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For those that you want to watch a real comedian instead of the clowns on Fox this is open thread for the last Daily Show.

Personally this is the last night of my youth as Stewart was the political background noise from before I could legally vote to the despair of the Bush error through the hope of ’09 and the five years of WTFness.

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  3. 3.

    oldster

    Yeah, there were days under Bush II when I despaired. Josh Marshall bucked me up, and so did Jon Stewart.

    Thanks, Jon.

  4. 4.

    srv

    A new era is coming, and a Trump Presidency will be far more entertaining and good for America than Stewart’s negativity. Even he gets it, and knows when it is time to move on. For that, I can respect him.

  5. 5.

    Marmot

    1. I can’t believe you’re really that much younger than me.
    2. Which five years? I realize that’s probably a daft question.

  9. 9.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I hope they’re keeping the TDS crew. Jessica Williams and Hassan Minhaj are as good as anybody they’ve ever had (Colbert IMO really became Colbert when he got his own show).

  13. 13.

    Chris

    Personally this is the last night of my youth as Stewart was the political background noise from before I could legally vote to the despair of the Bush error through the hope of ’09 and the five years of WTFness.

    Exactly!

    No more Colbert and no more Stewart? These guys kept an entire generation sane through the horror of the Bush years and the teabagger madness that ensued. It really is the end of an era.

    Eventually, another Republican will be in the White House. How the hell am I going to cope without these two, whenever that is?

  14. 14.

    Bobby B.

    I started watching when Kilborne was host., then returned to it when I got cable again 5 years ago. Don’t miss Kilborne but whatever happened to Beth Littleford?

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Bobby B.: She pops up on TV from time to time. I always liked A Whitney Brown, and Frank DeCaro’s Out At The Movies.

    It would have been classy of Stewart to have Lizz Winstead and Madeleine Smithburg on as he wound it down.

  17. 17.

    Mike in NC

    Gave up on TDS about two years ago. Too much of the media’s “both sides do it” bullshit. Stewart always fluffed scum like Dick Armey and Jim DeMint.

  21. 21.

    NonyNony

    @Bobby B.:

    Don’t miss Kilborne but whatever happened to Beth Littleford?

    As the father of a 7 year old I can tell you that Beth Littleford is on a Disney Channel sitcom about a talking dog that blogs.

    I am sad that I know this, actually.

  23. 23.

    LanceThruster

    “The Rude Pundit remembers when Jon Stewart took over The Daily Show because he had been thoroughly enjoying the program with Craig Kilborn hosting (Colbert and Carell were already correspondents) and was a bit pissed at this pretender to the louche, smarmy Kilborn’s seat. […] When Stewart finally settled into his role, when he took the show as his own and molded it into the truth-telling, Swiftian, Twainian, Carlinian machine it became, no viewer, including this one, ever thought about Kilborn again.”

    Random Thoughts on the End: Another Goddamn Jon Stewart Tribute

  24. 24.

    Kropadope

    @Mike in NC:

    Too much of the media’s “both sides do it” bullshit.

    This. Problem seemed to be that he didn’t know what to do about Obama right around the same time the GOP flipped its shit worse than ever. So, sometimes he tried too hard to take Obama down a peg in the name of “balance.”

    Still, love the show long time.

  25. 25.

    Morzer

    Is Jon Stewart the tall guy without one hand who is doing the nasty with his sister? Or is he the dark-haired boy that red-head keeps saying “Knows nothin’ “?

    I am so behind on my popular culture.

  28. 28.

    Calliope Jane

    Huh. Me, too. It really is an end of an era. I started watching with Kilborne, loved it with Jon and it really did help keep me sane. I haven’t had the same attachment since Stewart said he would have voted/given serious consideration to McCain in ’00 (was it the railing against MLK Day in AZ or the pandering to SC and that flag that said presidential material?) but 2 shows really stick out for me–
    The night after the ’00 election: “We didn’t mean it literally with Indecision 2000!” I remember going to class and we were all shellshocked– and quoting Stewart.
    The other night was the first show back after 9/11.
    Getting his and the show’s take on all things crazy and awful and Republican (but I repeat myself) has been a constant for me for over a decade. Weird feeling to have it end; no Stewart and no Colbert.

