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  1. 1.

    different-church-lady

    I hear they were cleaning up the end zone at Gillette Stadium today and found another three Brady touchdown passes.

  9. 9.

    Corner Stone

    No, the Bruins haven’t been that good since Espo scored on the rebound.

    I’d like to, uhh, score on the rebound sometime.

  17. 17.

    ThresherK

    @Corner Stone: If whatever happened to Tim Couch didn’t teach anyone to not draft a QB first overall to start behind an expansion team’s O-line (a lesson David Carr wishes Houston paid heed to), Alex Smith is also an example of how to not develop a #1 pick QB: Hey, let’s start him, and change the O-coordinator for a rookie every year for four years!

    Dang, the game is hard enough without stuff like that.

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    Man, it’s like they are trying to jinx Rodgers with that no-interceptions-at-home streak talk..

  22. 22.

    Corner Stone

    @Betty Cracker:

    Maybe it was a passive-aggressive swipe at Chin Dimple.

    I kind of think it has to be. It reminds me of the game Rich Gannon “forgot” to throw a pass at Jerry Rice and broke his consecutive games streak with a catch. You’re telling me you forgot the GOAT is on your team and maybe you should look at him once during the F’ng game? Bqwhatvr douche.
    I think Amendola knew what he was doing. If not, what the hell does that say about respect for your teammates and future HoF QB?

  23. 23.

    different-church-lady

    @redshirt: It’s Goodell. Goodell got him so pissed off he’s hyper-focused this year. The best revenge is going to be to win 50, and then skip right over the next season and win LI immediately. Probably before the third quarter of 50 is over.

  24. 24.

    Suezboo

    I know absolutely nothing about American “football” and the jargon you lot use for it is totally opaque to me. Nevertheless. I am rooting for the Green Bay Packers because my brother who lives in California tells me I should because they are not owned by a foul billionaire. He feels this is a good enough reason – me too. So, Go Packers !

  25. 25.

    redshirt

    @Suezboo:

    I know absolutely nothing about American “football” and the jargon you lot use for it is totally opaque to me. Nevertheless. I am rooting for the Green Bay Packers because my brother who lives in California tells me I should because they are not owned by a foul billionaire. He feels this is a good enough reason – me too. So, Go Packers !

    It is a good enough reason. All Americans should support the Pack.

  27. 27.

    Corner Stone

    @ThresherK: David Carr is a mental case but the Texans did not do him any favors. Taking him out of Fresno St for FSM’s sake? As the first pick for an expansion team? Poor kid.
    But SanFran also F’d Alex Smith in their own way as you note. What people forget about Alex is that his straight line speed is, or was, about 4.5 out of Utah. And he had great arm strength and an understanding of how to throw the underneath ball.
    He got a really raw deal and will forever be compared to Rodgers, unfortunately. And now to finish off his career he’s got to watch Reid mismanage the game clock for just about ever.

  31. 31.

    Corner Stone

    @Betty Cracker:

    Maybe it was a passive-aggressive swipe at Chin Dimple.

    And honestly? The more I see Brady in press events this year the more I think the court room sketch artist had his image down pretty close to perfect. The guy is totes creeping me the fuck out.

  32. 32.

    different-church-lady

    Something is wrong with timespace: the Red Sox are playing the Yankees, the game is less than two hours old, and they’re already in the seventh.

  35. 35.

    redshirt

    @Corner Stone:

    And honestly? The more I see Brady in press events this year the more I think the court room sketch artist had his image down pretty close to perfect. The guy is totes creeping me the fuck out.

    lol. You’re just jealous of the life of perfection that is Tom Brady. It’s OK, many people are at first. Just learn to understand and accept it.

  36. 36.

    Corner Stone

    @redshirt: I used to think he was a really handsome man. But honestly he’s looking fucking skeevy the last few Q&A’s I saw him in. That last one where he was wearing the baseball cap? He looked fucking spooky and malnourished.

  43. 43.

    Betty Cracker

    @Suezboo: I admire that about the franchise too. Also, the GB fans who travel down to Tampa to watch their team wallop the Bucs are almost uniformly genial and willing to share food with the locals during tailgates. The traveling fan bases for other teams seem to include a much higher proportion of dickheads.

    @Denali: I saw a picture of it sitting on a mailbox, but that’s all I know.

