Fifty years ago our embassies have been closed for basically stupid reasons. Finally, as of a couple days ago and thanks to tireless work by Obama and John Kerry we can, you know, talk with that largish country 90 miles south of Key West. This calls for some azuca.
Bleg time! I could keep running favorite cuban salsa tunes all week, but I know more or less nothing about music from Iran. If you have a favorite sound from that region, whether it’s Persian traditional music or a Kiss cover band in Ishtafan, post a link and I’ll put some in future threads.
Chat about whatevs.
JPL
What about reparations though? Reparations are not for black Americans or Palestinians though because.
Tim F.
@JPL: They already reopened the embassy, which means we have moved past the deal breakers part of the conversation. Cuba won’t get reparations and those Republican voters in south Florida probably won’t get their stuff back either.
khead
When are the casinos opening? I’m asking for a friend.
lamh36
In preparation of POTUS trip to Kenya…
Siaya grannies learn English ahead of Obama’s visit
https://youtu.be/GH5RSHPio9k
Origuy
Some good news about bats. Seventy-five bats treated successfully for White Nose Syndrome have been released in Missouri. The key was a bacterium that kills the fungus, which was being tested to keep bananas from rotting.
Cervantes
@Tim F.:
You may be aware that Celia Cruz was one of “those Republican voters in south Florida.”
Still and all, her music was great, I agree.
lamh36
Op-Ed by POTUS in advance of his Kenya trip
Africa’s Progress Is Good for America http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2015/07/president_obama_writes_that_africa_s_progress_is_good_for_america.html via @TheRoot
lamh36
lamh36
Baud
@lamh36:
Rachel is breaking this now.
Gin & Tonic
I posted last night about a friend of mine, if anyone was reading. Getting accurate information from a war zone thousands of miles away is understandably difficult. As it stands, though, people I know and am in regular contact with have spoken to him today; he underwent surgery for chest wounds but is not considered to be in life-threatening condition at this point. We are thankful for that, at least. Second-hand information yesterday was not that good.
Mike in NC
Celia Cruz not related to future president Ted?
Oh well, normalizing relations with Cuba and Iran means American companies will net billions of dollars in profits. Suck on it, wingnuts.
pseudonymous in nc
For Iranian-Kurdish music, you can get a lot out of the Kamkar family.
mtiffany
@Origuy:
Now if we can just save the bees… stop ocean acidification… ice mass loss in the arctic and antarctic… then we might be able to tackle some pressing problems. One step at a time.
Iowa Old Lady
Obviously things are still in confusion, no who knows.
Cervantes
@Gin & Tonic:
Was not reading, sorry; am barely reading now.
Which war-zone?
Diana
There have been movies about the underground Iranian music scene. The only one I can find via the Google however is “no one knows about Persian cats” but there are others. The only problem is that from what I can remember the music wasn’t memorable.
Cervantes
@Iowa Old Lady:
Is that Amy Schumer’s movie?
Redshift
@Baud: Crap, that’s where my sister lives. I just saw the breaking news alert on Rachel.
Diana
@Origuy: That is good news. I want to start a movement to bring bats back to cities; they eat insects, don’t they?
Gin & Tonic
@Cervantes: In the vicinity of Donetsk.
JPL
@lamh36: CBSN.com is streaming it live.
Redshift
@Gin & Tonic: That’s good to hear. The people I know in Ukraine aren’t in the east, so they’re okay for now at least.
Iowa Old Lady
@Cervantes: Yes, it is.
You all will be relieved to know that Bobby Jindal tweeted he’s on his way there.
mtiffany
Don’t have a clue about Iranian singers, but an actress I’m quite partial to is Iranian-born Shohreh Aghdashloo. She’s been in just about every media form — tv (live action and animated [Simpsons]), films, video games. Even if you haven’t seen her in something, you’ve probably heard her voice.
Redshift
@Diana: Are they gone from cities? I live in the inner DC suburbs, and I see them pretty often.
And yes, they do eat insects.
Cervantes
@Gin & Tonic:
Thanks. Sorry he was injured. Glad he is recovering.
Is he an active combatant in some way or was he a by-stander?
JPL
@Iowa Old Lady: Why? Is he going to have a prayer service?
Baud
@Iowa Old Lady:
I wonder how quickly he’ll blame Obama for this.
lamh36
Is this another murder-suicide?
murder – suicide incidents are becoming more frequent it seems? Or more being reported.
Wasn’t it last week when the mistress killed the wife of the man she was cheating with and then killed herself?
http://t.co/f12kgjYQHs
Iowa Old Lady
@JPL: Direct quote from Bobby’s most recent tweet:
So yeah.
