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Travel Open Thread

by John Cole|  October 2, 20151:20 pm| 157 Comments

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The struggle is real today and I am only to Houston.  I need a coffee iv.

Ate a runny airport burrito while wearing a white polo,  so I am really bringing my derp A game with me today.

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  1. 1.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    Safe travels.

    Re airport food … ever try fasting for a day?

  2. 2.

    shell

    October 2, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    Is the weather mucking up the air travel?

  3. 3.

    AndyG

    October 2, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    There’s at least one Peets coffee in the terminals that should give you a caffeine boost. i usually go to the one in terminal C. Sorry about the shirt….

  4. 4.

    Corner Stone

    October 2, 2015 at 1:30 pm

    {waves at Cole}
    Welcome to God’s Country!

  5. 5.

    kdaug

    October 2, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    @Corner Stone: AKA, the armpit of Texas

  6. 6.

    Josie

    October 2, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    I hate the Houston airport (or maybe it’s just the airline I hate). I hope you have better luck than I have had.

  7. 7.

    John cole

    October 2, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    @Cervantes: I tried but nine hour

  8. 8.

    Corner Stone

    October 2, 2015 at 1:35 pm

    @kdaug: Better than Dallas, AKA the asshole of Texas.

  9. 9.

    Another Holocene Human

    October 2, 2015 at 1:36 pm

    @Cervantes: travel makes you sleepy, ramps up production of ghrelin, which gives you the munchies real bad.

    Plus you rarely have much time to make a decision in an airport. Those gut bacteria can be bossy.

  10. 10.

    Another Holocene Human

    October 2, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    @Josie: Is that the one with the triumphant larger than life bronze of GHWB?

  11. 11.

    lamh36

    October 2, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    “The struggle is real” look at u using hippity hippity slang..lol.

    If u start throwing around words like “shade” “THOT” and “trap Queen”…I’m giving u some serious side eye.

  12. 12.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    @John cole:

    That’s a long time.

    Anyhow, safe travels.

  13. 13.

    Another Holocene Human

    October 2, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    @kdaug:

    the armpit of Texas

    What’s the bunghole? East Texas? Gohmert!’s district?

  14. 14.

    lamh36

    October 2, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    Thread jacking cuz I just live sharing pics of my Lil niece

    Zoë says hello. she’s 2 months old today!

    https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/650000118335213568

  15. 15.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    Here’s Paul McCartney singing “Michelle” at the White House to the FLOTUS.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_fjhiPXbc
    What a moment!

  16. 16.

    Elizabelle

    October 2, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Yeah. That’s it. Suck down that caffeine, gallons of it.

    And then, in Cole fashion, you’ll be stuck in a middle seat and the seatbelt light will be on all the way home.

  17. 17.

    JPL

    October 2, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    @lamh36: Aah.. So sweet!

  18. 18.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    Très bien ensemble, indeed.

  19. 19.

    Elizabelle

    October 2, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    @lamh36: Somebody likes dressing that baby girl up.

  20. 20.

    JustRuss

    October 2, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    Re: your polo, I was recently re-assigned with extreme prejudice, which involved several meetings with my superiors discussing my shortcomings. At the end of the day I’m washing up in the bathroom and I see I have bright red splotch (salsa?) the size of a nickel on my shirt, right below the collar. Probably was sporting that all day. The frickin cherry on my Sundae of Fail.

  21. 21.

    justawriter

    October 2, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    If you think the burrito was runny when you ate it, just wait …

  22. 22.

    Poopyman

    October 2, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    @Another Holocene Human:

    the armpit of Texas. What’s the bunghole?

    All of it, Katie.

  23. 23.

    Poopyman

    October 2, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    @justawriter: Threadwin!

  24. 24.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 2, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    Should have gone with a less messy snack, like may be a salad.

  25. 25.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    @Poopyman: I remember encountering a crank who insisted Austin was the cesspool of the state, with the rest of it superior. I tried to tell him he was speaking in opposites, but he wouldn’t accept my assertion.

  26. 26.

    catclub

    October 2, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    @Cervantes: I bring a pack of nabs. Close enough.

  27. 27.

    donnah

    October 2, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    I fly about six times a year and while I used to enjoy it, now I dread it. United Airlines has become a non-choice for me after repeated overbooked flights, delays, cancellations, and misdirected luggage. But even my flight last weekend on American was delayed twice.

    I hate flying.

  28. 28.

    catclub

    October 2, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    Wasn’t Oct 1 when McDonalds made egg mcmuffin available at all times? I think i nearly heard that on business news.

  29. 29.

    Brachiator

    October 2, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    The struggle is real today and I am only to Houston.

    Hope it is not a long layover.

    I was in Las Vegas for an hour and a half while problems with a plane were addressed during a Los Angeles to Dallas flight. This was definitely a trial of my patience.

    Otherwise, travel and airports don’t bother me. But it sounds as if Cole cannot bear to be away from home for very long, and is not a very good traveler.

    Safe journeys.

  30. 30.

    burnspbesq

    October 2, 2015 at 2:02 pm

    There’s a Popeye’s in the Houston airport. A large side of red beans and rice hits the spot rather nicely for me when changing planes there.

  31. 31.

