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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: JEB Lays Down Some More Bush Klan Markers

Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: JEB Lays Down Some More Bush Klan Markers

by Anne Laurie|  September 25, 20152:07 am| 44 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Election 2016, JEB! = John Ellis Not-Bush 2016, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Assholes

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Regulatory reform starts with repeal of: Dodd Frank. #DitchTheRule. Carbon Rule. Coal Ash Rule. Net Neutrality. http://t.co/WMZFmGevK6

— Jeb Bush (@JebBush) September 22, 2015

.@bluewhaletail Jeb!: "More coal ash is the key to reaching 4% GDP growth!"

— Billmon (@billmon1) September 23, 2015

Brian Fung, in the Washington Post, “Jeb Bush says he’d repeal net neutrality”:

… Arguing that Washington is in the midst of a “regulatory crisis” spurred by President Obama and the Federal Communications Commission, Bush said Tuesday that, if elected to the White House, he’d “repeal or reform” a number of regulations, beginning with net neutrality.

The FCC approved strict net neutrality rules earlier this year in an effort to ensure that Internet providers don’t slow down some Web sites or speed up others, particularly in exchange for money. Consumer advocates and some Web-based businesses said such a policy was necessary to ensure a level playing field. But Internet providers objected to the FCC’s decision to regulate them using some of the same rules the agency uses to police legacy telephone service. They’ve sued the FCC in hopes of overturning the regulations.

Now Bush is signaling that no matter what happens with the court battle, he’d make it a priority to roll back the rules. Here’s how it could happen: Under a Republican administration, the political balance at the FCC would tip from a 3-2 majority in favor of liberals to a 3-2 majority in favor of conservatives. That would allow Republicans to undo the actions of FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler, an Obama appointee…

The Hill adds:

… [R]epealing Obama administration rules is only a sliver of Bush’s regulatory plan. In addition, he would put a new regulatory freeze on agencies until one of his appointees approved new rules. He would also set a regulation budget, requiring offsets if new regulations bring costs. He would also pass an executive order outlining principles regulators should follow, including a preference for state action and “honest” cost-benefit analysis.

Back the truck up to the public vault, boys — the Bushes are back in town!

Of course, there’s the pesky niggle that he needs to get within stealing distance of winning the election, first…

In new CNN poll of NH Republicans only 16% now see @JebBush as the most electable GOP candidate-down from 37% in June. No rationale w/o that

— Geoff Garin (@geoffgarin) September 24, 2015

Dave Weigel, at the Washington Post, “Jeb Bush is in 5th place in a new New Hampshire poll. That’s not the really bad news”:

… The problem is that electability was really baked into the Bush argument, in a way he has never fulfilled. Last year, as he built out his exploratory committee, Bush talked about “losing the primary to win the general,” a way of saying that he’d appeal to the voters Mitt Romney lost instead of swinging too far right. It was similar to the pitch George W. Bush made in 1999, telling Republicans that a “compassionate conservative” who’d just led landslide wins in Texas could bring back the Democrats and independents lost by the Newt Gingrich-era party…

Jeb Bush was never as credible saying that as his brother had been. Polling in 1999 showed George W. Bush with monumental leads over likely Democratic nominee Al Gore. No polling in 2015 has showed Jeb Bush with similar support. Indeed, he’s often polled worse against Clinton — in a theoretical battle of dynasties — than lesser-known Republicans…

Jeb Bush (polling at ~10%) has received over 5x more network newscast coverage than Bernie Sanders (polling at ~25%) http://t.co/MJy99ka47m

— Leanne Naramore (@LeanneNaramore) September 24, 2015

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  1. 1.

    Peale

    September 25, 2015 at 2:24 am

    What we need is something to unite us, not divide us as a party. We cant worry about Jeb’s electability until we find out own center and come together. Thankfully, i think that event is just around the corner.

  2. 2.

    Gian

    September 25, 2015 at 2:26 am

    Bush just needs to be in the top 30% until the rest of them drop out from money issues.

    Been spending a while doing “review” of 4th grade common core math (the test where like 1/4 of cali got proficient last year)

    and I get the rather longer way they do multiplication, but the division stuff well, it feels like (why don’t we take a 3-4 step problem and turn it into a 20 step problem to be extra sure we’ve taught place value)

    to complete the vent, the kiddo just started at this school and the teacher’s position is essentially “we’re teaching 5th grade decimals here, you teach the review stuff that more than half the kids in the state failed” It’s a public magnate school but seriously there’s relying on parents to supplement ant fill in the blanks and then there’s this. I’m fully understanding the multiplication (which consists of essentially adding additional lines to do each place value on it’s own line) But the division is either designed to make kids hate math, or I just don’t grok it.

    it’s got some weird place value least common factor multiply and add up the number of time you multiply thing (sorry, after doing some of the work I just had a glass of wine and am heading to bed, my analysis may be impaired)
    the whole thing makes my left handed kid nuts because writing sucks for him and making him write a dozen lines for what can be done in four…
    (and what is the f-n obsession with place values for base ten?)

