Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

People are complicated. Love is not.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

“Squeaker” McCarthy

This blog will pay for itself.

Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.

The GOP is a fucking disgrace.

Consistently wrong since 2002

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

The words do not have to be perfect.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

Bark louder, little dog.

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marvel oct 15 Peas

From faithful garden correspondent Marvel:

Early Fall in the Wilammette Valley has been mild and wonderful. Clear, sunny skies, cool breezes, sparkling sun. We’ve eaten the last of our vine-ripened tomatoes, juiced & ‘sauced all our apples and dug up all the potatoes.

marvel oct 15 Broccoli

Most recently, we’ve been filling up on a robust bunch of veggies from the Fall garden, plucking side-shoots and mature leaves from the broccoli and the latest generation of lettuce.

marvel oct 15 Lettuce

The cabbages are ’bout ready to split so we’ve been chopping them up and trying new saute recipes. Next week I’ll start harvesting the purple cabbage — I’ve got a sweet ‘n sour soup in mind. Lots of it.

marvel oct 15 Cabbage

The orange caulifower are just starting to peek out of their protective jungle and I hope to start plucking a few within the next couple of weeks. We like to chop ’em up, toss them with some olive oil and salt & pepper, then roast (450) the living daylights out of them ’til they’re all crispy and brown around the edges.

marvel oct 15 Cauliflower

The greenhouse peppers (mostly sweet, a few hot) have been appearing at a slow but steady pace for a few months now. We’ve dried some hot ones and frozen the sweeties and hope to see several more mature before everything slows way down for the Winter.

marvel oct 15 Peppers

Finally, a late-season crop of shelling peas [top photo] is starting to look promising. We lost the lot of ’em during a brief and nasty hot spell at the beginning of Summer. I’ve got the butter and mint lined up and ready for the first few pods to plump up — we’re READY!

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What’s going on in your gardens this week?

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141Comments

  1. 1.

    RedDirtGirl

    What beautiful pix to wake up to! I am on day 7 of a detox cleanse, and am off to my local food coop to stock up on more healthy veggies, legumes, fish and nuts.

  2. 2.

    Pie Happens (opiejeanne)

    Just gorgeous! Your pictures are wonderful and so is your garden. We are just a few miles east of Seattle but our weather is very different from yours.
    Our garden looks a bit like hell right now because it’s starting to shut down. We can still find nice tomatoes and a cucumber now and then, as well as a zucchini or two, but most of our garden is over. We are clearing the beds, and I know I should be replanting with peas, spinach, carrots, etc. I just haven’t gotten started because we have some critters who are raiding the garden, and while there is plenty for them and us and the neighbors, the damage they leave is disheartening. We had beautiful little cabbages that are being eaten by something, shrews?, meadow voles? The raccoons and the squirrels are getting quite a few of the apples, but they’ve been pretty decent about leaving the better ones alone and eating the unripe ones that fell off the tree too early.
    I think I’m a little disheartened by the mess, and ready to let it all sleep until spring.

    There are some nice pumpkins still lurking in the future rose garden. almost forgot them.

  3. 3.

    satby

    The harvest is winding down here in Michiana, my last tomato plants were knocked over by a critter with a taste for green tomatoes and the farmers are selling the last of their produce and starting to harvest the corn and soybeans. My exchange daughters are dazzled by the fall colors on the maples though we’re far from peak color, and since I love leaf peeping it’s fun to have companions who are seeing it live for the first time.

    OT, but I am trying to set up my etsy shop for the holiday season and need some feedback, which would you prefer: lower item prices or free shipping when you buy online?

  5. 5.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    There appears to be water falling from the sky. Should I be concerned or should I panic?

  6. 6.

    Viva BrisVegas

    We’re just moving into our warm season. Expecting 33 degrees tomorrow. The garden is dry and getting drier, El Nino is kicking in.

    Not that there are many followers here, but the Rugby League Grand Final just finished in Sydney. 17-16 Townsville Cowboys over Brisbane Broncos in overtime. Good game.

    By the way this is a different sport to Rugby Union.

  7. 7.