    Eric S.

    October 2, 2015 at 2:02 pm

    @donnah: I realize we are talking two of the biggest airlines but is Chicago your home base? I can’t decide which one is worse and O’Hare doesn’t make it any better.

  32. 32.

    Mike J

    October 2, 2015 at 2:02 pm

    Make sure you flip off the statue of Bush the smarter.

  33. 33.

    burnspbesq

    October 2, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    All airlines suck. Lufthansa is the least bad.

  34. 34.

    Anoniminous

    October 2, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    Nothing, nowhere, is as horrible as flying into Atlanta and then attempting to flee in another airplane.

    One of the true joys of my life is I no longer have to fly anywhere, at any time, for any reason.

  35. 35.

    bluefoot

    October 2, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: I really like the little bit of swing he’s put into it. Very nice.

    [Also: God, all these years and Paul McCartney’s singing voice can still make me melt. No matter how much toll time (and cigarettes) have taken on his vocal cords.]

  36. 36.

    kdaug

    October 2, 2015 at 2:08 pm

    @Poopyman: Not quite, jackass. There’s this little slice, right in the middle, with rolling hills, clean water, cool people, and lots of great music and food.

    Of course, the rest of the damned state hates us, but they suck, so fuck ’em

  37. 37.

    shell

    October 2, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    Your DIY for today. How to make homemade whipped cream in a cocktail shaker.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/panna-cooking-/homemade-whipped-cream-hack_b_8191880.html?1443453061?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000199&te=Food52

  38. 38.

    realbtl

    October 2, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    As usual Douglas Adams summed it up perfectly. “It can hardly be a coincidence that no language on Earth has ever produced the expression “As pretty as an airport.”

  39. 39.

    Oatler.

    October 2, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Never eat while flying. Never.

  40. 40.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    @bluefoot: I burned out on the Beatles and Paul specifically, but recently I’ve been rediscovering them. I grew up with the mish-mash U.S. Capitol Records versions of their albums. Two much reverb, weird wide stereo. I started listening to the original Parlophone releases. Better balance. And I love Paul’s live performances with his new band.

    Elvis Costello performed at the White House during the ceremony. He did “Penny Lane” and a thrill went through the audience when a member of the marine band recreated the piccolo trumpet solo.

  41. 41.

    Jim Kakalios

    October 2, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Thank you for “bringing my derp A game…” Commence stealing that line….now! As bad as your day may be, remember that you were able to toss off that little gem. Vaya con dios.

  42. 42.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    @realbtl:

    Eero Saarinen’s TWA terminal at JFK was not only pretty; it was positively beautiful.

  43. 43.

    Roger Moore

    October 2, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Lufthansa is the least bad.

    Have you taken them all? I was very impressed with Singapore Airlines- though the quality of service has to be higher for trans-Pacific flights, even for people in coach.

  44. 44.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    Was the runny burrito incident without consequences? Were you wearing pants?

  45. 45.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    @lamh36: So adorable! But so serious.

  46. 46.

    ? Martin

    October 2, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    @Cervantes: It still is: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2015/06/30/explore_the_twa_terminal_a_pristine_time_capsule_from_1962.php

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    Poopyman

    October 2, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    @WereBear: I assumed he ate it while standing, so his dunlap protected his pants. Hence his comment about the polo.

  48. 48.

    Roger Moore

    October 2, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Nothing, nowhere, is as horrible as flying into Atlanta and then attempting to flee in another airplane.

    I’ve done it, and it isn’t as bad as transferring from domestic to international at JFK. That involves changing terminals and hence leaving and re-entering security. Even before 9/11, the security “lines” were so long that it was basically a matter of putting everyone in a holding pen and then calling people to the front to be rushed through security when they were about to miss their flight.

  49. 49.

    bluefoot

    October 2, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: Yeah, the Capitol records definitely had some weird sound mastering going on. I took a bit of break from the Beatles in the 90s. Was just listening to them again on regular rotation when the mono remastered CDs were released. They were amazing. Finally I felt like I was listening to the Beatles as I remembered them from my youth (Parlophone import vinyl), not how I had been listening to them for the previous couple of decades.

    I find it can be easy to forget how good Paul is. He’s such a cliche that he’s easy to discount. But then I listen to a live recording, and *damn.*

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    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    I was very impressed with Singapore Airlines

    Internationally, whenever possible, I fly Swissair, Singapore, Lufthansa, Avianca, and South African Airways.

  51. 51.

    ? Martin

    October 2, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    @WereBear: In Cole’s case we should probably wish that his shirt caught the mess. If it hit the floor there’s a chance he’d take all his clothes off and start mopping.

  52. 52.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    @? Martin:

    Those are wonderful photographs. Thanks.

  53. 53.

    catclub

    October 2, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    @burnspbesq: I think if you can afford it, Some of the fancy Asian ones (Singapore, JAL) or Emirates are pretty nice. Even in coach, the Emirates plane had fake stars in the dark ceiling – nice touch.

  54. 54.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    @bluefoot:

    Which raises the question: Who on earth would mess with the Beatles’ music?

    Answer: A Capitol Records executive by the name of Dave Dexter Jr.