  29. 29.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Kropadope: he always tried a little too hard to make Obama a punchline, even in the ’08 campaign, when Mr Cool really didn’t lend himself to satire, and something did seem to snap around the time of the rally about nothing. He was (I think rightly) pissed off that Dems expected him to carry their water, but IIRC what really drove him into Hipster Broder Mode was Nancy Pelosi’s attempt to use a parliamentary trick to get a bill on aid to 9/11 first responders around a Republican poison pill. The GOP still managed to block it, and the self-appointed and more than a little bit sanctimonious spokesman for the responders, he went to full “both sides” mode.
    I think he deserved a punch in the mouth for his smarmy intro of Obama last week (“Let’s get started, I’m sure he has a fund-raiser to get to”). Obama never should’ve gone back on that show after the 2010 appearance.
    And yet… he (and his writing staff) was good a lot more than he was bad.

  30. 30.

    Betty Cracker

    Stewart’s “both sides” shtick did irritate me occasionally, but on balance, he has been a force for good. He exposed Fox as a fraudulent propaganda outlet pretty relentlessly. That was a valuable service in its own right.

  31. 31.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I’ll always regret Obama never went on The Colbert Report. I think Colbert would have made Obama look great and achieved some comedy gold in character.

  32. 32.

    Morzer

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I thought Colbert was consistently better than Stewart (although perhaps he just had better writers, who knows). Stewart’s “interviews” were so often abject exercises in starfuckery that it was embarrassing to watch.

  34. 34.

    Howard Beale IV

    Let’s face it-cable/broadcast is in its twilight. The real question is-who can own the Web the way cable/broadcast USED TO?

  38. 38.

    Hill Dweller

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:Obama did go on The Colbert Report, albeit during the last week of his show. The First Lady went on Colbert’s show multiple times. I always felt they both liked Colbert personally. Hell, Colbert sat beside the First Lady at a State Dinner. Conversely, there always seemed to be tension between President Obama and Stewart.

  43. 43.

    Marmot

    @Matt McIrvin:

    he seems to think Hillary is blowing it.

    That seems to be a common refrain lately. About Dems in general, in fact. Can anyone tell me why? I’ve been out of it lately, but the Repubs have been fucking themselves pretty ignominiously. Isn’t that cause for optimism?

  46. 46.

    Morzer

    @Marmot:

    People are seeing HRC’s numbers slip after a Republican barrage and assuming the worst. What they aren’t pricing in is the low quality of the GOP field – and the fact that the Democrats are going to go to work on their chosen target with a vengeance.

  47. 47.

    patroclus

    Springsteen was a nice touch. I’m gonna miss Jon – he really nailed it night after night during the horrible Bush years and especially when he went after Faux News. He’ll be remembered very favorably by history and he might even do some more good things (his Iranian movie was quite good). I’m really looking forward to Colbert next month!

  48. 48.

    Chris

    @Betty Cracker:

    Stewart’s “both sides” shtick did irritate me occasionally, but on balance, he has been a force for good. He exposed Fox as a fraudulent propaganda outlet pretty relentlessly. That was a valuable service in its own right.

    I’ll spot you another – personally, I can’t thank him enough for the times he’s had a sane word on Israel. “We cannot be Israel’s rehab sponsor and its drug dealer!” “EVACUATE TO FUCKING WHERE?” Mocking Congress for giving Bibi “the longest blowjob a Jewish man has ever received.” It’s the kind of stuff nobody outside of the comedy world could get away with, and hardly anyone even there bothers to do. But since, even more than guns, that’s the one topic that make me feel like my entire country has gone fucking insane, I’m grateful to him for actually calling out the madness.

  49. 49.

    MattR

    @Hill Dweller: Yeah. I have a feeling that is why Obama hadn’t been on previously. He has to have been one of the toughest interviews to do in character.

  50. 50.

    Marmot

    @Morzer: Thanks. I didn’t know the first part, but the second and third parts seem obvious, right? Dems can be so fragile.

