The Dog Murderer is under center for the Stillers tonight. So Go Ravens, I guess. (Sorry, Cole.)
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The Dog Murderer is under center for the Stillers tonight. So Go Ravens, I guess. (Sorry, Cole.)
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redshirt
I didn’t know you could do that. Thanks
How’s it taste Cole?
Corner Stone
Go Vickstillers, go!
Corner Stone
That was an unspeakably bad throw by Flacco.
redshirt
Brown dropped that TD.
Jade
Too bad the 2 time rapist is hurt, We really want a saint at quarterback.
Corner Stone
Vickstiller, you just should not, let me say that again, you should not be trying to take the top off the defense.
Just throw underneath and do your best to not get your guys blown the fuck up over the middle.
Corner Stone
“Not a quick decision, as you can see. I can sack you away or you can run from me.”
redshirt
Someone needs to define a word to describe the feeling of playing in too many fantasy leagues such that you no longer know what to root for.
It’s very confusing.
Jeffro
Who, I say who in the press will begin to ask the question, “Which nutbag would replace McCarthy if and when he DOESN’T ascend to the Speakership?” ‘Cause after this
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kevin-mccarthy-benghazi-explanation-fox
I think it’s fair to say his chances are in doubt, and even if he limps into it, he’ll be about 10x as limp as Orange Julius ever was.
Corner Stone
Steve Smith Sr. is just flat out nuts.
BruceFromOhio
Meteor. Cheering for the meteor.
Betty Cracker
@Jade: Fuck that asshole too. I’ll admit I didn’t follow that story all that closely, so I don’t know how strong the charges were against BR. But I’m generally in the “where there’s smoke, there’s fire” camp, even if he squirmed off the legal hook, so fuck him.
Corner Stone
That was an amazing downfield block by Vickstiller.
BruceFromOhio
Also a bit charmed by the Dog Murderer standing in for Rapistberger. A despised team that has its qb’s pre-tarred and feathered. The opponent is the stolen soul of a former football team from elsewhere that’s 0-3.
Welcome to the AFC North. Whatta league!
@redshirt: How about a deuce?
WALL STREET
redshirt
@Corner Stone: Holding
Betty Cracker
@redshirt: Confansion? Rootfusion? I dunno, but that’s why I quit playing fantasy football. It goddamn ruined the season for me the only year I played it. Never again.
redshirt
@BruceFromOhio:
The Patriots no longer seek only VICTORY, but now UTTER DESOLATION.
Corner Stone
@redshirt: Bullshit. He pushed him forward and out of the zone.
redshirt
@Betty Cracker:
Confansion is quite apt.
For me, it’s not just fantasy sports if you’re playing just one team, but rather multiple fantasy teams, such that at times you’re rooting against yourself, you’re rooting for the same guy to succeed and fail, etc. It’s not fun and now I remember why I gave it up years ago.
redshirt
@Corner Stone: Watch the jersey.
BruceFromOhio
@redshirt: Buffalo Bills fans are familiar with that concept. Just ask one*.
*Please note: never ask this of a Jets fan. They can be a bit twitchy.
Corner Stone
@redshirt: I saw the whole thing about 6 times. Don’t try it on, pattie.
Corner Stone
That was ill advised. He can’t throw his guys into getting blown up.
Corner Stone
WHUH?!
ETA, that’s what I thought. It looked like it was tipped and still somehow got through.
redshirt
Vick looked real good on that last drive.
And damn Bell is just a flash of uniform.
mainmata
Sorry, I am going with the Steelers team not focusing on Vick. Because I am an institutional Steeler fan having grown up on them in the city. It’s a signal-noise ratio thing. Vick is admittedly the noise though I think he’s probably not torturing dogs anymore.
As to the game, Baltimore is 0-3 and really, desperately needs to win this game. So does Pittsburgh but for very different reasons.
Betty Cracker
@redshirt: I hope they go undefeated in the regular season and then choke in the Super Bowl again. It was awesome last time that happened. The surviving members of the 1972 Dolphins were laughing their asses off.
redshirt
@Betty Cracker:
Some local sports radio callers are hoping the Pats at least lose a game so they don’t have that pressure on them. It’s hilarious.
I hope the Pats never lose another game again.
lonesomerobot
If this blog is to any extent at all about equality and fairness then it has to be honest and acknowledge that Michael Vick has paid his debt to society; and in a fair society, we have to allow that person back into the fold. Furthermore, in the years since his incarceration, Vick has raised far more money for animal charities than this blog has, and regularly devotes his personal time to the cause.
I am in no way defending his crime. It is indefensible. But if we don’t allow people who have served time and paid their debt to society an opportunity to be forgiven, that just makes us a shitty country.
redshirt
@lonesomerobot: But we are a shitty country.
lonesomerobot
@redshirt: Oh yeah, you’re right. Never mind!
Betty Cracker
@efgoldman: Sadly, the college teams in the state ain’t all that this year either. I’m afraid my Gators might hit the buzzsaw this weekend. But maybe not!
redshirt
@lonesomerobot: I am pro-Vick, by the way. He’s the very definition of a reformed criminal, and we should embrace the example, not continue to spit at him.