    When Capitol began issuing the group’s records in the states at the end of 1963, Dexter was given the task of overseeing the catalog. And he had some catching up to do: the Beatles had already released four singles and a full-length album in the U.K.

    The easiest—and most profitable—approach was to release albums with fewer tracks than the British versions. In this way, Capitol released eight Beatles albums in 1964 and 1965 to Parlophone’s four.

    But Dexter wasn’t happy with the sound of the Beatles’ records. He thought they sounded thin and dull compared to what was on the teen hit parade.

    His solution was to boost the high end and, in many instances, add reverb to make the songs sound more cavernous and dramatic. The reverb was especially useful on tracks that were electronically processed for stereo: the wash of ambience helped fill the midfield between the left and right channels.

    If you think that tampering with the Beatles’ music is akin to desecration, you’re not alone. For years, hardcore Beatle fans have railed against Dexter and Capitol’s tinkering, preferring the British releases for their purer sound and stronger track listings.

  55. 55.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    @bluefoot: My reply to you went into moderation, but basically a gentleman named Dave Dexter remixed the Beatle tracks, drenching them in reverb and using tacky wide stereo. He wanted them to sound more like records being released in the U.S. at the time.

    He was 49 at the time. Not even a rock fan. He only liked jazz.

  56. 56.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    Flying domestic with a US airline is as close as I want to come to being shipped UPS.

  57. 57.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 2, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    @burnspbesq: I took Virgin Atlantic when I flew to Mumbai last year from London. Their food was pretty good and as was their tea.

  58. 58.

    Matt McIrvin

    October 2, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    @Cervantes: His main terminal at Dulles is lovely too, and when they expanded it to double the original length they kept it consistent with the original design. (It doesn’t make the place any less annoying, though, and the old “mobile lounges” design for the airport was ill-conceived; fortunately that’s mostly gone now.)

  59. 59.

    realbtl

    October 2, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    @Cervantes: While it may be possible for an airport in the abstract to be beautiful, once you pack it full of cranky frazzled passengers any beauty is wiped out by the sheer level of frustration endured by the humans in it.

  60. 60.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    @WereBear: Key & Peele did an amusing sketch about a man who is bumped up to “Coach Plus” and is overly impressed with the “Luxury” (he is the same gentleman who is overly impressed with his “continental breakfast” in a different sketch).

  61. 61.

    catclub

    October 2, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    @WereBear: Steerage. mooooo

  62. 62.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 2, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    Authenticity, You are doing it wrong. My review of the first episode of Indian Summers.

  63. 63.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: A favorite Seinfeld episode was the contrast between Jerry in first class and Elaine in coach.

  64. 64.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    @WereBear: I always love watching Rick Steves Europe, but somehow I can’t imagine him flying coach to Germany or France.

    My coach experiences reminded me of the time I took a greyhound bus from florida to nj.

  65. 65.

    Brachiator

    October 2, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    I burned out on the Beatles and Paul specifically

    What? How can you say such a thing?

    To paraphrase … somebody … “when a person is tired of the Beatles, he is tired of life.”

    I think Sammy Johnson, the sixth Beatle said this.

  66. 66.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 2, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    @WereBear: I once got bumped up to business class on an international flight because I agreed to take an earlier flight. Each course was paired with a different wine and the food was served in real dishes and silver (no plastic stuff). The connecting flight which was in the cattle class was difficult to get used to!

  67. 67.

    Zattarra

    October 2, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    Go to PappaDeaux for some good seafood.

  68. 68.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    @Brachiator: Like a lost sheep, I strayed from the flock. But hearing the Parlophone releases and Paul’s live concerts returned me to the herd.

    I remember distinctly seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan (I was six years old) and I became an instant fan.

  69. 69.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    @realbtl:

    While it may be possible for an airport in the abstract to be beautiful, once you pack it full of cranky frazzled passengers any beauty is wiped out by the sheer level of frustration endured by the humans in it.

    If you were in that terminal in the ’60s and, regardless, feel the way you do, that’s one thing.

    I was in it, many times, and I loved being in it. Not only was there beauty everywhere you looked, it somehow made you feel at ease — in ways that today’s airport architecture, optimized differently, rarely does. Times have changed; what was possible then isn’t always achievable today.

  70. 70.

    ranchandsyrup

    October 2, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    wife had her appendix out a couple of weeks ago. i had a slip and fall last weekend and my hand is stitched up and my back is killing me. both our kids are sick. things are a mess at home right now. thanks for allowing me to vent for a second. we’re all in good spirits, oddly enough.

  71. 71.

    catclub

    October 2, 2015 at 2:45 pm

    Details emerging about the Oregon mass murderer indicates he was a right-wing gun nut who didn’t like organized religion

    So, an Ayn Rand fan.

  72. 72.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    October 2, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    @lamh36:

    Awwww. I think you wore her out with so much time in the spotlight. :-)

  73. 73.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 2, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: I wish a speedy recovery to all of you

  74. 74.

    shell

    October 2, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Aside from the pleasure of seeing Roshan Seth again, it was decidely ‘meh.’

  75. 75.

    the Conster

    October 2, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    @catclub:

    Even fucking weirder than the shooter, is the sheriff running the show in Roseburg posted a Sandy Hook truther video. The sheriff is a full blown loon. This won’t end well.