  3. 3.

    redshirt

    September 25, 2015 at 2:28 am

    UNLIMITED CORPORATE VICTORY!

  4. 4.

    John Revolta

    September 25, 2015 at 2:31 am

    “Also, I plan to outlaw puppies and ban pizza. MWAHAHAHAHA!”

    What a maroon.

  5. 5.

    RK

    September 25, 2015 at 2:33 am

    We should’ve let the South secede.

  6. 6.

    srv

    September 25, 2015 at 2:37 am

    Trump is building a new movement that will trascend political parties and pathological ideologies. We’ve had enough narcissists in the White House.

    You are either with change or part of the duopoly of failure.

  7. 7.

    RK

    September 25, 2015 at 2:42 am

    Trump is building a new movement

    in his pants

  8. 8.

    redshirt

    September 25, 2015 at 2:49 am

    Also, conservatives are pussies.

  9. 9.

    BGinCHI

    September 25, 2015 at 3:01 am

    Let’s state the obvious: If Jeb’s last name were Jenkins he would be the manager of a Subway in Farmingon, CT.

    It’s nice to see that the failure elevator has a ceiling.

  10. 10.

    srv

    September 25, 2015 at 3:03 am

    WASHINGTON (AP) — China is preparing to announce plans to launch a national system to limit greenhouse gases and force industries to purchase pollution credits, Obama administration officials said Thursday.

    Beijing plans to put the system known as cap-and-trade into place in 2017 as part of measures aimed to address climate change in cooperation with the U.S. and others.

    Well there goes the economy.

  11. 11.

    hkedi

    September 25, 2015 at 3:06 am

    @RK:

    Thought about that, and it probably would have only delayed the war by a couple of years. South Secedes, North goes meh, and rapidly abolishes slavery. Because of this, the underground railroad goes into overdrive, since the border to real freedom is no longer Canada, but the boundary of the North, where escaped slave hunters are no longer able to go; which causes economic harm to the South. The North, although probably not completely boycotting the South, does look more strongly to other markets, causing further economic damage to the Confederate States. Because of this, the Confederate states invade the North to reclaim escaped slaves and “punish” the North for their economic “warfare”, only to get pasted like they did in our history.

    The bigoted, defiantly anti-intellectual, belligerent and bullying mindset of the modern “Republican Base” can be traced back to the CSA.

  12. 12.

    Ripley

    September 25, 2015 at 3:15 am

    Jeb! 2016: You cut yourself opening a can of tuna and you die.

  13. 13.

    Betty Cracker

    September 25, 2015 at 3:24 am

    Insomnia is so tiresome.

  14. 14.

    Mike J

    September 25, 2015 at 3:24 am

    @Gian: I sucked at math until I got a computer and started programming it. My parents had sent me to one of those white flight academies with high test scores and old fashioned ways of teaching everything (none of that new math for them). Failed algebra the first time I took it. Got a commie over the summer, started writing games, which required moving objects around a Cartesian grid and was doing trig before anybody could try to teach it to me and keep me from understanding it.

  15. 15.

    Morzer

    September 25, 2015 at 3:30 am

    @BGinCHI:

    If Jeb’s last name were Jenkins he would be

    Right to Rise

  16. 16.

    Morzer

    September 25, 2015 at 3:31 am

    @Mike J:

    Got a commie over the summer

    Every night is Liberal Confessions Night!

  17. 17.

    John Revolta

    September 25, 2015 at 3:31 am

    @Betty Cracker: I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it

  18. 18.

    Morzer

    September 25, 2015 at 3:32 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Have you tried counting Republican presidential primary candidates?

  19. 19.

    Morzer

    September 25, 2015 at 3:43 am

    This seems to fit with the Jeb! topic, if one takes it as a study in how the weakest self-select for failure. Professor TBogg will now enlighten you:

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/lucky-non-virgin-gals-spared-marrying-whiny-man-children-after-mra-launches-nohymennodiamond-drive/

    If you are a woman who has already had sex with a man that resulted in a hymen-busting, you may be one lucky gal who has lessened her chances of possibly marrying a potentially abusive whiny man-child who will someday be the subject of a restraining order or three.

    Congratulations. Yes, you should have another glass of wine.

    You should also go out and have celebratory hot sex with any man you choose to have sex with as insurance because you have been spared a lifetime of regret and disgust and explaining to your kids that “daddy wasn’t always that way” and “stranger danger” also includes him.