  51. 51.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Marmot: I agree. With the GOP clown car going on, the best thing a Dem can to is stay more or less out of the way and make an occasionally adult sounding comment. This is especially true of HRC. She is well known already.

  52. 52.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Marmot: The unofficial Democrats’ Motto: When in doubt, PANIC! One of Obama’s best qualities is to resist that urge.

  53. 53.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Marmot: Clinton’s favorable/unfavorable is underwater, after a long period when it was pretty amazingly high. Of course, she wasn’t a presidential candidate then.

    Also, I think Marshall was spooked by that one Quinnipiac swing-state poll that showed Bush and Walker beating her in a bunch of places.

    She hasn’t really been all that visible yet, probably because at this stage, with overwhelming front-runner status and total name recognition, she doesn’t need to be.

  54. 54.

    ms_canadada

    Jon sure was a ‘difference-maker.’ I will miss him so much, but I know he will keep on doing what he’s doing. The world needs his energy.

  55. 55.

    Morzer

    @Matt McIrvin:

    People wobbled when the selection of Palin seemed like a master-stroke – and then reality reasserted itself.

    Of course HRC’s numbers have fallen off their peak – she’s been bombarded by the GOP noise machine 24/7. I suspect that the GOP nominee is going to get absolutely annihilated once the Dems have their target. This is a wretched GOP field with nothing to say on the topics that matter, the Dems have a solid advantage in the electoral college and good issues to run on – plus a candidate who would make a not inconsiderable piece of history if she won.

  56. 56.

    Kropadope

    @Marmot:

    I’ve been out of it lately, but the Repubs have been fucking themselves pretty ignominiously. Isn’t that cause for optimism?

    There is no amount of self-fuckery that devoted R voters won’t forgive and low-info voters won’t forget.

  57. 57.

    Kropadope

    @Morzer:

    plus a candidate who would make a not inconsiderable piece of history if she won.

    So, you aren’t betting on the D nominee being our prospective first Jewish president?

  58. 58.

    NonyNony

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Clinton’s favorable/unfavorable is underwater, after a long period when it was pretty amazingly high. Of course, she wasn’t a presidential candidate then.

    If this is what has Marshall spooked he’s not nearly as astute an observer as I used to think. Compared to the likely Republican nominees Clinton’s favorable/unfavorable rating is still looking really good (everybody’s favorable/unfavorable is underwater – nobody likes politicians except the people who like THEIR politician. That’s why GOTV is the single most important thing that a campaign can spend money on every single time.)

  59. 59.

    Chris

    @Morzer:

    I suspect that the GOP nominee is going to get absolutely annihilated once the Dems have their target.

    Yeah, for the moment, they’re probably just happy to let the Republicans do their work for them.

  62. 62.

    Tom Q

    @Morzer: Marshall has also, despite being smart, always subscribed to a degree to DC conventional wisdom, and the current buzz in that circle — based on paltry evidence like a few outlier polls and that stupid/false Times story on the “criminal inquiry” — is that Hillary is somehow crashing.

    It’s worth recalling, that this same crowd has bought into other momentary panics — like September ’08’s “Palin is going to make McCain a winner!” I think it’s all pure nonsense; Hillary’s still in great shape, and, as long as the economy holds up, Dem chances remain very good. But it won’t stop the CW crowd from suffering many mood swings from here to November ’08.

    ON EDIT: And I see now you said much the same while I was typing.

  63. 63.

    Marmot

    @Matt McIrvin: Thanks for that too. More I didn’t know.

    Sometimes I feel like political reporters get a bit too attached to swing-state analyses in lieu of — forgive me — the overall zeitgeist. But I haven’t sat down with several seasons’ worth of polling numbers to figure it all out.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That is absolutely true. Or “All is lost, bring down the meteor” or “It was a good country while it lasted.” For all the Repubs’ infinite faults, they don’t demoralize like we do.

  66. 66.