  76. 76.

    ranchandsyrup

    October 2, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: :)

  77. 77.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    October 2, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    My mom flew through Atlanta at least 3 or 4 times while my brother was terminally ill in Florida and her plane was delayed there EVERY time, which is probably why she’s now refusing to fly to California for the holidays. But I’m still sad she won’t do it.

  78. 78.

    Trentrunner

    October 2, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    And apparently the Roseburg sheriff heading the Umpqua investigation (the one who refuses to name the shooter) is a Sandy Hook truther:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/john-hanlin-sandy-hook-truther

    Hm.

  79. 79.

    piratedan

    October 2, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    @catclub: October 6th, per the ads I’ve seen is the launch date for McD’s having certain brekkie items available during non brekkie hours

  80. 80.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    October 2, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    Also, too, LAX is the worst major airport, hands down. There is no comparison. O’Hare is a model of convenience and accessibility by comparison.

  81. 81.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: My coach experiences reminded me of the time I took a greyhound bus from florida to nj.

    I’ve done that too!

    And at least on the bus you know you aren’t spending a lot of money.

  82. 82.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Dang!

    Well, I’ll have to try such. Sometime.

  83. 83.

    shell

    October 2, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    florida to nj.

    Back in my day, it was the other way around. Spring Break!

  84. 84.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 2, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    @shell: I like Lillette Dubey too, who is playing Roshan Seth’s wife. Unfortunately, neither had much to do.

  85. 85.

    catclub

    October 2, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): I agree with that. My only experience was searching for a connecting flight and figuring out in time it was in another terminal. This was years ago, so the ‘all passengers have an iphone, so lets not put up any information’ approach, was very early.

  86. 86.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    October 2, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    Being a young’un who was less than a year old when the Beatles officially broke up, I had never seen “A Hard Day’s Night” until I bought the Critereon disk last year. It holds up surprisingly well — Lester knew how to direct his non-actors.

  87. 87.

    ruemara

    October 2, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    I honestly would bring some apples & a good protein bar before I ate airport food. Everytime I get seriously ill, I traveled and ate in the airport.

    Confirmed my outdoor locations today and only half my cast has conflicting schedules for the clearly stated at time of audition shoot. I have never in my life wanted to develop a love relationship with the bottle quite as much. Plus side, people are interested in the next project. I just have to survive this one.

  88. 88.

    Gimlet

    October 2, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    I think they tinted his picture as well, compared to other ones on the internet.

    http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/

    A gunman singled out Christians, telling them they would see God in “one second,” during a rampage at an Oregon college Thursday that left at least nine innocent people dead and several more wounded, survivors and authorities said.

    “[He started] asking people one by one what their religion was. ‘Are you a Christian?’ he would ask them, and if you’re a Christian, stand up. And they would stand up and he said, ‘Good, because you’re a Christian, you are going to see God in just about one second.’ And then he shot and killed them,” Stacy Boylen, whose daughter was wounded at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., told CNN.

    A Twitter user named @bodhilooney, who said her grandmother was at the scene of the carnage, tweeted that if victims said they were Christian, “then they were shot in the head. If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs.”

  89. 89.

    realbtl

    October 2, 2015 at 3:13 pm

    @Cervantes: Hell, in the 60s (even into the early 90s) I actually enjoyed flying. Now it is only for those times say, Montana to HI where it is required, that I willingly fly if I can’t drive or take the train. As you say, times have changed.

  90. 90.

    NotMax

    October 2, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Rarely fly, but when do I get some slices of good pizza* before leaving and put them into individual sealed sandwich bags. Put those bags into the carry-on that fits under the seat. They’re already flat, so any crushing within the bag isn’t a problem. YMMV if not a fan of room temp pizza.

    *Mushroom or other (non-garlic) veggie. Sausage or pepperoni too odoriferous for the enclosed plane cabin.

  91. 91.

    Brachiator

    October 2, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    @catclub: RE: Details emerging about the Oregon mass murderer indicates he was a right-wing gun nut who didn’t like organized religion

    So, an Ayn Rand fan.

    Sounds like you’re projecting.

    Everyone is anxious to fit the shooter into a convenient box. Maybe. Maybe not. The LA Times has fallen down on the job in particular, with lots of lazy, pro forma reporting. The perpetrator lived in Torrance and has family in Southern California. It is still early, but there may be much more about the guy’s background to be uncovered.

    And I will note the family’s reasonable desire to avoid publicity, which makes it harder to get a full story.

  92. 92.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): I saw it during its original theatrical release. Girls in the audience were screaming every time their favorite Beatle was in close-up.

    A Hard Day’s Night had a great script. The “clean old man” angry at the British police. The marketing expert who corners George Harrison to get his opinions on the latest teen trends.

    It’s the Citizen Kane of juke box musicals, as one critic put it.

  93. 93.

    Southern Beale

    October 2, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    Tennessee’s awesome Lt. Governor weighs in on the Oregon shootings with some super awesome advice to “faithful Christians” and “defenders of the West.” This isn’t your crazy uncle yelling at the TV this is the fucking LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. What an embarrassment.