    @Corner Stone: He’s still a handsome man, but he does look a bit more gaunt these days. Maybe his supermodel wife made him go vegan or something.

  44. 44.

    Cacti

    @Corner Stone:

    And honestly? The more I see Brady in press events this year the more I think the court room sketch artist had his image down pretty close to perfect. The guy is totes creeping me the fuck out.

    Brady has 2 facial expressions: smug and pouty.

  45. 45.

    trollhattan

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The Bears still suck.

    Yesterday’s Bears were mid-pack Division 1 NCAA at best. Considering the pasting the horrid ’49ers put on them earlier, one wonders how bad they can truly become.

  50. 50.

    The Thin Black Duke

    @Betty Cracker: Tom Brady is a great athlete because he’s just as obsessive as Michael Jordan was. There is no off-season for him. The lunatic is so methodical about his training regimen that he eats a sugar-free, non-dairy avocado ice cream for dessert so he won’t gain an extra molecule of fat. Yeah, the dirtbag is a Donald Trump supporter, but I reluctantly have to admire his dedication in spite of myself.

  51. 51.

    dedc79

    There was just a brutal injury in the Cards-Pirates baseball game. Two outfielders collided, one kneeing the other in the head. Such a strange sight to see a player getting wheeled off like that in baseball. A seemingly weekly occurrence in football, of course.

  58. 58.

    The Thin Black Duke

    @raven: Yeah? Maybe Brady will indulge himself and have a truckload of Ben and Jerry’s “Cherry Garcia” after Goodell hands him the Lombardi Trophy in January?

  60. 60.

    Cacti

    @dedc79:

    There was just a brutal injury in the Cards-Pirates baseball game. Two outfielders collided, one kneeing the other in the head. Such a strange sight to see a player getting wheeled off like that in baseball. A seemingly weekly occurrence in football, of course.

    I’m guessing that baseball pros are just fine with the relative lack of brain trauma in their sport.

  63. 63.

    different-church-lady

    @redshirt: But they didn’t deserve to have a defensive lineman score an offensive touchdown on them. That was just rubbing it in. Not that I begrudge the Fridge.

  73. 73.

    redshirt

    @different-church-lady:

    But they didn’t deserve to have a defensive lineman score an offensive touchdown on them. That was just rubbing it in. Not that I begrudge the Fridge.

    I enjoyed the Fridge scoring back in the day because it was so different and outrageous. Even as a Pats fan I liked that the other team was so cocky they were running vanity touchdown plays. I mean, once you’re beat, who cares what happens?

  74. 74.

    The Thin Black Duke

    @raven: But Brady is still a Republican. Too many professional athletes are, unfortunately. The rich ones, anyway.

  75. 75.

    different-church-lady

    @raven: I’m calling BS — he’ll vote for Trump alright, but he’s realizing he’s violating his own standards by allowing non-football things to interfere with the focus on football.

  77. 77.

    Corner Stone

    @The Thin Black Duke:

    But Brady is still a Republican. Too many professional athletes are, unfortunately. The rich ones, anyway.

    Even after he proved like no one could that even he desperately needs a union.

  78. 78.

    different-church-lady

    @redshirt: Yeah, I mean the carnage was so great that you couldn’t even get pissed off about it. “The Fridge runs the ball in? Nothing we can do to stop it? OK, take that medicine.”

  80. 80.

    redshirt

    @different-church-lady:

    I’m calling BS — he’ll vote for Trump alright, but he’s realizing he’s violating his own standards by allowing non-football things to interfere with the focus on football.

    Yeah. But this is so anti-Brady. Keeping the hat in the locker is begging to be asked questions. That’s not the Tom I know.

  82. 82.

    dedc79

    @efgoldman:

    Deadspin has the video up already, because of course they do.

    And from an SF Gate article re Mays’ greatest catches:

    The most memorable catch Mays made in a San Francisco uniform might have been on April 11, 1970, when he and right fielder Bobby Bonds collided at Candlestick Park in pursuit of Bobby Tolan’s deep drive to right-center. Mays, one month shy of his 40th birthday, leaped above the cyclone fence and held onto the ball despite crashing into Bonds.

  84. 84.

    different-church-lady

    @redshirt:

    That’s not the Tom I know.