    Steeplejack

    I thought Jon Stewart’s wrap-up was very good. It got off to a slow start, with the somewhat clumsy cameos by all the correspondents, but Colbert’s tribute to Stewart was very insightful and obviously heartfelt, and the (sort of) one-take tour through the production offices was great. Springsteen at the end was a master stroke.

    We really have reached the end of an era, with Stewart and Colbert off the stage. Stewart had his flaws—he was a mediocre interviewer, and he had weird glitches in some of his encounters (too nice to a villain, confrontational or dickish with someone who didn’t deserve it)—but I think even the haters will come to miss him when the enormity of the hole he leaves behind becomes apparent.

    ETA: “Off the stage.” Yes, Colbert is coming back next month, but I worry about how much he can resist the network/corporate pressure to go “mainstream.” The chairman of CBS—too lazy to Google it right now—has already made comments about not letting Colbert get too wild, etc. Ugh.

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Kropadope: Sanders isn’t going to be the nominee. He is the candidate of the SWPL crowd.* The nominee has to have a broader appeal.

    *FWIW, I fall squarely into that group.

  69. 69.

    Marmot

    @Tom Q:

    Marshall has also, despite being smart, always subscribed to a degree to DC conventional wisdom, and the current buzz in that circle

    Agreed. Like Ezra Klein, Matt Yglesias, and anyone else who uses “around” to mean “concerning.”

    How did Marshall do after Trump insulted McCain? Did he also predict downfall?

  70. 70.

    RaflW

    @Matt McIrvin: Oh, yes, the hand wringing must commence now!

    Look, she’s laying low while the 17 douchecanoes do their thing.

    I’d tell Josh to chill out, but being a flaming worry wart is classic Demo-fraidycrat.

  71. 71.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Mike in NC:

    Gave up on TDS about two years ago. Too much of the media’s “both sides do it” bullshit.

    Jon often rubbed me the wrong way, too. I had high hopes for the “Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear” after the summer of Teabagger freakouts before the election. His heart had to be in the right place to conceive of something like that (with Colbert), but he seemed to feel the need to throw in some “both-sidery” for some reason.

    Tonight’s closing monologue (before “My Moment of Zen” with Bruce) was really excellent. He should have used that as a mantra while he was doing the show. It was a great admonition to the audience, also too.

    It will indeed be interesting to see what Colbert does on the Late Show. I hope he doesn’t feel pressured to not talk about the stupidity and evilness of some of our politics…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  74. 74.

    Kropadope

    @Morzer: Haha, the sigh was intended as a joke, too. Though I do hear that sentiment expressed way too frequently IRL.

  75. 75.

    RaflW

    @Steeplejack: I have assumed that Stephen Colbert will be hosting the show as himself, not as his Colbert Report character. I suppose some will say, when he’s an evening TV chat host and not “Stephen Colbert” that it’s CBS being all controlling.
    I guess I’ll watch (occasionally) and judge for myself.

  76. 76.

    Morzer

    @Kropadope:

    A Latino Cohort?

    It’s the Revived Roman Empire! Run for your lives! Man the post office! Mail the bridge! Demolish the aqualung!

  78. 78.

    Origuy

    The Daily Show isn’t on yet here in California, but there’s another show going on. We’re having the most vigorous lightening storm I can remember out here in the Bay Area. It’s like something in the Midwest. A few raindrops, but nothing much. We’ll probably get a bunch more fires, unfortunately.

  79. 79.

    trollhattan

    @Betty Cracker:
    And boy howdy, after he announced his retirement he hasn’t gone to the “boff sides” schtick at all. It’s been all whip, all the time on the Rs. Which really makes me sorry to not have him around for this cycle. I’ll give the new guy a shot but don’t have any hope he’s going to understand the nuance or players of American politics. how could he?

    Next up: Colbert putting his stamp on Letterman’s slot. If he brings his old writers along and gives us ten good minutes at the show’s start, i’m good to go. Oliver’s doing a great job but 30 minutes/week is a very different proposition.

  80. 80.

    Morzer

    @Kropadope:

    Only the good bits of me. It’s a savagely hot and humid afternoon in Seoul so I am getting by with the help of my friends.