  94. 94.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    October 2, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    Fun fact I found out: the actor who plays the “clean old man” was at the same time starring in a British sitcom called “Steptoe and Son,” where he played the dirty owner of a junkyard, so all of those remarks were in-jokes for the UK audience.

    Anyone know what the sitcom was remade as in the US?

  95. 95.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 2, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Sanford And Son. It started out as a great show, but the scripts got more and more silly and formulaic, to the disappointment of Redd Foxx.

    I notice the grandfather in A Hard Day’s Night warns Ringo about the brutal British police and is generally a rebellious figure, but in the train scene, when confronted by the upper-class gentleman (who complained about sharing a compartment with the Beatles) the old man is obsequious.

    In the police station, the inspector refers to Ringo as an aborigine.

    Lester was a huge Buster Keaton fan, and the “Can’t Buy Me Love” scene in the field (where they are interrupted by the groundskeeper) looked to me like an homage to Keaton’s baseball fantasy in “The Cameraman”

    At one time Roger Ebert was teaching a class on “A Hard Day’s Night”

  96. 96.

    catclub

    October 2, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Sounds like you’re projecting.

    Well, that and snarking.

  97. 97.

    Roger Moore

    October 2, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    This isn’t your crazy uncle yelling at the TV this is the fucking LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

    So it’s the State of Tennessee’s crazy uncle.

  98. 98.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    @NotMax: I like those slim Jim/cheese combos.

  99. 99.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    @Roger Moore: Sigh. I’m no longer even surprised.

  100. 100.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 2, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    @ruemara: I do the same, I carry cereal bars, apples, cheese sticks, some nuts and water along with me when I am traveling.

  101. 101.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    People should consider not carrying nuts everywhere. Many kids are diagnosed allergic and you never know when it can become a problem.

    There are many allergies and one can’t accommodate all of them but this one is common, and crumbly little bits can end up where you wouldn’t want them to.

  102. 102.

    Brachiator

    October 2, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone):

    Anyone know what the sitcom was remade as in the US?

    Sanford and Son.

  103. 103.

    gbear

    October 2, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    My first time flying (Christmas day, 1974) is still the worst flying experience I ever had. We flew from MSP to SFO and just as we were coming in for a landing, the airport fogged over so no landing for us and back up we went (which caused heavy use of the airsick bags). We flew around for God knows how long until they finally landed us in Reno where we just wandered the airport aimlessly until they decided at about 10:00PM to put us all on Greyhound busses for SFO. The lady next to me chainsmoked the whole trip (this is a long time ago) while I looked out into the darkness thinking about how beautiful the stuff it was too dark to see must be. We arrived at SFO at about 2:00AM to find out that they had told the people waiting for us to just go home. We had to call my mom’s brother in Mountain View at about 2:30 in the morning to get up and come get us.

  104. 104.

    Gravenstone

    October 2, 2015 at 4:00 pm

    @burnspbesq: I miss the late, much lamented Midwest Airlines. All first class style seating, loads of legroom (quite necessary at 6’5″), great in flight meals and fresh baked cookies to cap the flight. Alas, a victim of consolidation. Of course, not having flown since 1999 …

  105. 105.

    trollhattan

    October 2, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    @catclub:
    At the moment, he seems eerily similar to Adam Lanza.

    A darker picture emerged Friday of slain Umpqua Community College shooter Chris Harper-Merger as a deeply troubled, anti-religion, anti-government recluse obsessed with guns.

    The U.S. Army discharged him just five weeks into basic training in 2008. Records indicate he graduated in 2009 from a high school catering to troubled and special-needs students. Multiple media sources reported Friday he left behind an angry note that is now in the hands of investigators.

    The Los Angeles Times said Harper-Mercer’s note was several pages long and talked about his anger and depression.
    Sofia Camarena of Long Beach, California, told The Oregonian/OregonLive that she used to date Harper-Mercer’s father.”I used to change Chris’ diapers when he was a baby,” she said, upset after learning that he was the shooter in Thursday’s massacre and was himself dead. “He was born with problems. He was hard to discipline. If you told him ‘no,’ he would scream like you had just hit him.”

    Camarena said that she had heard Harper-Mercer’s mother was having “a hard time” with him and that he attended a special school.

    Harper-Mercer graduated from The Switzer Center in 2009, according to a graduation listing in The Daily Breeze newspaper. Switzer Center is a private, nonprofit school in Torrance, California, geared for special education students with a range of issues from learning disabilities, health problems and autism or Asperger’s Disorder, according to the school’s website.

    There are a number of indications that Harper-Mercer had mental health or behavioral issues. His screen name on some social media sites was “lithium love.” Lithium is used as a psychiatric medication.

    A neighbor told The New York Times that Harper-Mercer’s mother had told a neighbor, “My son is dealing with some mental issues,” and was intolerant of roaches that had infested the building.

    The U.S. Army confirmed Friday it discharged Harper-Mercer just halfway through his 10 weeks of in basic training in 2008. “A review of Army records indicate that Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer was in service at Ft. Jackson, S.C., from 5 November-11 December 2008 but discharged for failing to meet the minimum administrative standards to serve in the U.S. Army,” said Lt. Col. Ben Garrett.

    Carried five pistols, an AR15 copy and wore body armor.

  106. 106.