    According to the No Hymen, No Diamond “community,” if you slutted it up in the past, neck-bearded losers who smell like a gym bag left in the hot car trunk since July will not put “a ring on it.”

  20. 20.

    sparrow

    September 25, 2015 at 3:45 am

    I’m cranky. I taught lab all afternoon, drove the airport, flew for 7 hours through 2 flights, followed by a 1 hour drive to get to the telescope observing facility at what feels like 3 AM for me, and they screwed up my guesthouse reservation (no key). After bothering the telescope operator for a key to the room ostensibly reserved for me, I find that in fact, there is someone already sleeping in my bed. I probably scared the bejeezus out of them.

    I just said fuck it and got a room at the holiday inn by the highway. Hopefully tomorrow I’ll be in a better mood, because it’s the desert and it should be a beautiful day.

  21. 21.

    Morzer

    September 25, 2015 at 3:47 am

    @sparrow:

    I find that in fact, there is someone already sleeping in my bed

    Any word on the chair and the porridge?

  22. 22.

    David Koch

    September 25, 2015 at 3:51 am

    Robert Lee Toronto 5 hours ago

    Bad week for the GOP. With the Pope speaking out for refugees, global warming and sharing the wealth, and China coming around on carbon emissions, what’s left of their sorry platform?

    Reply 55Recommend

    mancuroc is a trusted commenter Rochester, NY 5 hours ago

    A one-two punch for the GOP climate deniers. First the Pope on climate change and now the Chinese on cap=and-trade. It’s lonely indeed when you’re out of step with both Pope Francis and President Xi.

    Reply 51Recommend

    whatever nh 5 hours ago

    This is a game-changer, if it comes to pass.

    The US will have no choice, since, as the second largest emitter, it will be shamed into going along. Add the EU (which is already there), Australia (tried, backed off, will try again), India/Korea/Mexico/Japan/Peru (ready do go with their own versions), and what we have is a frontal assault on the climate skeptics and denialists.

    Reply 47Recommend

  23. 23.

    Eric

    September 25, 2015 at 3:55 am

    @RK: Then they would have kept their estate in Connecticut and we’d still be stuck with them.

  24. 24.

    Morzer

    September 25, 2015 at 3:58 am

    @Eric:

    Nah. Mittens would have seized the estate for debt and packed them off into exile as woodcutters or longshoremen or something of the sort.

  25. 25.

    amk

    September 25, 2015 at 4:04 am

    Polling in 1999 showed George W. Bush with monumental leads over likely Democratic nominee Al Gore.

    guess, this is why it had to come down to the fucking hanging chads and the fucking supremes to drag the fucking dumbya over the fucking line.

    weigel is a fucking idjit.

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    September 25, 2015 at 4:12 am

    Repeating from posted several days ago, it’s not reform, it’s rescission.

  27. 27.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 25, 2015 at 4:28 am

    My tattoo itches wahh

  28. 28.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    September 25, 2015 at 4:53 am

    @Major Major Major Major: Told ya. Are you putting A&D on it?

    ETA: On our hike yesterday, the kid noticed my latest tat(I had it for 3 months and it right below my neck). She visited multiple times since I got it, jury’s still out on her mom noticing it.

  29. 29.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 25, 2015 at 4:59 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: aquaphor. Liberally. Sleeping in long sleeves too. I’m not dumb :P

  30. 30.

    TheMightyTrowel

    September 25, 2015 at 5:00 am

    @Major Major Major Major: but it’s so worth it in the end!

  31. 31.

    Thoughtful Today

    September 25, 2015 at 5:11 am

    h/t Colbert:

    Jeb…?

  32. 32.

    Zinsky

    September 25, 2015 at 5:26 am

    It takes such a confused mind to not be able to see the inevitable consequences of ones’ own beliefs. These so-called conservatives love to talk about “freedom ” and “liberty” and yet the policies they advocate, like repealing net neutrality, are the antithesis of these ideals.

  33. 33.

    hkedi

    September 25, 2015 at 5:28 am

    @Zinsky:

    Feature, not a bug. Of course having such a… Pliable… population can lead to other problems. As Mr. Trump has been demonstrating these days.

  34. 34.

    DivaCowboy

    September 25, 2015 at 6:06 am

    @Gian: From my own experience with my daughter’s CC math (and a very patient teacher who took the time to explain to parents) the trick with all of the math is explaining why you took the steps you did, in effect creating a replicable experiment and result. To us it looks like 20 steps where 4 will suffice, but to them it’s demonstrating why they used the techniques they did, each time, including place values and defining the operands. AFAICT, these are building blocks for future use. If you know why you’re doing something, then you’ll know how.

  35. 35.

    Bobby Thomson

    September 25, 2015 at 8:02 am

    @David Koch:

    The US will have no choice, since, as the second largest emitter, it will be shamed into going along.

