First gay couple to be married in Dallas Texas, George Harris 83 and Jack Evans 85. Together for 54 years
#LoveWins pic.twitter.com/1A5HOWfVLy
— Ethan (@EKM94) June 26, 2015
Well, they were mostly eager to get on the record…
Jindal in Iowa today: "The Supreme Court is completely out of control…If we want to save some money lets just get rid of the court."
— Caitlin Huey-Burns (@CHueyBurnsRCP) June 26, 2015
On Sean Hannity @TedCruz refers to "the darkest 24 hours in our nation's history"
— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) June 26, 2015
Mike Huckabee: "I will not acquiesce to an imperial court" http://t.co/4FOTVywsZV | AP photo pic.twitter.com/n1UJLikQK6
— POLITICO (@politico) June 26, 2015
Gov @ScottWalker calling for amendment to US Constitution declaring marriage between one man and one woman
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) June 26, 2015
Scott Walker Calls for Amendment Allowing States to Define Marriage, Repeal Baldness
— Big Sexy Jeb! Lund (@Mobute) June 26, 2015
First on CNN "Governor Bush does not believe amending the Constitution is the right course" re scotus ruling
— Dana Bash (@DanaBashCNN) June 26, 2015
Once again the Bush appointed Supreme Court Justice John Roberts has let us down. Jeb pushed him hard! Remember!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 26, 2015
Agree w Alito: "All Americans… should worry about what the majority’s claim of power portends.” #SCOTUS http://t.co/xckkwMv205
— Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) June 26, 2015
Rick Santorum: "Just as they have in cases from Dred Scott to Plessy, the Court has an imperfect track record."
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) June 26, 2015
Couldn’t find a statement from Little Prince Rand, but Reason helpfully dug up a pre-existing “documentary”:
Two presidential candidates, Mike Huckabee, the former Republican governor of Arkansas, and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), appear in the documentary feature, Light Wins: How to Overcome the Criminalization of Christianity (which also comes in an abridged 30 minute version).
An overwrought polemic cloaked in a veil of martyrdom, the film’s main target is “the homosexual agenda,” but it also takes aim at the transgendered, Muslims, and with the greatest helping of vitriol, the Christian “cowards” who stand silent while their own way of life is debased by “evil.” It is a heavy-breathing, technically deficient, vicious work of fearful propaganda, with nary a word of Christian forgiveness or charity spoken…
Other notables appearing in the film include Congressmen Steve King (R-Ia.), Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.), Tim Huelskamp (R-Kan.), and Trent Franks (R-Ariz.), as well as Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, anti-feminist activist Phyllis Schlafly, and Catholic League President Bill Donahue, all sounding the alarm about the coming criminalization of Christianity…
Though most of the film’s talking heads address an off-camera interviewer, Huckabee employs his familiar schtick of folksy socially conservative populism by looking directly into the camera as he advises his religious cohort to try to avoid being mean to homosexuals, but to get in the fight already to stop the spread of the dreaded “agenda.”…
Paul, the other GOP presidential hopeful appearing in the film, appears briefly in a segment about the potential for certain ministries to lose their tax-exempt status if they refuse to perform gay marriage ceremonies. While Paul has repeatedly made it clear that he is a supporter of “traditional marriage,” he clearly lacks the passion of the rest of the film’s cast, and has tried to downplay the issue as one that should not define the Republican Party…
Any other RINO squishes?…
Lindsey Graham says outright what other GOP statements only hint at: gay marriage is a political loser for right pic.twitter.com/dBEuBdR3Rh
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) June 26, 2015
Ah, well, as the proverb has it: The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on…
A reminder: Anthony Kennedy is in the seat that would've been held by Robert Bork.
— Niels Lesniewski (@nielslesniewski) June 26, 2015
Already got my first invitation to a straw man wedding
— Mike Tunison (@xmasape) June 26, 2015
Larry Craig at the Capitol today.
— Niels Lesniewski (@nielslesniewski) June 26, 2015
CNN contributor S.E. Cupp got teary on-air today about the SCOTUS decision http://t.co/LVIBv7r4E3 pic.twitter.com/RC87GqVlir
— Brendan James (@deep_beige) June 26, 2015
Texas attorney general orders clerks NOT to issue Gay marriage licenses. Says state law is above Supreme Court.
— Breaking News Feed (@PzFeed) June 26, 2015
they did this with slavery too. didn’t work that time either, tho
https://t.co/RDPddo15ZF
— america (@greghoward88) June 26, 2015
Already making the rounds: pic.twitter.com/TGTnabP7h2
— Justin Hyde (@Justin_Hyde) June 26, 2015
To top it all off, tonight the USA women will win their #WWC2015 game and then get interracial gay married at midfield. With health care.
— David S. Bernstein (@dbernstein) June 26, 2015
Baud
The Duchesses of Hazzard!
Mike J
Bork died in ’12, would have been replaced by Obama.