ThresherK (GPad)
@Origuy: I thought that one compound was the answer to white nose syndrome abd also banana blight.(http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-04/banana-killer-on-the-march-fuels-risk-of-fruit-s-next-extinction)
Ah, well. I’ll gladly take saving the bats. I actually have a nephew studying them out West.
Gin & Tonic
@Cervantes: He was a medic with a volunteer battalion – what in another time and place might be termed a “well-regulated militia.”
Cervantes
@Iowa Old Lady:
Robert Penn Warren wept.
Eric S.
@mtiffany: yes, yes, yes. In the short term the bees worry me the most. It may not be the appropriate ranking but that’s how I do it.
Steeplejack (phone)
Ta-Nehisi Coates scheduled on The Daily Show tonight.
JPL
It does sound like a lot were injured. Someone went into the theater and opened fire.
mtiffany
@Eric S.:
If only it were possible that everything could be the highest priority simultaneously.
schrodinger's cat
Don’t know much about Persian, but I love to hear Urdu poetry, which was heavy Persian influences. Persian was one of the court languages of the Mughal court in Delhi.
So only tangentially related to Iran, but a great song:
Chaiyaa Chaiyaa. One of A R Rahman’s best numbers, inspired by Sufi poetry.
lamh36
@Iowa Old Lady: White people are out of control…when will white people do something about this white on white violence…said no one ever!
I’m in NOLA of course, about 2 hours from Lafayette….
JPL
@lamh36: A few years ago, an older white guy started screaming at a lady in front of us because she got a text. After the movie, my friend and I breathed a sigh of relief that he didn’t have a gun.
Mike in NC
Is Jindal the worst sack of shit in the GOP Klown Kar? Wishes he was whiter than Dinesh D’Stupid.
lamh36
I see some of NRA folk talking about The Grand being a “gun free zone”. Who thinks it’s a good idea to let someone have a gun in a dark crowded theatres?
Like the lights will automatically come on so someone with a gun can aim and shoot…please…jeebus!
schrodinger's cat
@schrodinger’s cat: Urdu has, not was. WP won’t let me edit my comment.
JPL
@lamh36: It sounds like he killed himself.
lamh36
@JPL: Yeah. so far that’s what’s being reported.
JPL
@lamh36: If he’s white then it’s depression or something.
georg
Pomegranates is an excellent comp of music from 60s/70s Iran
http://www.finderskeepersrecords.com/shop/pomegranates/
Here’s a clip of the amazing Googoosh
https://youtu.be/lspH0xvULoY
On a more contemporary tip, here’s a clip from Niyaz
https://youtu.be/Zl4Xq-CSbFk
And here’s an amazing collaboration between Iranian Kurdish musician/composer and American string quartet
https://youtu.be/8WzIxBeJ78U
mtiffany
@JPL:
Since a white man murdered a bunch of people prepare to spend the next few days listening to talk of black-on-black crime and the moral deficencies of the negro sub-culture. “The shooter may have been white, but there’s evidence he may have been exposed to some rap lyrics emanating from a passing car driven by a blah teenager. What do you think Brian?”
“Well Elizabeth, I think Jesus would have had a gun, and he would have shot back. Jesus was a good man. I love Jesus. But he wasn’t black. We know that he was white because he wrote the Bible in English. Up next on Fox and Friends, gay marriage, and why you need a gun to defend yourself from the faggots that are coming to take away your 8 year old son, so they can fuck him in the ass.”
Cervantes
@mtiffany:
O ye of little faith.
Not only is it possible, I’m told Bernie Sanders is working on such a list right now as we speak.
Tree With Water
The Manchester Guardian.com has posted a story that begins, “George W Bush and Bill Clinton have revealed how they started to grow close, to the point where Bush has taken to calling his Democratic predecessor his “brother from another mother”.
Any friend of a war criminal is no damn good as a person.
Cervantes
@Mike in NC:
Re (1) I wouldn’t say so; and re (2) How do you know?
@schrodinger’s cat:
That is a beautiful song, thanks.
khead
I’m in moderation for ca$ino? I need a refresher on the rules around here.
PsiFighter37
Don’t give two shits who shot who in the heart of the Deep South. We should’ve let those fuckers go and never looked back.
PF37 +3 and deeply, deeply cynical about how things will play out once the black man leaves the White House
JPL
@mtiffany: It was even worse than that. Before the movie started, an elderly couple came in and the companion or husband kept yelling at the female to move faster. She was shuffling from parkinson’s or a stroke, I don’t know which. We actually discussed trying to get a license number to call family services. I’ve never been back to that theater.