    Right, that’s my point: he realized he slipped up, now he’s trying to make up.

    If only Schilling could figure that out.

  89. 89.

    redshirt

    @different-church-lady:

    Right, that’s my point: he realized he slipped up, now he’s trying to make up.

    If only Schilling could figure that out.

    You’re probably right, and it makes me sad. That Tom is such an idiot to support Trump. Like, one of the super dumb people! But how can this be when he’s such an obviously smart QB who must study and practice and diet and train and spend his entire life dedicated to this singular pursuit?

  96. 96.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @efgoldman: Were not the Pats the only team to have a lead on the 85 Bears in the playoffs, and the only team to score on those Bears?

    The final margin was provided by a patently illegal pick play, my Pats fan buddies tell me. However, it’d taken something incredible to stop that team that year.

  98. 98.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @efgoldman:

    they’re not bad guys in this.

    Isn’t Belichek always the bad guy in a Patriots related story?

    And WTF? The Bears traded Jared Allen?

  99. 99.

    redshirt

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Isn’t Belichek always the bad guy in a Patriots related story?

    And WTF? The Bears traded Jared Allen?

    What? Belichek is Moses and he has led us out of the valley of darkness onto the plateau of prosperity and decades long excellence. Yay, Bill did say “DO YOUR JOB“, and all did their job and the world was good.

  100. 100.

    redshirt

    @different-church-lady:

    Sox opponents: 1 run in the last four games.

    Where the hell was this four months ago?

    Right? They’re probably the best team in baseball right now.

    I blame… I don’t even know. Farrel? Cherington? I think it’s actually Hanley Ramirez and Mike Napoli.

  105. 105.

    Corner Stone

    @efgoldman:

    and not that anybody in the universe can make Alex Smith into a competent QB.

    I’d take Alex Smith right now as starting QB for the Texans. And offer odds he starts for 8 or more NFL teams right now.

    ETA, shit. Thinking about it, he starts for a dozen or more teams next Sunday.

  107. 107.

    Corner Stone

    @efgoldman: There are maybe four elite QB’s in the league right now.
    Brady
    Rodgers
    Wilson
    Rivers??
    The other teams are looking for someone who won’t lose the game for them more times than he will.
    The evolution of the DE and the pass rushing LB over the last 10 years is just too much. Lawrence Taylor was a freak of his time, and I’m not saying there’s another LT around, but damn.

  112. 112.

    burnspbesq

    This Red Sox team could beat any other team, easily. I’d take odds.

    You’re demented. You think the Sox would win a series against Harvey/de Grom/Syndergaard? Kershaw/Greinke? Arietta/anyone?

  113. 113.

    redshirt

    @efgoldman:

    Tell that to yonder Washington Nationals. And no, when you’re 19 games out with eight to play, or whatever, they don’t count, not really.

    The new GM and staff are watching. Intently.

  117. 117.

    burnspbesq

    @redshirt:

    Best case, the Sox’ late-season push, if it lasts another week, will mean that they finish third, rather than fourth or fifth, in the division. If they win their six remaining games, they will finish a glorious two games over .500 (82-80).

    Great stuff. Here’s a cookie. Enjoy it next week, when your team is one of the 20 playing golf instead of baseball.

  119. 119.

    redshirt

    @burnspbesq: No doubt on the season they suck. They’re not going to the playoffs and that’s been known for a long time.

    I’m talking about right now. The Red Sox might be the best team in baseball on 9/28/15.

  120. 120.

    burnspbesq

    @efgoldman:

    I never, ever agree with burnsie about anything, even what day of the week it is,

    Get your head out of your hindquarters long enough to face the reality that it’s Thursday, willya?

  122. 122.

    redshirt

    I Believe in the new Boston Red Sox!

    Betts! Bogarts! Bradley! The Killer B’s!

    This ain’t your Daddie’s Red Sox

    (insert John Fogerty music)

  136. 136.

    burnspbesq

    @redshirt:

    Who are we to second guess?

    efg is right. Bahstan sports fans live to second-guess. They second-guess Acacia Walker, for Crissakes.

    Unlike the Sawx, you’re not even trying.

  137. 137.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @raven:

    I don’t even know what the issues are. I haven’t paid attention to politics in a long time.

    Shorter Brady: “I’m rich and white.”