Replaced by Obama appointee. Still hoping Hillary gets to appoint him.
gf120581
Uh, Trump, Roberts was among the dissenting votes. Idiot.
SiubhanDuinne
Over the past hour or so, my Facebook friends have all started to go all rainbow-coloured.
It is a beautiful thing to see. I know it’s cheap and easy to toss up a ribbon for a disease, or put one’s entire feed in green to celebrate “democratic” elections, but — as we’ve learned this week re the Confederate Battle Flag — symbols are important, and they convey key messages.
So I have slapped a rainbow on my FB profile photo, and a dozen or more of my FB friends have done the same. They’ll mostly come down tomorrow, I expect, but it’s actually pretty nice to scroll down the wall and see that a great many friends and relations identify with the good guys.
the Conster
Watching Live From the White House – Darlene Love singing People Get Ready. GOOSEBUMPS #LoveWins
picking up passengers from coast to coast
rikyrah
If you want to record the Eulogy from the President, Maddow is going to have it on her show tonight.
jl
@gf120581:
‘ Uh, Trump, Roberts was among the dissenting votes. Idiot. ‘
Trump is just entering his GOP presidential primary career. He has to prove that he can get his facts wrong just as effortlessly as Jeb! and Bobby! and Huck!, and the rest.
So, yeah, he needs some more polish, but give him time. I think six weeks to first debate, he will do it better by then. No worries.
the Conster
@gf120581:
Yeah, this, wtf. Trump is a fucking clown’s clown.
raven
@jl: sex weeks is a long long time, GI
MazeDancer
Two 90 something women, in Iowa, who have been together for 72 years, got married today, in their wheelchairs.
May be the most tear-worthy moment of a remarkable day: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/08/ninety-year-old-gay-couple-marries-in-iowa?CMP=share_btn_tw
Though POTUS was mighty grand. As Mr. Charles Pierce said: “”He grabbed every live wire, unafraid.” Yes, he did.
New, easy access, high quality YouTube vid of full eulogy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK7tYOVd0Hs
jl
@efgoldman: Grifting off this will be sore temptation to put off dealing with the actual election in 2016, when Obama and the SCOTUS will not be on the ticket. I hope they show all the maturity and foresight that they have shown today and go for it.
Elizabelle
Is this PBS from the White House live? Cool.
I get chills seeing pics of White House in rainbow colors. Lovely evening in DC area. Would be cool to be there, looking at it.
jl
@raven: I corrected the typo. But I am sure a big man like Trump has plenty of sex weeks. I hope he talks about them at the debate.
raven
@jl: the quick and the dead!
Iowa Old Lady
I saw an image somewhere of Obama pointing toward the viewer and saying, “Have no fear. Your butthurt is covered by Obamacare.”
Baud
@Iowa Old Lady:
Heh
NonyNony
@efgoldman:
Oh I agree – the last two days are excellent fodder for the grifters. They will be making a shitload of money off the outrage and fear generated by the last couple of days.
It’s shit for most of the national GOP politicians, though. Especially for the ones who are serious about running for President.
Couldna happened to a nicer bunch of assclowns.
mobile amir khalid
When a state AG acts in defiance of SCOTUS, as one is threatening, who gets to put their boot up his ass?
Karen in GA
Iggy even had a bit to say about it. Iggy is smarter than all of the Republican candidates. But that’s not difficult to pull off.
the Conster
@Iowa Old Lady:
LOL. Want.
Baud
@mobile amir khalid:
New phone?
Betty Cracker
Assuming PBO’s eulogy for Rev. Pinckney is on YouTube. The mister wasn’t home when it was streamed so hasn’t seen it, and I’m looking forward to watching it again with him.
Fantastic speech. So proud to have worked my butt off twice to elect and reelect this man. Makes every sweltering hour of canvassing and registering voters and entering data SO worth it.
I’m on my way to Alabama tomorrow to look after my old granny, who is hospitalized after a fall. Sounds like she’ll be okay. It’ll be interesting to see how this week played in ‘Bama.
gf120581
Ted Cruz: “This is the darkest 24 hours in American history.”
Sean Hannity: “I…I couldn’t have said it more eloquently.”
Yes. Millions of people getting to keep their health care and happy couples in love being able to marry. Truly, this is Hell on Earth.
Normally I’m more eloquent, but right now, let me just say this to Teddy and the Angry Irish Ape Man:
Fuck you, you soulless pieces of shit.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Best wishes to granmama.
Mike in NC
Instead of listening to these yapping imbeciles crap themselves for the next 17 months, I wish we could just get it all over with and elect the first female president.
different-church-lady
Gotta hand it to Santorum: that’s a dude who knows how to troll!
Betty Cracker
@mobile amir khalid: Mobile Amir! Good to see you.
raven
@mobile amir khalid: How you feeling?
the Conster
When Jesus Say It Nobody Can Say No.
This is a tour de force full on black gospel put your hands together and say YEAH kind of day and night at the White House.
Now Rosa Parks, Ralph Abernathy and a Presbyterian hymn.