  81. 81.

    MattR

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    I had high hopes for the “Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear” after the summer of Teabagger freakouts before the election. His heart had to be in the right place to conceive of something like that (with Colbert), but he seemed to feel the need to throw in some “both-sidery” for some reason.

    I think he was hoping (perhaps naively) that he could actually be a uniter and not a divider so he was trying not to be overtly partisan to make it as inclusive as possible.

  82. 82.

    trollhattan

    @Origuy:
    Huh. Over in the valley it’s overcast but no weather to speak of. Hopefully it won’t do the lightning thing in the mountains, we have enough fires.

  83. 83.

    Marmot

    @efgoldman: That seems like the basic consensus around here. Anyone mind if I just don’t panic? I’m mostly on the Dem train as a Repub hater, anyway. Not much of a joiner.

  84. 84.

    Kropadope

    @Morzer:

    It’s a savagely hot and humid afternoon

    I know how time zones work but reading this at 1 in the morning certainly caught me off guard.

  86. 86.

    SoupCatcher

    @Origuy:
    We’re enjoying the lightning show here in Willow Glen. Storm is pretty far away from us, however, based on the delay between flash and sound.

    San Mateo County sent out a red flag warning earlier in the day. I guess they’re worried about lightning strike fires in the coast range.

    The northwest corner of the state has already been lit up. I guess it’s our turn now.

  87. 87.

    mdblanche

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    I had high hopes for the “Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear” after the summer of Teabagger freakouts before the election. His heart had to be in the right place to conceive of something like that (with Colbert), but he seemed to feel the need to throw in some “both-sidery” for some reason.

    It was a bunch of folks on Reddit who conceived of it. Stewart and Colbert embraced it, though the original idea of a rally was focused on Colbert alone.

    @efgoldman:

    Eeyore is part of the Democratic genome.

    There’s a reason he was made the party mascot.

  88. 88.

    lgerard

    The one thing I always liked about Stewart is he had authors who wrote interesting books as guests as a respite form the incessant parade of actors promoting movies. Nobody else does that.

  89. 89.

    Helen

    Watching The West Wing clips on YouTube. Went for the Bartlett – Ritchie debate scene where Bartlett asks for the Blue States’ money back, and I’m just letting YouTube run whatever clip they want after that.

    Imagine if life (and politics) were really like that?

  91. 91.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Origuy: Since I’m on satellite, it came on here at 8pm. A good ending for Stewart’s run on the Daily Show.

  92. 92.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Morzer: Get By with a Little Help from My Friends, has the makings of a good song. The wife says that the summers in Seoul are miserable, I’ve only been there in the Spring.

  97. 97.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @mdblanche: Reddit, really? I didn’t know that. It woulda been a hoot if it were just Colbert. :-) It was pretty amazing as an event, anyway. Biggest crowd I’ve ever been in.

    @MattR: I guess I can see that now. But it didn’t work. It came off as if he didn’t know his audience and if he was equating the two sides. It rubbed lots of people in the crowd the wrong way.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  98. 98.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @David Koch: DirecTV, I’m happy in general. The program that you could use to watch on a PC stopped working with the win10 upgrade(it hasn’t been upgraded in something like 7 years).

  99. 99.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    The Clinton camp isn’t just sitting around

    Anticipating a flood of attacks against Hillary Clinton during the first prime-time Republican debate, her campaign offered reminders Thursday of some of the kinder things those candidates have said about the Democratic front-runner….
    Jeb Bush, in 2013: “Former Secretary Clinton has dedicated her life to serving and engaging people across the world in Democracy.” …
    And, finally, Carly Fiorina: “Women of every political party owe a debt of gratitude to Hillary Clinton.”

  100. 100.

    David Koch

    Jeffrey D. Sachs @JeffDSachs

    Schumer fails most important foreign policy test of career. Says He Will Oppose Iran Nuclear Deal

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    11:43 PM – 6 Aug 2015

    Dr Sachs is right. Schumer is a fucking disgrace.

  102. 102.