  138. 138.

    redshirt

    @burnspbesq:

    efg is right. Bahstan sports fans live to second-guess. They second-guess Acacia Walker, for Crissakes.

    Unlike the Sawx, you’re not even trying.

    Are you kidding me? I’m the most hardcore Pats fan evah!

    Not really. In truth, I don’t actually care at all. I go along with the tribe’s rituals, and try and fit in….

  139. 139.

    lamh36

    Rooting for Trevor Noah…I haven’t watched TDS consistently in years

    But I’ll admit, I really want him to do well, same as I did for Larry Wilmore.

    I was a little anxious to watch it, but I went ahead and watched Trevor Noah’s first Daily Show broadcast. I think he did good. I especially enjoyed the Roy Wood Jr segments.

    I’ll watch the rest of the week

  140. 140.

    marduk

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    “I haven’t paid attention to politics in a long time.” Shorter Brady: “I’m rich and white.”

    So true. He didn’t endorse Trump in the first place, headlines to the contrary. It was “Oh, Donnie? Love that guy, always right there with the helicopter rides to richman-partytown. Might be president? Sweet!”. Do you agree with his politics? “His what now?”

  141. 141.

    SoupCatcher

    Let’s see if the Giants can tag Greinke for a couple runs this inning.

    eta: Well, that didn’t happen. And it didn’t happen quick enough for the edit window to still be open. To the 8th!

  153. 153.

    Gian

    @different-church-lady:

    it was great watching Harbuagh use the same style “trick” play in Baltimore that he whined and bitched and moaned was unfair last year when it was done to him.

    I expect that Goodell is responding to a majority of owners who are just angry over new England. I mean I get why the Jets are still bitter. Nothing like having the coach you hired quit in less than a week and then go lead a division rival team to multiple championships to get the hate going.

    Might be like having a Babe Ruth go to a rival and run off a ton of championships, or something similar.
    So I get the Jets ownership has a serious grudge, and Baltimore whines about the play and then uses it…
    I expect the other owners feel there was more to the spygate era stuff than made the papers and push RG for their pint of blood, and he works for the collective of the owners, and this whole federal case started with Baltimore telling Indy to try and do a sting which was then so badly botched by the league that they ended up getting tossed in court…

  155. 155.

    SoupCatcher

    And the Giants do not go gentle. It took 12 innings, but they stay alive for one more day. Dodgers magic number still at 2.

  157. 157.

    Tommy

    Happy thoughts. I was in this 9/11 like store today. Had this shirt on that says E=MC2. Guy was like do you remember me. I said yes, you were my teacher in 6th grade. I didn’t say to him that I recall, as a military brat, when I came to that school, you flipped a coin in front of me to see which homeroom I’d go to. Yeah that happened.

    But he was just so amazed I had a shirt on that gave some shout out to Einstein. I am like you might now get it, but after your class I started to read a lot. And Einstein, hard to argue with him!

  159. 159.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Tommy: I am not a baseball person as a general rule. Do you want to pick a fight with me?

    ETA: I am not try to start one.

  160. 160.

    J R in WV

    @different-church-lady:

    Sorry, but you are totally wrong about Green Bay, WI, which has the following population:

    Population in 2013: 104,779 (99% urban, 1% rural). Population change since 2000: +2.4%

    Now that isn’t huge, it is much smaller than any other pro franchise city, but it is way way more than 3500 people!! Plus there are many stock holders compared to a single magnate slime ball like all the other owners!

    GO Packers!!

  162. 162.

    Tommy

    @Omnes Omnibus: I don’t want to pick a fight with you.

    Just baseball ….

    My mom used to joke she put headphones on her belly so as a fetus I could hear Jack Buck call a Cardinal games. Yeah it is like that. We go deep with Cardinals. Parents over the last week and I don’t have cable, Fox Sports Midwest, so they couldn’t see the Cardinals games and just had to listen to them, as I do, and it freaked them out.

  163. 163.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Tommy: You do understand that I was originally making a joke about the fact that there are football and baseball Cardinals, yes? You stepped into the middle of it.

  165. 165.

    different-church-lady

    @J R in WV:

    Sorry, but you are totally wrong about Green Bay, WI, which has the following population:

    If I had said 14, or negative 37, would that have gotten the sarcasm through?

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