Karen in GA
@Betty Cracker: Hoping your grandma makes a speedy recovery.
NonyNony
Also can I just point out that anyone who compares this ruling to Plessy v. Ferguson – let alone Dredd Scott – is a giant gaping anal sore on the buttocks of humanity.
And I came to that conclusion before I noticed that it was Santorum that the quote was attributed to. So at least the giant pus sack of anal leakage is a consistent pus sack.
Tommy
Those pics and videos of same sex couples getting married, and really the ones like the Texas couple both in their 80s, that have waited a couple decades longer than I have been alive (I am 45) for this day to come, well my eyes leak a little. And that is pretty rare because I can be a little bit of a heartless, non-emotional asshole.
Here in IL we were not the first to allow legal same sex marriage via a bill passed by both our State House and Senate. But we did awhile back. In some of the “blue dog” districts, like I live in, there was concern about what would happen.
Dogs would lay down with cats. Up would turn to down. The end of the world was upon us. All the BS we heard today from the right but not at the same bat-shit-crazy-level.
About a week after it passed and there were no more pics in the local paper of the first same sex marriage here or there. No more stories on the local TV news, well I can’t recall ANYBODY, even the tea party dude that won my district, mentioned it during his campaign.
Funny, a week or so media blitz, then life just went back to normal. Nobody ever talks about it. There are not gay pride parades in my little rural town. The “gays” have not taken over our schools. The Catholic and other pretty conservative churches in the area are not being sued to marry same sex couples.
All this doom and gloom, well it didn’t happen of course!
the Conster
Emmylou Harris now. Full on roots.
Elizabelle
Leaning on the Everlasting Lord.
Reminds me of Night of the Hunter.
This is a more reassuring version. Love Emmylou.
Dave C
Okay, I’m just going to come out and admit it: I miss Andrew Sullivan, and I miss the Dish. It was good to see him come out of retirement, if only for a day–but what a day!
Elizabelle
@Tommy:
Shhhhhh. Our secret.
PsiFighter37
If this distracts the GOP candidates like a shiny ball and they all get to bray the loudest about how they will be the most anti-gay candidate, that is just icing on the cake.
What a great day. I usually avoid the pride parade because it gets so crowded and blocks traffic, but I may travel over one block and see what is sure to be a helluva celebration tomorrow afternoon, despite the rainy forecast.
Elizabelle
@Karen in GA: Love rainbow Iggy.
Anne Laurie
@jl:
Some of which he hasn’t even had to pay for… in advance.
You may be the only person holding that hope!
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Sex weeks?
ETA: OIC, jl’s typo. Late to the game as usual.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
I was born 2 years and 8 months before FDR died. Taking nothing away from the great things Mr Roosevelt did, Obama is still the best president of my lifetime.
Elizabelle
Lyle!
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: jj made a typo and I jumped on it like white on rice!
the Conster
@Elizabelle:
Lyle’s going gospel, amen!
fuckwit
Butthurt level meter upgraded to massive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpicUOJ9xL0
raven
@efgoldman: yup
Helen
@Karen in GA:
So you know how some women have “fantasy boyfriends?” Yeah. I have a “fantasy dog” He is Iggy.
That is all.
NonyNony
@Karen in GA:
After seeing the reactions from them from the past couple of days, I think there’s some fungus growing in my yard that is smarter than most of the Republican candidates.
@efgoldman:
Most of the candidates out there are not serious presidential candidates and they know it. They’re the grifters who are going to make a mint off this – the Huckster, for example, will probably be able to afford to retire from the contributors he milks this cycle.
Jeb! and his crew have to be terrified of this because he’s got nothin’ here. He’s got to toe the line so I suspect he goes all in but he has to know that this will kill him in the general.
Walker is a moron who appears to be surrounded by yes men and Koch worshipers. So I would not be surprised to find out that he thinks his calling for a Constitutional Amendment banning gay marriage is actually a winning strategery. He’s going to be surprised when his bubble gets burst and he finds out that it isn’t even a winning proposition in fucking Kansas. (Walker seems to be what you get if you take W and subtract both his charm and his idiot savant ability to run a presidential campaign. I keep waiting to see this master candidate that everyone in Wisconsin told me to be afraid of and he keeps acting like the punchline to a bad joke.)
Of the rest, Bobby Jindal and Lindsay Graham are the only ones I credit with actually thinking he’s a serious candidate. And Jindal is nuts – he’s going to lose so much money on this vanity run. I just hope his kids don’t suffer too much for his delusions. Graham is just a narcissitic moron of the John McCain variety but without McCain’s charm. The rest are just grifters who will make a goddamn mint off the outrage generated by their various fangroups.
(Kasich is damn lucky he hasn’t officially declared yet. In fact I now wonder if he’s been waiting for the shit to hit the fan on both of these SCOTUS decisions and for it to blow over a bit so he doesn’t have to be in the spotlight and say things he can’t take back later. He’s on record saying he’s “disappointed” but “will abide by the law of the land” and isn’t saying a bunch of stupid shit.)
geg6
@Dave C:
I feel guilty for saying this, but I do too.
