @Citizen Alan:
    Just for a lark, I took the quiz too: 98% Sanders, 93% Clinton, 79% O’Malley, no Republican higher than 27% Christie. Oddly enough, Jeb isn’t among the R comparisons.

  93. 93.

    Amir Khalid

    June 17, 2015 at 5:37 am

    It would seem from that poll that there’s not that much distance on the issues between Sanders and Hillary.

  94. 94.

    Death Panel Truck

    June 17, 2015 at 6:03 am

    @Cacti: We like it.

  95. 95.

    satby

    June 17, 2015 at 6:45 am

    @Amir Khalid: There really isn’t that much distance between them.
    I’m still a bit surprised at how low(ish) O’Malley scores on real progressive policies though. Askew has been noticeable in her absence about that.

  96. 96.

    BruceFromOhio

    June 17, 2015 at 6:59 am

    The NY Daily News cover is all you really need to know. And a Twitter account valued at 3 beel-yun dollars? That’s amusing all by itself.

    But ewww, I accidentally read something by Mark Halperin first thing in the morning. Thanks for fucking up an otherwise ordinary Wednesday. Just kidding! It’ll be fine. But still: ewww.

  97. 97.

    NorthLeft12

    June 17, 2015 at 7:20 am

    You know, the fact that Trump is actually running is not hugely surprising. He has the money, time, “organization”, lack of shame, and outrageous ego/vanity to do it, and it makes sense for the publicity he will receive.

    What is absolutely stupefying is that there are pundits and news organizations that are actually taking this seriously. UN-FRACKING-BELIEVABLE!!

  98. 98.

    danielx

    June 17, 2015 at 7:49 am

    Let’s see, hashtags to be associated with Donald Trump…#clownshoes, #badhair, #douchecanoe….the possibilities are endless.

    Presumably there are actual sentient human beings out there somewhere who think a Trump presidency would be wicked radical cool. I wish these individuals could be easily identified – you know, purple fingertip, American flag pin, dunce tattoo on forehead, something.

    Edit: Mark Halperin continues to be an idiot. In this uncertain world, it’s good to have at least a few things one can count on.

  99. 99.

    Joel

    June 17, 2015 at 8:02 am

    @Cacti: envious of anyone in my former home…

  100. 100.

    debbie

    June 17, 2015 at 8:07 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    It was interesting to see Wobblies and cops agreeing.

    I bet it was. Do you think it will endure through the 2016 election?

  101. 101.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 8:24 am

    @debbie: If you mean do I think that the 1016 Dem presidential nominee and Feingold have decent chances of winning? Then, yes. But the unique circumstance of the those protests have passed.

  102. 102.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 17, 2015 at 8:31 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: 2016, damn it. 2016.

  103. 103.

    Amir Khalid

    June 17, 2015 at 8:42 am

    @NorthLeft12:
    Until he files the paperwork, he’s not technically running, is he? And he can only claim to be running. As he was in 2012, until he decided not to file the paperwork.

  104. 104.

    debbie

    June 17, 2015 at 8:47 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Whichever year, hopefully it will still be a factor. I’m hoping the unions’ hatred of Kasich will also be key to the failure of any dreams he has of running.

  105. 105.

    JMT

    June 17, 2015 at 9:08 am

    @ruemara:

    That is a great project! I made my pledge, and shared the link on Facebook. Got my fingers crossed that more BJ folk will do the same.

  106. 106.

    boatboy_srq

    June 17, 2015 at 9:17 am

    Gilded coprolite Donald Trump held a very classy, very beautiful event today at one of his many very classy, very beautiful properties in Manhattan.

    Maybe it’s just the Old Money in me, but I can’t help thinking “classy” and “beautiful” here translate to “not equipped with solid gold commodes.” Trump oozes slime, and most of his properties strike me as less classy-and-beautiful and more cheap-and-crass.

    @cokane: Exactly, except… “Christian”? Please. There is no GOTea god but Mammon, and Rand (Ayn, not Tribblehead – just for clarity) is his prophet.

  107. 107.

    Ruckus

    June 17, 2015 at 9:27 am

    @boatboy_srq:
    Saw somewhere, someone calling him Ayn Paul. Seems rather appropriate.

  108. 108.

    NonyNony

    June 17, 2015 at 10:04 am

    Unless Trump loses 50% of his support in six weeks, he’s going to keep a legit candidate out of the first GOP debates.

    Uh, Dave? I hate to break this to you m’boy but in this here country the only “legit” candidates are the ones who can bring in the votes. If Trump is bringing in more voters than Cruz or Carson or Huckabee then Trump is a more “legit” candidate than Cruz or Carson or Huckabee.

    @Redshift:

    I suppose, in the unlikely event that Kasich is the one on the line who gets bumped out, this statement could actually be true.

    It would be so delicious to me if Donald Trump’s antics knocked King John Kasich out of the first debate. It would be so fitting for the former Fox News TV personality to get kicked off the island by Trump that I might giggle hysterically for days.

    That said, the downside of the Trump announcement is that now all of the little guys are likely to focus their fire on Trump instead of taking potshots at Bush and Walker (and Kasich when he throws his hat in officially). Trump’s targetting “their” low information gullible sheep and if he can steal them away, then the whole point of the “running for President” grift disappears.

    (Trump has basically two weeks to file his paperwork. I actually predict that he might just drop out before then and not file. He doesn’t really want to be President – he really just wants to keep his national profile up where his ego thinks it deserves to be.)

  109. 109.

    bjacques

    June 17, 2015 at 10:07 am

    I hope the Donald does file. They’re only a few arrows short a Quiverfull.

  110. 110.

    Librarian

    June 17, 2015 at 10:14 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: I think the 1016 election was between Canute and Aethelred the Unready.

  111. 111.

    g

    June 17, 2015 at 11:36 am

    “Boardroom Palin.” That’s perfect.

  112. 112.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    June 17, 2015 at 12:00 pm

    Unless Trump loses 50% of his support in six weeks, he’s going to keep a legit candidate out of the first GOP debates.

    He’s just as “legit” a candidate as 90% of these knuckleheads.

    However, for the good of the country, the GOP needs to nominate one of the True Believers (Kasich, Walker, Scott) who then needs to lose to the Democratic nominee by a margin so large that it can’t be waved away by allegations of “voter fraud”.

    Then, maybe, we’ll have finally hit Peak Wingnut and start crawling back to sanity (although most state houses will still be drowning in tea, so maybe not).

    If the GOP nominee winds up being another Establishment weenie (Jeb! or Mitt) who winds up losing by a slim margin, then things will continue to get more surreal.

  113. 113.

    Brachiator

    June 17, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    @Librarian:

    I think the 1016 election was between Canute and Aethelred the Unready.

    More a contest between Cnut and Edmund Ironside. Æthelred died in April 1016.

    Not just pedantry. I’ve been listening to a podcast called The ReX Factor, about English kings.

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