    OzarkHillbilly

    After you forced hiatus Anne, it is nice to have garden threads again and as always Marvel, I hate you and your perfect garden. ;-)

    In addition to the Brussels sprouts, I only planted various lettuces and spinach for the Fall. Everything else is either done (tomatoes, beans) or finishing up (peppers, eggplants).

    I dug up my potatoes 2 weeks ago and was surprised at how well I did with the Yukons, Fingerlings, Red Nortons, All Reds, and Blues. Between the rust and the lack of mulch I was not expecting much. My sweet potatoes fared much better, although for the 2nd year in a row the Porto Ricos were a mess: Black from the soil (on the outside-just unappetizing), split to all get out, and better than half were chewed up by critters. The Vardemon were head and shoulders better: Good color, very little splitting, not much critter damage, nicely sized and just the right amount of sweetness with a good rich flavor. The PRs just aren’t working here and next year I’ll try a different variety in their stead, but the Vs are here to stay.

    I’ve got a full week ahead of me, not least of which is picking up a load of manure for the garlic bed. Got to get them planted next week.

  10. 10.

    MomSense

    Beautiful photos, Marvel!

    Montauk daisy is about to bloom and this week I’m looking forward to lots of squash in my farm share. It has been coooold at night and I’ve got a lot to do to get ready for winter.

  11. 11.

    Mustang Bobby

    What a beautiful garden and what great photos.

    It’s finally getting to the dry season in South Florida. This morning for the first time since May it’s cooler outside the house than in it, and yesterday when I did some mild yard work (hosing down the patio, checking on the orchids), I didn’t break out in a sweat before getting to the hose coil.

  12. 12.

    satby

    @Mustang Bobby: Define cooler ;)
    The weather here has been in the 60s and last two days 50s with wind, and my girls are freezing. I don’t turn my heat on until temps make the house colder than 63, so they’re learning to layer. Going to warm back up again this week, but after that I’m probably going to crack and turn the heat on for them. And keep it warmer than my usual temp in the house. A little bit anyway… I still have to live here and past 68 I feel stifled.

  14. 14.

    p.a.

    I have one late blooming hot cherry pepper plant with fruits swelling so fast I think it can read the calendar. Doubt they’ll redden, but most will still be harvestable within the next week, week + 1/2. It’s fun that each fruit is unpredictable; some have all their heat in the seeds and glands, some in the flesh too.

  20. 20.

    Cervantes

    @satby:

    My exchange daughters are dazzled by the fall colors on the maples though we’re far from peak color, and since I love leaf peeping it’s fun to have companions who are seeing it live for the first time.

    Glad they have some beauty to appreciate along with all the other “stuff” they’re seeing here live for the first time. (If “live” is the word I want.)

    My best regards to them — and you, of course.

  23. 23.

    Glidwrith

    That cabbage frightens me – it looks like it is about to open its mouth like Audrey in “Little Shop of Horrors”.

  24. 24.

    satby

    @Cervantes: Thanks Cervantes! So far so good. Hopefully the goofy charms of living with an aging hippie prone to impulsive fun offset the more, uh rustic, aspects of living in a tiny house with a perpetually broke pet rescuer.

    They were so excited to tie dye, for instance. Who knew?

  26. 26.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Talk about chutzpah, who said,

    “I’m looking the other day and other people have noticed this too. And they’re all men. It’s like, where are the women? Now, Not all, but they’re mostly men. Right? And they’re also very strong men. These are not people. The first thing I said is, ‘these are men strong, strong men. Why are they not back fighting for their country?‘”

  28. 28.

    Cervantes

    @satby:

    They were so excited to tie dye, for instance. Who knew?

    Have you built a camp-fire yet and made s’mores?

  32. 32.

    Glidwrith

    @Cervantes: I offered once to bring s’mores to a company BBQ and was confronted by the fact that not one of my co-workers -not even one in a group of over twenty people- were actually born in the U.S.

    None of them knew what s’mores were.

    And now that I think of it, none of the folks I’m currently working with were born here either. Hmmmm…maybe I should introduce them to this Great American Tradition.