Tommy
@Elizabelle: How about it, I will keep it to myself moving forward :). Got to let the Republicans running for POTUS keep saying all the stupid shit like they were saying today. Like another 9/11. Worse day in American history. Christ is coming back to smite us.
I know a lot of people that might not be 110% behind same sex marriage. Might be a little uncomfortable if two men kissed in front of them. Heck if it was on a ballot could vote against it.
But this over-the-top freakout and doom and gloom …..
As I’ve said here many times my mom is almost 70 and always voted Republican. She isn’t really pro-choice like myself and you are. But the Republicans with all the stupid shit they were saying about women and their sexuality in general made her change parties.
I wonder if there are not many more moderate Republicans and Independents that could maybe not be all-in-with same sex marriage, but the sheer over-the-top the end of the world is coming from the right might make them do the same.
Or at least I hope. A few 100,000 votes here or there will matter moving forward.
NotMax
@Anne Laurie
Betting he pays a heap more for those weeks than the $3 he claimed as outlay for a web site.
Felonius Monk
@efgoldman:
Aren’t those old racist Stephen Foster songs no longer considered de rigueur?
mobile amir khalid
@raven:
Good. I am going to be discharged in a few hours. The docs have adjusted my meds and are telling me to maintain. Zoptimal hydration this Ramadhan. Which ain ‘t easy, you know.
BillinGlendaleCA
@efgoldman: FDR also had a much more compliant Congress to work with.
geg6
@PsiFighter37:
One of my oldest friends went to NYC this weekend just for this. He put up a pic on FB of the scene in front of the Stonewall today. Had me in tears in my office all over again.
raven
@mobile amir khalid: Hang tough brah.
raven
@geg6: My friends who are banished in Sydney have had some great posts.
jl
@Anne Laurie:
” You may be the only person holding that hope! ”
I am prepared to make great sacrifices for the cause of hilarious disaster for the current GOP.
Karen in GA
@Helen: Iggy would be honored to be your invisible friend. (I imagine Fantasy Iggy isn’t nearly as shrieky, which is a plus.)
Elizabelle
@mobile amir khalid: Will you continue fasting?
Good to hear you’re heading home soon. Be well.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
@mobile amir khalid:
Yikes, are you okay, Amir? If you posted something saying, well, something, or anything, I managed to miss it! Hope all is well.
Baud
@mobile amir khalid:
I hadn’t heard. Take care of yourself.
BillinGlendaleCA
@mobile amir khalid: Didn’t know you were laid up, Amir. Sounds like the docs have things in order. Get well friend and follow the docs orders.
JPL
@mobile amir khalid: I saw that you had a scare on an earlier thread but I found it to late to comment. I’m glad that you are going home soon and please, take care of yourself.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Good to see I’m not the only one out of the loop.
SiubhanDuinne
@Tommy:
FWIW, you have never come across to me as either heartless or an asshole, and only occasionally as non-emotional.
Baud
I don’t see how Scott Walker wins the presidency in 2016 with his stance on a constitutional amendment to overturn today’s ruling.
raven
This CFL is like a Chinese Fire Drill!
Tommy
@efgoldman: MA has had same sex marriage longer than we have, but we’re still waiting here as well.
Somehow my district for the first time in 70 years elected a Republican. We in the same election elected a billionaire Republican as our Governor.
Maybe there was an ad or direct mailer I missed, but I don’t think either person mentioned same sex marriage ONCE!!!!!!!!!
I guess that is why the Republicans yell so loud about the ACA and same sex marriage. They know if it passes or stays in place (like with the ACA), and of course all the “doom and gloom” they use to “fire up their” their base and fundraise off of doesn’t occur, it will be another issue they can’t “own” and use to their own selfish desires.
Schlemazel
I’ll remind my Christian friends who are whining about putting the government before God of Roman 13 verse 1
New International version of the Bible
dubo
After Bush was appointed by the Supreme Court, I felt DARK. I was convinced that, right as I was graduating from college and starting my independent life and career, he was going to work hard to strip away any public support I would need.
And we on the left certainly complained about it. Oh, how we gnashed our teeth and fumed.
But I honestly don’t remember this kind of utter apocalyptic meltdown from anyone. And over what? Letting one dude get some property, visitation, inheritance, and social security rights with another dude?
What the frickin hell?
Mary G
@Dave C: I agree about Andy. People have yelled at me before on BJ for liking him, but he’s passionate and he can write like very few others. Yes, he is also capable of being a misogynistic asshole, also too.
BillinGlendaleCA
@SiubhanDuinne:
I aim to be Spock-like.
Tommy
@SiubhanDuinne: Well that is very nice of you to say. I am in-person the same person I am here in what I believe. But I find it is far, far easier, as sad as it is to say, to show emotion here then it is in my “real” life :).