JPL
@khead: If you type a forbidden word put ca then the italic symbol, then the italic symbol and sino..
I’m not sure if this make sense.. but here.. casino
somethingblue
No expert on this, but I have a couple of CDs by Mohammad Reza Shajarian that are outstanding.
We should all know a lot more than we do about Iranian culture.
JPL
How come they can’t say how many fatalities?
Tim F.
@schrodinger’s cat:
1. So THAT is where the song comes from. Inside Man was great.
2. The song is so damn infectious. I had the chorus in my head for weeks last month.
3. I can’t believe they shot that on a real moving train. Indians be crazy.
Tim F.
@JPL: It happened what, half an hour ago? They need to stabilize the wounded before anyone knows a number like that.
Mike J
@JPL: We don’t even know yet if the shooter was white and disturbed, black and a thug, or brown and a terrorist. How can we worry about the injured until then?
Gin & Tonic
@khead: Only some of us can say casino. CASINO!
/evil laugh
Kropadope
@mtiffany: I don’t know what was worse, what you wrote or its plausibility?
ETA: Actually, wasn’t that first part real?
JPL
@Mike J: Pretty sure he was white and older, although now they are saying middle age.
Percysowner
Well Texas just gets worse and worse on the Sandra Bland case. Daily Kos has a clip of the interview Lawrence O’Donnell had with her sister and the family attorney. Having released bits and pieces of the autopsy and then allowing the family to bring her body back home, the DA then texted them and told them the autopsy was “defective” and could they please truck her body back to Texas so they can do another one and maybe get it right this time. After hearing it on O’Donnell’s show, the DA called and said that the autopsy was fine and they didn’t need another one. The sister had her phone and showed O’Donnell the text saying they blew the first one, so who knows what the heck is going on,
Cervantes
@georg:
Thanks!
JPL
@Mike J: Well at least it wasn’t terrorism. Just an ordinary shooting.
schrodinger's cat
@Tim F.: That’s a narrow gauge train, that moves pretty slowly, but still.
mtiffany
@Cervantes:
I would hope so. He has a lot to answer for. How on earth could anyone of good conscience refuse to say the three words that would instantly and magically free an entire group of people from all forms of oppression in perpetuity? Shameless.
Cervantes
@mtiffany:
“We shall overcome”?
mtiffany
@Percysowner:
I’m going to put my money on “a motherfucking cover up to protect some guilty-ass, corrupt-as-sin police officers who murdered a woman while she was in custody.” Any takers?
Gian
@JPL:
I flipped from MSNBC to CNN
CNN covered the news conference while LOD and the speculators were speculating.
58 year old male, he killed two, shot 9 others and killed himself. I think 3 were in critical
wasabi gasp
Iran is a country I gave up on during my late night youtube journeys. This might have a lot to do with that. The one Iranian band I did have bookmarked was victim to murder-suicide in Brooklyn a year or two ago: The Yellow Dogs – This City
wasabi gasp
To the very end.
Celia Cruz – José Caridad
Brachiator
Republican insiders hopeful that this can be used to combat the similar condition, Trump Noise Syndrome.
Brachiator
@schrodinger’s cat:
Fun song. The video, also cool. Even though the train was moving slow, yikes!
I see that the film Dil Se that the music and video from was a big hit in England:
benw
@mtiffany: What odds are you offering? Because I’d put a lot of money on “the cops just killed her” even at 100-1.
dogwood
I don’t know anything about Persian music, but “A Separation” is one of the best films of this decade. And if Americans were force to watch the delightful Iranian film, “Children of Paradise”, they wouldn’t be so jacked up about bombing the shit out of them.
confitesprit
Tim F: I really enjoy the music of Ghazal. You could find more info here – and here – http://www.allmusic.com/artist/ghazal-mn0000654910/biography
Tree With Water
Hmmmm. Favorite piece of Iranian music. You know, I’m going to have to get back to you on that.
Another Holocene Human
@lamh36: They don’t have to, because they control the money. They already spend thousands on white-on-white crime. Huge organizations were formed to try to prevent and intervene in gendered white on white crime. White is unmarked, everyone else is marked. Cops, prosecutors, and city commissions don’t see it as their duty to investigate, solve, and intervene in crimes where whites are not the victims.
Tenar Darell
Know nothing of Persian/Iranian music, but listening a lot to the Moroccan singer Yasmine Hamdan. Found her here Hal via the movie Only Lovers Left Alive.
A guy
How old are u tim f.?
oldswede
The late Freddy Mercury of the band Queen was the son of Iranian ex-patriates. His birth name was Farrokh Bulsara.