And the focus on the dog crime is weird, really. More hate for this crime than murderers and rapists. What does that say?
Betty Cracker
@lonesomerobot: Fuck that noise. Vick did his jail time, and now he gets to pursue his chosen profession and make millions of dollars again — no one is saying otherwise. But I’m not required to forgive him, welcome him to the fold or wish him well.
He’s a fucking psychopath who tortured and killed defenseless animals for his personal amusement. That makes him an evil motherfucker. I’m glad that the process of burnishing his PR credentials results in raising money for animal welfare, but that doesn’t mean he’s not a sick, twisted fuck.
Forgive him? Bull-fucking-shit.
lonesomerobot
@redshirt: This. I’m not really a Vick fan, but the whole thing is just unfair. The guy paid his debt already. He is still paying for it.
redshirt
@Betty Cracker: Vick didn’t invent dog fighting Betty. He didn’t make a sport of it. He grew up in a culture where this was already present. Cast all the stones you want, but it is possible for someone to change. To reform.
If you don’t believe that, then why jail anyone? Kill them all, right?
lonesomerobot
@Betty Cracker: There’s a way you can do that without being an asshole. Just sayin’.
Joel
Well, I suppose the human rapist and the human murderer aren’t playing, since one is injured and the other is retired.
lonesomerobot
@Betty Cracker: Also, see efgoldman.
mainmata
Steelers defense snuffs trick fake field goal. You don’t see that often. But then Ravens snuff Vick. This is a vicious tug of war. Classic Steelers-Ravens (previous Colts) rivalry.
lonesomerobot
What, a Harbaugh whining about something? I can’t believe it.
Betty Cracker
@redshirt: Who said anything about “kill them all”? Not me. I said it’s appropriate that he got out of jail after serving his time and was able rejoin the workforce, so knock it off with the strawman, okay?
What I object to is the phony-ass requirement to “forgive” Vick or believe in his reform. I believe people who rob stores and steal cars, etc., can see the light and change. I don’t believe people who do something truly evil like hurt or abuse children or torture and kill pets are in the same category. I’m not required to consider them good people or root for their success.
@lonesomerobot: If despising people who torture and kill dogs makes me an asshole, so be it.
redshirt
@Betty Cracker:
Certainly not, but you might consider the rare occasion when someone does reform. Not that you have to root for them, but maybe not condemn them so vehemently.
Joel
I’ve only watched about two minutes of this thing and I can deduce that it’s clearly one of the worst games of all time.
redshirt
@Joel: There’s been far, far worse.
It hasn’t been that bad. And it might have a great ending.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: I am inclined to believe that reform is possible. OTOH, I tend to keep a very wary eye for a long time on people who have been horrible. And, if they were horrible about politics, I tend to have doubts about their judgment.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: Sure, that’s what probation is supposed to be about. But we should also celebrate those who pass through this system and turn out to be positive contributors towards society. Not treat them as lepers forever.
Joel
@Betty Cracker: Don Shula has been laughably butthurt about Bill Belichick for a long time now. It makes him look rather small, actually.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Probation and parole are about the justice system. I am talking about my personal opinion. I have no obligation to adopt the results of a trial or the completion of a sentence as the vindication of a person. To me, Vick seems sincere about his reform; I still would never buy his jersey.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: Gotchya. I’m no Vick fan or a fan of his teams, but from what I’ve read he does seem sincere and I think that’s important.
I also think the vehemence against him is an interesting example of how Americans often rank pets – specifically dogs – above people.
And we’re on to overtime!
Joel
@Omnes Omnibus: This is correct, and is a big reason why it annoys me so much that Ray Lewis is employed by ESPN.
redshirt
Wow, LeVeon Bell is just so fluid, so easy, so magnetic a runner. Totally unique in the NFL today.
Betty Cracker
@redshirt: Oh please. We “vehemently condemn” people all the time around here for disagreeing on relatively minor political points or being shitty journalists / pundits. If y’all want to buy the self-serving redemption story of a spoiled, rich asshole who personally hanged, electrocuted and drowned pet dogs and forced them to fight to the death for his amusement, go right ahead. I’ll pass.
As for ranking dogs above people, well, I’ll plead guilty to that, at least some of the time. People are often assholes. Dogs aren’t, not unless some asshole person mistreats them. I despise people who mistreat dogs as much as I hate people who abuse, insult or mistreat children.
Speaking of which, my 17-year-old just got back from her shift at the burrito factory and told me about some skeevy pervert who made an obscene phone call to her. If I knew where that bastard lived, I’d drive over there right now and introduce his testicals to my panini press. I guess that makes me a bad liberal.
Betty Cracker
Ravens FTW. Good game!
redshirt
Great game. Steelers choked it by not trying the kick, but then, their kicker does suck and probably would have missed it.
Slaughter
@redshirt: As John Wooden used to say, “Character is what you do when nobody is looking.” Vick could have humanely killed any dog that he deemed unfit to fight, but instead he took glee in torturing them before he killed them. He did not serve time for animal abuse; it was for the gambling. He’s a despicable human being.