SiubhanDuinne
@mobile amir khalid:
I don’t want to be nosy, but if you don’t mind saying, what’s going on? Are you okay?
raven
@dubo: “I honestly don’t remember this kind of utter apocalyptic meltdown from anyone. ”
You’re not from around here are you?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Schlemazel: There’s also “render unto Caesar…”, which doesn’t mean just pay your taxes.
geg6
@raven:
Such a long arc of justice! I remember a class I had in college about political movements ( ah, the life of a poli sci major!) where we had to write a paper about a movement that fizzled or was just emerging. I had thought to write about the Wobblies, but ran across a book about Stonewall. My first introduction to the gay rights movement. Changed how I thought completely. Needless to say, that’s what I ended up writing about. My prof loved it and gave me an A+. This was in the early 80s, before even AIDS or Larry Kramer. Seemed impossible then. I still can’t believe I lived to see this day.
SiubhanDuinne
@Tommy:
Well, I do think we all (okay, mostly) show various intensities and emotions to the different people in our lives. I suspect my siblings would describe me rather differently than the Balloon Juice crowd would, which in turn would be different from the way my former colleagues see me. But yes, it seems to be easier to be emotionally honest here at BJ than in real life. Curious, that.
Chris
@efgoldman:
Circumstances make presidents, as much as the other way around. I agree that Lincoln and FDR are the only presidents in later eras that rise to Founding Father level, but they were also each reacting to unique and extraordinary circumstances that gave them opportunities other presidents didn’t have. I don’t rank the Obama era on the same level as the FDR era, but then Obama didn’t have the depth, width and intensity of public support that FDR did. Conversely, if FDR had been president in another era, he wouldn’t have been FDR, not as we know him.
raven
Oh boy, the local news weenies are on this. “While the ruling only applies to the US, people all over the world celebrated”!!! No fucking shit.
Then they had one 15 second positive story and now all these fucking baptist assholes crying.
NotMax
@Tommy
>
So you get your very own mini Scott Brown? ;)
SiubhanDuinne
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Yes, this. Not always, of course, but overall, I think that makes a big difference.
jl
@dubo:
‘ And over what? Letting one dude get some property, visitation, inheritance, and social security rights with another dude? ‘
Well, yeah, Two same sex people who have been living together down the street as ‘special friends’ or open out about their relationship, will continue to live together down the street, except now both will have well defined rights and responsibilities regarding property, visitation, inheritance, and social security.
Clearly an abomination in the eyes of the Christian God.
Nothing is going to happen and nothing is going to change. As a commenter said above, it is not like this is some radical social experiment never attempted before.
So, if they are going to go apeshit on electing a president just to appoint enough justices to overturn this, or a Congress to get an ammendment going, only their nutso base is going to care. As I said earlier,I bet a third of the current opposition will not care a rat’s ass about it by the time election comes. And take away that, you have the mystic 27 percent.
Baud
@efgoldman:
Yeah, and shame on us. Democrats have to justify their behavior from 1972, but the GOP can take any position they want now and it’s ok as long as they’re not too in-your-face about it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Felonius Monk:
Doo dah.
Doo dah.
Oh doo dah day.
BillinGlendaleCA
@efgoldman: They did talk about it after if first became legal, shit they amended the state constitution by initiative(Prop H8). But you’re right, after the SCOTUS decision in 2013, not so much.
jl
@NonyNony: Problem with Kasich, I’ve read, is that he has massively disrespected the Koch borthers and other GOP big money people. And the GOP primary base will be slobbering over Huck and Trump and etc.
So, who will be his base of support? Ol’ Reince and the RNC drones? Is that worth anything anymore? (honest question, I just wonder what kind of support Kasich will have to grind out a long campaign of attrition).
raven
@geg6: I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night, alive as you or me. . .
Villago Delenda Est
Is it at all possible that Trump was either referring to yesterday’s Obamacare decision, OR he was saying that Roberts was wrong to dissent on today’s DOMA decision?
Just tossing that out there as possible interpretations of his comment. Since he wasn’t very specific about it.
Also, too, Hucksterbee can suck my veteran dick. In a very heterosexual sort of way, of course.
Tommy
@dubo:
Yes, yes, yes ……
A few of the liberal blogs I follow daily have started to ask this question. Sure we were pissed off. We yelled. We were mad.
But that was a 5-4 SCOTUS decision as well and we didn’t even get into the parking lot, much less the stadium of the stuff that was put out today not by the fringe of the right, but almost everyone of their Presidental candidates.
Frankly I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around it all. It is two people getting married.
Clearly I can’t really stand S.E. Cupp, but I found this video of her today on CNN to be one of the best I saw.
She almost breaks down crying, and keep in mind she is a card carrying Republican, saying how great of a day this is and she just can’t understand why others in her party don’t understand gays don’t want same sex marriage to destroy it, but because they want a union of love like everybody else has.
Anne Laurie
@mobile amir khalid: Glad to hear you’re doing better!