    Brachiator

    October 2, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    Lester was a huge Buster Keaton fan, and the “Can’t Buy Me Love” scene in the field (where they are interrupted by the groundskeeper) looked to me like an homage to Keaton’s baseball fantasy in “The Cameraman”

    Cool cinematic reference! Now I am going to have to rent it again. I was sorry to have missed it’s theatrical re-release last year. Pristine prints shown on the big screen.

    Lester seemed to be well matched with the Beatles’ worldview. A piece in the New Republic also gives a great deal of credit to the screenwriter:

    United Artists assigned Walter Shenson as the producer, Richard Lester would direct, and Alun Owen was hired to do a script. The first two were Americans, with not much experience. Owen was the key guy: He was Welsh, but he’d been raised in Liverpool, and he’d written a television play, “No Trams to Lime Street,” which some of the Beatles had enjoyed. Moreover, Lester had worked with Owen on another TV show and they’d got on. Owen knew Liverpool language so he hung out with the Beatles, listening to the way they talked. The important thing, he felt, was to get their cheeky, snarky talk—the way any gang sounded, with much more familiarity than respect, needling, teasing, wisecracking, inflected with the amazed realization that they were the Beatles and everyone wanted them.

    Lester was also greatly influenced by Peter Sellers and Spike Milligan.

  107. 107.

    NotMax

    October 2, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    @gbear

    1961. Air trip from Hell.

  108. 108.

    Renie

    October 2, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    OT; when asked about the College shooting by the press, JEB said “stuff happens”. When asked to clarify he said “I said what I said”.

    WTF is this guy trying to lose?

  109. 109.

    Iowa Old Lady

    October 2, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    @trollhattan: I’m kind of intolerant of roaches too. That’s about the most normal thing there.

  110. 110.

    kdaug

    October 2, 2015 at 4:07 pm

    @ruemara: Not that everything isn’t important, but casting is the acid test (a solid cast can overcome damned near anything). Hoping you get a good draw

  111. 111.

    beltane

    October 2, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    @Renie: Jeb sure has the gift of no-empathy, must be a Bush family trait.

  112. 112.

    Gravenstone

    October 2, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    @Trentrunner: Perhaps someone should artfully ask him if the dead college students were faked as well? Somehow, I doubt he’d make the connection.

  113. 113.

    donnah

    October 2, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    @Eric S.:

    I live in Dayton, Ohio and fly thru O’Hare a lot. But I’ve been all over: Dallas, Detroit, Burlington, etc. I hate being at the mercy of money-grubbing airlines who overbook and overcharge. It makes air travel stressful and exhausting.

  114. 114.

    trollhattan

    October 2, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    @Renie:
    Jesus [not pronounced hey Zeus in this instance] He’s a boor and a clod; what the hell did Bar spike their formula with?

    “Now watch this drive.”

  115. 115.

    Gravenstone

    October 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    @shell: Took a charter bus to from Ohio to Florida for HS Spring Break. The driver took offense to one of the smaller guys making a nest for himself up among the overhead luggage rack and trying to sleep up there .

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    October 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    @beltane

    A thousand points of derp.

  117. 117.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    @Renie:

    is this guy trying to lose?

    Maybe it’s twelve-dimensional chess.

  118. 118.

    Gravenstone

    October 2, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Sanford and Son, of course. As the credits reminded everyone each episode.

  119. 119.

    Gravenstone

    October 2, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    @trollhattan: Gin?

  120. 120.

    Elizabelle

    October 2, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    @Renie: Are you guys watching the Obama presser?

    Jonathan Karl just asked him about Jeb’s remarks, and Obama said he didn’t even think he had to respond to that.

    He said he’d leave it to the American people if these mass shootings every few months is just “stuff happens.”

    WTG Jeb!

  121. 121.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    October 2, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    The actor uses his natural Irish accent for the role, so that’s supposed to clue you in that he’s an immigrant and hence his hatred for the police. I think there are a couple of other (very subtle) references to his Irishness (other than being Paul’s grandfather, of course).

  122. 122.

    Elizabelle

    October 2, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    Taking on the politics that enables no solution on gun safety. It’s going to be a good issue.

    Just mentioned some think it’s a plot by him to stay in power forever. Says some of the wildest theories are ratified by those in the other party (as in elected officials).

    Tells people who want gun control they need to be a single issue voter, because that’s what they are up against on the other side.

    Says American ppl are going to have to match the NRA in their sense of urgency if they want to stop the [mass shootings]. Says there will still be violence, but not as much if people don’t have access to these kinds of weapons.

  123. 123.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    October 2, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    @Brachiator:
    @Gravenstone:

    What can I say? Sometimes I wonder if anyone reads my movie comments, so I’lol toss in a question. I’m a little insecure sometimes.
    :-s

  124. 124.

    trollhattan

    October 2, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    @Gravenstone:
    Quite possibly. That and thorazine.

  125. 125.

    Elizabelle

    October 2, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    Re raising the debt ceiling. “We’re not going back there.” Explains what the debt ceiling is. “Historically, we do not mess with it.”

    Says we have to get the debt ceiling raised in 5 weeks, even though have ten weeks for CR. Says he and congressional leaders have spoken about how to resolve; he sees a path.