  33. 33.

    henqiguai

    @debbie (#30):

    Your link doesn’t work. Who’s the idiot?

    Granted there are *so* many from which to choose, but in this instance it’s Trump.

  37. 37.

    Schlemazel

    Apparently no longer content to just cause brain damage with its players the NFL has decided to put a game on at 8 o’clock on Sunday morning

  39. 39.

    Phylllis

    @JPL: We’re under a flash flood warning right now, but it’s actually not raining hard at all. Radar show us (about 80 miles northwest-ish of Charleston) at the bottom edge of the rain band.

    ETA: Weather Channel reporting 14 inches of rain in Charleston.

  40. 40.

    Shakezula

    That’s a beautiful cauliflower.

    Thanks for the reminder than I need to throw some snow pea (seeds) in the dirt. This year I discovered the joys of eating the greens. Like, duh, how come I never thought of that before?

    It got cold quickly here (from mid 80s to low 50s in about a day) and I doubt it is going to get hot (above the low 80s) here again until next summer.

    The only other thing of note is that the pumpkin vines produced a grand total of 4 pumpkins (frowny face) and some sort of nasty stem-boring beast has gotten at them so Mr. S can carve those.

    p.s. Lesson learned this summer: Do not grow squash within 30 miles of a pumpkin vine unless you want some freaky-deaky looking squash.

  41. 41.

    Schlemazel

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    I assume many of them were sent to expensive military boarding schools which is exactly the same as defending their country.
    I mean, it worked for Dump.

  42. 42.

    beth

    @JPL:

    Hopefully our Carolina friends are staying dry inside.

    I’ve got three buckets going in my house to contain leaks that I didn’t know I had. I predict roofers are going to be very busy in the Charleston area. We’ve got about 8 inches of water in the backyard, a sewage leak in the neighborhood, and there’s a huge puddle down the block that my daughter’s car floated through when she came home from work this morning. It looks like a good day to stay home and watch movies (or read if the power goes out again).

  44. 44.

    Josie

    Beautiful garden pics. I am jealous to the max. I also enjoyed the Hillary video.

    Today is my 72nd birthday. I am mentally mapping out the things that are really important for me to accomplish in the years remaining to me – help raise my 6 week old granddaughter, plant and care for a successful vegie garden and some day have some chickens. I used to have an aviary and bred cockatiels and gouldian finches. They are all gone and I have downsized. Now I would like to try chickens. Oh, and I would also like to learn how to can fruits and vegies.

  51. 51.

    raven

    Great pix! We don’t know how the garden is other than badly overgrown. In watching the wipe out of the dawgs on the tube from Laguna we know that it poured most of the day. I don,t have a card reader but, when we get home, I have some great pic of succulents grown in the planters along the strand in Manhattan Beach. There are all these swanky houses built right on the walkway and people have a small stripe of land where they grow stuff.

  54. 54.

    bemused

    In the far north, we’ve had low 30’s and some frost for about a week. Sunny/50’s today, so need to tidy up garden beds, stow away planters and plant garlic.

    @Phylllis:

    Our sunday morning ritual.

  55. 55.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Josie: Happy birthday to you! Love hearing your plans.

    Re Trump. Colbert reported that before he was shipped to military school, Trump punched a music teacher because “I didn’t think he knew anything about music.” That detail confirmed my belief that Trump is a sociopath. That is just not normal.

  56. 56.

    Schlemazel

    @bemused:
    To cerebral not enough CTE I guess.

    Used to enjoy the Sunday Morning open threads- less guilt for me not having to see these beautiful gardens!

  60. 60.

    Schlemazel

    @Iowa Old Lady:
    I remember years ago, long before he was well known outside NYC, reading that bridge workers would relieve themselves off the bridge they were working on when his boat was passing underneath.

    At the time I wondered what a guy could do to have that much animosity for him. Wish I could still say that

  64. 64.

    MomSense

    Did Putin really decide to go all in on the quagmire that is Syria? This seems like a yooooge mistake on his part.