And I’m pretty sure I’ve seen reputable religious authorities agree that Ramadan fasting does not trump medical issues. You have a doctor’s note, do not let ingrained social-piety issues put your health at risk (says the woman raised by Irish Catholics, who are masters at that particular form of narcissism).
raven
@geg6: I was a language course away from a poli-sci degree when I went back to school in the wake of my broken back. My DVR counselor said, “what you gonna do with that, go to law school?” He urged me to go into something I could get a job in and that’s how I spent two decades running municipal athletic programs!
Baud
Kay & Peele on gay marriage (h/t Reddit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jitocz4kB3k
raven
@Villago Delenda Est: I just re-watched Generation Kill and it is fucking hilarious how homophobic and racist they are all the while laughing it up and sweatin each other.
Emma
@Betty Cracker: as well as you can expect. Clerks are going crazy shutting down their offices and CJ Moore is having logorrhea.
Bobby Thomson
@Villago Delenda Est:
His cover will be that he was talking about the King decision, but no. He’s just an idiot. It will be interesting to see if that is any sort of handicap in the Republican primaries, or if the voters just follow along with whatever spews out of his head.
NotMax
@raven
You could have been the left’s Lee Atwater or Roger Ailes!
But I keed…
:)
raven
@NotMax: It was a weird time. I have always said breaking my back and forcing me to go back to school was one of the best things that ever happened to me.
Brachiator
@mobile amir khalid: I did not know that you were having medical issues. It is good to hear that you are on the mend. Take care.
Mr Stagger Lee
Forgive me for being O/T but just coming in from work and watching President Obama, doing the eulogy, I think that was his finest moment, and one of the times I glad I voted for him.
O/T part two, I hope one day the statue of the notorious racist Pitchfork Ben Tilman is torn down and replaced by Clementa Pickney.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Mr Stagger Lee: One of the MANY TIMES I glad I voted for him. (Mea Culpa)
jl
@efgoldman:
” CBS noted tonight how quickly it simply disappeared as an issue in each state where ssm was adopted. Nobody in MA talks about it anymore, except in a historical context; nobody in RI talks about it all except the bishop. Nobody in CA (they said) talks about it either. It’s just unremarkable. Which I suppose is the best outcome of all. ”
When I go to some very conservative familial stomping grounds in Central Valley CA, I never ever hear about it. Not even when I am exposed to conservative fundie church functions. Maybe same sex marriage can’t compete with obsessing over women’s reproductive rights, women’s rights in general and panic over abortion. I don’t remember anyone ever even mentions the topic of same-sex marriage.
I don’t think anyone outside the GOP primary base will even think about it, so more time GOP prez hopefuls waste on it, the better for 2016. I hope they go crazy.
Tommy
@NotMax: Yes, but not as good looking :). He went around the state in an old beat down bus (not a red pick-up truck) and said he was a person of the people while he spent more money than the incumbent by about 3-1.
If there is ever a video link to follow here, please follow this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhbRcDZiJJc
This dude, bat-shit-crazy, became the first Republican to win my House seat in 70 years. He will be one term I can tell you that.
David Koch
David Koch
(Photo) White House lit in rainbow colors
NotMax
@Tommy
Here’s hoping. Bat sh*t crazy ain’t the millstone it used to be.
mobile amir khalid
@Anne Laurie:
You heard right, one need not fast if medically unfit. I will take that option for the next few days, and then I will see how I. feel.
Omnes Omnibus
@mobile amir khalid: @raven: What raven said.
Tommy
@David Koch: Watching Real Time on HBO. OK I am not happy about the vote on Fast Track, but if this wasn’t one of the better weeks a POTUS has had, you know maybe outside of Appomattox or MacArthur having Japan surrender, well it sure has to be up there.
That is what Bill asked ….
jl
@mobile amir khalid: not sure what is up with you, but best wishes and hope you feel better soon. Get well quick!
raven
Aite, I’m getting sleepy and my bride, her sis and niece are down at Athefest! I told them to have a good time and I’d come get them when they are done but, damn.
Elizabelle
@David Koch: Chills down my back.
Jim Parish
@Mike J: Remember that Kennedy was the swing vote and wrote the opinions in Romer v. Evans and Lawrence v. Texas, two essential predecessors to Obergefell v. Hodges. (He also wrote the opinion in U.S. v. Windsor, but as you say Bork was dead by then.)
Randy P
@Betty Cracker:
We followed a link from the front page of whitehouse.gov. The link we followed took us to about 1:22 of a 2-hour YouTube of the entire service, which was where PBO’s eulogy began. We hung on for the final prayer which followed the eulogy, which was also pretty moving.
The whitehouse.gov link now takes you to a video that just shows the eulogy, about 37 minutes long.
p.a.
@Tommy: ef and my US Congressman is a proudly gay, half-Italian, half-Jewish son of a Mafia lawyer. (Proudly Italian and Jewish too, I assume)
NotMax
@David Koch
Pleasant change from the usual lighting up in the colors of the Kenyan flag.