    That’s adorable. We invaded a country and killed more of our own people than in the event that we were supposedly avenging. We have an approach to diplomacy like an MRA’s approach to dating. Nearly a majority of our populace disagrees that natural selection has occurred, let alone accepts anthropocentric global warming. But we will be shamed into following the lead of other countries into adopting cap and trade. Let me know when we get universal health care and a bare minimum of gun regulation, too.

  36. 36.

    SFAW

    September 25, 2015 at 8:12 am

    @BGinCHI:

    Let’s state the obvious: If Jeb’s last name were Jenkins he would be the manager of a Subway in Farmingon, CT.

    Oh, bullshit. Farmington has more class than that. Even Subway has more class and sense than that. Hell, they hired Jared as their spokesman – all he did was have sex with some 14-year-olds – Jeb! would continue his brother’s and Cheney’s plan to destroy the country for everyone except their rich pals.

    And besides, floor-sweeper seems more in line with Jeb!’s skills.

    Nice to know that Reich to Rise has hooked his lips cart to such an evil motherfucker.

  37. 37.

    SFAW

    September 25, 2015 at 8:19 am

    @Zinsky:

    These so-called conservatives love to talk about “freedom ” and “liberty” and yet the policies they advocate, like repealing net neutrality, are the antithesis of these ideals.

    Why would you ever think that those are their “ideals”? Because some moron said that 60 years ago? Their “ideals” have been “gaining and maintaining power, and screw everyone else” for 30-40 years, at least. With a side of Cleek’s Law thrown in to “keep it real.”

    As has been said more than a few times on this blog, the Rethugs and conservatives do not want to govern, they want to rule. Whatever it takes to get them there is their “ideal du jour.”

  38. 38.

    Chris

    September 25, 2015 at 8:33 am

    Last year, as he built out his exploratory committee, Bush talked about “losing the primary to win the general,” a way of saying that he’d appeal to the voters Mitt Romney lost instead of swinging too far right. It was similar to the pitch George W. Bush made in 1999, telling Republicans that a “compassionate conservative” who’d just led landslide wins in Texas could bring back the Democrats and independents lost by the Newt Gingrich-era party…

    Eh? Bush won in 2000 by uniting the big business and religious right wings of the party (the people who couldn’t agree on a candidate in 2008 and 2012). To the extent that moderates still existed, they picked McCain, not Bush.

  39. 39.

    Chris

    September 25, 2015 at 8:39 am

    @hkedi:

    Exactly. My main issue with “let the South secede” (now or then) has always been that you’re basically allowing the creation of a hostile, unstable, reactionary, aggressive new regime right on America’s border. Ultimately, that means just as many headaches as keeping them in the Union.

  40. 40.

    SFAW

    September 25, 2015 at 8:50 am

    @Chris:

    Ultimately, that means just as many headaches as keeping them in the Union.

    Not if we put them all in Tejas, and then wall it off, including restricting their access to the Gulf, but leaving their southern border wide open in one direction (i.e., northward).. They claim they’re these rugged individualists, and that government rules are Teh Evul – let them prove it.

    See, there IS some part of Trump’s platform for everyone!

  41. 41.

    Gex

    September 25, 2015 at 9:04 am

    The white dudebro libertarians are the natural next major constituency for the GOP. So I’m glad to see Jeb! commit the GOP to being the party that wants to kill Net Neutrality. They won’t be able to lock these guys in waging war on abortion, birth control, or gays. They will actually have their own freedoms threatened by GOP policies.

    Go Jeb!

  42. 42.

    RaflW

    September 25, 2015 at 11:14 am

    The OP misses the point. Jeb. is the respectable moderate candidate and he’s saying ‘toss out everything that forms the basic framework of decent society.’

    We won’t get elected for it, but he’s playing right along with moving the Overton window just that much further to the right.

  43. 43.

    mark k

    September 25, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    Evil Jeb is wrapping the entire RW media/propaganda machine, which is everything but Democracy Now!, around his finger with the net neutrality dismissal. Pocketing all the banking money with repealing Dodd-Frank, and all his family buddies with the extractive industries of oil and coal with the zero regulation pledges. All 3 of these are what is ruining this country and the world. He must be stopped but it won’t happen without major and unflagging activism (a good start is to quit allowing them to distract you with the shit on TV and the GOP rigged horserace) by progressives and all pro-democracy Americans. Wait till his buddies in the giant Wurlitzer get going…he’ll be the frontrunner and then they’ll do everything in their considerable power to destroy his opponent. It’s already started.

    and I’m telling you DWS=Jeb as POTUS.

  44. 44.

    JimGod

    September 25, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    @mark k: Is this English?

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