  66. 66.

    satby

    @Glidwrith: For dietary reasons you may want to get kosher (aka halal) marshmallows, since strict vegans and Muslims can’t have regular ones due to the gelatin used to make them.

  71. 71.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Josie:

    help raise my 6 week old granddaughter,

    My grand daughter is the best gift I have ever received. Just a constant joy. Make the lost of every minute.

  72. 72.

    Cervantes

    @Schlemazel:

    I remember years ago, long before he was well known outside NYC, reading that bridge workers would relieve themselves off the bridge they were working on when his boat was passing underneath.

    Reminds me of this:

    “Donald Trump was right,” the two men said, according to [Boston] police, as they beat the [homeless] man with a metal pipe and then urinated on him. “All these illegals need to be deported.”

    Trump tweeted on Friday that the incident was “terrible.” “We need energy and passion, but we must treat each other with respect,” Trump said.

    “Trump said.”

    Meanwhile:

    For the most part, you can’t respect people because most people aren’t worthy of respect.

    Trump said this, too — of course.

  73. 73.

    JPL

    @raven: Be prepared for mud. Athens has been receiving steady rain. I’ve had drizzle with occasional showers. So far today, it’s just cloudy and windy.

  76. 76.

    Schlemazel

    @MomSense:
    Don’t see how he can lose. Gets to pretend to be part of the WoT, keeps his military in working order, vexes the West and demonstrates to others that he is an ally they can count on. Nobody is going to stop him and if Assad fallls Putin walks away unscathed.

  80. 80.

    Cervantes

    @MomSense:

    Did Putin really decide to go all in on the quagmire that is Syria? This seems like a yooooge mistake on his part.

    He’s doing it in order to have more of a say in what comes next.

    (It may still be a mistake, of course.)

  82. 82.

    beth

    @Josie: Happy Birthday! And what an ambitious list – I hope to have that much energy when I’m 72. Congratulations on the grandbaby too.

  84. 84.

    Cervantes

    @Josie:

    Seriously? There is someone on here older than I am?

    “Oh, to be 80 again” was a favorite song of the late Nathan Birnbaum.

    (You may have known him better as “George Burns.”)

  85. 85.

    Josie

    Wow! Thanks to everyone for the good wishes. My granddaughter is the delight of my life. After raising three sons, holding her is like holding a doll.

    I know that freezing is less messy than canning. I may decide it is not for me, but I would like to try it, especially with tomato sauce (if I could ever grow decent tomatoes) and sugarless fruit jams and jellies.

    ETA: There is an automatic video ad on the site now that is driving me crazy, changing the screen and eating comments. Grrrr.

  91. 91.

    Riley's Enabler

    @satby:I’ve always found your prices very reasonable. Free shipping is a lovely bonus, but I’d buy without it. Any new holiday scents? The pumpkin is divine, truly.

  92. 92.

    Phylllis

    @bemused: Mine for years as well. Miss the regular ‘Sunday Morning’ thread that disappeared with no explanation from here ages ago.

  93. 93.

    Schlemazel

    @Phylllis:
    I’m surprised someone hasn’t bitched that there is no NFL thread yet.

    I thought I was the only one missing that thread but I guess not. I enjoy the garden thread so it’s not a complete loss

  94. 94.

    BR

    @David Koch:

    Hillary was hilarious on SNL

    Hmm..I don’t meant to be negative but that wasn’t particularly funny (neither Clinton or the others in the sketch). It was sort of the usual from SNL.

  96. 96.

    Schlemazel

    @BR:
    Meh, I laughed, the audience laughed. That’s at least one more person than usually laugh at SNL sketches recently

  100. 100.

    Schlemazel

    @BR:
    I particularly liked the part where they dinged her for slow walking her support for gay marriage. They did it very cleverly and she responded perfectly.

  101. 101.

    Cervantes

    @Schlemazel:

    expensive military boarding schools

    The one Trump attended is now … bankrupt. (I could not have made that up.)

    Other former students: Johnny Mandel, Francis Ford Coppola, Stephen Sondheim, and John Gotti’s son, John Angelo.

  103. 103.