:)
Poopyman
@BillinGlendaleCA: Same here! Glad to see whatever it was is stabilized. Allusions to glucose(?) level from fasting perhaps?
raven
The local news has a piece with the two guys who got married in Texas after 50 years. The one man said “We just didn’t want to much things”.
Splitting Image
@mobile amir khalid:
As per Barry Goldwater, everyone in the country.
Randy P
@Randy P: Here is the complete long-form Clementa Pinckney funeral service, for those interested. This video is 7 hours (!) long. PBO is introduced at about 4:51:40.
David Koch
@NotMax: No kidding. For a Muslim he sure is one smooth Baptist preacher.
Steve in the ATL
@raven:
I majored in the equally useless history, then I went to law school because I’m not large enough to coach high school football
NotMax
Trying to remember –
Was it some politician in North Carolina or South Carolina who warned Obama to watch his back if he ever set foot in the state?
Tommy
@p.a.: Interesting …..
Here is a little story I don’t think I have told here. I am 45. Straight. Never married. Dare I say fit and good looking. Educated. Make a lot of money.
Maybe if I wasn’t somewhat OCD and with some emotional issues, well I’d be married and have this “perfect” family. Or at least that is what all the people, this huge family my brother married into, thought.
So I had to be gay. Nothing new to me. I am more than a little “metro-sexual” for lack of a better word and I’ve been hit on my far more men in my life then women :). Never bothered me in the least, flattered actually, because I am comfortable with my sexuality.
I told me brother to let them all think I was not only a liberal but also gay. I was curious how they’d treat me as a group of people that still don’t think Obama is an American.
They were all total wimps and kind of worthless. They talked behind my back but could never confront me. Said terrible things but so polite face-to-face.
Then after almost two years my brother and I told them I wasn’t gay.
Family events are, well interesting. Oh and they seem to not want me around their drunk, 27 year-old daughter, that looks like she might have come off the cover of Vogue. Or mug shot on TMZ :).
Karen in GA
@mobile amir khalid: Sending healing thoughts, and hope for an easy, quick recovery.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: When I decided to get out of recreation I took the LSAT. I could have gotten in Mercer or one of the smaller one’s in Atlanta but not UGA so I went another direction. Actually Kennedy was one of my brother’s con law prof’s at McGeorge.
MomSense
@mobile amir khalid:
Hope you are feeling much better.
raven
@efgoldman: Who is/was the mayor of North Providence when I came there for my unit reunion two years ago? Dude was Joe Pesci for sure.
NotMax
@efgoldman
Isn’t that sort of traditional by now?
Goitta be newsworthy when the higher up the ladder ones in RI aren’t indicted.
MomSense
@Betty Cracker:
Hope she recovers quickly!
raven
@NotMax: Youse are tinkin about Chicago.
Elizabelle
@Tommy: Funny.
dogwood
I don’t know how front and center marriage will be in the next election, but I suspect it won’t be much of an issue. Remember all the public outrage over the repeal of DADT? Me neither. It’s not unlike the collective shrug Obama received from the public when he announced we would begin to normalize relations with Cuba.
raven
@efgoldman: Dis guy.
NotMax
@raven
In Chicago it’s not just a tradition, it’s an art form.
the Conster
@Villago Delenda Est:
LOL. Huckabee would like that. He’s always getting things rammed down his throat, why not your veteran dick?
Omnes Omnibus
@Villago Delenda Est:
You’ll catch something. Remember: no glove, no love.
NotMax
@raven
Worst. Slave auction. Ever.
;)
Steve in the ATL
@raven: I didn’t have a future mediocre Supreme Court justice, but I did have REM’s lawyer!
Mercer, Emory, or Georgia State can be fine depending on what you want to do. We have two Emory guys in our legal department. But I loved my three years in Athens. UGA was widely considered the Harvard of Clarke county.
And sorry Augie but I also loved my undergrad years at W&L. We weren’t all racist trust fund assholes. You’d be impressed by how many of my classmates are celebrating the gay marriage decision.
Gin & Tonic
@raven: Charles Lombardi.
Jeffro
Semi or mostly OT but I’m sitting here wondering: what exactly will a GOP candidate run on in 2020 (’cause they sure aren’t going to do it in 2016) if they a) had any sort of moral compass and/or b) recognized the way the country had shifted after these past couple SCOTUS decisions and the massive shift on climate change?
Crazy-compassionate Conservatism? Some sort of “I love all Americans, all immigrants, all colors/creeds/orientations – and I’d like to see government give back a lot more instead of taking so much tax money, writing so many job-killing regulations, etc”? I don’t think they have anything to run on after this. (And no, this is not me saying let’s rest on our laurels). I’m just saying, if the tide has shifted on health care, climate change, and gay marriage, what exactly does the GOP run on in 2020 and beyond?
Tommy
@Elizabelle: Yes it was “fun” and “funny” to play with them. And I can’t stress how freaked out they were when they found out I was straight, because their daughter/granddaughter Jessica, the drunk, seems to like me a lot.