    David Koch

    Nicholas Kristof @NickKristof

    Disappointing to see Chuck Schumer oppose Iran deal & try to bury his statement by issuing during Republican debate http://nyti.ms/1OUg2D1

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    10:18 PM – 6 Aug 2015

    Chickenhawks make me sick to my stomach.

  103. 103.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Omnes Omnibus: See your point, I still think I disagree. Who do you think did the best?

    ETA: You were right about Walker, not ready for prime time at all.

  106. 106.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @David Koch: try to bury his statement by issuing during Republican debate

    can he possibly have thought that would work? If so, I hope the shitstorm is keeping him up and spoiling his appetite and set his stomach acid churning. I did think he might vote with the R’s in the first vote, then hold back from supporting an override, but as I said, I think Schumer is following his convictions on this

  108. 108.

    David Koch

    Dan Pfeiffer @danpfeiffer

    When I worked in the White House, we were always grateful to @JebBush for his efforts to help us urge states to adopt Common Core

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    9:57 PM – 6 Aug 2015

    Tie that anvil around Jeb!’s neck. If you don’t follow Pfeiffer on twitter you should, he’s razor sharp.

  110. 110.

    beltane

    @David Koch: On an evening when we got to watch the Republicans immolate, the next Democratic minority leader hands them a fire extinguisher. Being a Democrat is like being a Knicks fan.

  111. 111.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Omnes Omnibus: I don’t think that Cruz came out well, Trump just needed not do a Lenny Kravis(sp?). LO’D has my fellow Bruin Karen Finney on :)

  112. 112.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I don’t think Cruz out well either. I just applied the Costanza rule.

    @beltane: I think that is too cynical. I think he agrees with the Likudniks I still think he is wrong. I just don’t think he is being venal.

  113. 113.

    Hill Dweller

    @beltane: Yep. This also comes on the heels of Schumer saying Obamacare was a mistake. Some of the President’s former staffers(LeBolt, Favreau, Pfeiffer, etc.) are hammering Schumer on Twitter. I’m guessing they have the President’s blessing.

  114. 114.

    Steeplejack

    @RaflW:

    Yes, I know Colbert will not be doing “Colbert” in the new show.

    I just spent a few minutes looking and couldn’t find it, but there was an article a few months ago in which (I think) Leslie Moonvies, chairman of CBS, was assuring advertisers or affiliate stations that they were going to make sure Colbert didn’t get too radical or anti-establishment.

    I hope Colbert can pull this off, and if anyone can it’s him, but if he ends up as just another late-night talk-show host it will be a tragedy.

  116. 116.

    David Koch

    L.Y.N.N.E. ✌️♊️ ‏@LV4RedSox

    @SenSchumer is getting HAMMERED on his post to not support the #IranDeal Maybe 1 in 20 praise him. #notgood

    9 retweets 3 favorites

    11:52 PM – 6 Aug 2015

  117. 117.

    RK

    Heard that Schumer won’t vote to override a veto.

    The TDS at its best was biting and hilarious. His Fox bits (of which there were aaaaaaaaaa lot) became low hanging, empty fruit though as Fox is well aware of their hypocrisy and bias. They’re the communication arm of the GOP after all.

  118. 118.

    jacel

    @Bobby B.: If you like Beth Littleford on The Daily Show, look on YouTube for the far-too-few episodes of O2Be — a parody of daytime shows that Beth, Lizz Winstead, and Brian Unger created on Oprah’s Oxygen network. Brilliantly funny stuff from these Daily Show veterans

  119. 119.

    Lee

    For me John’s ‘both sides do it: was he criticized Dems (and Obama) for not living up to his expectations. He went after Republicans for being Republicans (evil lying douchebags).

    For me that was a significant difference.

  120. 120.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Morzer: Also, some of the Sanders true-believers are pushing the “Hillary is doomed” angle very hard with the idea that Sanders is more electable.

  121. 121.

    Hurling Dervish

    My favorite Jon Stewart was the time Lynne Cheney got up and walked off the show. There Stewart was at his mild interviewer best, tossing softballs at her, and even those were just too much for her to take, so she just gets up and walks off.

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