    Baud

    Trump out-Jebs Jeb! again.

    “I can tell you people say ‘Oh, we’re going to stop it,’ it doesn’t work that way,” Trump said. “This has taken place whether it’s this type of crime or other crimes, taken place forever, from the beginning, and you go out a million years from now you’re going to have problems and even if you have a very tough system you’re going to have people that slip through the cracks, and it’s a very sad situation.”

    “But no matter what you do you will have problems and that’s the way the world goes,” he added.

  105. 105.

    newdealfarmgrrrlll

    Beautiful garden, Marvel!

    My gardens & yard are a messy disaster. Last year, despite pain, I was able to get a fair amount done. This year the pain was so bad I managed next to nothing and finally took myself to the doctor and physical therapy. Welp, wasn’t just piriformis syndrome … also severe arthritis in my left hip, no cartilage left in the joint. I had a left hip replacement mid-August and oh my goodness! So nice to walk without pain! So I am already scheming about seedlings, veggies, native shrubs, habitat.

    Next year’s garden will be my best ever! *cough*

  109. 109.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Baud:

    You mean like with wild white hair flying everywhere and glasses crooked on his nose with one earpiece held on with a safety pin because the little screw fell out and a badly-tied cravat and some disgusting unidentifiable food stain on his shirt?

    IQist.

  111. 111.

    schrodinger's cat

    @Cervantes: David Griffiths’s Revolutions in 20th Century Physics is pretty good and it is a slim volume. Also, Feynman Lectures, although that can get too technical for a lay person.

    Or a copy of Einstein’s works in translation.

  112. 112.

    Kay

    The rise of anti-establishment candidates and Marco Rubio – and the re-emergence of Jeb Bush – have stalled Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s momentum in New Hampshire, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll shows.
    Kasich, who a month ago sat in second place, behind real estate mogul Donald Trump, does not rank among the Republican presidential field’s top 5 this time

    I’m still not seeing how having so many candidates helps Republicans. I think primaries are (generally) good in terms of Party politics and I still don’t see how this many candidates helps. With as nutty as their base is, it’s just chaos and there could be real repercussions when it all shakes out because some of these people who might be competitive in a general will not be able to stick around while 10 people who won’t be competitive do a vanity/grifter tour. It sure didn’t help Romney when Santorum and Huckabee and Gingrich grifted for 6 months in 2012. I don’t even know what happened to Michele Bachmann and she sucked up a lot of air in 2012. Was that a great investment for the GOP? I don’t think so.

  113. 113.

    Esme's Mom

    @satby: Yeah, I’m with Riley’s Enabler – your soap has just about replaced whatever it is we used to use. Getting ready for a fall restock and looking forward to using the doggie bath time soap on Esme. As she stands here trying to get me away from the big square light.

  115. 115.

    Ejoiner

    Hey! We’re on the Weather Channel! They keep showing shots around Columbia of the massive flooding – which is weirdly just a few blocks from my house. And I just ran to the grocery store no problem and got some supplies in case our situation gets worse. Lots of friends and co-workers having to move into shelters and local schools (which are also flooding as well).

  116. 116.

    Anoniminous

    @Kay:

    When the enemy is making a mistake break out the popcorn. I love the fact the GOP is imploding. I hope it continues all the way through the primaries, their convention, and into the actual election.

  118. 118.

    scav

    @Cervantes: And a sincere thanks to Tom L for a pointer toward Matsuo Basho. That looks to be captivating. Between chasing that (and background / context for same) and Doctor Who I should be able to distract myself from picking at much of the hysteria. And if Basho sweeps me into another immersion in Genji, I could be out for a solidly decent time. Ohh, grand.

  120. 120.

    Anoniminous

    @Baud:

    He is up to 10% in the latest Ipsos/Reuters poll.

    UNLIMITED CORPORATE BRINK’S TRUCK BENJAMIN CASH!!!!

  122. 122.

    Cervantes

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    David Griffiths’s Revolutions in 20th Century Physics is pretty good and it is a slim volume.