  126. 126.

    ruemara

    October 2, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    @Cervantes: You can get peanuts on the flight.

  127. 127.

    Elizabelle

    October 2, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    Wants to leave out extraneous issues. Brings up PP. “You can’t have an issue like that wreck the whole economy, any more than I can hold the govt hostage over gun control. I feel just as strong about that.”

    To defund PP: pass a law and override my veto. But, you have to govern. I am hoping the next Speaker understands that the problems Boehner and McC had in [pursuing crazy ideas] was not that they did not care about conservative principles. It is that they could not do it. Speaks of compromise. Speaks of not “throwing a tantrum.”

  128. 128.

    Elizabelle

    October 2, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    Interesting answer about using the bully pulpit re gun violence.

    Discussion of violence rates; says Americans are not necessarily more violent than other cultures. Diff is we have guns. It’s not a problem of American character. Says young males are more violent than other groups … talks of “My Brother’s Keeper.” Says some crimes are young males using guns rather than fighting to solve problems. (Implied answer re “Chicago” problem rightwing is so fond of.)

  129. 129.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    @ruemara:

    Sometimes, I’m sure — but that’s no reason to make the problem worse everywhere.

  130. 130.

    Brachiator

    October 2, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    @Mnemosyne (tablet):

    What can I say? Sometimes I wonder if anyone reads my movie comments,

    The occasional movie and TV reference is a bit of a refresher, especially given the tragedies this week.

    BTW, Have avoided detailed reviews, but I am hearing good things about Ridley Scott’s The Martian, so will give it a go this weekend.

    At work, a rare slow day, so we have been riffing on Martians in the media. I win since I can trump recent stuff like John Carter of Mars with stuff from way back, Marvin the Martin in WB cartoons, and movies like Invaders from Mars, The Angry Red Planet, Robinson Crusoe on Mars, and tv’s My Favorite Martian (rerun on one of the digital broadcast channels).

  131. 131.

    Iowa Old Lady

    October 2, 2015 at 4:56 pm

    @Brachiator: I liked the book. I don’t have much hope of talking Mr IOL into going to an actual theater, but I’m going to try.

  132. 132.

    Renie

    October 2, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    @Elizabelle: WOW, I didn’t see that. Glad word is getting out on Jeb’s horrible statement. The President is right, there is no way to respond to that.

  133. 133.

    Frankly

    October 2, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    I had 2 comments both pithy and hilarious but i screwed up because my new phone didn’t have my name and email. Oh well. However this frozen caveman lawyer also screwed up by sswitching my new phone to the non mobile format so I could see a link. Now I don’t know how to get it back to the mobile version. Anybody help a grandpa out?

  134. 134.

    Brachiator

    October 2, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    @Renie:

    I liked the book. I don’t have much hope of talking Mr IOL into going to an actual theater, but I’m going to try.

    I haven’t had a chance to finish the book, but I like what I have read so far.

    I will sometimes catch a morning showing to avoid the worst crowds. But I have always loved movies and like seeing them in a theater on a big screen.

  135. 135.

    WereBear

    October 2, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    @Frankly: Should be a switch at the very bottom of the screen.

  136. 136.

    Suzanne

    October 2, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    Hahaha, it cracks me up to see so many people complaining about airport design. Up until last year, I worked for one of the largest aviation architecture firms in the world. I enjoyed working on hangars, especially for the big planes, but terminals made me want to end it all. Terminals are awful. I have seen more bowels of more airports than I can stand. LAX is a particular shithole. If you are ever cavity searched for drugs at LAX, know that I designed the room you’ll have the procedure performed in.

    I used to have to fly out before 6am, would work all day at the airport, then fly back home—all without ever crossing security.

    I quit that fucking job.

  137. 137.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 5:22 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Thanks a lot!

  138. 138.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 2, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Sanford and Son.

  139. 139.

    Elizabelle

    October 2, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    @gbear: Oh god, that sounds awful. Funny in the retelling, but awful. And no cell phones, so of course those in SFO had no idea what was up.

  140. 140.

    bluefoot

    October 2, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    @Brachiator: That’s the thing I love about A Hard Day’s Night – the rapid-fire wit that zips by so quick that you can miss it if you’re not paying attention. There’s a lot going on in the movie under the surface, and it’s all incredibly funny.

  141. 141.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 2, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Lester was also greatly influenced by Peter Sellers and Spike Milligan.

    George Martin produced Peter Seller material earlier in his career.

  142. 142.

    ruemara

    October 2, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    @Cervantes: Good for you. I congratulate you on doing as you wish.

  143. 143.

    Frankly

    October 2, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    @WereBear:

    Yes, there should be but I’m not seeing it

  144. 144.

    J R in WV

    October 2, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    @bluefoot:

    For Paul McCartney music is like breathing – he just does it without even thinking, and it is what it is. He and Lennon are both geniuses, supreme beings of sound. Nearly everything they did together and apart as young men is wonderful, in it’s genre. Most covers are pretty good too if done by a gifted musician.

    Of course for Lennon the proper verb might be were, except that he still lives through his work, the music lives on forever, effectively.