She is “smoking hot” but I got two issues. One she is kind of family. Two, I tend to like to date women my age. I’ve done the dating some lady that could be young enough to be my kid if I started to have kids at 18-20. That never worked out well :).
This might be IMI but I find sex is sex a few times. Then if the person can’t engage me, talk to me, make me laugh, not as much fun.
Steve in the ATL
@Jeffro: tax cuts.
NotMax
@Jeffro
Pray for extraterrestrials to land and demand inter-species marriage?
NotMax
@Jeffro
In all seriousness, they’ll whip up an enemy on whom to focus fear and hatred. It’s what they do.
Tommy
@Jeffro: Interesting question. IMHO they will do what they have done since I’ve been a voting adult @ 1988. They will double down and say they were not “conservative” enough. Move to the right more.
They keep doing it election after election. Works on the local level where they can control the Districts and the primaries, but not in a Presidental election.
I keep thinking to myself they can’t go further right, and then they do. Look at a site like Daily Kos or Talking Points Memo, heck here where they have quotes from those running for the Republican nomination and the quotes are so off-the-chart I don’t have words for it.
It isn’t they are mad and think the SCOTUS decision was wrong, they want to change how our government works. They think it is the worse day or another 9/11. WTF!
If they lose, and they will unless we can’t find out asses with our hands in the dark, they will say there is one reason. They were not true enough to their core beliefs.
And we win another Presidental election ……
Gin & Tonic
@Jeffro: War.
dogwood
@Jeffro:
Benghazi!
Ken
@NonyNony:
Well, maybe Kansas. But Iowa has had same-sex marriage for six years now, and it now has majority support in the polls – the opposition has dropped to near the magic 27%. And Iowa is kind of important in the Presidential nominations process, though of course the people who show up for the Republican caucuses might draw heavily from that 27%.
Gin & Tonic
@Tommy: Your comment about “they can’t go further right” made me look something up. The first Presidential election campaign I have decent memory of is 1964. The Goldwater/Miller ticket was essentially the embodiment of wingnut thought at the time. They were considered crazy conservative, and they got crushed by LBJ. Here are a few bullet points from the Republican platform adopted at the 1964 convention:
Jeffro
@Gin & Tonic: Wow…that is enlightening to say the least.
I don’t see where they go except trying to pound on religious/’conscientious objector’-type rights & arguments in the face of all these headwinds. I mean, they have tried just about every arrow in the quiver at this point. The country is already redistricted R for maximum effect, and restrictive voting laws have already passed where they could. Maybe next we will see an even stronger effort to get swing states’ electoral votes apportioned by turnout instead of winner-take-all, but other than that?
p.a.
@Gin & Tonic: at work we used to refer to
NorthNort Providence and Johnston as ‘Ooh-Fah City’ or ‘The Fanabla Valley’. Anyone with New England Italian relatives should understand.Anne Laurie
@NotMax:
IIRC, that was Jesse Helms warning that gay-soldier-loving Bill Clinton away from “his” prop’ty.
NotMax
@Anne Laurie
Thank you. Now that you mentioned that, it all comes flooding back like the hot kiss on the end of a wet fist.
TS
@BillinGlendaleCA:
The only thing that revived the economy was a major war – after many long years of pain – and a war time President is always going to be remembered well if the war is won and the peace is fair. He also had the benefit of white privilege (whether he knew it or not).
Not to take anything from FDR but he is coming second to BHO.
mclaren
LOL. You would’ve thought Washington’s retreat at Valley Forge was the “darkest 24 hours in this nation’s history.” Or maybe the Confederates opening fire on Fort Sumter. Or Pearl Harbor. Or 9/11.
But no, it’s gay marriage. Go figure.
mclaren
@Jeffro:
Oh, I see where the movement conservatives go farther right from here. I see exactly where they go. They go full-on 1820s.
Repeal of the 14th amendment, legalization of human slavery (but let’s include white folks this time, too, especially white folks indebted up to their eyeballs with college loans and 30% interest credit cards), shooting poor people on sight, criminalization of poverty (already mainly accomplished), debtors’ prisons (now revived and spreading fast), privatization of prisons and fire departments and K-12 education, legalization of child labor, expansion of the prison-industrial complex.
Then the movement conservatives will move on to restricting voting rights. No wimmens, no dusky folks, and re-adoption of the original proprty ownership requirements prior to Andrew Jackson — ya gotta own land in order to vote in these You Nighted States.
They don’t just want the Confederate States of America, they want Rome. With slaves. And crucifixion.
Original Lee
@Elizabelle: I also like Emmylou’s version better. But to be fair, the version in Night of the Hunter was not intended to be reassuring.
Lurking Canadian
I was tied up parenting all day yesterday and didn’t get a chance to post anything, but I’m kind of drunk on all the good news. These stories of senior citizens finally able to marry after being together for decades…’Scuse me…got something in my eye. BRB
Marcion
@mclaren:
Oooookay, if you say so.