    Excellent choice for a non-expert: tested by having been taught to undergraduates for years; certainly more up-to-date (2012) than the Russell (1925); and by way of math it demands little more than arithmetic and algebra.

    I’d still (also) recommend the Russell for how well it’s written, though — plus it focuses on Einstein.

    Also, Feynman Lectures, although that can get too technical for a lay person.

    Yes, although he wrote less technical expositions as well.

    Or a copy of Einstein’s works in translation.

    Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper, for example, was surely a masterpiece, but may not be accessible to everyone, even in translation.

  123. 123.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    Well, he’s at 11% and he was once the frontrunner so comeback kid, I guess. 11% is up from 5%.

    New Hampshire is Kasich’s whole deal. If he doesn’t do well there he has no reason to keep going unless Bush really crashes, because he’s identical to Bush although slightly better at campaigning, but even that’s in comparison since in real life Kasich is weirdly inarticulate- he seems to have a small vocabulary or something. He often sounds as if can’t call up what should be an ordinary, adult range of words. I’m not even talking about soaring rhetoric. I mean nouns.

  125. 125.

    Josie

    @SiubhanDuinne: Thanks. You are a good influence on me. I have to drive 2 1/2 hours to go spend time with my granddaughter, and my youngest son had almost convinced me I couldn’t do that, that I needed someone to take me. After reading of your travels, I realized that I am quite capable of driving myself anywhere I want to go and will go every other week to help when my daughter-in-law goes back to work. I am really looking forward to it. I am somewhat of a hermit and this will force me out of my house and on to adventure.

  126. 126.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    The portions of the debates I saw, he seemed to do well (compared to the other establishment candidates).

    I agree that nouns are an important subject, but I’m pro-noun. The GOP base may feel differently.

  127. 127.

    Josie

    @satby: I agree with those who suggest free shipping with a minimum purchase. You can figure out what amount and size of package would work best for you.
    On ebay, I have noticed that the offer of free shipping draws buyers, even when the cost of shipping is figured into the price of the item.

  128. 128.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    Thanks for the lovely garden shots Marvel (thanks to AL also). Happy Birthday Josie and enjoy the grandkiddo.

    I though of Tom L when I picked up How to Teach Relativity to Your Dog, which I’ll start later today. I maybe should have started with How to Teach Physics to Your Dog, but that will be next.

  129. 129.

    Oregon Rose

    @WereBear: No doubt you already know the first rule of plant care – water only when the soil is dry! Begonias hate being over-watered. Also, even in an office, watch for aphids.

  130. 130.

    Debbie

    @Kay:

    I haz a sad at Kasich’s slippage.

    It’s just as well, he’d never be able to keep his mouth in check through November 2016.

  131. 131.

    Cervantes

    @Baud:

    Baud 2016: A [noun] in every pot and [another noun] in every garage!

    Well, it did OK for Hoover in ’28.

    If not thereafter.

  132. 132.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Josie:

    Well, I know long solitary drives aren’t for everyone, but if my road trips encourage you to just get in the car and go see your granddaughter (or simply take off and explore and allow yourself some getting-lost time), then I’m glad to be a good influence.

    I don’t think anyone has ever accused me of being a “good influence” before now. You see, there are still surprises every day!

  134. 134.

    satby

    @Riley’s Enabler: Thanks! Yes, getting ready to repost the cranberry from last Christmas and added a strong coffee one since it was a huge hit at the farmer’s market. Going to do a non-soy oil green tea and maybe a chocolate mint for Christmas as well. I’m hoping Mazedancer got her non-soy soap and lets me know how she likes it.

  136. 136.

    satby

    @WereBear: Me too! The sugar maples are coming through for us, some of the other trees look not so good. I can never remember if color is better in normal, rainy or drought years. It’s not looking promising here, but then they have nothing to compare it to so it’s amazing to them.

  141. 141.

    newdealfarmgrrrlll

    @satby: Thanks! One of many wonderful things about all the prairie natives I’ve planted was that they looked amazing with no input from me this year. The number and variety of pollinators that showed up was astounding, and lured in birds that don’t usually frequent my yard.

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