    @Cervantes:

    The TWA terminal is being turned into a grand hotel, according to a story I read recently, but which now evades my google fu…

    Our favorite airline has become Air France, wonderful food with real wine for all. And the Terminal at Charles De Gaulle aiport in Paris is a work of art, waiting for our flight was painless… Of course, that was now 3 or 4 years ago, our last flight was from here to Key West. Not the same at all. Not flying all that much, sadly. I love to travel…

    John Ellis Bush is just like all the other bushes – they must have their empathy removed at birth when they’re circumcised. No wonder Bush did more damage than any other president in history, a total lack of empathy evidently leads to monstrous decision making.

  145. 145.

    Brachiator

    October 2, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Hahaha, it cracks me up to see so many people complaining about airport design. Up until last year, I worked for one of the largest aviation architecture firms in the world. I enjoyed working on hangars, especially for the big planes, but terminals made me want to end it all. Terminals are awful.

    Wait a minute. Hangars are more important than terminals? Vehicles over peoples? Sigh.

    Why do terminals have to be so crappy. Before some health issues slowed me down, I loved travelling. Got to admit some aging train stations are still beautiful, and there is no reason that air terminals should not be more inviting. Is it a super utilitarian thing, the idea that people will be (theoretically) swiftly boarded onto planes, so the terminals don’t matter?

  146. 146.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    October 2, 2015 at 6:19 pm

    @Frankly:

    On my (Android) phone it’s not a switch but a pretty big text banner at the very bottom (below the copyright notice): “Switch to mobile version.”

  147. 147.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    October 2, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    @Suzanne:

    My in-laws (brother and mother) flew into LAX to visit us a few years ago and ended up walking all the way down to baggage claim before they could find a bathroom in the American terminal. You know, the terminal where the entrance to the bathroom is through the same entrance that takes you through the boarding gate, so you have to make a very sharp right if you’re not trying to get onto that plane.

  148. 148.

    stinger

    October 2, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    @Elizabelle: Elizabelle, thanks for doing this!

  149. 149.

    PurpleGirl

    October 2, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    There is bank branch building on Queens Blvd that was built in the spirit of the TWA terminal. It has a similar flying roof. It was empty for some years and it seemed that it would be demolished. There was a group that wanted it landmarked, I’m not sure if it was. Then recently Bank of America took it over, did some renovation/restoration and opened a branch. I haven’t looked closely at it but I’m happy it wasn’t demolished. It has great lines and does feel like it’s about fly off.

  150. 150.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Air France is nice but their safety record is not the best.

    PS: I’m with you on Lennon & McCartney. Then again, who isn’t?

  151. 151.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    @ruemara:

    Good for you. I congratulate you on doing as you wish.

    I have no idea what you mean.

  152. 152.

    WaterGirl

    October 2, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    @Cervantes: I thought it was pretty clear! Perhaps it was so polite that you missed the meaning.

  153. 153.

    machine

    October 2, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    Dang it, Cole. If I had known I could brought you some awesome ‘cue during your layover.

  154. 154.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 7:29 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I thought it was pretty clear! Perhaps it was so polite that you missed the meaning.

    Anything’s possible.

    Feel free to explicate that which was pretty clear to you.

  155. 155.

    WaterGirl

    October 2, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    @Cervantes: I can’t speak for ruemara of course. But the comment from you that engendered that response from ruemara could be taken as kind of preachy, as telling her what she should do. I took her reply to you to mean that you are free to do as you wish, and she is free to do what she wishes, and that perhaps she wasn’t thrilled by you seeming to be telling her what to do.

    And I thought there might be a little bit of “bless her heart” in there, too.

    That’s it for me, I am headed out.

  156. 156.

    Cervantes

    October 2, 2015 at 10:25 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Thanks for trying to explain.

    But the comment from you that engendered that response from ruemara could be taken as kind of preachy, as telling her what she should do.

    That comment of mine, occasioned by her noting that airlines themselves provide peanuts to passengers, said the following: “Sometimes, I’m sure[, they do] — but that’s no reason [for us] to make the problem worse everywhere.”

    How is that “telling her what she should do”? It’s simply a reiteration of my earlier: “People should consider not carrying nuts everywhere.” That’s “preachy”?

    Bizarre.

    I took her reply to you to mean that you are free to do as you wish, and she is free to do what she wishes, and that perhaps she wasn’t thrilled by you seeming to be telling her what to do. And I thought there might be a little bit of “bless her heart” in there, too.

    Bizarre again.

  157. 157.

    Mnemosyne

    October 3, 2015 at 3:22 am

    @Cervantes:

    You really seem to be having reading comprehension problems today. In the thread above, you thought I was wondering how people could get voter IDs when I was talking about drivers licenses, and now you seem to think that “I suspect X” and “X is a fact” are identical statements.

    I suspect that there is no Democrat who voted for the PPACA and also has an “A” rating from the NRA. If any NRA defenders want to prove my suspicion wrong by checking their database, they are certainly welcome to do so. However, I have no qualms about labeling the NRA as a politically motivated lobbying group closely tied to the Republican Party that works primarily on behalf of Republicans, so I suspect (that word again!) that Republicans are always given higher NRA ratings than Democrats. If any of the abovegoing statement is incorrect, feel free to prove me wrong.

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